With due respect and recognition to the scientist Charles Darwin for his works and theory, I would say he really did a good job. But as of now I really believe that the theory about evolution had something missing. I am confused why we still have seen monkeys? Why is it that people are not looking like monkeys or monkeys looking to evolve more like to become human. How many years have we been with these animals and why are they still the same? Or why are we still the same. I think the proofs mentioned could be more interesting since we are talking more about genes.
I think you are confused about what thread you are in. If you really have those questions, why don't you just google it? It takes you 20 seconds to google ''why are there still monkeys if we evolved'' which is by the way one of the stupidest arguments ''against evolution''. |
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I dont know if the earth is flat or round , No one can prove it perfectly
A livestream can prove it quite perfectly. |
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Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?
Because not playing sport is not a sport. It's always funny when religious idiots try to claim that atheism is also a religion, but why do that, are they saying religions are stupid or bad? |
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There are ton of really simple experiments to prove the earth isn't flat or that the sun or moon are far away. Very simple one explained here: https://youtu.be/hLPPE3_DVCw?t=4m15s with 3 holes and the sunlight, although 2 holes could be explained by a flat earth and a close sun, using 3 holes and the shadows cast can only be explained by a far away sun and a spherical earth. Or go to Ecuador and watch how water drains at the equator, north and south of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mRQBUyVnWoDemonstration starts around 49 sec mark in the video above. All the flat retards claim they only believe their own eyes, well, I hope they can spare few hundred bucks for the ticket to Ecuador. PS. Someone should start Flat Earth Recovery Clinic/Travel Agency, LOL. lol that is one of the oldest charlatan tricks in existence and shows your true foul character. To everyone for free instant self test.
Take a bucket fill it with water.
Plug the sinkhole.
Fill the sink so it spins either clockwise or anticlockwise.
Wait until the water is quiet.
Now pull the plug.
It drains the direction you entered it.
Now do the same in the opposite direction.
And again it will drain the way you filled it.Water has memory. Shadows don't have memory, you are free the do the experiment and see by yourself. |
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There are ton of really simple experiments to prove the earth isn't flat or that the sun or moon are far away. Very simple one explained here: https://youtu.be/hLPPE3_DVCw?t=4m15s with 3 holes and the sunlight, although 2 holes could be explained by a flat earth and a close sun, using 3 holes and the shadows cast can only be explained by a far away sun and a spherical earth. |
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Now I know the reason why some people with high IQs become atheist. Scientist who were really intelligent do not believe the existence of our Almighty God, Einstein is exception. They became rebellious sometimes, high egos with super high confidence that they do not believe that their someone who is behind all the things we have on Earth. And because of thinking their superiority, they do almost what they want. They abused their health compared to people who believes to the existence of God. These people values their lives as they know that our body is the temple of Christ. Thus, people who believes God values their life. They are mostly the contented person and they are mostly the happy beings.
Einstein did not believe in any religious gods, stop spreading the same old myth. I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. —Letter to Guy H. Raner Jr. (28 September 1949) The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends…. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. That being said, he did talk about the universe and how it operates, he believed it was not random. |
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Some flat earthers are mentally ill but most aren't. The flat earth conspiracy is no crazier than other retarded conspiracies that keep popping up everyday, ranging from celebrities that are still alive like michael jackson to illuminati, aliens visiting us and many more. Most of these people believe in them because they want to feel special, they are usually not very intelligent and they want to somehow feel smarter than everyone, calling people ''sheeple'' and all that.
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1. Even if it didn't, you would still have to live in heaven knowing that your wife, mother or anyone who didn't believe in god are gone forever
2. It actually makes a really good point which is: how can heaven be evil free without turning humans into mindless robots
3. The idea to worship god forever is quite disturbing.
4. Living in heaven with someone that raped you when you were a kid is also quite disturbing.
5. You get to worship god forever and ever, such a meaningful life, right?
The concept of how to reconcile free will and God is a deep one. Are you really interested in exploring this or are you just looking for areas of complexity so you can quickly dismiss the entire matter as "disturbing" or "not meaningful"? If you are interested in this topic it requires some contemplation it as it is one of the deeper theological challenges. Here is a lengthy and a short source of information. The first source is a long video by Rabbi Moishe New. He goes into great depth on the topic of Free Choice, Determinism, and God's Knowledge. Do We Really Have Free Will?https://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/1994469/jewish/Do-We-Really-Have-Free-Will.htmA shorter answer assuming you lack the time to watch the video can be found in the comments section below that video. Here is comment by Ruth Housman sums it up well. "The end point of the debate, is to reach a point in which it isn't a debatable question, because one's WILL then, in terms of relinquishment of free will, is identical to the Will of the Creator, so one freely gives up one's free will for the sake of the story that brought the individual forward, toward the knowledge that One ness is the pervasive force in the universe and that God controls not part but the entire story. Every soul has a journey and every detail of that journey is, paradoxically "known" within a framework that on this "plane" feels like free will. The journey of soul, that does require movement forward, as in rejecting evil inclination, brings one to the final realization it always was, All God." In regards to your critiques. 1. Hopefully, those who have erred in life and beliefs (by definition basically all of us) will be given the opportunity to rectify ourselves after death if we fail to do so in life. We do not have definitive sources knowledge of this currently and theological beliefs vary. 2. Envisioning humans as mindless robots in heaven misunderstands free will see the video lecture above. 3 and 5. What could be more meaningful then honoring the creator and sustainer of the entire universe? 4. If an individual truly repents of a horrific sin and crime they not only reject the sin. They are horrified by it, wish they had never done it, would never do it again, and attempt to make a genuine and full amends for the harm they did. As evil cannot exists in heaven true repentance of all sin would seem a necessary prerequisite. See that's the problem, if God is real and the only proof left for his existence is a book, I would expect that book to have something different from other books like explaining in detail how we have free will or the rules of heaven, instead you have catholics, baptists, orthodox and a ton more, interpreting the book their own way. 1. If that's really the case that also means all kind of rapists, murderers are given that chance too and you find yourself in heaven with all of them, you did good all your life and they didn't and yet you are in the same place, what was the point of life on earth anyways then? Why is this not clearly explained in the bible? 2. No it doesn't. The point is, how is god going to prevent humans from committing sin in heaven, it is not explained in the bible as usual. 3. A god omnipotent and all powerful certainly would not care or need to be worshiped at all. 4. Although you can fully repent, how can god prevent the person from committing a sin afterwards. |
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I was watching a live feed of the ISS, and you know what, I kept waiting and waiting and waiting for the it to go into a part of the earth that was dark, and it never did. I was so irritated because I needed to go shower, but it just kept in sunlight.
Could it all have been faked? A loop?
Did you wait for 24 hours? https://youtu.be/NM2wtte1JRE?t=3m24s Took me 20 seconds to find footage, go back to your cave. |
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 Have you seen lava rock? It's not a mach with every other kind of stone out there. Mud fossils however can and do explain the various kinds of rocks and their features the Earth is made from. The evidence for fossilized animals including giant humans is everywhere, it's just that nobody can see the forest for the trees; the globe Earth mind just can't comprehend a two mile tall elephant. The globe explanation for the creation of the Earth doesn't hold any water, just like the surface of every ball. So you know there are giant human fossils everywhere but they really aren't anywhere because we can't see them? |
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Are you trolling now or did your mental illness finally took over? |
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Well it is a paradox. One can never prove Darwins theory but one can never dismiss it entirely. We have no proof of evolution as it takes place over thousands of years and will have to stick with the theory until we come across a better theory which explains our existence in this world.
Nothing that happened in the past and is not happen currently can be proved to an 100% degree. That being said, we can calculate fossils age, with that we can see for example, the human skull, has been evolving over time, changing, unless you concluded that somehow different humans popped into existence randomly throughout time the best explanation is that we evolved and our skulls evolved too. |
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Angry pinoy. note about the level-headed. could you find the original post to read what it says after "I do believe in Jesus, I do"? that part edited out by level headed is the core of the lonely virgin's whole belief system. but it was censored, why? Why are you now responding with an alt rather than your main account? (for the record, I do believe in Jesus, I do believe him to be alive and to be one of the God's prophets. I believe that he is the saviour of humanity like the grandson of the last prophet)
I do fear God and ask forgiveness every day of my life. I'm 29 years old and a true virgin. lol if you want. I do make mistakes and would try to fix them and improve myself. I have nothing to offer to this world, that is why I'm trying to make a difference. Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."Go make a difference.
I would suggest if any of you are serious about this job. at least make prepare 20-30 different users and different posts [...] Having over 200 good reports isn't being serious enough? It's also senseless to ask for posts by high-ranked members. Spam is spam, regardless of the origin. You'll find plenty of spammers that have high activity/rank. Moreover, the act of seeking out high-rank spamposts is not a key part of a moderator's duties. moving irrelevant topics. deleting off topic replies. I don't care if you worship the devil, just don't invite people to do the same by providing specific details such as posting links to websites asking people how and where to go and what to do in order to worship the devil. That is against free speech and you are using biased opinions. or you all want to get on with your lives, only having the perks of a moderator, not spending time dedicating your lives to your "job"? it's not even a job for you. how could you moderate hundreds of thousands of posts without spending time as a full job? Delete, delete, delete. He wont allow people to post specific details about worshiping the devil but I'm sure he would have no problem with religious nutjobs providing specific details on why and how they should believe in their god. This guy should not moderate anything at all. |
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I personally have been talking to badecker on the '' evolution is a hoax '' thread for easily 40-50 pages and some of it might be redundant but I think is an acceptable conversation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.1940That being said, in between our conversation there are plenty of similar low quality answers, I think you have been following that thread too so you know what I'm talking about. I probably should be reporting more posts there, that's true. I do agree that there are plenty of threads, easily 80% that are just stupid and would fit better in off topic. Ya I am definitely familiar with BADecker and that thread!  My view on it is yes the in between posts need to be fixed those one liners replying only to the title of the thread, they gotta go. But you and BD are putting effort into your posts and having a debate (if talking to a wall can be called a debate LOL). Yes a lot of has been repeated but I don't believe for a second either of you are doing it for post count. I don't have a problem with you guys. BADecker and I are about as polar opposite as I can imagine but I haven't once seen him break a forum rule that I know of, so as far a I'm concerned he can say whatever he wants! I also think he is one of the funniest users on the forum  Notbatman (as you know) is another controversial user. As vile and disgusting as he is I haven't seen him break any forum rules either. I feel sorry for the dude, I think he has a mental illness (seriously) but he is allowed his opinion either way. Anyways as far as I go I say keep these kinds of users talking, the entertainment value is through the roof! They are literally the reason I go to those two boards!!!!! Did you guys pick a mod yet? I haven't read all the answers in this thread yet. No word yet that I saw. Are you applying? I would vote for you. |
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How many of them are duplicate or redundant topics on top of being questionable? There is a 550+ page flat earth thread in OT (and I would guess 80% of it is redundant in itself LOL). There is a ~7 page flat earth thread in P&S. I even posted in the P&S thread advising to use the OT thread (as it's much bigger and funnier!) but still page after page of shit posts rack up in the P&S thread. So it seems the logical thing to do is lock the P&S thread and encourage (with a link) anyone interested in talking about the topic to go to the Off Topic thread for further discussion. Obviously this is one I know about and I am sure there are tons more so the mod in that section will need community support to be effective. I personally have been talking to badecker on the '' evolution is a hoax '' thread for easily 40-50 pages and some of it might be redundant but I think is an acceptable conversation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.1940That being said, in between our conversation there are plenty of similar low quality answers, I think you have been following that thread too so you know what I'm talking about. I probably should be reporting more posts there, that's true. I do agree that there are plenty of threads, easily 80% that are just stupid and would fit better in off topic. Did you guys pick a mod yet? I haven't read all the answers in this thread yet. |
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Mathematical, as you know for every 100 meter length there is 7.8 mm curvature to make a globe of 40000 km circumference (or over 1 km a 7.8 cm hump, 100 km 780 m)  Its all nice and good to have theory but can you please point to some practical evidence please. Mississippi River physical Model proves a Flat Earth WATER RUNS DOWNHIL . Its now a couple of weeks and i still wait for a link to some real practical evidence. The thing i found is just so unpractical.  The design of long bridges, like the Verrazano–Narrows Bridge in New York and the Humber Bridge in England, must take into account the Earth's curvature. In the case of the Verrazano, its two towers are 1 5⁄8 inches farther apart at their tops than at their bases, and in the Humber's case, the difference is 1.3 inches. Long Bridges you say..   How do you know it doesn't have it? |
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I'm a Scientist, have been for most of my life. I have NEVER believed in a supreme being, despite going to Catholic schools my entire life.
I'd like to know.... What is it that compels you to believe in God? How can you argue for his existence? Please bare the following in mind when you answer;
1. There are literally thousands of religions, each of which has members that believe just as firmly as you do, they say they feel a personal connection with God, they have their own religious books and doctrines etc, if you were born in Saudi Arabia, you would be a muslim, in Ireland you would be a protestant, seems like the place you are born denotes your religion, rather than divine intervention. Obviously you can't all be right, so how do you know YOU are.
2. Most religions state that God is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, all-present and eternal. If this is the case, why are people punished for sins by an all loving God, who predestined them to commit their sins by knowing the future? Why is there bone cancer in Children, and insects that burrow into the eyes of infants making them blind, could an all loving God not have imagined a reality without this? And why is there such overwhelming evidence AGAINST the existence of a creator?
3. Since the scientific era God has slowly receded into the shadows, God used to be held responsible for most things, e.g. people offered sacrifices for good health, prayed for rain, thought that God pulled the sun across the sky, created plagues etc. Now we know he does none of these, and God has been reduced to a "God of the gaps" whereby he is still attributed to things we cannot yet explain with science, doesn't seem very powerful anymore.
I'll try to respond to the major points in this thread attempting to dismantle them.
I do believe that God exist, without Him we are nothing, but religion,science, philosophy, money, good deeds, and good works can't give salvation. Just believe that Jesus is the Christ because He is the Only way to meet God. If you will observe this world there's many problem because of satan, sin and people are separated from God. John 3;16 For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believe in Him shall not perish but have Eternal life. Yes that is true. God created the world and all that is in the world including mankind. No one can ever do that because there is only one God, the most powerful God. No words can contain Him. The Bible is the proof and basis of everything. You only need to believe even if you do not see Him. Even the end of the world is written in there, the coming of the anti christ and the second coming of the Lord. How do you know the real god is not Zeus or Allah? How is the Bible, a book, proof of anything? Is the Harry potter book proof that harry potter exists? Why would I believe in something just for the sake of it. People have been saying that the second coming is near for thousands of years. People say lots of stuff. The Bible says that the second coming is soon. If the second coming doesn't happen for 10 million years, yet, it will be soon. How can that be? If you live over 100 years, it won't be much over. The next thing you will see after you die out of your short life, is Jesus coming in the clouds, and calling you out of the grave. One hundred years isn't long in the scheme of time. He is coming soon. He is coming for you soon.  You mean Zeus, not jesus. |
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That's nice dude, I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with people that come here exclusively to get paid from signature campaigns as long as they take it seriously. If you think of it like a real job and you try really hard I don't see any problem.
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I'm a Scientist, have been for most of my life. I have NEVER believed in a supreme being, despite going to Catholic schools my entire life.
I'd like to know.... What is it that compels you to believe in God? How can you argue for his existence? Please bare the following in mind when you answer;
1. There are literally thousands of religions, each of which has members that believe just as firmly as you do, they say they feel a personal connection with God, they have their own religious books and doctrines etc, if you were born in Saudi Arabia, you would be a muslim, in Ireland you would be a protestant, seems like the place you are born denotes your religion, rather than divine intervention. Obviously you can't all be right, so how do you know YOU are.
2. Most religions state that God is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, all-present and eternal. If this is the case, why are people punished for sins by an all loving God, who predestined them to commit their sins by knowing the future? Why is there bone cancer in Children, and insects that burrow into the eyes of infants making them blind, could an all loving God not have imagined a reality without this? And why is there such overwhelming evidence AGAINST the existence of a creator?
3. Since the scientific era God has slowly receded into the shadows, God used to be held responsible for most things, e.g. people offered sacrifices for good health, prayed for rain, thought that God pulled the sun across the sky, created plagues etc. Now we know he does none of these, and God has been reduced to a "God of the gaps" whereby he is still attributed to things we cannot yet explain with science, doesn't seem very powerful anymore.
I'll try to respond to the major points in this thread attempting to dismantle them.
I do believe that God exist, without Him we are nothing, but religion,science, philosophy, money, good deeds, and good works can't give salvation. Just believe that Jesus is the Christ because He is the Only way to meet God. If you will observe this world there's many problem because of satan, sin and people are separated from God. John 3;16 For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believe in Him shall not perish but have Eternal life. Yes that is true. God created the world and all that is in the world including mankind. No one can ever do that because there is only one God, the most powerful God. No words can contain Him. The Bible is the proof and basis of everything. You only need to believe even if you do not see Him. Even the end of the world is written in there, the coming of the anti christ and the second coming of the Lord. How do you know the real god is not Zeus or Allah? How is the Bible, a book, proof of anything? Is the Harry potter book proof that harry potter exists? Why would I believe in something just for the sake of it. People have been saying that the second coming is near for thousands of years. |
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Science is not everything. Science doesnt have the explanations to all things. How can you expect science to explain and understand if indeed God is the creator of the universe? How big is the universe? Science is made up of tiny brain of human being and how do you think a tiny dot of brain can contain the maker of the universe? It is like putting the whole ocean into a drinking glass container. A carnal mind will never understand spiritual matters. Science say to see is to believe, spiritual says believe and you will see.
Why do you trust religion to answer those questions? Is it even answerable by science? I don't know, that's not the point is it? You are saying science doesn't have all the answers which is true but why do you believe religion has the answers? You didn't answer my question. |
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