A video of him trying to fake carving some of that obviously laser engraved insanely intricate and precise stuff with a giant honkin' wood turning tool would be priceless.

I will admit it, I am not really Paul Revere, although I do own at least two lanterns, so maybe I actually am. LMFAO. I don't know how this rating stuff works, but there is some crazy ass shit on TerraHashes listing. I don't know what to make of it really.

LOL. You have fun doing whatever it is you think you are doing here. To have committed a scam I would have at the very least tried to sell something, so I think something may be amiss here. But hey, enjoy your lunacy my friend.

P.S: I really got a kick out of you questioning me being a machinist and woodworker. Thank you for the ego boost, my friend, I am glad you think that is a really brag worthy title. As if I was claiming to be a 6'6" body building billionaire and Ex SEAL & Geen Beret turned CIA agent or such, nope.  LOL. Damned funny.

I would add Quit to the list. Ya never know. People who are seeing the shit train heading GAWs way might be smart enough to get out of the way. Also, when I looked at the pictures of him and Josh in the warehouse with a couple racks of non-operating machines he looked like he did not like it one bit. I have hired and fired a lot of people over the years, and have gotten relatively good at gauging people, and Joe looked like he did not want to be faking those pictures of a supposedly operating mining operation one bit. Josh was all cocky-smirking, and Joe looked like he was lying to his Grandma.  Just my opinion. For all we know he simply has a new title like " The Grand Knight Controller of Prime Paycoin Zen" or something else GAWish.....

Nobody gives a rats ass about the weak cub scout skill level bong and dildo turnings dude. He claimed to be hand carving the insanely intricate and precise laser engravings which are completely impossible to carve by hand. This is what he was charging crazy prices for, not the lame ass dildo and bong turnings. That is the "big deal".  

It is worth exactly what someone will pay for it. The issue being raised here is the claim that these pieces are insanely intricately hand carved pieces of art, which they are not. Cool? Yes. Neat laser engravings. Hand carved as claimed? NO.

Edit to add:


Most of the experience I have with wood turning is with duplicator lathes. I am talking about old school ones that follow a 2D (hardboard/lexan/aliminum) pattern. Even so, gauging by the turned items I have seen from WC thus far I would say that I have a lot more experience at hand turning than he does. The bongs do look fine, but they are just random shapes. Making a specific technical profile by hand is a whole different story, as you can see in the complete fail of the "pleasure rings" in the wooden dildo. It looks like something a kid would make real quick while the teacher wasn't looking, to be quite honest. I think I still have a little billy club of about that quality I made exactly that way when I was in middle school.  So, getting back to the specific question: No, a duplicator lathe would not help to make some random bong shape. It would however help to make 1,000 of them exactly the same profile. I do not see any indications of a duplicator setup on or ever being on that brand neww lathe of OC's, though.

@ Terrahasher: I really don't care what you want. I am afraid you will have to find another monkey to jump up and down for you. Uhm Kay?

P.S: All I am doing in this thread is pointing out that the claims by WoodColloector that his pieces are hand carved are not that at all. If you want to argue about that , by all means. Go right ahead. Hell, I think you should even pay exorbitant prices to buy some.

Sort of. I would consider this bong to be "hand worked". I would not call it "hand carved". That is a very specific thing, meaning you are taking hand chisels or scorps. etc. and carving the wood by hand. The "hand carvings" WoodCollector is charging big BTC for are definitely laser work. Turning some random shape on a lathe is not at all that hard, either. Making 4 legs for a table by hand on a lathe and having them all match exactly? That is a quite bit harder and takes some practice and skill. I went to school for and worked as a machinist , by the way. I worked Tool&Die for years, mostly making prototype pieces for GM. I minored in industrial woodworking, so I know how to set up and run real industrial woodworking machinery. I ran a production woodworking outfit for some years, and have since turned to homebuilding.
This is a card for when I had a shop in Golden, CO, ~25 years ago.

Would your Granpa be impressed with this precision dildo?

LMFAO! I thought the quips about dildos were just facetious, but now I see they were actuaally real. Hey look, hey even managed to get the spacing of the "pleasure grooves" almost sort of kind of close. This is one time that using the phrase "fucking ridiculous" is an exact term!

P.S: If your granpa thinks this dildo is quality lathework he does not know what the fuck he is talking about. This looks like it was made by your average 9th grader in woodshop. It is a complete joke.

Apparently you have to go to the "artists mecca" of Lake Havasu City to get a glimpse of his fine work. The "gallery" is probably in the third trailer on the left hand side of the street. The one with lots of crappy whirlygigs in the front lawn.  

Update: I scrolled through WoodCollecters posts and found this:



It is a Grizzly lathe. Piece of shit $600 unit. Nailed it the first guess from the little pic on the first page of this thread. ( I actually DO know about this stuff) Brand new even. Even the turning tools all look nice and new and pretty. Looks like he has figured out how to turn a weird looking bong and a couple flat discs to laser burn on thus far.

The issue is not whether you have had issues with making deals with WC, or whether or not he has $100k worth of equipment, or whether you spent a ridiculous amount of money for supposedly hand carved pieces. The issue is whether or not he is using a $10 chisel to do intricate handcarvings for which he is charging exorbitant amounts. The answer to that question is : NO, he is not hand carving that shit. 

P.S: The equipment I saw in the few pics posted was not anywhere near 100k worth of machinery. All I see is a cheap ass Chinese lathe (Grizzly? Harbor Freight?) and a fucking dremel. Somewhere is the Pièce de résistance and source of his "craftsmanship", a laser engraver. Gauging by the striations left by the unit when cutting away open relief areas I bet even that is a piece of shit ~25 watt unit worth maybe $1,000.

Amazing. I happen to be a woodworker of 40+ years myself (yes, I really am that old) and I contacted WoodCollecter just a couple days ago to see if he was interested in buying some Ironwood, although I never looked at his work. Now i see this and my mind is completely boggled. I did not read every post here, but I can affirm the opinion of a few I saw that have said that the intricate carving in question is done with a laser. I am 100% sure about it. NO doubt, case closed. What amazes me is not that he is using a laser etcher, but that he is denying it, especially at this point. I do have to say that the overall level of craftsmanship in the pieces I have seen pictures here is not impressive (wonky ass BTC cutouts, etc.), but the laser work is super cool. Should have been honest with your customers.

You can clearly see the line by line marks left on this piece that are definitely, without a doubt, with 100% certainty left by a laser engraver exactly the same as a printer does:



WHY? Why is it necessary to lie to people?
That is actually only a rhetorical question, because the prices WC is getting for "hand carved" pieces is why- duh. The stuff WC is making is cool, but what ever happened to being honest? Guess we can add WoodCollecter's name to the long list of BTC scammers. What a shame. Greed. It is a sickness. Instead of making great money making neato laser engraved items he has to play people for fucking fools and say that he is carving that shit by hand so he can charge Uber Craftsman prices. Disgusted.

Brilliant insight. However, I must point out one flaw in your logic. My beloved United States of America is now completely run by stinking criminals at every level of government. That fact, along with rampant incompetence, might be enough to let these scammers walk.

It's a Hypercube disguised as a thread! I thought I smelled the dirty hand of the occult overlords at work!

I am afraid you have lost me here, old chap.

I guess the fictional stories I am outlining based on this GAWdawful stockpile of juicy material will not be on your bookshelf then.  However, if this story plays out the way that logic, math, and history say it likely will and there is an arrest/suicide/murder involved, then the actual true story might make for a salable made for TV movie and you can catch it after Ow My Balls when you are done Batin'!