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June 30, 2013, 05:17:04 PM
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Minor. Bitcoin is growing up and bigger players are going to dominate.

If you think that is news to anyone here you must need your head examined.
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If you think that is news to anyone here you must need your head examined.

Good, we are agreed AMC is the future then. Industrial scale mining using equipment manufactured in-house. Wasn't all that hard to get here, was it steveioio?  Cheesy
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Good, we are agreed AMC is the future then. Industrial scale mining using equipment manufactured in-house. Wasn't all that hard to get here, was it steveioio?  Cheesy

Did you take me off your ignore list then?

You wont be laughing soon chump believe me.
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Lets rewrite that so it actually starts to make sense Smiley
This is a really rough draft.

AMC is a hybrid Bitcoin mining and development cooperative describing itself as "the next big mining cooperative" is releasing today an offering to early-adopters of Five million (5,000,000) BitFunder virtual shares and issuing another twenty million (20,000,000)

New offer reads:

1) AMC is a hybrid Bitcoin mining and development cooperative and is releasing "today" (date here!)  an offering to early-adopters of five million (5,000,000) virtual shares on BitFunder. Share can not be sold BEFORE second offer is completed (see #2).
1.1) Shares will be offered at 0.0005 BTC? 

2) Second offering of twenty million (20,000,000), offered at 0.0010? BTC per share, will start on (date here) and end (end date here).
2.1) Share not sold by date (end date here) will be cancelled or held as treasury stock, without any rights for dividend or voting unless...
2.2 If N% of 2,500 BTC (what is the minimum amount you need right now tho get this show on the road?) is not sold via bitfunder, IPO will be canceled and all virtual shares will be be bought back at IPO price and all BTC will returned to investors. This will including the first offer.
2.3 Issuer will not move any proceeds from the bitfunder (or what ever that "bank" names was) before the IPO is successfully completed.
2.3 Issuer (your name) will cover all the IPO related costs if IPO fails.

BitFunder virtual shares which will be used for the growth and expansion fund, which will receive a total of 100% of the company's virtual-currency profits after all expenses until the total dividends paid is equal to the offering price of .0005 BTC per share and 12 months have elapsed since the initial offering. The Cooperative is hoping to raise up to 2,500 Bitcoins. The offering price will be 0.0005 Bitcoins for the first 20,000,000 early-adopter shares thereafter the price will be .001 BTC per share. If demand is strong enough then share prices may increase throughout the IPO.

3) All proceeds from the IPO will be reported as shareholders equity on the balance sheet following GAAP or IFRS. You probably want IFRS.
4) Proceeds form the IPO will be used for expansion of AMC blaa blaa blaa
5) AMC uses best accounting practices (IFRS and reasonably) and will issue the following monthly financial statements :
5.1)  current balance sheet - reporting company's assets, liabilities, and ownership equity 
5.2)  income statement for the period: income, expenses, and profits over a period of time.
5.3) cash flow statement: company's cash flow activities, particularly its operating, investing and financing activities.

6) AMC pays monthly dividends form it's profits for the period.   

Following reads like bullshit bingo manual. Smiley 
Active Mining Corporation (AMC) is a Belize International Business Company DBA Active Mining Cooperative and is made up of a team of dedicated Bitcoin mining professionals with over 30 years of combined experience in the ISP Business including Internet Access and Web Hosting, Graphics Design, Cloud Development, Computer Programming in Multiple Languages, FPGA Hardware And Software Design, Complete Systems Design, Web Design, and System Administration.


The team has been involved with Bitcoins since 2009. AMC has purchased and will operate Application Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC) Bitcoin mining machines and is developing an ASIC chip and PCB that it will license to VMC for use in their Fast-Hash series of Bitcoin Mining Machines. AMC is developing ASIC chips on the 45nm and soon the 28nm process. AMC's ASIC 45nm chips will have fast speeds of 6 to 9 GH/s with low power usage. The 28nm chips are estimated to have speeds of 9 to 15 GH/s per chip which will be in VMC's Fast-Hash-XXT series of machines which will have even more speed and even lower power usage. VMC may purchase ASIC chips from different vendors if available.


The team has been involved with Bitcoins since 2009. AMC has purchased [number here] and will operate Application Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC) Bitcoin mining machines. (this has to be on pre-IPO your balance sheet) etc...

VMC? WTF is VMC? If VMC wants to buy something from AMC, let them do that and nothing else. If VMC wants a share in AMC, they have to BUY that share for actual BTC via Bitfunder. 

AMC is using the most innovative technology available to develop their chips on the 45nm process and soon the 28nm process. Investors in AMC will receive the benefits of having dividends paid out as soon as AMC starts mining with it's purchased Avalon's and/or purchasing of G.AsicMiner-PT shares. Investors in AMC will see big benefits when AMC develops it's own ASIC chip and VMC creates its Fast-Hash series of Bitcoin mining machines. AMC will receive license fees in the form of Bitcoin mining machines at cost and royalties from VMC for it's technology.


Following is unimportant at the moment and sounds like a pipe dream. You can not market your IPO by third party "is in talks with a Major Semiconductor Company" bull shit. Seriously.
Clean it up and make it relevant.
VMC is in talks with a Major Semiconductor Company which can deliver prototype/Low Volume chips to VMC in a 5-10 week time frame after the RTL code for the ASIC chip is ported to their chip and the timing on the chip has been closed.

"In the future," AMC CEO/CTO, Kenneth(Ken) E. Slaughter writes, "the community will benefit from our hybrid mining and development cooperative by buying Bitcoin mining machines which produce income for the cooperative while the cooperative develops a Bitcoin mining chips for the cooperative's own use." AMC's shares and options are already publicly available on BitFunder.com. BitFunder is a popular Bitcoin asset platform which includes listings for several well-known Bitcoin companies, bonds, and other assets. BitFunder accounts can be funded through a developing exchange platform, WeExchange.co.


The IPO serves two purposes, The first being to spread awareness of Bitcoin, "Profit-sharing helps to bring the community together and make a stronger foundation to help support Bitcoin worldwide". A number of Bitcoin businesses have "gone public" on Bitcoin-specific stock exchanges already, most notable is the popular Bitcoin gambling site, SatoshiDice.com. SatoshiDice's virtual IPO on MPEx has given hundreds of Bitcoin users a chance to take part in the business's recent growth and success. With BitFunder, smaller businesses like AMC are aiming not just to raise capital but to benefit from the public interest and community involvement that virtual IPOs generate themselves.

The second reason for the virtual IPO is because AMC needs capital to execute the next phase of it's plan. AMC intends to utilize the capital to massively increase the number and income of Bitcoin mining machines that it operates.

 Put some actual numbers here - you know what a business plan is?

This means expanding far beyond the six Avalon mining machine on order and which started shipping April 5, 2013; by purchasing 400 Fast-Hash-80 Bitcoin mining machines, 100 Fast-Hash-400, 100 Fast-Hash-800, 100 Fast-Hash-1.2T, 100 Fast-Hash-2.4T, and 100 Fast-Hash-4.8T if available over the next two years. The cooperative will in next 2 years increase it's total mining speed to over 992,384,000 MH/s if the offer is fully accepted by the community and our development and VMC's purchase of chips as planned. "In the future," AMC CEO/CTO, Kenneth(Ken) E. Slaughter writes, "profits should increase due to not having to spend capital on research and development of our chips (see: ... AMC will see big benefits when AMC develops it's own ASIC chip and".. yes or no? )  also chip production cost should be dramatically reduced in 2014 and hash speed should dramatically increase."

"This is what the IPO is for," Mr Slaughter writes, "to expand the total speed of our mining equipment and to provide funds to develop and purchase Bitcoin mining chips and our own mining machines for the use of the cooperative."

For those interested in buying shares, AMC has Six Avalon batch 2 machines on order. The machines have started to ship April 15, 2013. As soon as these machines are received they will be set up to start mining on a pool and using the team name "Team AMC" so investors can keep track of AMC's mining speed. AMC's mining operation, with a fully accepted offer from the community will offer a very conservative estimated Net of 0.014058909 BTC per share over 24 months for early-adopters and an estimated Return on Investment of 2,812%/ over 24 months using an estimated .61 reduction in profitability and an increase of difficulty of 40 Times.

Although returns of this magnitude may seem extreme - in the world of Bitcoin mining startups even higher growth rates can be quite common. AMC's hybrid Bitcoin mining and development cooperative gives the investor, a two pronged path to increase the investors return. The two prongs are that of predictable income from purchased mining machines and the extreme growth rates that are possible from developing / purchasing a Bitcoin mining chips and then using that chip to mine Bitcoins. Thanks to innovative capital raising platforms like BitFunder, the average Bitcoin user can participate and potentially yield these high returns. As Bitcoin exchanges become easier to use and improve upon their services, virtually everyone will be able to take part. The IPO is only a few days old but there are still shares available. There has never been a better opportunity to invest and get your share of the Bitcoin mining profit being generated everyday.

Copyright AMC 2013 - All rights reserved

While reading what I wrote, use the most friendliest and relaxing voice in your head.
BTW, Things in BTC bubble universes are getting ugly....
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Did you take me off your ignore list then?

You wont be laughing soon chump believe me.

You're not on my ignore list. It's important to absorb all relevant info when investing in a market. That's how grown ups do it. You are on my AMC spam list along with Megamouth, Swede and Entropy. It's so I remember who you are when I run into you on other threads in the future.

Me in 3 months:  Cheesy
Me in 6 months:  Cheesy Cheesy
Me in 1 year     :  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You get the idea  Wink
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Me in 3 months:  Cheesy
Me in 6 months:  Cheesy Cheesy
Me in 1 year     :  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You get the idea  Wink

If that is accurate then I can only assume you are 'Ken Slaughter'.

You in 2 years = jail.
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If that is accurate then I can only assume you are 'Ken Slaughter'.

I think, secretly, you're jealous you aren't  Grin.
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Lets rewrite that so it actually starts to make sense Smiley
This is a really rough draft.

AMC is a hybrid Bitcoin mining and development cooperative describing itself as "the next big mining cooperative" is releasing today an offering to early-adopters of Five million (5,000,000) BitFunder virtual shares and issuing another twenty million (20,000,000)

New offer reads:

1) AMC is a hybrid Bitcoin mining and development cooperative and is releasing "today" (date here!)  an offering to early-adopters of five million (5,000,000) virtual shares on BitFunder. Share can not be sold BEFORE second offer is completed (see #2).
1.1) Shares will be offered at 0.0005 BTC? 

2) Second offering of twenty million (20,000,000), offered at 0.0010? BTC per share, will start on (date here) and end (end date here).
2.1) Share not sold by date (end date here) will be cancelled or held as treasury stock, without any rights for dividend or voting unless...
2.2 If N% of 2,500 BTC (what is the minimum amount you need right now tho get this show on the road?) is not sold via bitfunder, IPO will be canceled and all virtual shares will be be bought back at IPO price and all BTC will returned to investors. This will including the first offer.
2.3 Issuer will not move any proceeds from the bitfunder (or what ever that "bank" names was) before the IPO is successfully completed.
2.3 Issuer (your name) will cover all the IPO related costs if IPO fails.

BitFunder virtual shares which will be used for the growth and expansion fund, which will receive a total of 100% of the company's virtual-currency profits after all expenses until the total dividends paid is equal to the offering price of .0005 BTC per share and 12 months have elapsed since the initial offering. The Cooperative is hoping to raise up to 2,500 Bitcoins. The offering price will be 0.0005 Bitcoins for the first 20,000,000 early-adopter shares thereafter the price will be .001 BTC per share. If demand is strong enough then share prices may increase throughout the IPO.

3) All proceeds from the IPO will be reported as shareholders equity on the balance sheet following GAAP or IFRS. You probably want IFRS.
4) Proceeds form the IPO will be used for expansion of AMC blaa blaa blaa
5) AMC uses best accounting practices (IFRS and reasonably) and will issue the following monthly financial statements :
5.1)  current balance sheet - reporting company's assets, liabilities, and ownership equity 
5.2)  income statement for the period: income, expenses, and profits over a period of time.
5.3) cash flow statement: company's cash flow activities, particularly its operating, investing and financing activities.

6) AMC pays monthly dividends form it's profits for the period.   

Following reads like bullshit bingo manual. Smiley 
Active Mining Corporation (AMC) is a Belize International Business Company DBA Active Mining Cooperative and is made up of a team of dedicated Bitcoin mining professionals with over 30 years of combined experience in the ISP Business including Internet Access and Web Hosting, Graphics Design, Cloud Development, Computer Programming in Multiple Languages, FPGA Hardware And Software Design, Complete Systems Design, Web Design, and System Administration.


The team has been involved with Bitcoins since 2009. AMC has purchased and will operate Application Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC) Bitcoin mining machines and is developing an ASIC chip and PCB that it will license to VMC for use in their Fast-Hash series of Bitcoin Mining Machines. AMC is developing ASIC chips on the 45nm and soon the 28nm process. AMC's ASIC 45nm chips will have fast speeds of 6 to 9 GH/s with low power usage. The 28nm chips are estimated to have speeds of 9 to 15 GH/s per chip which will be in VMC's Fast-Hash-XXT series of machines which will have even more speed and even lower power usage. VMC may purchase ASIC chips from different vendors if available.


The team has been involved with Bitcoins since 2009. AMC has purchased [number here] and will operate Application Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC) Bitcoin mining machines. (this has to be on pre-IPO your balance sheet) etc...

VMC? WTF is VMC? If VMC wants to buy something from AMC, let them do that and nothing else. If VMC wants a share in AMC, they have to BUY that share for actual BTC via Bitfunder. 

AMC is using the most innovative technology available to develop their chips on the 45nm process and soon the 28nm process. Investors in AMC will receive the benefits of having dividends paid out as soon as AMC starts mining with it's purchased Avalon's and/or purchasing of G.AsicMiner-PT shares. Investors in AMC will see big benefits when AMC develops it's own ASIC chip and VMC creates its Fast-Hash series of Bitcoin mining machines. AMC will receive license fees in the form of Bitcoin mining machines at cost and royalties from VMC for it's technology.


Following is unimportant at the moment and sounds like a pipe dream. You can not market your IPO by third party "is in talks with a Major Semiconductor Company" bull shit. Seriously.
Clean it up and make it relevant.
VMC is in talks with a Major Semiconductor Company which can deliver prototype/Low Volume chips to VMC in a 5-10 week time frame after the RTL code for the ASIC chip is ported to their chip and the timing on the chip has been closed.

"In the future," AMC CEO/CTO, Kenneth(Ken) E. Slaughter writes, "the community will benefit from our hybrid mining and development cooperative by buying Bitcoin mining machines which produce income for the cooperative while the cooperative develops a Bitcoin mining chips for the cooperative's own use." AMC's shares and options are already publicly available on BitFunder.com. BitFunder is a popular Bitcoin asset platform which includes listings for several well-known Bitcoin companies, bonds, and other assets. BitFunder accounts can be funded through a developing exchange platform, WeExchange.co.


The IPO serves two purposes, The first being to spread awareness of Bitcoin, "Profit-sharing helps to bring the community together and make a stronger foundation to help support Bitcoin worldwide". A number of Bitcoin businesses have "gone public" on Bitcoin-specific stock exchanges already, most notable is the popular Bitcoin gambling site, SatoshiDice.com. SatoshiDice's virtual IPO on MPEx has given hundreds of Bitcoin users a chance to take part in the business's recent growth and success. With BitFunder, smaller businesses like AMC are aiming not just to raise capital but to benefit from the public interest and community involvement that virtual IPOs generate themselves.

The second reason for the virtual IPO is because AMC needs capital to execute the next phase of it's plan. AMC intends to utilize the capital to massively increase the number and income of Bitcoin mining machines that it operates.

 Put some actual numbers here - you know what a business plan is?

This means expanding far beyond the six Avalon mining machine on order and which started shipping April 5, 2013; by purchasing 400 Fast-Hash-80 Bitcoin mining machines, 100 Fast-Hash-400, 100 Fast-Hash-800, 100 Fast-Hash-1.2T, 100 Fast-Hash-2.4T, and 100 Fast-Hash-4.8T if available over the next two years. The cooperative will in next 2 years increase it's total mining speed to over 992,384,000 MH/s if the offer is fully accepted by the community and our development and VMC's purchase of chips as planned. "In the future," AMC CEO/CTO, Kenneth(Ken) E. Slaughter writes, "profits should increase due to not having to spend capital on research and development of our chips (see: ... AMC will see big benefits when AMC develops it's own ASIC chip and".. yes or no? )  also chip production cost should be dramatically reduced in 2014 and hash speed should dramatically increase."

"This is what the IPO is for," Mr Slaughter writes, "to expand the total speed of our mining equipment and to provide funds to develop and purchase Bitcoin mining chips and our own mining machines for the use of the cooperative."

For those interested in buying shares, AMC has Six Avalon batch 2 machines on order. The machines have started to ship April 15, 2013. As soon as these machines are received they will be set up to start mining on a pool and using the team name "Team AMC" so investors can keep track of AMC's mining speed. AMC's mining operation, with a fully accepted offer from the community will offer a very conservative estimated Net of 0.014058909 BTC per share over 24 months for early-adopters and an estimated Return on Investment of 2,812%/ over 24 months using an estimated .61 reduction in profitability and an increase of difficulty of 40 Times.

Although returns of this magnitude may seem extreme - in the world of Bitcoin mining startups even higher growth rates can be quite common. AMC's hybrid Bitcoin mining and development cooperative gives the investor, a two pronged path to increase the investors return. The two prongs are that of predictable income from purchased mining machines and the extreme growth rates that are possible from developing / purchasing a Bitcoin mining chips and then using that chip to mine Bitcoins. Thanks to innovative capital raising platforms like BitFunder, the average Bitcoin user can participate and potentially yield these high returns. As Bitcoin exchanges become easier to use and improve upon their services, virtually everyone will be able to take part. The IPO is only a few days old but there are still shares available. There has never been a better opportunity to invest and get your share of the Bitcoin mining profit being generated everyday.

Copyright AMC 2013 - All rights reserved



We are in the process of compiling a FAQ's which should be written on Monday and posted soon after that.  It may need to be reviewed and rewritten before it is posted.  I am going to post that in the reserved post that I have at the beginning of the thread.  That way if anyone ask a question that is answered in the FAQ's we can point them to that message.

A FAQ? I was more looking for hard evidence.

Call me old fashioned but another page of script knocked up on your pc doesn't inspire me to put my hard earned money into your hands.

Any investment in AMC is an investment in YOU and your skills yet we don't even know who you are. Where is your checkable history? Your CV? Where do you live? What do you look like? What is in the NDA with eASIC? Where are the vids of you in your office with your team? Where is your office? Where is the vid of you at underground store you looked round the other day? You are totally untraceable as an individual.

These last two posts like this is what we need to start heading in the right direction. Others that have been and want to contribute to the list of issues that need to be clarified and changed please continue to post so we can compile a list for Ken to work on. Everyone lets please stay on point. All irrelevent posts can be communicated via PM to specific members. Keep it out of the public view as it is a waste of time for everyone to have to filter as they are trying to read posts that are of importance.

1.  Ken needs to come out of the dark by being more transparent about himself as well as his staff. Pictures, videos, contracts, address, etc... All those things need to be out in the open to boost confidence in Ken as well as investors. This will benefit both parties.
2. AMC & VMC need to become one entity that manufactures and mines. All AMC investments should stay within AMC. AMC should manufacture with the money raised by investors for AMC not VMC and should benefit 100% in the selling of hardware. Bottom line we don't need VMC.
3.  Dividends should be paid out to the 20m growth fund and to investors that bought shares. Shares that have yet to be purchased should not be paid in dividends. Revenue generated should be paid like this.

These three are top priority for me. This is where i would like to move forward and work out other details. Any other suggestions?
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Others that have been and want to contribute to the list of issues that need to be clarified and changed please continue to post so we can compile a list for Ken to work on. Everyone lets please stay on point. All irrelevent posts can be communicated via PM to specific members. Keep it out of the public view as it is a waste of time for everyone to have to filter as they are trying to read posts that are of importance.

1.  Ken needs to come out of the dark by being more transparent about himself as well as his staff. Pictures, videos, contracts, address, etc... All those things need to be out in the open to boost confidence in Ken as well as investors. This will benefit both parties.
2. AMC & VMC need to become one entity that manufactures and mines. All AMC investments should stay within AMC. AMC should manufacture with the money raised by investors for AMC not VMC and should benefit 100% in the selling of hardware. Bottom line we don't need VMC.
3.  Dividends should be paid out to the 20m growth fund and to investors that bought shares. Shares that have yet to be purchased should not be paid in dividends. Revenue generated should be paid like this.

These three are top priority for me. This is where i would like to move forward and work out other details. Any other suggestions?

Good points, I second them all.
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After witnessing Ken being silent on important stuff and issues for way too long now while (paid) shills and retards like lolstate, Bargraphics
continualy post shits, derailing the thread to complete crap, some are still investing in AMC shares. No rational investor would do that, and
it is certain irrational investors do not have much more than few BTC. So who is still investing? Ken, "the team", (paid) shills and retards.

A rational investor would observe what you do, Megamouth, then do exact opposite. You are the embodiment of the Goldman Sachs muppet.  Cheesy
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Others that have been and want to contribute to the list of issues that need to be clarified and changed please continue to post so we can compile a list for Ken to work on. Everyone lets please stay on point. All irrelevent posts can be communicated via PM to specific members. Keep it out of the public view as it is a waste of time for everyone to have to filter as they are trying to read posts that are of importance.

1.  Ken needs to come out of the dark by being more transparent about himself as well as his staff. Pictures, videos, contracts, address, etc... All those things need to be out in the open to boost confidence in Ken as well as investors. This will benefit both parties.
2. AMC & VMC need to become one entity that manufactures and mines. All AMC investments should stay within AMC. AMC should manufacture with the money raised by investors for AMC not VMC and should benefit 100% in the selling of hardware. Bottom line we don't need VMC.
3.  Dividends should be paid out to the 20m growth fund and to investors that bought shares. Shares that have yet to be purchased should not be paid in dividends. Revenue generated should be paid like this.

These three are top priority for me. This is where i would like to move forward and work out other details. Any other suggestions?

Good points, I second them all.

This is all interesting stuff, but there has to be a massive pay day for Ken so he works hard to pull off AMC's ambitious plan. How about 20mm for investors, 20mm for the growth fund and 20mm for Ken et al. At the end of the day, 20mm for Ken, as part of a simple 3 way split, may be worth much more than the current 40mm-60mm split now on the table. My reasoning, is if we can get this bad blood purged and all agree to move on, AMC's future value may be realised more quickly. Mining is a race against time, as we all know.

However, to repeat myself from an earlier post, I don't want to see any weak hands (or muppets like Megamouth) benefit or be compensated for any stupid moves they have made in the last few days. If you have lost coins, man up and accept it. Then get on with earning them back. That is the noble way to behave.
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Others that have been and want to contribute to the list of issues that need to be clarified and changed please continue to post so we can compile a list for Ken to work on. Everyone lets please stay on point. All irrelevent posts can be communicated via PM to specific members. Keep it out of the public view as it is a waste of time for everyone to have to filter as they are trying to read posts that are of importance.

1.  Ken needs to come out of the dark by being more transparent about himself as well as his staff. Pictures, videos, contracts, address, etc... All those things need to be out in the open to boost confidence in Ken as well as investors. This will benefit both parties.
2. AMC & VMC need to become one entity that manufactures and mines. All AMC investments should stay within AMC. AMC should manufacture with the money raised by investors for AMC not VMC and should benefit 100% in the selling of hardware. Bottom line we don't need VMC.
3.  Dividends should be paid out to the 20m growth fund and to investors that bought shares. Shares that have yet to be purchased should not be paid in dividends. Revenue generated should be paid like this.

These three are top priority for me. This is where i would like to move forward and work out other details. Any other suggestions?

Good points, I second them all.

This is all interesting stuff, but there has to be a massive pay day for Ken so he works hard to pull off AMC's ambitious plan. How about 20mm for investors, 20mm for the growth fund and 20mm for Ken et al. At the end of the day, 20mm for Ken, as part of a simple 3 way split, may be worth much more than the current 40mm-60mm split now on the table. My reasoning, is if we can get this bad blood purged and all agree to move on, AMC's future value may be realised more quickly. Mining is a race against time, as we all know.

However, to repeat myself from an earlier post, I don't want to see any weak hands (or muppets like Megamouth) benefit or be compensated for any stupid moves they have made in the last few days. If you have lost coins, man up and accept it. Then get on with earning them back. That is the noble way to behave.

Now we are finally moving in the right direction. This is what the investors and Ken should discuss. The sooner the better. Then we can cap out the stock at 60m. No more shares will need to he issued.
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June 30, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
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Crap, the price is up again, and shares are being bought...

We need more negative posts! Maybe dig up an old quote again? Get to work slackers! Keep posting!!!
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June 30, 2013, 07:50:36 PM
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As an investor since early May i have seen my investment go 7-8x and now back to close to where i started from. If Ken really cares about his shareholds and values AMC i hope he takes my requests seriously. It sucks that he has had 2 days and he has yet to reach out to myself as well as other investors in regards to the main issues that we have pointed out. I think we should change the agreement contract between Ken and the investors of AMC as soon as possible.
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June 30, 2013, 08:02:28 PM
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I understand all the doubts about the share splits, those will be all clarified monday in the FAQ, as the answers are more than burried over all the FUD posts.

Ken is NOT receiving ANYTHING from AMC now. He is entitled to NO shares/dividends at the moment.

At this time, only shareholders and the growth fund receive dividends, so effectively it's like the growth fund receives dividends on 40M minus the sold shares to investors.
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June 30, 2013, 08:04:08 PM
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*** Business Experience:

Slaughter Vending and Amusement, Pegasus Business Systems, Advanced Learning Systems, Advanced Software
Solutions, Active Internet Communications - ISP Business axs(tm).net which produced over 2.5 Million
in revenue and over 10,000 customers in 49 states, Canada, and Puerto Rico with over 10 employees.
Turn-key Web Hosting Business running on Amazon.com, Bitcoin mining since 2009.
 
*** Software packages developed:

Internet Cruiser(tm) web browser, Virtual 3D Environments, Individual Profile System(tm) (IPS), Neural
Network, Anonymous Bitcoin Exchange software, Automobile Collision Repair System(tm) (ACRS)

*** Cloud Development:

Web Hosting Business: shopping-cart-now.com running on Amazon.com
 
*** Web Sites Developed With Graphics:

TahoeUltimateRentals.com, shopping-cart-now.com, votecliffyoung.com, and votecliffyoung.com plus many
more over the years.


Has anyone gone into any research looking at Ken's projects. Seeing if there's legitimacy here?

Sorry, but i am not going through all the posts.

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June 30, 2013, 08:20:49 PM
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As an investor since early May i have seen my investment go 7-8x and now back to close to where i started from. If Ken really cares about his shareholds and values AMC i hope he takes my requests seriously. It sucks that he has had 2 days and he has yet to reach out to myself as well as other investors in regards to the main issues that we have pointed out. I think we should change the agreement contract between Ken and the investors of AMC as soon as possible.
chill people it's the weekend.  maybe Ken actually has a life and a family he likes to spend time with.  maybe even go to the pool or something...
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June 30, 2013, 08:25:07 PM
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As an investor since early May i have seen my investment go 7-8x and now back to close to where i started from. If Ken really cares about his shareholds and values AMC i hope he takes my requests seriously. It sucks that he has had 2 days and he has yet to reach out to myself as well as other investors in regards to the main issues that we have pointed out. I think we should change the agreement contract between Ken and the investors of AMC as soon as possible.
chill people it's the weekend.  maybe Ken actually has a life and a family he likes to spend time with.  maybe even go to the pool or something...

Having "a life" doesn't justify lack of communication with shareholders and potential shareholders. With millions of dollars currently at stake amongst the bitcoin community.

I don't hold any shares and never have however.

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June 30, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
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Having "a life" doesn't justify lack of communication with shareholders and potential shareholders

I'm happy to wait until Monday/Tuesday to read the new FAQ then take things from there.
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June 30, 2013, 08:50:33 PM
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*** Business Experience:

Slaughter Vending and Amusement, Pegasus Business Systems, Advanced Learning Systems, Advanced Software
Solutions, Active Internet Communications - ISP Business axs(tm).net which produced over 2.5 Million
in revenue and over 10,000 customers in 49 states, Canada, and Puerto Rico with over 10 employees.
Turn-key Web Hosting Business running on Amazon.com, Bitcoin mining since 2009.
 
*** Software packages developed:

Internet Cruiser(tm) web browser, Virtual 3D Environments, Individual Profile System(tm) (IPS), Neural
Network, Anonymous Bitcoin Exchange software, Automobile Collision Repair System(tm) (ACRS)

*** Cloud Development:

Web Hosting Business: shopping-cart-now.com running on Amazon.com
 
*** Web Sites Developed With Graphics:

TahoeUltimateRentals.com, shopping-cart-now.com, votecliffyoung.com, and votecliffyoung.com plus many
more over the years.


Has anyone gone into any research looking at Ken's projects. Seeing if there's legitimacy here?

Sorry, but i am not going through all the posts.

Great question-

Look up all the generic sounding companies under 'Business Experience' he has supposedly fronted/worked for/delivered mail to? and you will find nothing. It's like typing any three random business related words into google - you come up with a lot but nothing you can pin down.

Apparently he worked on the software side of 'Neural Network' and 'Virtual 3D Environment' what? - it's like he's pulled these titles out of a comic book. Where is the evidence of any of these claims? The only two results I get is under websites and here we have two sites - 'votecliffyoung' which he may have registered and offered for sale??? And also 'TahoeUltimateRentals.com'. I'll fire them off an email and ask them if a 'Ken Slaughter' developed their site. What do we think they will say?
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