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261  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 06:18:08 PM
If that is accurate then I can only assume you are 'Ken Slaughter'.

I think, secretly, you're jealous you aren't  Grin.
262  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 05:46:17 PM
Did you take me off your ignore list then?

You wont be laughing soon chump believe me.

You're not on my ignore list. It's important to absorb all relevant info when investing in a market. That's how grown ups do it. You are on my AMC spam list along with Megamouth, Swede and Entropy. It's so I remember who you are when I run into you on other threads in the future.

Me in 3 months:  Cheesy
Me in 6 months:  Cheesy Cheesy
Me in 1 year     :  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You get the idea  Wink
263  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 05:23:40 PM
If you think that is news to anyone here you must need your head examined.

Good, we are agreed AMC is the future then. Industrial scale mining using equipment manufactured in-house. Wasn't all that hard to get here, was it steveioio?  Cheesy
264  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 05:09:50 PM
No, they are pointing out facts and HUGE HOLES in this pump.   Like, valuing a company at $25M that owns 6 avalons.......    Many of the posters own more hashing power than that.

If you don't like the prospectus, don't invest. What's the big deal?

I'm detecting an undercurrent of fear in the more established players who see their home mining operations/mining ventures that are obviously less ambitious than AMC turning into also-rans. It's the way of the world, I'm afraid, Minor. Bitcoin is growing up and bigger players are going to dominate.
265  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 04:43:30 PM
do you have trouble logging on and off all the time?   just for fun, see if you all can post within seconds of each other, you have more than one computer right?

I just took it upon myself to challenge the cowardly spammers and FUDsters on this thread. Their approach is predicated on no one being prepared to stand up to them. Well, quite a few made fools of themselves the last few days and I won't be letting them forget this shameful period in their forum history anytime soon. I'll be here until the next halving  Wink
266  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
how many of these idiotic posts are by the OP under different accounts?

Oh God, here we go again...  Cheesy
267  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 03:47:09 PM
We are in the process of compiling a FAQ's which should be written on Monday and posted soon after that.  It may need to be reviewed and rewritten before it is posted.  I am going to post that in the reserved post that I have at the beginning of the thread.  That way if anyone ask a question that is answered in the FAQ's we can point them to that message.

Excellent!  Smiley
268  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 03:35:53 PM
Ken has not addressed many of the issues discussed here for the last few days. I've asked questions in regards to the AMC/VMC structure, capping out the shares issues at a lower number, distribution of dividends from hardware/mining, issuing of new shares, and protection of shareholders investment by keeping funds within AMC (no side project funding for Ken's personal venture). Would like to see if Ken or anyone that has asked to Ken about these issues for clarification. These are just some of the issues at the top of the list for me. I am sure we all have more to add but let's get the ball rolling from here.

I think part of the problem is many people here have not done their due diligence and expect to be spoon fed information that is available elsewhere in the thread. I've studied this security and watched Ken's moves and I feel I have a good understanding of the value proposition. Basically, what I'm saying is I am comfortable with my significant investment and where we are.

However, there are outstanding questions that have not been answered, or could do with further clarification. I like your idea i.e. let's get the ball rolling. Maybe we could compile a small number of questions for Ken over several posts, to be presented *one post at a time*, and maybe Ken can commit to feedback whenever his schedule allows. The real challenge will be keeping the spammers like Megamouth in check. So, I'm afraid that although I'd like to try this approach, I'm not confident it will work because it only takes one unethical poster to sabotage the plan.

If we *can* get this approach to work, we should aim to build a FAQ which everyone can refer back to in future. If we can't get it to work, I'll live with it and wait for future news and dividend payments to validate my decision to invest.

Edit: Oh, and I really want to make it clear I believe there are a significant number of people here who are trying to get the terms of the offering modified for financial gain. It seems a lot of people got burnt through naivete/poor decisions and they should *not* be reimbursed or compensated in any way. That way lies Moral Hazard and the corruption of the legacy finance system.
269  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 01:57:27 PM
Once again lolstate, you make claims that have no substance.  NONE of these have been addressed by Ken at all.

We could go back and forth if you like, but what is the point? You say he hasn't, I say he has. He has. Go back and review the thread.
270  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 01:55:17 PM

Blue chips use PO Box addresses all the time. It is standard practice for mail to be sent to one location then forwarded to another. There is nothing controversial about this, it's a fact.

Are you insane?

You've started to spam again. You're added to the list  Cheesy.
Please add me aswell, because I was about to ask you the same question. Thanks.

Why, what have you done to count yourself in MM's league?
271  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
Bitfunder Shares Issued 40,000,249 (number changes few times per day) and BTCT Shares Issued 5,000,000  Huh

It is good thing that BTCT guy is starting to realise the truth with AMC / VMC deal ("Definitely does not sound good for investors").

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245713.msg2617303#msg2617303

This is an excellent post from Burnside and I recommend everyone reads it. It is sensible, level headed and a breath of fresh air in comparison to the nonsense Megamouth gets away with. Ironically, it does not give much support to MM's agenda with all his FUD  Cheesy.

It's easy for people to forget that when they participate in this new economy they are among the very earliest of adopters. Every new market and industry goes through growing pains. This is what we are seeing here. We are trail blazing a new economy. We are the ones that have to take most of the pain and stress so others that follow will have a much easier time. If you are ready to accept this and the associated high risks, the rewards could be great.
272  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 01:38:30 PM

Blue chips use PO Box addresses all the time. It is standard practice for mail to be sent to one location then forwarded to another. There is nothing controversial about this, it's a fact.

Are you insane?

You've started to spam again. You're added to the list  Cheesy.
273  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 01:33:46 PM

A lot of this stuff has been addressed.

Nonsense - none of it has been addressed.

I also have to chuckle when people act like they are shocked a company uses a PO Box. If that qualified a company for scam status, 99% of all blue chip companies would fall foul.

Blue Chip companies do not use mailboxes in side street shops. They have offices you can visit, they are regulated by government agencies, the company Directors publicly display their CV, home addresses registered, bank accounts audited, news release claims are independently verifiable for accuracy.

Dunno why you refuse to accept lots has been covered. It has been - go back and review this thread if you can hack through the noise  Wink

Blue chips use PO Box addresses all the time. It is standard practice for mail to be sent to one location then forwarded to another. There is nothing controversial about this, it's a fact.
274  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 01:18:21 PM
Things that need to be answered directly from Ken.

A lot of this stuff has been addressed. We are just going around in circles here. I also have to chuckle when people act like they are shocked a company uses a PO Box. If that qualified a company for scam status, 99% of all blue chip companies would fall foul.
275  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 12:30:54 PM
What we need here is *serious* discussion. Ideally we can get rid of the likes of MM, Swede and Entropy and allow genuine comments of all types, whether negative, neutral or positive. I'd be delighted to hear real criticism that we can all engage with - if it was real - but alas the likes of MM have shown it often isn't.

You couldn't be more wrong. What we need now are verifiable facts from Mr Slaughter. Not more discussion. Not more promises or predictions. Just facts. All the questions have been asked and from Mr Slaughter - silence.

Unfortunately, what seems to happen is people ask sensible questions of Ken, and while we wait for a response, the thread gets spammed by people whose only aim appears to be to disrupt it. I've lost track of all the sensible questions and concerns asked of Ken and whether there have been satisfactory answers because of the extreme signal-to-noise you helped to contribute to. An example was the insults you threw around when you refused to believe that 'weak hand' was a finance term without negative connotations. You are not the worst offender, steveioio, but I do question your sincerity.

Another major problem is the same questions that *have* been answered are asked over and over again. We really need a central FAQ where this stuff can be recorded, because the serial, unfolding nature of this forum thread isn't the best way to communicate this info.

Latest AMC share holdings on BitFunder over 100K:

20000000
9845216
2000000
1643032
1005641
647927
214522
203001
200000
187773
179000
150000
131000
128730
125700
106671
104044
101000
100977
100228
100126
100126
100126

 Grin
276  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 11:11:50 AM

Steveioio, I'm close to putting you in the same bucket as MM, Swede and Entropy. I'll be watching carefully to see if you can stay on topic, or resort to spamming people with inane typing like they have.

I wont directly reply to this threat that adds nothing to the discussion. Pure spam.

lolstate role on this forum (this thread actualy, since he posted nowhere else) is to distract, derail debate and turn us naysayers into mere trolls
and spammers. He wants to pick a pointless fight and extend thread to thousands of pages of shit so that concerns and questions asked become
buried under nothing but crap and spam. Don't fall for it. Give sucker negative trust and ignore him, thanks!

I'll go with the majority view on this.

Seems a strange thing to say - as though you were the one with the ability to determine what happened.  Unless you're a sock-puppet of Ken's you have no option BUT to accept what Ken decides (which may or may not be the same thing as going with the majority view).

No, I'm only saying I'm sure the community will come to the best decision. I'm eager to get on with it, whatever the decision is - new moderated thread or moderate this one, whatever.
277  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 11:06:01 AM
I fear this thread will turn into a "open" discussion where only praise is accepted.

What we need here is *serious* discussion. Ideally we can get rid of the likes of MM, Swede and Entropy and allow genuine comments of all types, whether negative, neutral or positive. I'd be delighted to hear real criticism that we can all engage with - if it was real - but alas the likes of MM have shown it often isn't.
278  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 10:51:48 AM

Steveioio, I'm close to putting you in the same bucket as MM, Swede and Entropy. I'll be watching carefully to see if you can stay on topic, or resort to spamming people with inane typing like they have.

I wont directly reply to this threat that adds nothing to the discussion. Pure spam.

lolstate role on this forum (this thread actualy, since he posted nowhere else) is to distract, derail debate and turn us naysayers into mere trolls
and spammers. He wants to pick a pointless fight and extend thread to thousands of pages of shit so that concerns and questions asked become
buried under nothing but crap and spam. Don't fall for it. Give sucker negative trust and ignore him, thanks!

I'm sensing regret from MM, we definitely saw it earlier from Entropy and Swede. I think they realise how ridiculously shallow they have made themselves appear here. I'm coming around to the idea of keeping everything in this thread to act as a guide to future Bitcoin generations on how not to behave and moving to a brand new, moderated thread. But that's just my opinion, I'll go with the majority view on this.
279  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 10:31:27 AM

Steveioio, I'm close to putting you in the same bucket as MM, Swede and Entropy. I'll be watching carefully to see if you can stay on topic, or resort to spamming people with inane typing like they have.

I wont directly reply to this threat that adds nothing to the discussion. Pure spam.

I think I already said I'll be ignoring you from now on. I'm temporarily breaking that pledge to point out to you and any new comers that you have been part of the problem on this thread. We need to raise the quality of comments here, so please lend a hand  Wink.

Edit: 'Threat' ?! It's a statement of fact. Stop playing the victim.
280  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 30, 2013, 10:25:57 AM
Forget the Poll Ken - the thread has only got this way because of your silence. Start addressing the valid concerns and you won't then need to censor your shareholders.

My advice needs to be repeated - cover yourself here and don't put anymore money into VMC's account until 'Mr Slaughter' reveals himself and answers the valid questions that he has blatently been refusing to answer.

Steveioio, I'm close to putting you in the same bucket as MM, Swede and Entropy. I'll be watching carefully to see if you can stay on topic, or resort to spamming people with inane typing like they have.
Having being around when pirateat40 was around, you can tell that lolstate is pretty much identical to one of the pirate supporters.

Have fun losing your money.

Tell me more. We need some genuine discourse in this thread.
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