James Brown approves this thread as Mother Popcorn worthy:


Can you confirm that H. Joshua Garza was/is dumping Paycoin on exchanges?

Somebody asking fairly tough questions on Paycointalk. This seems to be the guy who basically forced the release of the "hack" txids, although I can say that in a fairly brief search I spotted more transactions occurring in this same time period on the same "hacked" wallets and using the same amounts, etc. that were not listed in the "hack" txids.


http://talk.paycoin.com/discussion/436/paycoin-foundation-hack/p1#Comment_5187
Arcive: https://archive.today/AN5LQ

What this Diocletian member does not seem to know is where the "stolen" coins went after they left various TeamPaycoin members' wallets. I suspect he might be even more upset if he saw that the coins looped around and went back to Paycoin.com addresses (some staying, some leaving), and also in and out of GAW controlled wallets.  Did the "hackers" have control of those as well???   There is also the small detail of Sciborg flat out lying about all the stolen coins being replaced, as a quick search will reveal that hasn't happened, although I am sure they will get around to topping off their own wallets that got "hacked" with foundation coins Soon™.

They managed to get a bunch of Paycoins locked up for over a week due to a "hack" , which allowed Josh&Co to dump into the market without competition for another week. WIN!

There is the "minor" issue of where the supposedly stolen Paycoins went after they were taken though. Some even went in and out of GAW(Team Paycoin) controlled addresses as late as this morning.

This guys legal acumen is absolutely superb! By his logic, you can walk into a bank and wheel out as much cash as you like, *as long as you say that you announce that it is something other than theft, therefore it is what you say it is, thereby making something illegal quite legal. Brilliant! I wish I had thought of that , why I could be running the whole planet by now!

Edit to add: Josh&Co are hungry today:


How far will it slide? They have gobbled up some pretty huge Buy Bid walls. If they take that one @ .00217 there is weak support below that. But, then again, there is basically nothing as far as Sell blockage to drive the price back up above .0023.

Indeed, I hit beer thirty early today. Meant to pour some concrete (shower pan) but got ready too late to start today. Here is some more humor related to this "helpvicvelcro" character. Apparently, the $180,000 legal battle with the Feds over him advertising on currency has taken it's toll on him, and he is now reduced to laser-engraving nintendo thumb pads, pencils and tags for guitar amps and such (For Paycoins, no less ):
https://hashtalk.org/topic/34728/would-like-to-accept-paycoin-for-laser-work
Archive: https://archive.today/p0uOP



I had no idea Josh played guitar. Great tag you made for his amp there, my good man!


As I was typing this my chart alarm went off. There was a big Buy Bid wall @ .00231 all day today, and those dumping from their endless supply kept trying to draw it up over and over, with no takers, and finally just scooped it up.  No Sell blockage to prevent a low volume pump back up above .0023, near .0024 though, so the price may cling here overnight.

Amazing, and apparently futile to try to reach these folks.


Let's see, Einstein. Maybe the Gubment has SmArT PeOple who when tasked to find out who is marking bills with Paycoin.com that got kicked out in the sort at the bank, they will have the brains to go to Paycoin.com on the bills and will see the identical thread there where the person is announcing he is doing it? I know, to you Hashtalkers this seems like some real Columbo level investigative work, but I bet the silly old U.S. Federal Government just might have someone on the payroll with the smarts to be able to enter Paycoin.com into their browser and hit "enter".

P.S: The cherry on top of that scenario is that any Paycoin related search will most likely pop this thread up first.

Edit to add: I see this idiot on HT is STILL going on about how he took on the Big Bad U.S. Federal Gubment about advertising on their currency and WON! And, this case only cost him $180,000!! Oh, Man, my eyes are watering laughing at this lying idiot. Be strong subseaguru, you can withstand his attempt to bury you in idiocy!

Thread archive: https://archive.today/eeQaH

And if he has lent Animos BTC on BTCjam, why is he not using the BCT account associated with the loan?

Fake account trying to smear someone trying to expose the GAW scam is Fake.

I swear the entire group on Hashtalk could not collectively think their way out of a paper bag.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/35247/paycoin-dollar-stamp/43

Even when the actual law saying it is illegal to advertise on currency in any way is RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM, they still can not figure it out.  

Edit to add: I see the braintrust is STILL fighting this. Is that you subseaguru pointing out that advertising on money is illegal? (don't want to blow your cover if it is).  Gotta LOVE the moron saying he WON a court case where he was advertising on dollar bills! LMFAO!! Ya, dude- so there you were, facing the full might of the U.S. Federal Government, with scary Secret Service guys staring at you from the other bench, and YOU showed them fucking chumps what is up!
"I WILL advertise on U.S. Currency, so F all of you and your stupid laws, uhmkay? Buh Byes!"
I really could not make this fucking idiocy and deep, DEEP, delusional behavior up if I tried.

Yes, otherwise stores would stamp ads on every bill and send them along, etc. Basically, every bill in circulation would have "Joe's Plumbing 555-1234" or "Walmart, Your personal sewer pipe of cheap shit from China" or some such ad stamped on it by the end of the week.

A little humor from the Hashtalkers. Someone copy pasted the list of GAW/Paycoin lies posted on GH, and it lasted a whole 16 minutes!


Archive: https://archive.today/C7vOb

I thought that exchanges had a single , or maybe few, wallets for each coin, and then deposit addresses are generated from that wallet. Here is a(the?) Paycoin Cryptsy wallet:

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/wallet.dws?29868.htm

Here is the address where the "stolen" 1,000 XPY is still sitting. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?78515.htm it is #20 in the address list for that Cryptsy wallet.

It says there are ~13,000 addresses for this wallet, with only 32 currently having >0 XPY in them. Like I said , I *think* a new address is generated for the main Cryptsy wallet for each account, and more if that account user requests new ones. How the deposits are moved to the main (pooled) addresses is unclear to me.

I am a bit unsure of exactly how exchanges, Cryptsy in particular does this. I know for sure that they generate a real unique Blockchain address for each account's deposits for each coin, so you can see deposits to an account. However, you can generate new addresses at will, so an account may have many deposit addresses associated with it. I *think* any deposit will remain in the unique address until the account holder opens up the exchange for that particular coin, perhaps even requiring placing an order, before the coins are moved into the pooled coins in the main Cryptsy account, meaning that whoever deposited that 1,000 XPY has not tried to move them yet. I could of course be wrong about this, if someone has some XPY to deposit and check this we would know for sure.

If you trace the first deposit in Santa's Wallet (~3,600XPY ) backwards it goes to this group of 2,000,000 from the premine :

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?9619.htm

That group of ~3,600 is combined from several shuffle groups. I traced two of them back to this premine output, the trail them remaining intact the whole way. You are quite free to start clicking and do it yourself, please do. It only went through maybe ~200 Shuffle/Siphon to accumulators or straight to exchange cycles.

Santa's Wallet has received siphoning from shuffles ever since then as well, but has not synched since 12-28. I suspect this is maybe one of Josh's private stashes due to how and where the transactions in and out of it have occurred, but please, formulate your own ideas.

Edit to add: If you want to follow backwards from Santa's Wallet, here is where I started:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?95348.htm
which came from here:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?P9GhLjB4Ef9Gqu4skEeEGH35cPFFGEADzn.htm
in this transaction:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?89636.htm
If you continue to follow that parent group of ~15,000XPY backwards it remains intact (being siphoned from many, many, dozens of times) all the way back to the Premine.

And that is not including the coins that came straight from the Pre-Mine and went to exchanges. I am rather busy today, but I traced back a couple of transactions from the Paycoin.com "hack", and I can say for sure that the outputs are linked to some of the same wallets associated with GAW/Josh and the shuffling of XPY on a massive scale, and also some of the "stolen" coins go straight back to some of the largest addresses in the TeamPaycoin/Paycoin.com wallet. This evening I will try to put something together, but for now here is some of what I found in a quick trace of the "hack" transactions.
This is the first txid in the list.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?fcbb640f4a65476bd1794b613658fc12a5428e23676e6032cbdc8207d02b9279.htm
going forward it goes in and out of this wallet. This looks like bot action, and I will get to that other amount that went in and out after this...
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PDEYQFCKCG8HaptW5P6kHAu2Nk8JKmZW4U.htm
from which this group of 222 leaves in this transaction and is combined with 249 XPY taken from Cryptsy.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?466510.htm
That group then lands in this old and well used address:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJDDaTtn5T23x84Uik4brAgfXUfy2NygEE.htm
That address directly received (after the usual shuffle) coins directly taken from the Pre-mine. However, back to this group of "stolen" XPY, they get combined with some other "stolen" coins IN this address, and leave in this transaction:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?471787.htm
Where 1,000 are deposited into Cryptsy, and have not moved, and the other ~800 are sitting in this wallet here:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PB1mqKFEBjxsoCnbod6dh62vmLn8ob5Xm1.htm

OK, so we know these "stolen" XPY went into and out of a wallet associated with the premine and with the paycoin shuffle that has been going on from day 1. Now, lets look at that group of 199 "stolen" coins, which are associated with this listed txid from the "hack". https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?466257.htm  and bounce through the same shuffle address as the group of 222 traced before, this one:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PDEYQFCKCG8HaptW5P6kHAu2Nk8JKmZW4U.htm
Following the group of 199 XPY forward we leave in this tx:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?467447.htm
Where they combine with other "stolen" coins, some bouncing through a Cryptsy account. They then land as a group of 621 XPY in this address:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PSb9znGtdYkZqcTcNg1i8ycadiRHYCDNg6.htm
This address is back in the Paycoin.com wallet, and appears to be one used to distribute to individual users addresses, perhaps someone has more information on this address? It has received and sent over 116,000 XPY since 1-16-2015. Whatever it is, that group of 621 XPY then leaves this Paycoin.com address (because thieves always put the money they stole back in the same bank for a while, just to fuck with people- right?) in this tx:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?467454.htm and lands in another Paycoin.com wallet (these "thieves" are real jokers  ) here:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PJCaAXtVDXgDoBoeuFoPqwM4bQCyWChToU.htm
Where it is mixed with a small amount of XPY, and then 155 XPY leaves in this tx, the rest remaining there until now.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?481885.htm
It is combined with tiny amounts from other addresses (haven't traced)in that tx, and is now a 156.9 XPY group which goes to this address:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PGWKtKvLfAFUxvmhzHkikXwPEc93tZz6eQ.htm
Which had another wayward group of 100 XPY go in and out. Havn;t followed those, but this group of 156.9 leaves in this tx yesterday: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?482838.htm where it is split into two groups; 100 and 56. Here is the address where the group of 100 goes, and still remains:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PWG5UaTcFyVZquZRDWJ8LdjJUXbUbJSQBD.htm
I call this Santa's address, as it was created on 12-25-2014, and has received large amounts of XPY straight from the pre-mine, and has not seen any activity since 12-29 (no staking and non redeemed inputs, meaning it has not synched since then). It's current balance is 34,124.882546 XPY , ranked # 74 on the Rich List! Why did the "thieves" put the loot in this address? Who owns this? Why did they receive pre-mine? Why did the "stolen" XPY go here??? WTF?? These things all say inside job to me, I am sure someone will disagree.

To finish this little bit of sleuthing, the other 56 XPY shaved off in that transaction from which the 100 came from shuffle through this address: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PT5jJgfTHVjkgC5uRm5UUw92P56MzbYMHX.htm
leaving in this tx: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?484126.htm  They are split into two groups, one of 49 which goes directly to the 34,124 XPY address above, and the other 7 shuffling through this addy: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PQvaB9gNySbEQrYscq1k3wwhsX5co4QM2r.htm
Leaving in this tx: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?485232.htm where they are split into 2 groups (sound familiar yet?) , 5 going here
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PCucwVa23F7HZ7CXrYdBw7Ebn1rH29xutR.htm
and 2 going to the same 34.124 XPY address above.

These are either the stupidest hackers on the planet (putting 1,000 XPY in Crypsty and not touching it? Sending 800XPY to an address and leaving it? , sending stolen XPY back to where it came from, while the Paycoin.com wallets were supposedly offline, no less? Sending XPY to GAW wallets? Sending XPY to a wallet that has not synched since 12-29?) or, it was an inside job. Or of course some combination of those two things maybe.

More funnies from Paycoin.com. Bitcoin Bra trying to lead up a group buy to get themselves a fancy Prime COntroller to shit out mad Paycoins so they can be like their hero Homero and dump them into the market on suckers for fat stacks of Benji's:

The best part is the moron suggesting that Adam Matlack should be in charge of it! LMFAO! The phone taps they have on the assholes running this scam must be Far King hilarious. There is no way someone could not crack up laughing at just how absolutely gullible these douchebag idiots are when talking to a co-conspirator.

http://talk.paycoin.com/discussion/472/buying-a-prime-controller-as-a-group/p1#Comment_5153
Archive: https://archive.today/KBTYs

In other news:  The second group of "winners" in the Matrix Pyramid Scheme known as Coinstand, it seems, have been chumped, even though the hype continues (of course- it is a scam-Duh):


Ah-so. Youa promissda cheap goods fora Praycoins you bought, but wren youa trya makea purchase youa noa getta noffing. This werra knowan scam, Sucka! Wrooks rike youa gotta Praycoined!


https://hashtalk.org/topic/35280/coinstand-update/140
Archive: https://archive.today/tbJoS

This imbecile Wildfirebill is promoting stamping bills with Paycoin.com on Paycoin.com/talk now. He has taken his "investigation" a step further and has now concluded that the "U.S. Government was the first to implement the where's George Been stamp". I swear I could not make this stuff up even if I tried.


http://talk.paycoin.com/discussion/462/paycoin-stamp/p1#Comment_5062
Archive: https://archive.today/QMclE

Yes, I know, but Bitcoin is not run by a corporation. Paycoin is controlled by a corporation and stamping Paycoin.com on bills constitutes advertising. Promoting an idea by stamping it on a bill is not technically illegal (although frowned upon), but advertising definitely is.

He is running with this, and getting cheered on by GAW staff now:



Gosh, do you think the S.S. will find out the source of these stamped bills with Paycoin.com on them after it gets reported when the bills hit sorting?