I have less than 200gh pointed to slush right now, and I'm making .25btc/day. I have no doubt he's making 1btc/day.

Catching up on the last few pages.. lots of folks talking about why they didn't release something a smidge smaller than the Neptune so folks could still 'get into the game' or simply not spend as much for a Neptune. I understand that angle, and I'm one of the folks perturbed by it.

Keep in mind, however, what I mentioned many pages back. KNC at the outset wanted to 'eventually' get into the industrial market. This is their first major step toward that. The industrial market is, afterall, where BTC mining is going to go, as it will be required based on the difficulty.

Few home-based owners will be able to mine in a worthwhile fashion beyond, say, 2014, as a guess. TH is already the new GH, and after 2014, PH will likely be the new TH. Simple math and understanding of 20nm technology/current-requirements will show that the home-based user will simply not be able to do anything, unless they spend $$$$$ to install multi-phase and many panels. IE, Industrial.

That's likely why they're shifting their flagship systems this way. It would be nice for them to offer something less, but there are other companies who are doing just that. Black Arrow is one.

If you are in tune with the difficulty, the amount of estimated network hash to be delivered over the next 6 months, and the many other factors.. you could calculate and see why 3th might only make 10-15btc in 45 days, or 20 over its lifetime.


I have never--and will never--panic sell. But way to take a wild guess.

Panic selling is silly, especially with house money. I have nothing to lose, so my scripts and manual trading methods will continue to bank on the tried-and-true buy-high-sell-low. Yes, I have losses, but my net has been 300..400% since August. In BTC.


I make .24btc/day with less than 200gh on the same pool. What are you doing wrong?

Did you find a solution  yet, or are you just letting the board sit idle?

Same with mining, you could end up with die issues, or a lightning strike, or stupid difficulty (which will be most likely).

And it's not just day trading, it's long term trading. My scripts waited a week before anything was triggered. There were some small losses, and then cha-chink-cha-chink. 50% gain, 10% gain, 30% gain. Back to sit and wait. Play with the house money, that's what I'm doing, and skim off some of the profit.

Not a HFT here, more of a hawk.

I mine, I B&H, I trade. Do what I can like everyone else. There's no single guaranteed method for anyone. Just pointing out there /are/ alternatives to simply tossing coin at something and hoping for the best.

I'll log in later and look at which settings it was using at the time.

Part of the issue is, you can't backtest simply based on a custom time period (bitcoinwisdom will kindof let you do this). So you may not be able to view the profitability for a week just by plugging them in. I told Pablo a month ago he needs to implement this ability, so you can examine swings without having to wait a week to use the 'last week' backtest.

One of the reasons they don't use a custom timeframe is that this bot is a long-term bot--but it would be helpful to specify custom timeframes anyhow, to learn from swings.

I use bitcoinwisdom and some of my own excel spreadsheets to figure out settings I like.

I do remember they were pretty sharp settings though, I believe I had one of the triggers set to 3.8 or even higher, to catch actual dives and ignore the HFT noise.

Buy the same amount in BTC, and hold it, and/or trade with it. I made 30% BTC inrease over the past few days via trading.

Example...If you spend 18btc on a neptune, and let's say in a perfect world it turns out a total of 25, you've made 39%. And that's 3-6 months after my recent 30% increase. Likely, I will make more increases over time.

So yeah, the alternative is to do what I did, and be making profit.. today. I have no doubt the Neptune will be stupid powerful.. like connect it to a 3 phase outlet and it'll chug along at 6TH or something.. but with a sharp eye, you could take the same investment and do similar--if not better. The Neptune is just a lot easier.. plug it in and let it chug.

Well, plenty of mercury's on ebay

But yeah lmk. I could put it to good use.

Ah, no I didn't have the tdp on there. Will correct that.

Haven't caught up on all of this thread, but I logged into my trading server to see how things went during the pop today. On BTCE I made 50% profit, and on GOX I made 10% profit.

Color me happy lol. It offset some of the small losses on Friday.

Figures are in BTC, not fiat, fwiw.

90 days of scrypt mining, those gpu's aren't going to last forever. I'd say $60, maybe $70/card. Interested?

I'd be interested in just the cards, specifically the 79xx's. LMK price.

It's not just a haters situation when many people were plagued by the same issue, and only one of them got resolution. I believe that's the point some folks were making.

Phoenix1969

I shoved some machines over there and got nothing but rejects and 'share above difficulty' errors. Only tag pool to give me that since switching back. Any idea what's going on there? It's like it couldn't compensate for the speed.

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Just pointing out 20000 a month isn't a lot. Nor is 25k a day on an assembly line. Perspective. 

That's not a lot really. Less than a thousand a day. Cointerra has multiple automated assembly lines, whenever they come online they could do 25k a day.

Lol I think the same thing, but knc is doing it to themselves. They could've prepped for on hand and fast delivery, but they focused on future preorder.

I'm upset they promised modules to Mercury and Saturn owners, and then claimed they couldn't figure out how to manage that on their store front end. Which is total bs.  Then they basically gave the modules to Jupiter owners. That's probably my main gripe regarding promises.