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26581  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: December 09, 2016, 04:00:30 PM
The culture of handling weapons must be laid in early childhood. Teaching children to read does not preclude the necessity of learning to count. The more educated children will be, the less problems in the future.

I agree. However, the more educated the child is, if he turns out to be a crook when he grows up, the more dangerous he will be for good people. That's why good people need to go armed.

Cool
Of course you can't be afraid of weapons in the hands of a good man. Guns do not kill. Kills the person who uses the weapon. Who would think to be afraid of coming to the store with a weapon the police?

But there are bad cops all over the place. Just because they didn't do bad this time.

Cool
26582  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 09, 2016, 03:59:18 PM
I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

Cool
You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.

Nobody knows the science of cause and effect that makes man write what he writes. Cause and effect caused man to write the Bible. God directs cause and effect perfectly. So, God caused the people to write the things of the Bible that they wrote.

Cool
26583  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: December 09, 2016, 03:57:16 PM
As I do not believe in god. I think there is no god in this world.  So I am an atheist
if you think you do not believe in god, and you assume that God does not exist, that so my question is, how nature is created and who created, and how you can create, as became a man, only with sex ...? not that all thanks to the intervention of a god ...? !!
I'm sure there's a logical explanation, but God was invented to cover up their ignorance. Then religion began to cover up the desire for power. Over time, they learned the religion to make money.

The evidence and proof for the existence of God is shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
and in many places all over the Internet.

Atheism is the invented religion, invented by those who think that they can live life the ways they want, and yet not be held accountable.

Cool
You will not be able to intimidate atheists a non-existent threat of a non-existent God. Don't you understand? Atheism is not a religion! Atheism is science and anti-science is very difficult to find arguments.

Science proves God exists. Nature shows it. Atheists are so in love with their atheism, that they would rather ignore science and nature than turn to reality.

Cool
I do not agree with you. What science proved the existence of God? It's just your word is not documented. Show photo of God, and even better live. No dispute should be with the arguments otherwise it's pointless.

The science of cause and effect almost proves God all by itself. Look at the above links, right in this post. Then do a search on cause and effect. It is documented all over the place. It is basic, fundamental science.

Lots of things are invisible to us, but we know that they exist without a photo. Consider the invisible air. Does it exist, or not? No photo of the air.

If a person doesn't think about the proof, he will not be able to understand it. Think about Big Bang Theory. Is Big Bang real? Very few people understand the BB Theory without thinking about it. In the same way, think about the proof that shows that God exists if you want to understand it.

Cool
26584  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 09, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

Cool
26585  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: December 09, 2016, 03:48:06 PM
The culture of handling weapons must be laid in early childhood. Teaching children to read does not preclude the necessity of learning to count. The more educated children will be, the less problems in the future.

I agree. However, the more educated the child is, if he turns out to be a crook when he grows up, the more dangerous he will be for good people. That's why good people need to go armed.

Cool
26586  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: December 09, 2016, 03:46:30 PM
Religion gives hope to sick people is that prayer may help in recovery. This is another deception of religion. Once again convinced that religion is harmful to humans and built on deception.

Placebo effect works. Prayer causes working placebo affect to exist at times.

God listens to prayer, and very often heals in answer to prayer, and according to His will.

Some people pray but doubt. Those are the people who often are not healed.

Time and chance affect all things. This is why prayers seem to not work at times.

Prayer always works, but not always in the way that people pray for.

Cool
And what does the placebo effect religion? In addition, this effect is very limited. Cancer is not a placebo effect won't cure. How many don't use the word honey in the mouth will not be sweet

English is not your language. I don't understand what you are saying.

Prayer works because of:
1. Placebo effect;
2. God answering prayer;
3. Coincidentally sometimes.

Prayer does not work because:
1. The people praying do not believe;
2. God has other plans;
3. Time and chance work in everything to some extent.

Cool
26587  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: December 09, 2016, 03:43:02 PM
As I do not believe in god. I think there is no god in this world.  So I am an atheist
if you think you do not believe in god, and you assume that God does not exist, that so my question is, how nature is created and who created, and how you can create, as became a man, only with sex ...? not that all thanks to the intervention of a god ...? !!
I'm sure there's a logical explanation, but God was invented to cover up their ignorance. Then religion began to cover up the desire for power. Over time, they learned the religion to make money.

The evidence and proof for the existence of God is shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
and in many places all over the Internet.

Atheism is the invented religion, invented by those who think that they can live life the ways they want, and yet not be held accountable.

Cool
You will not be able to intimidate atheists a non-existent threat of a non-existent God. Don't you understand? Atheism is not a religion! Atheism is science and anti-science is very difficult to find arguments.

Science proves God exists. Nature shows it. Atheists are so in love with their atheism, that they would rather ignore science and nature than turn to reality.

Cool
26588  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 09, 2016, 03:37:58 PM

Well, thanks. God is your God, too. If you would learn that you can (and maybe have) obeyed God through the salvation that Jesus offers, you might come to understand that you don't have to be so stressed out over a little forum topic.

My perfection is in Jesus. God says so. Your perfection is in Jesus except for one little thing. You don't believe and accept it.

Turn and believe, while you still have time, so that you can join us in eternal life with God, in glory and joy.

Cool

Not my God.... no such thing!
Your God, because He holds you alive. The funny thing is, that if you don't acknowledge Him in this life, He will prove Himself to you in the judgment, but by then it will be absolutely too late for you to be saved.



Why do you keep trying to turn everyone into Zombie's? Are you a brain sucking leech?
You mentioned in a different post that you were more caring than I. Here I am, trying to save you for eternity, and all you can do is accuse me of trying to turn people into zombies. You are the zombie. Stop resisting true life.



What makes you think I am stressed? I am far from stressed.
Like standing on the cliff with your eyes closed. One more step and you are gone for good.



I am disappointed in you though.
You are soooo caring that you are disappointed in me? LOL.


You seem to be an intelligent person, however, your failure to recognize the contradictions in your own bible is quite astounding.
As I said in another post. First you go this way, then you go that. You contradict yourself all the time. Of course, when one looks into the details of your life, he can see that most of them aren't contradictions at all.

The details of the Bible show that it doesn't contradict itself at all.


You also fail to follow the commandments of your bible. I think I will take it on as a quest to get you to recognize these failings.
You simply don't accept that believing in Jesus IS following the commands of the Bible.



If there is an eternal life (which I don't believe), it will be in your version of Hell where you will be bringing the Jim Beam, Pizza and Leather Chair. I'll bring the women.


It is my loss that I am talking seriously with you, but you are joking with (and maybe trolling) me. But others may see and learn. So there will be benefit to some, through the joking that you do.

Cool
26589  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drain The Swamp on: December 09, 2016, 03:25:37 PM
He's not even president yet, it's ignorant to say something like that, even tho by looking at your previous posts, it doesn't surprise me at all.
Also, as I said before, you can have your own opinion, everyone has rights to their own opinion, but even tho if its someones own opinion it doesn't mean that it's completely stupid.

You have no idea how the government works if you have to say something like this. A President makes plans of what he is going to do prior to his inauguration. Also, for the past 50+ years, the military industrial complex has only expanded. The United States is a military empire. What makes you think it will be different if you put yet another women and Muslim hating old white guy in office?

I am sure that the policy of the United States of America will not change, but the problems in order to explain to Trump his every move. Pisses me off more. This clown can only vote, not educated people. Imagine how many people in America!!!!!

While this is basically true, the thing that is happening with Trump is, he is causing the one-worlders to have to change their strategy. This will slow them down, except if Trump makes a big blunder, that allows them to speed up in stead.

Cool
When it comes to business, Trump that it didn't bother me at all. But it comes to life is still the most influential country in the world and just world order. Mistakes here can lead to serious consequences.

Trump is one guy. If he can find the "center of the road," people from all opinions will flock to him. We just might be able to put down the one-world, slave-making order together. And hopefully without disastrous effects.

Cool
26590  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: December 09, 2016, 03:23:15 PM
My latest purchase.  A beautifully designed and manufactured weapon from the Czech Republic.   Grin

This design from 1975 is a classic.


I envy you! In my country is not allowed to purchase such weapons. Although I have an official machine gun AK-47. Nonsense of course, but in my state it is forbidden to have a gun and allowed to have a machine gun.

Guns in my own opinion guns are meet for mature mid and not for babies like almost everyone in country feel to have such but there limit to it you must be of age before you can get it at a time is for self diffidence  and self diffidence is allowed in a right way. 
Minors do not have the right weapons. What's the problem? To accustom children to the proper use of weapons from early childhood, and it is only after puberty.

The best time to teach children about guns is the same time that you teach them about reading, writing and arithmetic.

Cool
One does not exclude the other. Is the ability to read and write will protect you from criminals? The instinct of self-preservation is a basic human instinct. No life why everything else?

But one can be taught without the other being taught. You can teach kids reading, writing and arithmetic, without teaching them about guns. And, you can teach kids about guns without teaching them reading, writing and arithmetic. Teach them all of it.

Cool
26591  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: December 09, 2016, 03:17:30 PM
Religion gives hope to sick people is that prayer may help in recovery. This is another deception of religion. Once again convinced that religion is harmful to humans and built on deception.

Placebo effect works. Prayer causes working placebo affect to exist at times.

God listens to prayer, and very often heals in answer to prayer, and according to His will.

Some people pray but doubt. Those are the people who often are not healed.

Time and chance affect all things. This is why prayers seem to not work at times.

Prayer always works, but not always in the way that people pray for.

Cool
26592  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: December 09, 2016, 03:12:29 PM
As I do not believe in god. I think there is no god in this world.  So I am an atheist
if you think you do not believe in god, and you assume that God does not exist, that so my question is, how nature is created and who created, and how you can create, as became a man, only with sex ...? not that all thanks to the intervention of a god ...? !!
I'm sure there's a logical explanation, but God was invented to cover up their ignorance. Then religion began to cover up the desire for power. Over time, they learned the religion to make money.

The evidence and proof for the existence of God is shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
and in many places all over the Internet.

Atheism is the invented religion, invented by those who think that they can live life the ways they want, and yet not be held accountable.

Cool
26593  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drain The Swamp on: December 09, 2016, 03:08:45 PM
He's not even president yet, it's ignorant to say something like that, even tho by looking at your previous posts, it doesn't surprise me at all.
Also, as I said before, you can have your own opinion, everyone has rights to their own opinion, but even tho if its someones own opinion it doesn't mean that it's completely stupid.

You have no idea how the government works if you have to say something like this. A President makes plans of what he is going to do prior to his inauguration. Also, for the past 50+ years, the military industrial complex has only expanded. The United States is a military empire. What makes you think it will be different if you put yet another women and Muslim hating old white guy in office?

I am sure that the policy of the United States of America will not change, but the problems in order to explain to Trump his every move. Pisses me off more. This clown can only vote, not educated people. Imagine how many people in America!!!!!

While this is basically true, the thing that is happening with Trump is, he is causing the one-worlders to have to change their strategy. This will slow them down, except if Trump makes a big blunder, that allows them to speed up in stead.

Cool
26594  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: December 09, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
My latest purchase.  A beautifully designed and manufactured weapon from the Czech Republic.   Grin

This design from 1975 is a classic.


I envy you! In my country is not allowed to purchase such weapons. Although I have an official machine gun AK-47. Nonsense of course, but in my state it is forbidden to have a gun and allowed to have a machine gun.

Guns in my own opinion guns are meet for mature mid and not for babies like almost everyone in country feel to have such but there limit to it you must be of age before you can get it at a time is for self diffidence  and self diffidence is allowed in a right way. 
Minors do not have the right weapons. What's the problem? To accustom children to the proper use of weapons from early childhood, and it is only after puberty.

The best time to teach children about guns is the same time that you teach them about reading, writing and arithmetic.

Cool
26595  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 09, 2016, 03:03:03 PM
I'm not an Atheist myself. I have friends who are, and they said to me that they think religion is a waste of time, thinks have happened in their life and they question where was god when I needed help the most.

Remind your friends that atheism is a religion. Search the Internet for people and websites who explain why and how.

Cool
Atheism cannot be a religion. On the contrary it is the denial of all religions. Atheists don't believe in fairytales and require proof for any judgment. While there is no evidence and there is no God.

Atheism is a religious denial of religion. Being a RELIGIOUS denial, it becomes a religion, and all the more so when it is thought about and spoken about by the atheist. Atheists who think and speak about atheism are forming dogmas about it in their lives. Atheism IS DEFINITELY a religion.

In all the controversy in websites, between atheism as a religion and atheism not being a religion, those sites that show atheism is a religion, do it by showing the similarities between atheism and other religions. Those who try to explain that atheism is NOT a religion, usually get away from the point, and start condemning the idea that God exists, rather than showing how atheism is not a religion. Atheists that do this are the most religious of all atheists, because they are adding dogmas to their simple religion.

Cool
26596  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 09, 2016, 02:53:02 PM

Atheists are a wishy-washy group of moronic-like people. Why? People are religious creatures. You can see this by noting all the religions in the world. When atheists attempt to get away from religion, all they do is form a religion of non-religion for themselves. Doing this shows that they are bordering on self-destruction.

God operates this world through freedom for the people. That's why He doesn't force anyone to believe anything. Rather, He hopes they will look at the evidence, and believe according to it.

This is why He doesn't push atheists much at all, as they live in the stupidity of their atheism. A push might cause them to self-destruct all the way. God wants them to be saved.

Cool

How very interesting that you choose to make statements based on something which you know nothing about. As you have stated you are a self proclaimed man of god I do not believe you have the ability to see the reasons why people chose to be an atheist. That is exactly what it is..... a choice. We choose to believe what we see and not believe in fairy tales.

You represent everything about religion I hate. You are self righteous, opinionated and suffer from delusion. You choose to make grand statements about a fairy tale character and expect everyone to believe it. Yet when others choose a different path,  you call them moronic and stupid.

Please remember BADecker that your God called you Stupid. Not some pleb who tries to act holier than thou and cannot see the reality when it slaps him in the face.

Okay.

Certainly you are welcome to your opinions, and welcome to continue to ovoid logic and reality.

Cool

Thank you!

I am not "avoiding" anything. It is I who believe you are avoiding logic and certainly reality.

But you are avoiding logic, because I can give and have given examples of why my logic makes sense. You don't really have the examples, but only say that you are acting logically.

Cool

An example..... hmmm let me think.....

Is it the poor altar boy who is continuously raped by the priest, only to spend each night asking for forgiveness from your god and wanting to know what atrocious thing he has done to receive such atrocity? Or is it the poor starving children of third world countries who cry each night for food the next day..... only to receive none?

Your answer will be the Millionaire evangelist who receives money from suckers to pay for his tax free livelihood..... all because he prayed to your god.

I suggest you listen to the words of this song for your answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZeWPScnolo


All right. So you bring up a few of the many injustices and evils being done around the world. What's the point of your doing so? We can sit around all day long and write lists upon lists of evil things that are being done in this world. Are you trying to say that I do or condone them? What is your logic that you are giving example of? What's your point? I think you are avoiding the subject... how I follow the Word of God.

Cool

You asked me to provide examples of why my logic as an atheist makes sense. I did.... and you change it to how you follow the word of your god. How delusional are you? Not to alarm you but the world does not revolve around you.... nor does it revolve around your religion. Most people choose to grow up and we stop believing in fairy tales. Others choose not to and call themselves servants of god.

Bottom line..... you continue to only see the version of your holy book which meets your needs. You still twist the words to meet your own agenda. I do not need a fantasy book to tell me that i need to be a good person.... and i certainly do not need a threat of "hell" to keep me in line and following a set agenda. I am intelligent enough to make my own choices for myself.

As long as you keep running around the logic and explanations I give, you can possibly extend our conversation for a long time. But you absolutely know that you have no proper way to answer the things that I say.

Cool

Logic...... lets look at logic.

Your bible is so full of contradictions yet you continue to believe. The logic of this is that when you follow it.... you fail. Therefore, you are permanently a loser.

In the first place, what are you doing looking in my Bible? If you really want to look in a Bible, get your own. So, how do you know what is in my Bible unless you have looked?

Consider yourself. If a person happened to glimpse your life, he would see your contradictions in life. They are all over the place. First you walk into the kitchen, then you walk out of the kitchen. Then you walk into the living room. Then you walk out of the living room. Then you walk back into the kitchen and get a drink of water. Then you walk out of the kitchen into the bathroom and relieve yourself of some water. Then you walk out of the bathroom. Make up your mind. Quit contradicting yourself all over the place.

Of course, if a person took enough time to see the reasons why you were making apparent contradictions throughout your life, he would see that there were non-contradictory reasons why you did all these things. Same with the Bible. Things might look like contradictions, but if you don't examine them in detail, you are only messing up your own thinking about the Bible.

Since you have such a bad attitude regarding the Bible, start with something you can understand... science and nature and the existence of God. Science and nature show and prove that God exists as shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
In addition, you can search the Internet for all kinds of other evidence and proof.

Then once you realize that God exists, you can get out of that stupid, self-contradictory, atheist religion, and really start to live.

Cool

I love it how you link passages to yourself. You do this all the time and it never stops to amuse me!
What does this even mean?



I fear you are starting to become annoyed.
What can I say, but, thanks, for your warm thoughts regarding my well being... in that you fear for me.


It is strange that you make references to Your bible being the word of your god and that all his commands should be followed. Then when I point out the contradictions you try to turn this on me and my life.
It is even stranger that when I explain how the things you call contradictions aren't contradictions, you seem to completely ignore what I say, when all you have to do is explain why you think my explanations are wrong. Why can't you, or won't you, get into the nitty gritty details of stating why you think something I explain is wrong? Methinks that you can't.


Personally, I am happy for you to join me in my life or not.... your choice.
Isn't that what we are doing in the forum here, even if it is a rather simple joining?


I am not saying my life is any better or worse than yours.... it is just different. You are the one who tries to "enlighten" the rest of us with your life being so wonderful because you follow your god.
Why do you even say this? I never said my life is so wonderful. You resort to writing things about me without anything to back them up. Yet, when I back up the things that I say with a readily available preponderance of proof and evidence, you simply run past it as though it didn't exist. You show your weakness this way. You have no proof, and little evidence, yet you want to twist things around, just like a troll.


This is the basis of your religion.... either with or against and you will do whatever you can to highlight your way of life as being best when all I do is point out the fallacy of it.
What does this mean? You can't even write things that make sense.

Since I have never highlighted my life as being best, you couldn't have pointed out any fallacy regarding it. Rather, you are simply trying to avoid the fact that there is nothing that you have that can contradict the proof and evidence that God exists.

Why are you so against the truth? Why would you rather attempt to live your life in ways that won't work? Are you so desirous of death, but such a suicide chicken, that you have to get death in any way that you can? So you do it by turning against the God Who maintains your life?

Look at the joys that exist in your life (even though there are troubles and pains as well). God offers you the joys without the pains... in the next life. Turn to God and live.



Ironic that an Atheist like me has more of a caring nature than a "holier than thou" self proclaimed expert on religion like yourself.
Again, a statement without evidence. And, a statement that is designed to avoid the points, that God exists, and that Bible obedience is accomplished by believing in Jesus.



I suggest you try the life of an atheist and embrace the real world we live in.... not the fantasy world created by others to scare the masses into following some basic fairy tale.

Only people who don't realize that atheism is a religion of non-religion might become atheists. Because people are religious beings, atheism is a religion of self destruction. I understand why you would suggest that someone become an atheist. Misery loves company.

Cool
26597  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: December 09, 2016, 02:20:29 PM
I'm not an Atheist myself. I have friends who are, and they said to me that they think religion is a waste of time, thinks have happened in their life and they question where was god when I needed help the most.

Remind your friends that atheism is a religion. Search the Internet for people and websites who explain why and how.

Cool
26598  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 09, 2016, 03:23:01 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1707949.msg17125531#msg17125531

Cool
26599  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 09, 2016, 03:22:10 AM
The Word of God is above scientific text.

LOL. Too funny. The claim that a fictional text is above science.

Science has fiction (science theory). The Bible doesn't. God made all science. Man makes science (theory) fiction.

Cool
26600  Other / Archival / Re: I'm really leaving the U.S. for a 3rd world country because of politics on: December 09, 2016, 03:18:47 AM
When they finally get some nations on Mars, these will be the 3rd world nations.

Earth = world 1.
Moon = world 2.
Mars = world 3.

Third-world nations.

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