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2601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Be patient for your profit on: December 25, 2017, 07:25:05 AM
waiting for 2-3 months is a common thing. when ico is over, and the token has not been shared yet, that is the usual thing. dev also works professionally. sometimes when the tokens are already in, but the exchange rate is still low, we also still wait again until its value goes up and we get profit. be patient is the key.
2602  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing money on bitcoin..! on: December 24, 2017, 02:14:32 AM
I already have plans to invest my money on bitcoin. I will invest my money in bulk in bitcoin. I believe the bitcoin value will continue to increase. but I am still waiting for a decision from the government, whether to close bitcoin or will provide good news with, legalize bitcoin.
2603  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there any good news about Bitcoin from your country? on: December 24, 2017, 02:09:53 AM
oh no, in my country there is bad news. the government plans to close bitcoin in 2018. makes me very sad. How about this?
2604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the difference between a "coin" and "token"? on: December 23, 2017, 10:41:08 AM
My jaw drops off because of how confusing you make this topic.

Token (in blockchain context) - unit of blockchain software.

Coin (in blockchain context) - token, used for trade.

All cryptocoins are tokens. Not all tokens are coins. For example, a smart contract in Ethereum blockchain is a token because it is a software unit inside Ethereum virtual machine. But contracts are not used themselves as a trade medium. They are just sets of rules and conditions that distribute Ether coins.
that means, the token is about the contract deal along with the pay (paid) in the etherum virtual machine. then in deposit, and withdraw, and sell to coins (btc, eth, or others). does that mean so?
2605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Etherdelta has bn hacked on: December 23, 2017, 10:36:45 AM

https://twitter.com/etherdelta/status/943580458616541184

Etherdelta has bn hacked... If you have your fund there... Do not attempt to remove them... The attackers will gain access into your wallet.. And steal all your funds

To check your current holdings on ED use https://deltabalances.github.io

Hackers wallet getting filled up

https://etherscan.io/address/0x3f8a37bde9b15b65c82f9cdd00192e0ba36cc5fc

Watch this video tutorial on how to withdraw your funds from etherdelta without going into the site
https://youtu.be/slru097RrfM

yesterday when I accessed etherdelta, very slowly. I want to check the balance I have, it's very long time. even many times its loading failed. is it the effect of hackers? is it dangerous? because I still keep my balance, I have not yet withdraw.
2606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO is new way to get Free money? on: December 23, 2017, 10:33:03 AM
There is no free in  this world all you have to do is hard work and courage because you can get the bounty after your courage and patience, no free in this world
that's sure, need knowledge too of course. to be online in bitcointalk and join ico also need internet quota and not free. but if here is discussed is about a large initial capital to start trading bitcoin or investment, ico is best way to get bitcoin.
2607  Economy / Economics / Re: do you think bitcoin is controversial ? on: December 22, 2017, 10:22:25 AM
maybe for most entrepreneurs, bitcoin is quite controversial. lately, bitcoin is becoming a trending topic. in the year 2017, in a short time bitcoin capable of racing away. even away from gold. this certainly makes the entrepreneurs and investors a little surprised. while bitcoin has not been legalized by the government. I think it's a natural thing, bitcoin with a high value but not yet get legalized from the government.
2608  Economy / Economics / Re: Becoming wealthy and social responsibility on: December 22, 2017, 10:16:03 AM
bitcon has changed my life personally. before getting to know bitcoin, my days went by just lectures only. leaving, going home, studying and making assignments from college. but after getting to know bitcoin, learning about bitcoin investments, hopes for success even before pass the college, made me even more convinced that I could become rich with bitcoin. for now, even though not 100%, I have started helping my mother to pay my college.
2609  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: December 21, 2017, 11:43:56 AM
Well its really interesting to be a cashless society like other country which they don't use cash intead its on their phone whenever they are just ask the cashless payment they will give their code or phone for you to sent payments even homeless hadnit i watch it in youtube i will tell here when i find it , When it comes in bitcoin too well it is good but it will need internet not unlike the one i watch but i wonder how they will create it.
I am also thinking about it. when a time, people do not use money again as a transaction, and choose bitcoin as a transactional tool, with certain codes that each user owns using their smartphone, and transactions between seller and buyer can be made anywhere. no more cash transactions, all through bitcoin. What do you think?
2610  Economy / Economics / Re: How do I get bitcoin? on: December 21, 2017, 11:37:15 AM
I think, that is in this forum already understand. by following ico project, and get token after ico ends, deposit it to eth, then direct to sell to money or deposit to btc, it's up to you. and it's in my opinion a simple way to get btc. if you think, sites on the internet that share faucet and so it can get bitcoin, you are wrong. it's a scam.
2611  Economy / Economics / Re: plan for the future with bitcoin on: December 21, 2017, 11:31:09 AM
for next year, I still want to mint btc as much as possible. there is no plan for special (for investment). every get btc, directly sold only. and plans for the future again, want to set up a company for bitcoin investments in my area.
2612  Economy / Economics / Re: short term investment or long term invesetment on: December 20, 2017, 06:10:07 AM
actually i prefer short term investment. get a profit in the near future, no matter how small it is. I can not wait for a long time.
2613  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin futures on: December 20, 2017, 06:02:23 AM
the current price of bitcoin mecapai 16830.51 US Dollar. but I begin to doubt when some countries plan to banned bitcoins. thinking of the worst thing that will happen to bitcoin in the future, starts to scare me if bitcoin really gets lost.
2614  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: December 20, 2017, 05:53:03 AM
If for the long term, I would prefer a holding gold. holding btc for long term is very risky, because some countries have started to ban btc. for the short term, btc might be safe. but for the long term, gold will be more profitable because it is definitely worth going up and there is no problem with the government.
2615  Economy / Economics / Re: Still Buying Bitcoin at $100K? on: December 19, 2017, 12:15:14 PM
if you have capital, why not? an entrepreneur does not see how much the price in the market, but the future prospects. seen from price graph, market cap, volatility, and interest of bitcoin in the market. whether it will get profit or not?
2616  Economy / Economics / Re: Where Will The Digital Economy Take Us? on: December 19, 2017, 12:10:32 PM
of course leads us to riches. digital economy will make us a new entrepreneur, whether it is a reliable trader, or make us an excellent accountant.
2617  Economy / Economics / Re: DON'T DO PANIC SELLING !!! on: December 19, 2017, 12:07:11 PM
it's better to see the price graph first, the graph shows up or not. if the graph shows a slight increase, it's better to hold it first. do not rush to sell. if the price graph is down from time to time, it is better to sell it. Essentially, don't panic to sell. look at price chart first.
2618  Economy / Economics / Re: How much important bitcoin for entrepreneurs? on: December 18, 2017, 07:15:48 AM
bitcoin is a digital asset that is now popular and much in demand because its value is very high. in the world of crypto, indeed up and down the price can't be predicted. but when its value rises drastically in the near future, it will be very profitable. the transaction is also easy and safe. it will be very important for an entrepreneur.
2619  Economy / Economics / Re: Indonesia’s Central Bank is Planning to Ban Bitcoin in 2018 on: December 18, 2017, 07:10:44 AM
I've heard this news since the beginning of December. the Indonesian government reasoned, bitcoin is too dangerous because it can be used for money laundering, illegal goods transactions, and terrorist financing. that reason is true, because bitcoin transactions can be done directly between users and without going through the bank. but I don't agree if bitcoin is on the ban, maybe bitcoin friends also disagree. the government should be able to take more equitable action. giving regulation to bitcoin or whatever it is, provided that bitcoin is not in the ban.
how do you think a fair solution for user bitcoin and the government?
2620  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: December 18, 2017, 07:02:22 AM
I think you should split your capital into 2 parts, 1 for the trading purpose to daily income( about 80%) and invest the rest into the new ICO projects which could multiples your investment in a short time.
if you have the capital, buy any btc. hold it, until the value actually goes up. if you have big capital, it is true if we have to divide 50% for trading and 50% to hold. but if you have a little better capital in the hold, trading is too risky, especially for beginners like me.
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