7 data points is a leading indicator?

More like a blip on a scatterplot.

probably blame you for his returns

While I don't have these cards, I have noticed the dummy plug requirement seems to vary. I've used Xubuntu / Ubuntu / Debian / BAMT all with varying cards, on recent drivers and cgminer builds, and never had to use a dummy plug for 1 or multi-GPU setups.

I'm thinking it could be a motherboard/bios thing as well as setting in the OS itself.

Situations may vary of course, but this has been my experience. None of the units in my farm have dummy plugs, or anything connected to them at all except an ethernet and power cable.

This is one of the better threads for lunchtime humor reading

Responded.

Will also take a personal house-maid for trade. Hahaha

I'm a neat freak but sometimes don't have time to keep the estate clean lol

Seriously though, all interests welcome.

I bought it around 2006 or so, TMK they're not on any federal ban list (yet).

Various states and localities which don't follow the Constitution and Bill or Rights have mandates against it or some of the accessories, but not at a federal level.

This is a very useful thread for anyone, like myself, who's currently working through all of this. It also helps validate some of what I've been noticing myself.

Thanks!

I like Rob's rendition.

I wouldn't pay $5 for it though, no offense lol. Be cheaper to just laser print on card stock and laminate it.

+1 to the coinop case. I say rock it. Maybe someone can make an arcade game where you use bitcoins and can win them back? That'd be neat as hell.

I miss those days. My dad used to work for one of the largest coinop/billiard leasing companies in my area. I'd get to preview and play games long before they hit the streets, and I'd get to play them for free at their warehouse. They would assemble them and let them sit for awhile before they got shipped out. Super fun.

I go into arcades these days and it's just not the same. Home game systems surpass the graphics by far, and the arcade world is really dying hard and fast. So many good memories.

If you refund the hosting, are you going to tell KNC where to ship it (to the winning buyer's locale), thus avoiding any issue with KNC having to change address.

So on one of my threads on the BFL forum, I pointed out how BFL claimed their method of clearing the backlog would be to have individual production/parts lines for each product, so they'd all move together super fast. I pointed out how clearly there's some huge failures going on in the company as their Jally line has been shut down for over a week to let other lines move forward.

That was fine but my post about customers filing BBB / FTC complaints to get refunds got deleted. Apparently it's false to say that folks have done that. Our friend BFL_Josh, a good member on this forum as well, told me it was because I didn't follow guidelines.. was either a troll or posting false information. Hrm, I suppose it's all relative really. I did ask if he had any info on the backlog! Here's a snapshot of what's been said.

If he has anything to say about the backlog I'll post it!

I can assure you folks aren't monitored quite like you'd imagine, not everyone at least.

Lots of discussion about broken crypto on here, some really good stuff with legitimacy too. Some of it is a little off the mark but close.

Best advice I will give, which is what I've been taught and live by: Presume none of your encryption matters, with regard to what you store and transmit.

Also, presume what's being suggested to use as the best encryption, is a bit of a double ruse. On one hand, some folks will look at that and think "they want me to use this.. because there's a way around it.. so I won't use it and will look at something else" ... which could also be equally compromised. The old salesman's technique, park the sedan next to the sports car and tell the guy all the reasons why he doesn't want the sports car. He'll buy the sports car.

Do you anticipate the blades dropping anytime soon?

Why are you trying to sell a "clear" money maker anyhow, if it's going to break itself even within a month or two?

I'd much rather mine ship in an aluminum case, even if I was going to discard it upon receipt. The last pallet I received from across the pond had a forklift arm stab through half the boxes while on some boat, and parts were spilling out the side as they wheeled it out to my truck. You can keep your cardboard boxes all you want.

SO yeah. Aluminum box ftw.

I read that, hearing it in Cartman's voice, and absolutely lost it

^-- ZING! On point.

Or for that price you could get 2TH miner. Or 2 new Jupiters.

Every investment in a ground-floor startup in something emerging is time sensitive because your potential profits will always be behind the curve. In this case it's a piece of hardware, in MS's case it was getting the sale.


Uh, No. BFL is off the charts. KNC is a spec when you compare the two, which is why I put the comparison against all current OEM's. To say KNC is off the charts just doesn't fit, not to mention, their model is very different from BFL's.


Yes, because taking credit card payments and paypal doesn't offload any miniscule amount of burden from the consumer, and doesn't load risk onto KNC's shoulders at all. Considering no other company currently provides so many reversable payment options, the risk isn't 100% on the individuals.

Let's say I have 100 Jupiters ordered, after they're in transit I could call my business credit handler and tell them whatever I need in order to reverse the charge. They'll be more than happy to do so and give me my open credit back. Or, I could simply cancel right now. It's not nearly as risky as, say, paying in bitcoin, or a bank transfer.

While I understand what you're getting at, the picture isn't quite as goth as you're trying to paint it.


They've gone from about a 90 day window to a 30-60 day window, with the probable progression to a 15-30 day window. That's positive progress. It just sounds like you want Amazon Prime ASIC Foundary or something, but you're not going to get it. Anywhere. For quite awhile.


"hardly anyone" != "nobody"


A moment ago the complaint was the market is still stuck in a preorder phase, and now the market is moving away? KNC is the only OEM making "leaps and bounds" toward a shorter delivery window. So yeah, I agree with you there.


Could also be because most systems are becoming more expensive than ever before, and word is getting out about all of the OEM's. Not just because people don't like preorders.


Yeah I'm familiar with the post.. the context as well. Doesn't change where I'm coming from.

The way I see it, KNC's model and execution (thus far) is an exponentially better system than BFL or others have had, and I believe they'll be leading the way toward a less "preorder" system. At the same time, I'm confident someone else (putting money on Cointerra) will likely perfect the system and bring a model which is more along the lines of what you describe.