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2661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 07:59:44 AM
Gambling means risk because your money is at stake and in a way it is a synonym of risk so cant say any safe methods to gambler,because there arent any.Yes but there are ways to limit your losses if you have a good self control in yourself and you are not a greedy person otherwise gambling can never be safe.
I wish every gambler can do that, but in reality it is really hard to do self control and that is more worst when you are into gambling for money, with that you will really chase bets because you do not want to stop gambling while having a losing record.

Real gambler does not easily accept defeat and we will only accept when we lose everything, we never loss hope until the end.

Real/professional gamblers doesn't get affected with few loses because they knew it from the very start that they will encounter several loses. They don't usually chase when they lose many sessions already - they just play according to their pre-planned bets and if they win good and if not, play again on a new session the other time.
2662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 03, 2016, 07:57:30 AM
Gambling is very fun because people love to play games is part of who we are and also people like to take risks too so when you combine booth you have an explosive combination.
Not at all times gambling is fun ,when someone ends with a loss amount on his profit he/she will definetly not having a fun .yes it is the nature of peoples loving of playing games but not all people wants to take risk especially if theres a money involved.

I also think there is money involved than it's not possible to have fun there with gambling, if we lost than it made situation worse and suck, gambling has lot of attraction because there is chance to make money without doing hard work and that is the reason people think like this.
Many people said that they play gambling just for fun only and in that i don't believe . Gambling is the fastest way to earn money or double  money without getting tired at all so its a yes that many of the people tend to gamble are the ones who does not work and dont wan to get tired in the job.

Maybe. If they gamble regularly, then chances are that they have no other work and just gamble all day. They may already have enough money with them or is lacking of it that is why they are gambling. The most pity is the one with lack of money and is hoping to get some by gambling. Whether if they are just playing for fun or not, it is still not good - they better of looking for job than wasting more time gambling.
2663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 07:52:47 AM
There are girls ! The pretty ones that stand behind the tables and get you to bet all of your money. XP lol Dont fall for it ! Its a trap eek ! They do that because it's mostly men who gamble. But its not uncommon to see women. There is nothing abnormal about hearing about women gambling. There lots.

Most of the time gamblers are men... When you see a woman I think its' not common and I think the ratio would be one is to many... There are girls of course, but seeing them regularly gambling and betting, I think there is something in them that's different in a normal woman...  Smiley It's true that it is uncomfortable betting along with girls specially if they are looking for special treatment...  Smiley


Because it is not good to see a woman gambling, in the eyes of the public that is not acceptable because they know and experience that gambling does not give a good result of those people who are addicted in gambling, I cannot imagine what a woman could do if she can be addicted with gambling.
just like drugs they can sell their body to get some money to gamble thats the saddest truth.
That was the saddest thing to know .i have watch a true to life story a girl who is addicted on gambling and she do that sells her body after he loss all things that she have .
Drugs is even more addicting than gambling you can control and it is easy to cure gambling addiction than drugs also if you're on drugs you can do all things that you don't want ,you see real things into other things something like that .

Of course this is an extreme case scenario. Not all girls are addicted to gambling and so with men. I see it all being equal - I have meet on chat some girls who are betting and they are just doing it to kill time - they are not really addicted to it. Some are betting small amounts while waiting for their kids at school and some are house mom where as I've said are playing for entertainment and to ease the boredom at home.
Women are more interested in card games I guess, in my place I have seen women playing card games and they do not have an idea of online games, I think they are just playing that mostly for fun rather than the money, just to socialize with friends.

Well, this I guess this may be a cultural difference then. If they have no idea about online gambling, chances are they may have no best access to high-speed internet connection. What I was talking was girls that I meet on online casino chat rooms - at this very moment, you can find them in major online dice games.
2664  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: October 03, 2016, 07:42:27 AM
5BTC will convert in the real currency of my country.
 2.5 BTC will invest on trusted site, person , or company.
 2.5 BTC will keep it for trading.

Nice budgeting there. With the 2.5 bitcoins for trading, I believe you will surely profit big in cryptocurrency trading when you know what you are doing. I have some winning trades and some losing also but overall, I win than losing. I just buy low and sell high to cryptocurrencies that are listed in margin trading.

By the way, I wonder what will you do with your 5 bitcoins that you will exchange in the fiat money of your country?
2665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 03, 2016, 07:20:11 AM
there are no easy ways to make profit from gambling to be honest, i think that you will never make money for a living out of it
well in some cases they can make money for a living those who's expert and knows how to manage bankroll and not greedy to earn a lot they can make some earnings that can sustain their needs but that percentage is not even 5% of gamblers for sure because most of us are greedy so more loses than winnings for sure.
If you are greedy, then you forget about profit. Because your greediness will never let you to make a profit in gambling. If you have control on your bankroll, then you can try in the different method you have a chance to make a profit in gambling. According to me play safe bets. In sports betting play low odds bets, you have 90% chance to win your bet.

Greed is the number one reason among others, that a gambler loses his/her session. Greed will let you blindly bet any amount because you are after more profit than you have to. I mean, all of us want big profit - but we ahve to be realistic enough and always reminds ourselves that there is a house edge advantage of the casino we are playing.
big profits against small one maybe we to assess little earnings after you quit then enjoy against big earnings but continue and to be loss back again, greedy person always forget about self control thats why theres always or many gamblers loses in the long run.
The thing is we always seek for a bigger profit in gambling, we win sometimes but due to our greediness we will lose in the end. So although we know how to win but due to our greediness gambling become more hard for us to win.

Greediness is the good ally of casino - whether in online or offline casinos. When we are playing, we must at all times remind ourselves that we are already at a disadvantage situation due to casino house edge. With that in mind, whenever we win some, we will guard ourselves from further losing by cashing it out already.
2666  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: October 03, 2016, 07:16:16 AM
People ? NO! and if they are actually learn all the possible things bitcoin can do to their lives , they will like it more than you do! easy access , easy account, easy transaction ( hihi easy scam lol ) ..
 But if you talking about company , bank , economies maybe some of them HATE BITCOINS A LOT.
Maybe some people hate bitcoin because they are not get the advantage about bitcoin, if they know more detail capital market and prospect I sure they will like bitcoin
I don't get where you are getting  banks, "economist", corporations hate bitcoin. I understand you used the word "some" just to play itself or you really don't know what you are talking about. A company  don't hate anything even competition, when they see competition they don't hate it in fact they always see an opportunity to improve. Improving = more profit.

I agree that big companies don't like competition - in fact, competition is a fact that your certain niche is profitable that is why there are many people jumping in. Now, if the company is in right mindset and goal, they will surely treat competition as a way to  improve themselves and offer more value to their clients unique to them as compared to their competitors.
2667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 03, 2016, 07:10:46 AM
Gambling smart and smart gambling are having very big differences. But neither of them will be guaranteed for making profit from gambling. The hard truth but we need to accept that gambling is not for making profit so playing for gambling in smart way is completely meaningless.
Why so many confusions? We need to agree that once we  enter into gambling, no more we will be smart enough. You may argue that you are gambling smartly like you are gambling for entertainment and not for profits still you are cheating yourselves by spending big money for your entertainments.
Yes, some gamblers are thinking themselves smarter by having gambling for entertainment purpose.
But gambling must be one of the costliest entertainment, instead of going for gambling for entertainment why not they go for watching movie or playing video games.

Some Hollywood movies are better than gambling as we could imagine we are into battlefield with 3D effects.
People surely have different interest and gambling could be one of them, I think as long as you are doing it for fun you are doing it smartly. But the moment you will aim for the money, you need to get ready to accept the consequences as the chances of losing is big compared to winning.
saddest true when we start looking for it as a profitable venue of source of income the big possibility as well to make our life worse
the amount of risk to lose is double rather than the amount we enjoy when we still playing for fun.

This is true. Unless you have very big bankroll and is being coached by a professional gambler that have proof of winning over losing and you witness how that professional gambler is playing. This way, you are not only investing/risking your big bankroll, but at the same time your time and whole of your focus. If you are not doing that, better just play gambling for fun and with little amount of money that you can afford to lose.
2668  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 03, 2016, 06:58:15 AM
It doesn't matter as long were earning money right if gold and bitcoin can earn easily then we need to choose them both if we can get gold or bitcoin everyday this is good to live with this too and buy lots of things with this i love doing something investing and trading
Bitcoin we can earn it here than gold.. both of them are good to hold honestly i can not afford to buy gold i have my own accesories here made by gold and i think this is one of the good investment for future.. but i will stay in bitcoin since we can earn it here in other activity..
yeah it is easier to earn bitcoins and to actually use it in my opinion , though gold seems to be safer

i cant say gold is safer. .maybe on price but when lossing it gold has more potential to get lost due to many interest but only if you lock it on the safe there you could call it safe and beside gold are like internet money today. .why? they just exchange paper on the internet and they dont have it physically.
right gold physically gather interest from the eye of many people knowing that you have a lots of it can take your life in danger while btc is anonymous you just needed to have clean computer or storage since it is anonymous no one can trace you right away if you have a lots of btc inside your wallet.
Exactly, that is why invest in gold if you are only rich that you can not just afford to buy gold but also to protect your investment.

Bitcoin is the simplest investment so far because it is anonymous and people can never tell how much your worth as a person, in addition with your earnings you  do not need to pay taxes so you can maximize your income.

That is really one of the reasons why I love bitcoin - the fact that you no other people can know your net worth because your bitcoins possession is somewhat protected through its animosity feature. Although your transactions can be tracked because it is public but who knows who if you are using couple of bitcoin addresses.
2669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 06:35:22 AM
There are girls ! The pretty ones that stand behind the tables and get you to bet all of your money. XP lol Dont fall for it ! Its a trap eek ! They do that because it's mostly men who gamble. But its not uncommon to see women. There is nothing abnormal about hearing about women gambling. There lots.

Most of the time gamblers are men... When you see a woman I think its' not common and I think the ratio would be one is to many... There are girls of course, but seeing them regularly gambling and betting, I think there is something in them that's different in a normal woman...  Smiley It's true that it is uncomfortable betting along with girls specially if they are looking for special treatment...  Smiley


Because it is not good to see a woman gambling, in the eyes of the public that is not acceptable because they know and experience that gambling does not give a good result of those people who are addicted in gambling, I cannot imagine what a woman could do if she can be addicted with gambling.
just like drugs they can sell their body to get some money to gamble thats the saddest truth.
That was the saddest thing to know .i have watch a true to life story a girl who is addicted on gambling and she do that sells her body after he loss all things that she have .
Drugs is even more addicting than gambling you can control and it is easy to cure gambling addiction than drugs also if you're on drugs you can do all things that you don't want ,you see real things into other things something like that .

Of course this is an extreme case scenario. Not all girls are addicted to gambling and so with men. I see it all being equal - I have meet on chat some girls who are betting and they are just doing it to kill time - they are not really addicted to it. Some are betting small amounts while waiting for their kids at school and some are house mom where as I've said are playing for entertainment and to ease the boredom at home.
2670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 03, 2016, 05:40:09 AM
there are no easy ways to make profit from gambling to be honest, i think that you will never make money for a living out of it
well in some cases they can make money for a living those who's expert and knows how to manage bankroll and not greedy to earn a lot they can make some earnings that can sustain their needs but that percentage is not even 5% of gamblers for sure because most of us are greedy so more loses than winnings for sure.
If you are greedy, then you forget about profit. Because your greediness will never let you to make a profit in gambling. If you have control on your bankroll, then you can try in the different method you have a chance to make a profit in gambling. According to me play safe bets. In sports betting play low odds bets, you have 90% chance to win your bet.

Greed is the number one reason among others, that a gambler loses his/her session. Greed will let you blindly bet any amount because you are after more profit than you have to. I mean, all of us want big profit - but we ahve to be realistic enough and always reminds ourselves that there is a house edge advantage of the casino we are playing.
2671  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: October 03, 2016, 04:11:24 AM
Yes, i will. If the job have a good future and the salary is good than my day job, the most important thing is the future of the job. If the job can't live for long run, i will not take it.

Precisely, our job security is very important, we cannot just leave our previous day job if we can't find a new one that is secure and would last longer.. I experienced that before, I leave my previous job and I was not prepared and end up poor... So it's good if we could find a long lasting job in bitcoin before leaving our day job... Suddenly there is no such thing... Only those programmers and traders have a long lasting and regular earnings here...  Smiley
If we feel unsecured when quitting our job we should not do it, do not gamble you future for bitcoin because that is not a good decision especially when you have a big family and they are depending on your for their daily needs, any decision of quitting should be carefully plan.

That is correct. When I quit my job few months ago to focus on bitcoin, I have a reserve savings that can last me up to 6 months as if I was still working on my day job. So, 6 months was my test period of bitcoin will really work for me. However, even before 6 months, I got financially troubled and end up going back to my day job - good thing that my previous clients still want my services for them.
2672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 04:07:40 AM

I would surely do the same thing too since money is  so hard to earn this days  you would  make such hard work, time and  efforts to attain it. If  i would be rich then  i wont mind to waste my money for leisure times since  i could do other things aside from gambling.
That's true, if I were become rich I would surely use my money in wise way and not just to waste them in gambling because I have no assurance in gambling since gambling is more on luck.

Thats correct. Setting up an new business or investing the money is a proper manner is much better than wasting it on a casino where only luck is predominant. One should never feel lucky if they get rich rather be more cautious about their money and spend it wisely.
Yeah, and for me rich people don't just waste money that is no purpose, they value each centavo they have in their pocket. Because for me, rich people become rich because they know how to handle money wisely.
Well i do not agree with you that rich people doesnt need to gamble or i would even say that gambling is only for the richer peoples not for the poor ones.Becuase richer people can afford to loose money so they can gamble but its definitely not for poor ones.

Maybe they need gambling, maybe not. But I think, rich people will not waste their hard earned money into gambling. Their money and time is too valuable to be spent into gambling. They would rather invest their time and money into businesses that guarantees profit. Or they would rather play golf with business partners than  play in  a casino.
Gambling for them is just part of the entertainment they can get to enjoy as rich people, while the poor people has no privilege to enjoy as we also seek for the money, rich have a good self control that's why they are in the top level of the society so nothing to worry actually.

That is correct especially to rich people that got their richness through hard labor and constant wise decision, they won't let gambling destroy what they have founded for so long. They just play for entertainment and if they play hard, they have certain limitations that can't affect heavily on their entire wealth.
2673  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: October 03, 2016, 04:04:55 AM
Maybe some people only but most of the people who knows how Bitcoin works and profiting with it surely loves Bitcoin. Those people who doesn't know a single inch about Bitcoin will love this coins once they were able to know about this. Who will not going to love instant transaction anywhere the world.

The fact is that they hate bitcoins because they are not aware how to use it or how to earn it and as it is totally new concept for them they must surely finding it complicated.

Ignorance plays a big role as to why people may hate on Bitcoin. But I think bad investment timings that result in losses is even a bigger factor as to why people start hating Bitcoin. I see a lot people complain that Bitcoin is just a manipulated whale toy because every time they buy, the price goes down, and every time they sell, the price goes up. They don't look at themselves in the mirror and think about what they did wrong.

Patience is the key in making profits in bitcoins, and if you don't have patience then you will surely end up loosing everything, even if price goes down we should hold them and wait for the right time to sell them.

That is correct. Your patience will really pay when investing to bitcoins. Bitcoin is an awesome invention in this era of high technology. When you have invested in bitcoins, you are investing to a coin that has potential future because of its features. We should not invest at it in a short time strategy if we really want to earn big. However, there is nothing wrong to invest it short time in a regular basis when you only know what you are doing.
2674  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: October 03, 2016, 03:44:07 AM
I buy when it's relatively low like now and wait for the rise to happen. Because it eventually does happen. It just takes a matter of time that's all. Grin
Having the right patience is really good when you are an investor of bitcoin, we already witness in the past that the price might drop big so we need to wait for that time, however there are still a good chance that the price will continue to increase, so that is just base on our luck now.

That is true. Bitcoin price will eventually go high because there are many people using it and investors keep coming in. Investing to bitcoin is somewhat the best investment when you compare it to other alt coins. The latter are still working on proving themselves to be where the bitcoin is right now. I invested to bitcoin because of its core features.
2675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: October 03, 2016, 03:41:11 AM

Yeah, that is the easiest way to win in sports betting because games are manipulated or they call it a fixed game. Because of that reality, no team can lose with a longest streak because their franchise will be destroyed and they will not make profit anymore. Just choose a popular team on that matter.

Not that easy but a wiser way to make profits in sports betting. Manipulation is not always happening. Even there isn't a manipulation, martingale betting is really effective in sports betting.

It's impossible you don't make a win at least 4 or 5 bets. How unlucky a person is if he didn't.

This is so true Smiley you will be very unlucky guy when you won't win until 5th games. The best time for me to bet big is during finals of let us say basketball game. It is really unusual that the other team will win to championship without even losing because the fact that the 2 teams reach the championship means that they are really good. Hence, martingale in championship games is the best strategy on winning easy money in sportsbetting.
2676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 03, 2016, 03:30:39 AM
No, i am not become rich from gambling. And I am not sure that in future also I will not become rich from gambling. Because I will play only sports betting that too very low bet. and in gambling, the winning chances is very less. In slot games, i never made any profit, and I don't have any hope that I will make a profit in future.
buy i think no one know about the future therefore to predict about the future is not so easy, i also not rich from gambling but i know about some people who are really rich from gambling and still doing gambling and making money.
well yeah i dont know and no one knows what is going to happen in the future, im not rich from gambling and i never will be
maybe they already master their skills so possibly they keep on playing to win more and they control their self in order for them to keep winning
i think it is really hard to master that skills and so hard to  be rich in gambling it is just luck and hard work for them who does.
Gambling si the easiest way to play but the hardest way to win, if someone can win in the long run, I have to call him a gifted person because it is very rare it will happen, most of us loses in the long run just like the others. Gambling is not a professional for me so I will never be rich with it.

When you have a big bankroll and plays like professional gamblers (sharks) then you will become really rich when you are lucky enough. I said lucky enough because gambling is a based on pure luck (except games that requires skills like poker). However, if you have no strategies and is still new with gambling, then you will lose if you keep on playing on without calculated stop.
2677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 03, 2016, 03:27:29 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?
When you are going to gamble the first thing that I think about is if I am going to be able to win money this time.
So for me it is always the profit that matters and if you win fun comes with it automatically.
Don't think too much if you really want to play in gambling website first thing you need to do is think about what the profit you gonna make and how much you gonna take for this day you can make profit just don't think negatives sides automatically you will lose everything. if you do that.
so you mean you need to have a limit profit and lost? isn't it what you mean?

that should work actually but not everybody can do it smoothly 100% , there always a fail. and sometimes even you have set a limit you still force yourself to break and push the limit to lost control and busted it all.
If you rich your limit or your deposit was lose dont ever think do deposit again y'all are getting greedy and you will lose again thats what i meant if you win then withdraw everdy body can make profit in short term and thats 100% self control is must and important
its really hard for us to win from gambling even any strategy we use the best way is just to practice that gambling is only played for fun and just for using spare money to enjoy so no matter what will happen you can move away without any regrets.
Accepting the reality that it is really hard to win in gambling is the best way to do it, we can never win because of the house edge but we can win something not financially if we will be able to enjoy gambling. Actually if you really look at closely, you will understand that only the gambling sites wins.

This is true. At the end of the day it is always that casino sites that will going to win - it was designed to win with its house edge. However, if you find some strategies that will give you more odds of winning and then disciplined enough to stop when you are at winning wil make you a winner over the casino. Try to check some high rollers, there are some players there where they have positive statistics that stops when they win like 1 btc already - you still waiting for their next bet they stop betting already and cash-out their winnings - that is discipline in the making.
2678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 03:23:08 AM
the safest way to not loose your money is avoid gambling in the first place and there is no specific safe method to gamble unless and until you find a weakness or a hack and exploiting that.

Yup, avoiding gambling sites would mean safe for your money, nothing beats that...  But others don't do that since they are into gambling and might be obsess in winning big so they forgot about that way... Exploits are really safe, however there is no way that it would last long, gambling operators will always figure it out and patch, there is also a possibility that they might ban you from betting if they found out that you find an exploit and yet you keep on cheating...  Smiley

Gambling, just like in life as a whole, the winner is the one with most experiences and is wise enough to do the things that works and  not keep on doing things that isn't working. When you gamble and find a good strategy that you have the good odds against the casino, use it until it no longer works - which will eventually does because of the casino house edge.
2679  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: October 02, 2016, 05:56:53 AM
I would cash out 7.5 of it and spend on buying nice things. Other 2.5, 1 BTC keep it in BTC and other 1.5 invest in something that seems interesting.
Nice idea, well spending your money in things you would like to do gives you happiness, for me i will use it to secure my future, maybe i will build a business and use the other btc for trading.

I agree with you to use it for business, investment, and trading. You don't really have those nice things in life when you spend allin to getting it and at the back of your mind, you no longer have money for your other bills. I would rather take it for long term - use the 10btc for investment, trading, and business and just use portion of the profit to buy nice things in life.
2680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 02, 2016, 05:51:50 AM
when I loose a big money, it makes me cry and I hope everyone would be having the same feeling, as nobody wants loose the game or their money

But I feel in a different way, I think that winning makes me cry more in happiness than crying in sorrow when we lose.
Change the way you look at things as it might change everything in your life, but don't get addicted to this and play with discipline.

for some people both make them cry but in both extreme cases involve to cry as for some amount no one cry. If a person win a highest amount of wealth in gambling then he is happiness start to cry and those who loose all of their wealth start to cry.
well yeah some people actually cry all the time, but if you dont cry a lot then just dont gamble if you cry when you lose
What do you mean?if you dont cry a lot then you just dont gamble if you cry when you lose ? I don't get it ,kindly make your statement clear .don't just post without knowing what you've post.

I do agree Chief Stedsm changing the way you look and appreciate what is done may change the way you think and ofcourse it will change your life also.
I don't cry at all even when i won or loss .i just change my stratedgy try on different ways thats it .crying is useful especially on lossing money on gambling .its my choice and decision whatever the consequences i accept it.

lol.. I was also trying t figure out his post about crying Cheesy but anyway, you are truly right. If you play like a professional gambler, you play with a system and a strategy - you dont get emotional when playing it is all pre-planned bets. And if you lose, you are not at fault it was just because of the strategy you are using and move on for the new one or play another session with the same strategy.
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