One of the haters says he agrees with the views of Armstrong.
"Broken clock....besides who doesn't share the same views as his?"
Caymen Jack on March 19
Yes, but that's besides the point. We actually pointed out something similar earlier. Thanks trulycoined. Martin Armstrong has been running a sophisticated scam for many years. So sophisticated that part of your message is worth repeating and re-inforcing. ...
and people are beginning to find out MA is playing a big game of fact, fact, BS?
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Yes. That is the pattern. Give away the facts and sell BS. He is giving away for free (re-publishing) much material that is available for free elsewhere as well. I will bet you all of the bashers here read his blog regularly and gain good information and have profited from it. You may have the time to do god knows how many hours of research to come up with similar resources and facts - but would you know where to look or reach a similar conclusion without reviewing his writings or forecasts ?
That makes him CONTENT CURATOR at best. Nothing more. Why would I tolerate him deceiving others just because he's a curator? Take for example Marty's recent blog post: John Hopkins has aided in creating this panic with their graphics which gives the impression that all of Europe and China are infected. They have visually greatly exaggerated the spread of this virus and appear to be enjoying the havoc they have caused, as if this were some video game. The total population of China was 1.386 billion in 2017. The total number of cases was 0.01%, yet their red dots make it appear that the entire population is infected.
Our local media here in Croatia used the same graphics from that site, so I remember when I first saw it weeks ago, immediately I had the same thought - that it's deliberately visually misleading to increase the panic (regardless whether the panic is justified or not). So I agree with "his view" as you call it. In fact, they are employing the same tactic themselves: https://i.imgur.com/bYggV9i.pngFear sells I guess. So everybody has to constantly write about corona, else they lose views. As you can see in the post above, even Marty is writing about it non-stop, does he even sleep? But he will accuse others of trying to cash-in on certain events, while doing the same thing. Hypocrite? If he's the only blogger you read, then yeah you might get the impression that he's original and that everything he writes about are "his views" (because he brainwashed you into thinking he's the smartest dude and has all the answers?). In actuality, many people came to same conclusions, he's just republishing it in his own words (as I said, that makes him content curator, not genius). But the point is, this "bashing" (as you acolytes call it) is not about disagreement or having different views. It's about Armstrong deliberately misleading readers with regards to his predictions, which creates false impression that buying his junk will make buyers profit financially. And for that he's being exposed here. |
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I went to that link you posted on Armstrongs post on gold - and he was very consistent in his calls. Goldman Sachs also proposed sub $1000 gold [by the end of 2015].
Yes, he was consistent... in his calls that gold would go sub $1,000 (or rather sub $850) by the end of 2015. Then actually slightly changed the target to Q1 2016. Oh, then again changed target for 2017. Don't mind me asking, have you checked today's date? |
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Bullshit excuse. What kind of forecast is that - eventually. Well then you are an idiot also if you think that can be predicted to a specific target date. That wasn't implied. The point is: that $5000 call is what he has said gold will go to when there is a currency crisis. That's not a bullshit call. The bullshit is you thinking it has to be pegged to a specific date and not an event.
Caca again. He will not announce it (time), but instead only in hindsight he will come out as a hero. If it's pegged to an event as you say, he will not really predict the event, but will claim that he had. If on the contrary he can predict the event (timing of), then it's in effect pegged to a date. Back to square one. |
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He also emphasizes in his forecasts that time plays a critical role - probably the most important role.
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He has always said that he expects it to get to around $5000 at some point.
Bullshit excuse. What kind of forecast is that - eventually. Here is the forecast from me: Gold will hit $0 at some point in the future. Gold will hit $1,000,000,000 at some point. When can you say that the forecast was wrong? Never (maybe if dollar as a currency disappears from the face of the Earth, but then I can just tip-toe and say oh but denominated in whatever, oops) When can you say that the forecast was correct? When it happens. When gold hits $5,000, Marty will just come out with the usual "on schedule" line. That's what the role of " TIME" is. Lol. His forecast is worthless. In fact, I have documented some of his earlier gold predictions when he was completely off, and some people placed bets on it, and lost money: https://busy.org/@traxo/martin-armstrong-gold-bearOf course shills will say he never advised to trade that, he has disclaimer, or whatever other lame excuse. I don't care of course, it was clear deception, that's what matters. He was aware of that. We've discussed it already numerous times here with Gumbi. It's laughable. |
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I can pick one of the many presented arguments, but can't really refute it because I'm too lazy to back-up anything that I say with sources. I'll just conclude that you are a fool and call it a day.
Ok well... come back when you have something coherent. |
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The mere fact that you're on here incessantly praising Armstrong and providing zero evidence proves that you're either the man himself, paid by Armstrong or a lonely troll with nothing else to do.
People want to see the facts which have been documented thoroughly on this site against Armstrong and no one can dispute them. [...] There is not one thing that I have ever posted that is false. Not one. Can't say the same about the childish bashers here. They make false accusations, come up with wild theories and questionable assumptions to berate someone who doesn't deserve it. A totally unbiased poster recently nailed it: there are some here who's egos were hurt and they are acting like children. Time to get over yourself and get a life and get a job. You've have proven my point. @over45 and other trolls are still welcome to refute any false information presented here. Come one trolls, there is a lot of coherently composed material, just to name a few: https://armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com/ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg53513881#msg53513881 Why not just pick one and refute it coherently, why do you resort to baseless claims and ad-hominem? Surely if Marty is so great, it's very easy for you to refute at least something? Give it a break and get a life. As you say the war is won, so move on already.
Nice try. What's the matter for you trolls? Why don't YOU leave yourself, and let people post in-depth analysis of various "predictions" and claims by mr. Armstrong? What is it that you are doing here again? In your 80+ posts history, you have not used EVEN ONE link to back-up anything you said, while honest people always used clear quotes and sources. Kindly answer why are you spamming this thread? @m96, @WHATEVERBABY2, @over45 et al...
IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN GETTING ANY CREDIBILITY, OR GETTING THE "TRUTH" OUT
THEN WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Everybody can see that your agenda is to sweep facts under the rug, but it's not happening. The only way to stop exposing the dishonest Martin Armstrong, is to actually prove that he's being honest. I presume you would have done it by now, if it were possible. |
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Letter to president confidence trickHere is the letter that Martin Armstrong allegedly sent to president Trump: https://d33wjekvz3zs1a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/President-Donald-Trump-Letter-Final.pdfCOMMENT:
President Trump also made reference to needing to be careful “not to make the cure worse than the disease”-also a suggestion you made in your letter!
REPLY:
This letter is circulating around many governments right now. I believe it will even be discussed this morning in Britain behind closed doors. There is another agenda which has been playing out.
Because umm... Marty is the only one using that phrase... What? COMMENT: Marty, Trump read your letter. He is adopting a lot of that from the student loans but most telling is he used your analogy that more people die in car crashes but we do not outlaw cars.
REPLY: I believe the letter has made it also around Congress and is circulating in the British Parliament. I want to thank everyone for helping. I will do another regarding Social Security. Now is the time when we just may be able to push back.
What? How is that even "his" analogy. A lot of people who find this Covid situation ridiculous are using the same analogies. (Analogy with regards to smoking is also used, but mostly ridiculed, presumably by smokers?) So 3 (three) important pages of advice to a president, and all Trump took of out of it is... two phrases that common people have been using for months? Give me a break lol. Nevertheless, he made some good points in the letter, but it's not groundbreaking at all. Also, why is he even writing these letters if government will never listen in the first place (as he says)? So they are circling it between all these governments who won't listen to it anyway? Why are they sharing the letter then? For the laughs? Then they enjoy the dinner together?
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Traxo you are a disgrace, all AnonymousCoder does is spam the same post over and over again and you have no problem with that at all.
On the contrary, I do have a problem with that, that's why I've been asking you shills for months to use sources and quotes when trying to refute something. Instead you resort to baseless claims and spam, so @AC keeps posting the same signature. He was very clear about his intents. Why would he have to go through same stuff if you simply back up your claims? Obviously he wouldn't "spam" as you call it. You shills are the ones not wanting to discuss anything for months, all you presented is your "opinion". Another things is I asked everyone in this thread to press ignore on certain users, so that we don't need to quote their spam. Tell me what else could I do if others are not willing to do it? Personally I ignored those users and did not reply to them. We are running in circles and you pretend like it's not because of your constant spam and ad-hominem. I already asked what is it that you are trying to accomplish if you don't back-up your claims? Actually I remember that you yourself did try to discuss something in the past, but your attempts were poor and quotes you provided were ambiguous, thus refuted. But recently joined shill-cavalry provided no sources at all. So props to you for actually trying, but you were refuted with quotes as far as I remember. So I invite you yet again to stop with ad-hominem and baseless claims, and if you want to refute something, do it with quotes instead of fairy-dust. Obviously your next posts will also be some kind of spam, as history teaches us. If you think Armstrong public blog and his opinion is trading advice you are a complete fool. you only trade the numbers which you never had and are constantly being updated on a daily/weekly/monthly basis.
I don't even give a damn. I exposed him for deceiving others, because others made trades based on his public blog which actually look like trading advice. He's very well aware of that fact. Whether it's legal or not I don't care. I warned others, that's all. If he's aware that others are trading based on his public blog, and public blog makes them lose money because of "incorrect" interpretation (which is in actuality correct interpretation), then why does he keep posting it? With his disclaimer, there is nothing to lose, and everything to win. If he makes a prediction that is correct, he announces it publicly for everybody to see how genius he is, and if he's incorrect he sweeps it under the rug (or actually sometimes brainwashes you into thinking he was correct, because he made multiple predictions for the same event). From my perspective that is evil, whether it's legal or not. |
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How times have changed versus 4 years ago. Back then if you came on this site and were at all critical of MA you got
lambasted by the MA fanboys of that time. (I know because I got jumped on and called several different things)
Now if you point out anything positive about MA you get lambasted by those that bought into every aspect of his service
and got burned. I don't think most of MA's haters are here to help save others but more likely on here because both their
pocketbooks and their egos took a big hit, They assumed that his shorter term investing advice was worthy of risking their
money and bought in big time. Time and price they shouted. What are you too dumb to understand, they said? They were
right, I couldn't make enough sense of it that I was going risk my money on it. I am very glad common sense kicked in.
BTW where are you guys now? TPTB need war(ego maniac), AltcoinUK, Stoat and others. Shouldn't you be on here bragging about all
of your successes? Suspect some of those people are the haters now posting under a new handle.
Caca post. Where are the quotes? Where are your sources? Just baseless claims, 0 effort post, thus no credibility. Take your time to compose something useful. Trying to summon someone to interpret MA actually doesn't give you any credibility at all - slowpoke DigiLab already attempted it, he wrote the following: Just hope that Shelby Moore [aka TPTB_need_war] will come back to this forum, or someone like him to join, in order for this thread to be useful again.
If you guys need specific people to interpret Armstrong for you, then what good are Martin Armstrong's blogs in the first place? Why would anybody even subscribe if they can't interpret it themselves? Besides, some of these people were FLAT WRONG about certain things, so what exactly should they brag about? Some of them even mentioned that at the end of the day these trades are basically a coinflip (note Armstrong claims he's never wrong). I am not going to dig it up now of course. I might actually, but only AFTER you, since you bring the nonsense out here yet again. Honest people already provided quotes and sources. Trolls come here with baseless claims. Again, if you want to refute something, provide necessary quotes. If you don't want to put effort into refuting something, then why are you even here? You are essentially forming a circlejerk of MA supporters here who just cheer and compliment each other, instead of trying to discuss any issue at all. That is a spam. |
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If the world economy wasn't crashing as we speak I would spend more time on this - but there are things to do to prepare.
is a liar. He joined in June 2019 and has done nothing on this forum but spammed this thread with Socrates advertisement. He had all the time in the world to do some useful work here, yet he refused. If the crisis ended today, he would simply continue his baseless Socrates advertisement campaign. Ditto his peers: To keep the thread readable, readers are advised to ignore following 4 users: truth727 - WHATEVERBABY's latest sock m96 over45 DigiLabthey have tried to brainwash you into subscribing to Socrates service, without actually trying to discuss any issue at all (see quotes below). |
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If you haven't already noticed, he has an axe to grind with the government. Why on earth would ANY government ask for his advice? They locked him up in a prison cell for 11 years.
Not only did they lock him up, but he claims they even attempted to kill him: The government tried to kill me after the plea but before sentencing. They left one inmate’s door unlocked as they did mine. I was taken to the hospital in a coma for a few days, but survived to their dismay. I have no compassion for anyone who works in the Justice Department and would never hire a lawyer who ever worked for the government.
Also even recently he speculated about the new attempts to shut him down, or even possibly kill him: Posted Jun 7, 2019 by Martin Armstrong
I must inform everyone that the government has begun another action in trying to shut me up. Their goal is to silence me once and for all. It does not matter. They can kill me, it will not change the outcome.
So government can get anyone they want to, except this one dude? For over 20 years? What's his secret!? And bankers even tried to kill his mother? My own attempts to stand up against the NY Bankers and their pervasive corruption that is destroying the world economy and has now led to massive tax increases and the hunting down of citizens for money like dogs, was met with bullets placed in my mailbox, and threats against my family. They even froze my mother’s bank accounts and social security without court orders. My lawyer Martin Unger had to threaten to hold a press conference because they almost killed my mother cutting off her access to all medicine.
So let me get this straight... He eats at the same table with the people who threatened his family, and tried to kill him? "Come on Marty, it was just a stupid prank, dude! You know we never wanted to steal your computer, kidnap your family, or murder you! Come on, let's put this behind us, come over for a dinner, aite? President will be there." |
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In other news - Martin Armstrong comes out with a symbolic price of $9.95 for his brand new report: Socrates is running all the economic data around the world. I will be putting out a general report for the public. This is not specific market forecasting so this is outside the boundaries of our services where clients want to keep things limited and not broadcast opening.
This report is outside that scope so in electronic format we will price it at $9.95 .
Oops 
(shameless advertising - financial gain without proof generated from the service of an agency that is not qualified to provide financial advice - deleted)
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only reply if you can provide proof that the two above are professional spammers - otherwise anything you write is meaningless.
Ah, of course the advertising continues... The proof of being paid, or just being generally insane cult member was already presented: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg53872144#msg53872144Ironically, what these trolls are writing is meaningless because it's not backed up by anything. |
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What seems so odd to me is the amount of effort put into convincing everyone here that he is a fraud.
Meh, here we go again. Nice try dude, but it's actually the opposite. What is astonishing is the fact that for years none of you Martin Armstrong worshippers could back anything with links/quotes, or correctly interpret any of his his predictions before the event. There is no "convincing" needed on the side of truth, facts (links, quotes) were presented, and your cult leader has been exposed. On the contrary, you cult members are trying to convince others to subscribe to Socrates fraud. |
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Well I almost puked when I seen his 250k a year on his bog post today lol, 5mill for institutional, lololol Marty stop dreaming!!!!
Yes in few days we'll see his blog post asking readers to stop emailing him cuz it's sold out. Well, it's probably sold out by now, right? |
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Ohhh yeah funny joke hehehehehehe. Haha, get it? Lol, obviously Marty would never write a computer program solely to scam others *wink wink* hehehehe |
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MA on Feb. 02th on the private Blog The Dow peaked precisely with the ECM No, it didn't peak precisely with the ECM, regardless of what MA claims. Or rather, if you want to consider ECM date a "peak", then drop was 3%, not 20% until the next peak which was some weeks after the ECM. I believe we already discussed it some pages ago in-between the Socrates-advertisement posts. I think @s29 pointed it out in form of an image, so I guess find that. which often warns of a reasonable correction in the 20% range is possible.
"often", "warns" - ambiguous again. You could never know what he meant then when you read it, only now in hindsight. Why was he so insecure if he's always 100% correct as he claims? Again, you shills are welcome to post your opened trades in real-time when you attempt to interpret Armstrong's writing, instead of digging up his old posts in hindsight and then claim he somehow predicted it. It's been months and not a single proof of anyone interpreting anything correctly in real-time, so obviously that trend is going to continue. |
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"on Schedule" in Martin Armstrong's terminology means no more than: Another forecast down the drain. [...] Yeah, add to that " (right) on time" and " on cue", perhaps even more synonyms? Haha. Martin apparently predicted a lot of things, but somehow nobody here could provide clear quote where Martin actually predicted the event before it happened. |
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I'm still waiting for gold $5000 he called in 2009/10.
Marty mocking goldbugs again, so expect it soon, lol.
META: Reminder... as you can see it's been months, there is no indication that they will stop clogging this thread, so we simply have to ignore them: To keep the thread readable, readers are advised to ignore following 4 users: WHATEVERBABY2 - deceased WHATEVERBABY3 - deceased truth727 - WHATEVERBABY's latest sock m96 over45 DigiLabthey have been trying to brainwash you into subscribing to Socrates service, without actually trying to discuss any issue at all (see quotes below). I asked them numerous times to refute something, if they have something to refute. Instead they resort to spam the thread. You can check either last few pages here, or their recent post history, it doesn't take much to figure out that they have contributed only spam and ad-hominem. For really slow people... Title of this thread is Martin Armstrong Discussion.
Apparently they have all the time in the world for ad-hominem and baseless promotion of the Socrates service, but they have no time at all for writing a coherent meaningful post which somebody would benefit from.
Readers can see that all of the trending Martin Armstrong promoters basically admitted that their goal is to form a circlejerk of Socrates promoters.
Click the links for detailed evidence. |
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