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26141  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: December 30, 2016, 02:23:13 AM
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Science is written in books. Science  as shown in my links, proves God exists. Everybody has the proof. But nobody will understand it if they don't look at it and think about it.

Aristotle didn't have or use science?? You are getting a little goofy here.

God created science at the same time He created the universe. He, having created it, can use it way better than us weak and ignorant humans.

Cool

You are very ignorant of the truth.  Your statements have no basis in reality.  Your God concept is entirely in YOUR brain.
My statements, themselves, show that they have basis in reality. But nobody knows this until he compares my statements with reality.

Simply believing that what you say is true, isn't the thing that makes it true. The only thing that makes your statements true is if they match the truth.


I bet every single Christian has a different interpretation and imagines God in a different way.
Yes, and even married Christians have different interpretations of things. What's the big deal? Nobody, in the depths of his/her mind has exactly the same interpretation as anyone else regarding any topic, or any visualization that they might have.



I'm telling you God does not exist because there is no physical evidence that can be studied by modern science (using the scientific method).
There are lots of things that exist without any physical evidence. Consider the past. All the things that were future at one time, and present for an instant, are now things that exist in the past. Yet they don't have any physical evidence in their past state, even though they exist in their past state.



You are romanticising about some ancient myth and you hope this will somehow help you.
God is not a myth, as has been shown to you over and over. However, you are a bit correct when you say that I am romanticizing. God, Himself, tells us that He is love, and commands us to love Him.



BTW, you are a very ignorant man, I'm definitely not.  You are ignoring all the modern science and reducing your world view to a world view of a bronze age goat herder.


All men are very ignorant men, especially when compared with the knowledge that God has. Are you trying to say that you are an ignorant woman?

Modern science itself says that it should be changed if it becomes apparent that it us wrong. Consider the EMDrive. Science will need to rewrite physics, because engineering shows that the EMDrive works, even though it shouldn't according to modern physics. When you ignore the basic laws of physics like you have been, and try to replace them with a bunch of unknowns, you are the one who is getting away from reality.

Goat milk produces some of the healthiest cheese and butter. And the milk is quite good all by itself. Even goat hair - mohair - can be woven into good cloth if you work at it.

Cool
26142  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 30, 2016, 02:02:16 AM
Anyone who claims that they are not religious but make judgments about religious topics (eg: truth of the Bible, non-existence of God, morality of adultery, etc.) has made a religious statement. Belief in naturalism by atheists is their faith.

Not really.  Just like

criticising hunting will not make you a hunter - Will make you a religious critic of hunting.

or criticizing prostitution will not make you a prostitute - Will make you a religious critic of prostitution.

BTW, naturalism is not a faith, it is a worldview.  By DEFINITION, no faith is required to have this position. - By nature of mankind, faith is required in everything, because nobody knows what will happen in the next second. We live by faith. If we didn't, we would go crazy with fear.


Cool

I think people who need answers for everything need God concept to fill in the gaps in their knowledge.  I am not afraid to say: "I don't know" instead of "God did it".
You are finally catching on a little. They call these kinds of people scientists.



I don't believe in any Gods, ghosts or any supernatural phenomena.   I don't know what is going to happen next, but I'm not afraid.
Obviously, you are SAYING that you don't believe. But the fact that you adamantly say that there is no God, when you don't know for a fact that there is no God, shows that you are setting yourself up as god, higher than any God or potential god... especially in view of all the evidence and facts that show God, that I and many others proclaim. So, you are quite mixed up, and need some spiritual or psychological guidance.



I must be a different human subspecies, I have a missing 'faith' gene :-)


Don't pick on yourself like that. You aren't some kind of a different subhuman species. The fact that God is maintaining order and stability in everything, gives us all a feeling of false security. But if we didn't have it, there would be no pleasure or joy or laughing or fun in life. And God wants us to have these things... according to the ways that are beneficial for us, that He shows us in His Word, the Bible.

Cool
26143  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: December 29, 2016, 10:47:03 PM
I understand what you're trying to say with programming/machine like posts around the forum
However, what I do not understand how you can tie a specific religion with this kind of thinking

If you believe there is a maker because of the things you've written here
How do you believe there is someone who has anything to do with the bible, who would actually care what a puny human does on this small rock in the universe?

I can grasp this concept of a deity, but tieing it to one of the mainstream religions.. That.. I cannot do.

The first step is to ask yourself how much you can understand about somebody who is trillions of times smarter than we are. Would we know... would we even have a hint... of what his goals and orientations and intentions are?

Once you are open to the idea that we don't naturally know much about God, then you can look around you to see that life has some good. Because of the good, it could be surmised that God is trying to do good by us, for whatever reasons He might have.

A step further along might include looking for methods that God might use to talk to us. After all, people of the whole world have formed many religions. And even atheism has qualities of religion enough so that it can be called a religion. What method would God use to talk to people? And why wouldn't He simply step out and tell all of us directly?

The various religions in the world have strength. Which of them goes way out, above and beyond in its strength?

It takes investigation. It isn't easy. But we in the modern world have the "luck" of being able to check the religions out in ways never done in past times.

It is important. When you have a Being that is trillions of times smarter than we are, and a universe that is possibly infinite, we might not even know it if the Being were collapsing the universe, and were holding our His hand through a religion to save some of us... in a way that made perfect sense, even though we don't understand it because of our weakness in being able to think.

Time to study the major religions, looking for one that is way ahead of the rest in some ways.

Cool

Maybe he tricked you? - You mean that you understand the science and evidence that shows God exists?

Even if we indulge your pseudo-intellectual arguments about the "scientific proof of god", they don't point to any specific religion - just a creator of life. There is nothing to suggest a Christian god is any more likely than say, the Hindu gods or the Egyptian gods. - Don't indulge anything of mine. Rather, look it over and use your head to prove what I say, to yourself. If you are going to understand a theistic religion accurately, you have to put yourself into the position of understanding that God exists. This understanding is simply the start. Once you understand that God exists, then you can go out and find the religion that most correctly describes Who and What God is.

Even if your "proofs of god" were valid (they're not by the way), they don't tell us which is the real god. You made that up by yourself, by reading the Bible a lot. A muslim would do the same, by reading the Quran a lot, maybe I read the Egyptian book of the Dead every night and think those gods are better... - What proofs do I have? I don't have any. Those proofs are accepted by all science, even though many individual scientists don't look at what science has proven to them - God. Many other scientists understand that God exists. And certainly, the earth and universe are not mine. I am simply showing you the evidence. It's almost like you have never really looked at the earth before.

Cool

Religious people have no scientific proof.  It is just a book they have read and a gut feeling that the God 'must' exist because the universe is so complicated.
This is standard 'God of the gaps', or GOG.

Science was developed in a completely different period in our history than religions.  There is no science in Quran, Bible or Talmud.

Science actually does not deal with God because there is nothing to study.  So stop talking about science and God in the same sentence.


Science is written in books. Science  as shown in my links, proves God exists. Everybody has the proof. But nobody will understand it if they don't look at it and think about it.

Aristotle didn't have or use science?? You are getting a little goofy here.

God created science at the same time He created the universe. He, having created it, can use it way better than us weak and ignorant humans.

Cool
26144  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: December 29, 2016, 10:40:34 PM

It also tells you to:
Kill
To not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material
Strictly forbids you from eating rabbit, shellfish, pork, weasels, scavengers, reptiles, and owls
Own slaves
Not accept disabilities
Not to plant two crops in the same field
No Jewelry
And finally.... a rape victim must marry their perpetrator.

How many of these do you do?


Nope. You are wrong. The Bible doesn't tell anybody to do these things. Those instructions are listed in the Old Testament, and were for the ancient nation of Israel. They aren't for today's Israel, because Israel has stepped out of the God-fearing nation that ancient Israel was.

The New Testament is for everyone. It tells nobody to do the things you have listed.

However, those rules you have listed, under similar life circumstances today as were found in ancient Israel back then, are some of the best rules that any nation can follow.

Cool

Stats I see you mentioned the Deuteronomy prohibition on eating pork. Utterly silly right? No reason at all to not eat pork. Religious scaremongering. Hold on wait a second.

Deuteronomy 14:8
"The pig is also unclean; although it has a divided hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses."


Processed meat 'early death' link
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-21682779
Quote
Sausages, ham, bacon and other processed meats appear to increase the risk of dying young, a study of half a million people across Europe suggests.

It concluded diets high in processed meats were linked to cardiovascular disease, cancer and early deaths.
The researchers, writing in the journal BMC Medicine, said salt and chemicals used to preserve the meat may damage health.
...
It showed people who ate a lot of processed meat were also more likely to smoke, be obese and have other behaviours known to damage health.

However, the researchers said even after those risk factors were accounted for, processed meat still damaged health.
One in every 17 people followed in the study died. However, those eating more than 160g of processed meat a day - roughly two sausages and a slice of bacon - were 44% more likely to die over a typical follow-up time of 12.7 years than those eating about 20g.
...
"Something has been done to it to extend its shelf life, or to change its taste, or to make it more palatable in some way... and this could be a traditional process like curing or salting."

She said even good quality ham or sausages were still classed as processed meat, while homemade burgers using fresh meat were not.

Processed meats do cause cancer - WHO
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34615621
Quote
Processed meats - such as bacon, sausages and ham - do cause cancer, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

Its report said 50g of processed meat a day - less than two slices of bacon - increased the chance of developing colorectal cancer by 18%.

Processed meat includes bacon, sausages, hot dogs, salami, corned beef, beef jerky and ham as well as canned meat and meat-based sauces.

"For an individual, the risk of developing colorectal (bowel) cancer because of their consumption of processed meat remains small, but this risk increases with the amount of meat consumed," Dr Kurt Straif from the WHO said.


Processed meat 'could be bad for asthma'

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-38370057
Quote
The survey looked specifically at asthma symptoms - breathlessness, wheeze, chest tightness - and intake of cured meat: a single portion was two slices of ham, one sausage or two slices of salami.

Among the people with asthma, higher meat consumption was linked with a worsening of their lung symptoms.
People who said they consumed more than four portions a week - eight slices of ham or four sausages, for example - had the biggest deterioration of their asthma by the end of the study.

The experts stress that their work cannot prove diet is definitely to blame. There are lots of factors in a person's life that can make their asthma worse.

The researchers tried to eliminate the most obvious ones, controlling for things like obesity, and the link between processed meat and worsening asthma remained.


Processed anything is bad for you.  It does not matter if it is pork or beef or chicken.

You don't believe me? Eat cold cuts, or 'chicken nuggets', see how long you'll last.

So put your Bible away, it has no wisdom for today's world.  People who wrote it were morons by today's standards.


While you are right about all processed meats, three things:
1. Pork is way worse;
2. The people of ancient Israel didn't use processing like we do;
3. Raw beef is fun, but raw pork can kill you.

Cool
26145  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 29, 2016, 10:35:50 PM
Close up it appears to be sea level. At a distance it becomes apparent that the sea is curved.

Show us where sea level becomes sea curve.

You can't, because it doesn't, so fuck off.


Okay, so maybe I have it backwards.

Get yourself a glass drinking glass. Carefully fill it with water all the way to the top. Then very carefully add some more water. The water will actually hump up above the glace. It will curve at the edges so that it can hump above the glass.

There is the start of your curvature of the water, and the earth. Right in your kitchen.

Cool






I'm willing to bet surface tension leads down some kind of rabbit hole.

Yes, but... the direction of funnel water spin is related to the spin of the globe.    Cool
26146  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: December 29, 2016, 10:28:35 PM
I understand what you're trying to say with programming/machine like posts around the forum
However, what I do not understand how you can tie a specific religion with this kind of thinking

If you believe there is a maker because of the things you've written here
How do you believe there is someone who has anything to do with the bible, who would actually care what a puny human does on this small rock in the universe?

I can grasp this concept of a deity, but tieing it to one of the mainstream religions.. That.. I cannot do.

The first step is to ask yourself how much you can understand about somebody who is trillions of times smarter than we are. Would we know... would we even have a hint... of what his goals and orientations and intentions are?

Once you are open to the idea that we don't naturally know much about God, then you can look around you to see that life has some good. Because of the good, it could be surmised that God is trying to do good by us, for whatever reasons He might have.

A step further along might include looking for methods that God might use to talk to us. After all, people of the whole world have formed many religions. And even atheism has qualities of religion enough so that it can be called a religion. What method would God use to talk to people? And why wouldn't He simply step out and tell all of us directly?

The various religions in the world have strength. Which of them goes way out, above and beyond in its strength?

It takes investigation. It isn't easy. But we in the modern world have the "luck" of being able to check the religions out in ways never done in past times.

It is important. When you have a Being that is trillions of times smarter than we are, and a universe that is possibly infinite, we might not even know it if the Being were collapsing the universe, and were holding our His hand through a religion to save some of us... in a way that made perfect sense, even though we don't understand it because of our weakness in being able to think.

Time to study the major religions, looking for one that is way ahead of the rest in some ways.

Cool

Maybe he tricked you? - You mean that you understand the science and evidence that shows God exists?

Even if we indulge your pseudo-intellectual arguments about the "scientific proof of god", they don't point to any specific religion - just a creator of life. There is nothing to suggest a Christian god is any more likely than say, the Hindu gods or the Egyptian gods. - Don't indulge anything of mine. Rather, look it over and use your head to prove what I say, to yourself. If you are going to understand a theistic religion accurately, you have to put yourself into the position of understanding that God exists. This understanding is simply the start. Once you understand that God exists, then you can go out and find the religion that most correctly describes Who and What God is.

Even if your "proofs of god" were valid (they're not by the way), they don't tell us which is the real god. You made that up by yourself, by reading the Bible a lot. A muslim would do the same, by reading the Quran a lot, maybe I read the Egyptian book of the Dead every night and think those gods are better... - What proofs do I have? I don't have any. Those proofs are accepted by all science, even though many individual scientists don't look at what science has proven to them - God. Many other scientists understand that God exists. And certainly, the earth and universe are not mine. I am simply showing you the evidence. It's almost like you have never really looked at the earth before.

Cool
26147  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: December 29, 2016, 10:17:02 PM
Guns have their uses but people use them for the wrong things.

Were an aggressive race and when we get angry we do stupid things. Imagine having a gun and using it to do stupid things, you cant take those things back. Punching someone and shooting someone have very different outcomes. Because we as humans can't control our emotions I am all for gun control. Civilians shouldn't have them for any reason.

Cops need to be trained in non-lethal force first, every one of them should be armed with a tazer.


We already have gun control. If people are against guns, they don't have any. That is personal gun control. It is your freedom.

Now if you get together with a bunch of your friends, and force others to not have guns, that is taking freedom away from others.

But if you decide to take freedom away, how are you going to do it? If you do it using guns, then you are a hypocrite. If you hire gunmen (Government) to do it, then you lose the rest of your freedom to the gunmen any time they want to take control of you at the point of a gun.


If everybody decided to not use guns, voluntarily, people would still die from other forms of violence, or from old age. Since, as you suggested, it is the nature of people to remain violent at times, let everyone have guns so that the peaceful people can protect themselves from the violent ones. And, so that the peaceful people will remain peaceful under threat of gun violence against them if they become violent with their guns for no reason.

Cool
We need to make a choice or freedom or security. We have the right to do anything but what it will not know. Therefore, if you allow private weapons, who will lose something. This uniquely.

Soldiers in formation use guns. They might be acting in public. But their use is private use, because they each control their gun.

Soldiers and police are simply government. They are people. Let everyone be his own Government because everyone is a "people" just like Government people are, and stop trying to rule others and take their freedom away.

Cool
26148  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Aerofobia on: December 29, 2016, 10:11:35 PM

There is more. Look up the link.

What is that about??
The rules of how to be a "muslim"? This is not my Business, how they need to deal in it.
The correct message of Quran is traduced in Sharia Law.

The Shariah Law explain clear the right to be non muslim.
I'm not a muslim and this is protected by Shariah Law and Quran.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5293/5521198901_a9ba98972c.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2Ix6qKXFH0E/UmfsKl3KlPI/AAAAAAAAAag/QfASbNfqrlE/s1600/IMG_3542.jpg

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cf77be3aa5dd1377d1368a2a674fa707-c?convert_to_webp=true

If You have questions call someone in Grozny, they will teach You about Islam.
They beat shit out from salafi jihadists, that have no idea in Quran and are conducted by such similar listening of Quran "to kill" etc.

All Islam is based in the Koran and Hadiths. If Shariah Law does NOT follow the Koran, then it is not Islamic, and the clerics are liars. What I was showing you is that Islam is NOT a religion of peace to people other than Muslims. And, it essentially is not a religion of peace even to Muslims.

I certainly am not trying to get you to look at the stuff that I posted. I am simply trying to explain that the general understanding of Muslims, that their religions is one of peace, is wrong understanding. The stuff I posted is there for anyone who wants to see that I am not making this up.

Jihadists follow Koran Law better than the peaceful Muslims. It is written in the Koran, and I showed some of the Koran sites, above.

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26149  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: December 29, 2016, 10:05:05 PM

Not because they said it only. But because the Holy Spirit resonates with my spirit in ways that firmly tell me that they are correct.

Cool

Yes, but my Holy Noodlage came to me in my dreams, it told me you started bullshitting.

Well, you have a start there. Now investigate the religions to see if one of them is way ahead of all the rest, and why.

Cool

Pastafarianism, because it believes in evolution, it mocks those who believe that an almighty maker has anything to do with the Bible, Quran and Torah.

Also, if God is almighty
Can he create a rock so heavy, even he can't lift it?

If he can, he is not almighty
If he can't, he is not almighty

It's a paradox, since God cannot be almighty
Nothing in the universe, is almighty

What does evolution have to do with anything? Evolution is simply change that God set in place in the universe.

God created the rock he couldn't lift when He made Jesus. Then, the Rock lifted itself, out of love for God.

Cool

So he could not lift the rock and died on the cross, killed by humans.  Some powerful god you got there..

You talks so silly. The Rock WAS and IS God.    Cool
26150  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: December 29, 2016, 10:00:37 PM

It also tells you to:
Kill
To not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material
Strictly forbids you from eating rabbit, shellfish, pork, weasels, scavengers, reptiles, and owls
Own slaves
Not accept disabilities
Not to plant two crops in the same field
No Jewelry
And finally.... a rape victim must marry their perpetrator.

How many of these do you do?


Nope. You are wrong. The Bible doesn't tell anybody to do these things. Those instructions are listed in the Old Testament, and were for the ancient nation of Israel. They aren't for today's Israel, because Israel has stepped out of the God-fearing nation that ancient Israel was.

The New Testament is for everyone. It tells nobody to do the things you have listed.

However, those rules you have listed, under similar life circumstances today as were found in ancient Israel back then, are some of the best rules that any nation can follow.

Cool
26151  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: December 29, 2016, 09:55:40 PM
I dont believe in someone who people are calling god and that he is looking at us and like this stuff.

But it is nearly for 100% sure, that there are things, that are a trillion times smarter that we are,
there must something extist that make this one universe, in that we are living.

Because like every theorie is saying, nothing can build by itself.


Perhaps you never belong to any religions. Religion is the belief in the god's power who will be always beside us in all works
This fact helps us more powers to overcome all challenges in our life. Therefore I Trust in God.


We all are born into one religion or other. - But many of us change our religions over time.

I understand your need for an imaginary friend.  Many kids have them and they grow out of them. - But many adults never come to an understanding that God exists, even when it is shown directly to them, like:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.


The problem I have is when people try to preach to others that their imaginary friend exists because someone wrote it down in a book. - Good thinking. Now use science and the reality of the world, as shown in the links, above, to start by seeing that God exists.

A book and a lot of marketing all it takes to operate this scam. - Once you understand that God exists, then get into the Book to find out the details about Him.

I don't care if it helps you. People think Earth is 6000 years old.  That is a problem for everyone. - A worse problem is blindly listening to a bunch of self-styled, self-contradictory, liar scientists, and others, who claim all kinds of ages for they earth that they will never be able to back up.

Such line of thinking blocks any scientific progress. - Yes. Many scientists and others block scientific progress.

When people homeschool their kids on this BS they raise new generation of jihadists. - So, lets find and express only the true parts of science, so that public schooled kids can learn the truth just like the home schooled kids.

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26152  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: December 29, 2016, 09:43:58 PM
I like the way BADecker has posted in a topic which is called "Why I am an Atheist".

He loves to try and fight the fact he is not an Atheist by trolling others, when in fact he is no different to the rest of us and does not believe in any God.

Well played Sir.

Thank you.

But you are missing one little point. In the same way that neither I, nor you, nor anyone else can make a human body and life... in that same way, nobody can believe in God without God strength holding him in that faith.

Because of this, I declare to you that I am weaker than you. Why? I don't have enough strength to fight God, and think that I am an atheist like you can. I am too weak. God is stronger in me than I am. I can't resist Him. But (unfortunately for you) you still have strength to fight God-faith.

However, this is talking about faith... faith which has to do with what God tells us, both in words, and directly through our spirits. Knowledge that God exists is undeniable, except by the ignorant, the unthinking, and by liars. You can see why, here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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26153  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cowardice of the U.S.A. on: December 29, 2016, 09:36:28 PM
For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards.  Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?



Who saved who in 1945? please tell, thanks.

The US saved Europe and probably the rest of the world when they landed on Normandy beaches in 1944 and defeated the Nazis in 1945. If it wasn't for the US then the its more than likely that Russia would have defeated the Nazis and kept Europe for themselves. Remember what they did to the Ukrainians afterward. That would have happened to the rest of Europe. USA saved all those people. Plus their efforts before committing ground troops are notable. Without supplies and trucks the Nazis would have defeated Russia.

USA saved your asses and now you're all hating on it.

Yes, but. Where is the bravery in this? The U.S.A. should have been really brave, and let the rest of the world destroy itself. But we have such pity, and we try to help people all over the place.

We Americans need to stand bold and brave, and let the rest of the world kill itself off. Finally there will be peace. Then we can go in and RIGHTLY lay claim to the uninhabited lands worldwide.

Be brave, Americans! Your reward will be the world.

Cool

The bravery happened when the soldiers exited their landing craft and got creamed by fire from MG42s. Then they kept moving forward to take the beach, the bunkers and so on. Walking over the bodies of their dead and dying friends. They kept going. That's bravery.

The US also stayed out of WW2 for as long as possible. The Japan attack was known about, history tells us that the US missed the attack because of incompetence. I say they let it happen to get the US public on their side. They knew they had to go in, it was just a matter of convincing the civilians it was the right move. What better way..


Of course it was bravery. But it was bravery done for the cowardly reasons of trying to keep peace in warring Euurope, a place that has been warring almost as long as the Middle East. So, it was foolish bravery.

Normandy didn't really have anything to do with Japan. The whole thing was done by the one-worlders to try to take over the world. They realized that Europeans didn't have the strength to stop fighting among themselves. So they pushed America into the war.

Definitely Americans are brave and bold. But they are stupid to let their leaders control them into disastrous situations, like the lives lost at Normandy.

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26154  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why isn't public transport free? on: December 29, 2016, 09:30:30 PM
The best things in life are free. Nobody can give you your life back when you die. But you got it free... at least the first time around.

Dumb things like transportation are not free, and often cost a lot. But the important thing - your life - was given to you free.

Cool
26155  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S.A a nation of evil on: December 29, 2016, 09:27:18 PM
From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1731986.msg17340127#msg17340127 :
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We Americans need to stand bold and brave, and let the rest of the world kill itself off. Finally there will be peace. Then we can go in and RIGHTLY lay claim to the uninhabited lands worldwide.

Be brave, Americans! Your reward will be the world.

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26156  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Which would you rather have, feminism or cancer? on: December 29, 2016, 09:24:08 PM
All joking aside, peruse http://naturalnews.com/ to see a whole bunch of ways to stop cancer, and to remain healthy so you never get cancer.

Feminism is one of the things that causes stress in our lives. Stress can cause cancer, but not if you follow the instructions throughout http://naturalnews.com/.

BTW, this information is NOT for the seriously feministic people. Why not? Because it will help to straighten out their hormones, and their feminism will disappear.

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26157  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: December 29, 2016, 09:19:10 PM
First, you have to ask yourself, why we need country?
What is the purpose of country, government, schools, public services?
If you agree that we need all this public services than you have to accept simple fact that someone have to pay for it.
What about health insurance?
Military?
Are you really so naive to think that we, in today's world, don't need military or that anyone can afford doctor?
What about unemployed or homeless people?
Simple truth is that we need government and we need taxes.
How to organize public services and taxes, it's another question and there is no perfect answer.



Sure man, let's say we do need the government to do all of these things, but this isn't the question.  The question is "Is taxation theft?", personally I feel government should have some responsibilities such as maintaining a courts system, police, fire, national defense and I believe these should be achieved by some type of taxation. However, I still think taxation is theft, regardless how noble the cause, taking money from non-consenting people is theft, correct?

Right. When we get government to do all the good things that they do for us, it's because they steal a big chunk of our property while they do the little good they do.

This is good:
1. Roads and other benefits;
2. Government directing the making of roads and other benefits.
3. People paying government to do the directing.

What we get is:
1. Roads and other benefits;
2. Government directing the making of roads and other benefits.
3. People paying government to do the directing.
4. Government people covertly siphoning off a whole lot of the pay inappropriately.

Let's cut out the middleman and do the work ourselves, and save a whole bunch of our property from the middleman.

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26158  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cowardice of the U.S.A. on: December 29, 2016, 09:12:45 PM
For all the talk of bravery, people of the u.s. are some of the biggest most pathetic cowards.  Actions speak louder than words.

What actions are you talking about? You mean like when they saved the world from tyranny in 1945?



Who saved who in 1945? please tell, thanks.

The US saved Europe and probably the rest of the world when they landed on Normandy beaches in 1944 and defeated the Nazis in 1945. If it wasn't for the US then the its more than likely that Russia would have defeated the Nazis and kept Europe for themselves. Remember what they did to the Ukrainians afterward. That would have happened to the rest of Europe. USA saved all those people. Plus their efforts before committing ground troops are notable. Without supplies and trucks the Nazis would have defeated Russia.

USA saved your asses and now you're all hating on it.

Yes, but. Where is the bravery in this? The U.S.A. should have been really brave, and let the rest of the world destroy itself. But we have such pity, and we try to help people all over the place.

We Americans need to stand bold and brave, and let the rest of the world kill itself off. Finally there will be peace. Then we can go in and RIGHTLY lay claim to the uninhabited lands worldwide.

Be brave, Americans! Your reward will be the world.

Cool
26159  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 29, 2016, 09:07:17 PM
Anyone who claims that they are not religious but make judgments about religious topics (eg: truth of the Bible, non-existence of God, morality of adultery, etc.) has made a religious statement. Belief in naturalism by atheists is their faith.

Religious people are always trying to prove they are better than you. Here we have one of them calling us inferior. Same shit as ISIS only non violent.. Its no wonder religion has caused so much suffering world wide. Its followers look down upon other religious beliefs as well as non believers. Completely the opposite of what their holy books teach them.

You sir need more church and less bitcointalk it seems..

People who try to be non-religious are always proving that they are hypocritical, or at least weak thinkers. Here we have someone claiming that someone else is calling non-religious claiming people inferior, when the opposite is true. The non-religious claiming person is calling himself and the rest of his kind inferior.

In the spirit of keeping the non-religious claiming people NON-inferior, one must agree with them, at least in this instance. So they ARE inferior, by their own claim.

 Tongue
26160  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 29, 2016, 09:01:10 PM
Anyone who claims that they are not religious but make judgments about religious topics (eg: truth of the Bible, non-existence of God, morality of adultery, etc.) has made a religious statement. Belief in naturalism by atheists is their faith.

Not really.  Just like

criticising hunting will not make you a hunter - Will make you a religious critic of hunting.

or criticizing prostitution will not make you a prostitute - Will make you a religious critic of prostitution.

BTW, naturalism is not a faith, it is a worldview.  By DEFINITION, no faith is required to have this position. - By nature of mankind, faith is required in everything, because nobody knows what will happen in the next second. We live by faith. If we didn't, we would go crazy with fear.


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