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1881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: June 19, 2017, 01:22:51 PM
I am just an ordinary player in the gambling sites. Which means I am not an addict gambler, I think the  only reason why I keep coming back
is I just wanted to make a relaxation and have fun for the meantime.

Good for you mate if you are playing just for fun and enjoyment. And I hope you can control because you might think of just for fun in the beginning but as you playing and loosing money, you might think to recover all your looses. So better watch out your on your gambling habits.

I am also like him I will play gambling to come out from my work stress, and I don't have any other bad habit like smoking and other things to get relax. So I choose this gambling to get relief. And I have control on my game I will not lose more money, and I will play only how much I can afford. But many players will come back again to get back the loss this is a bad idea. To get back, your lost choose any other way don't choose to gamble again.

Chasing your previous losses must be the very least thing you can ever do because you are already playing out of rage and you may have no time in reminding yourself that you are already betting too big amount of money that you can't afford to lose anymore - these might be life savings, family properties, and the like.
1882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do winning and losing gamblers have different personalities or habits? on: June 19, 2017, 01:18:11 PM
Yes gamblers have different personalities especially the losing one.Ofcourse if you lost the game your heart beating fast and it feels hot and uncomfortable.Most of the time you can see the unwanted behaviour of the loser person.While if your a winner you've got the happy face and smily.
Yes most of the people will get tension when they lost money in gambling. And they like to stay alone few hours to forget that loss. Someone will become angry, and they put all money in next bet to get back there lost. This kind of people also there. And some people will take there loss easily, and they enjoy that movement. They play only to get fun, not for money. But the winners will be very happy, and that full day they are very active in all works. 

Nice comparison about kinds of gambler and nice giving emphasis on gambler that take their loss easily because I presume that they only spend money that they can afford to lose and play only for fun. This should be us - the one that only play for fun and entertainment so there will be less stress along the way.
1883  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: June 19, 2017, 01:12:29 PM
maybe one day in the future... but today too many people don't know about bitcoin & old people don't want hear nothing about new payment methods, so I think that 50 years min.

Unless there will be some form of war or calamities where there will be chaos and everything, maybe - and only maybe that it will make the bank disappear. But to be honest, I am doubtful that it will really disappear banks. Bitcoin is a good form of investment and other side method to earn money for our family needs and wants. Hopefully, everyone takes advantage of the recent bitcoin price rising.
1884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: June 19, 2017, 12:50:56 PM
It will always matter, why im saying because there are people wich does studies the market, the teams, collect information and them make their bets, while newbies just bet without any information, sure the lucky is the key of the sucess at the most gambling but strategy and information will always let you with better ods to win.

It depends on what are you going to play for, if it is for profit then it might be useful however if it is only for fun then I dont see how this is useful. I play for fun so I dont need to think of anything while I do that, I want to have as much fun as possible thats why I dont want to care about the result and only want to enjoy playing
But whatever you are looking for, profit or fun. I think have experience in gambling is really matter because it will help you to determine something like 'when you must start to bet,how many the value of your first bet,etc.'
Yes the fun gambler and profit gambler both need experience. Without experience we play gambling, we will end up with a big loss. And the experience will not teach us how to make money it teach us how to control our money. And we learn which games are suited for us to play. Not everyone will be a pro in all games. People like different games. So the experience will teach you these all things. So the experience is matter in my way.

Experience, if utilized properly, will help us avoid the things or reasons that make us miserable at times. This is also true with gambling when we experienced some big loses because we never learned to stop and become greedy, then we can use it for our benefit in the next gambling sessions we have.
1885  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: June 19, 2017, 12:28:21 PM
I would like to recommend that you should try the small amount of coins like dogecoin.
Something like just that you might have some idea of how it would work or try to play some stock market games.
Find a coin that has been new to tha market then take a deep research on everything about it. In that case you are very sure on what you are investing for. We should be wise enough in everything we are investing because if we not we may lose our money, it has a risk in trading so better to think of it hardly before investing to the coin. Read the whitepaper and the platform keenly.

This is also one of the best and most high gains when it comes to investing to certain coins - the new coins emerging on the public but of course, it comes with a very big risk though because there are also some altcoins that are being closed by trading platforms and you will have hard time selling your share out of your investment.
1886  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: June 19, 2017, 12:24:29 PM
I agreed that trading is very unpredictable things, if you predict wrong everything in your balance can wreck.
Prediction is a common part of the trading I think, which I observed in the market platform.

Prediction is the result or the thing that your analysis does ,If you do two it is great because with a analysis through researching you can get some update how's a cpin project works .Wrong prediction happens only most pf the time if you have no knowledge about what you trade and you based on your emotions.

That is correct mate. If you are too emotional when trading, you will most likely sell very early and even take losses early. However, if you are well experienced and skilled trader, you don't care whether the price goes up or down, you just execute an exit when you hit your target price and that is it.
1887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you play Dice can you feel your heart in your throat? on: June 19, 2017, 12:20:33 PM
I don't know man every time I play dice or any game that you can lose fast or win fast just with a few clicks I can feel my heart tapping on my throat
loool, how about you?

Its not just you every Gambler has the same problem, or I feel it's the thrill that one enjoys. There are people who enjoy thrill in bike riding, hikes etc we gambler enjoy it when the dice rolls, the moment between the results and roll is the best and absolutely insane moment, it's like it feels heaven everytime it happens and then when you win oh boy the pleasure is amazingly good words can't describe it, am I the only one who's so romantic about it.
On playing dice i do feel this way on which in every roll it really gives me chills and excitement and at the same time frustrations when i lose up.Its a mixed feeling by the way knowing that dice rolls only have 2 results in each bet.This would really depend on how a gambler would treat this one,if you are aiming for money you wont really feel the excitement.

One mentor of mine before taught me to bet and gamble without any emotions regardless of its outcome. So we treat gambling as a job and not just for fun. I did not survived though because I am really having hard time stopping myself from being frustrated when we lost like 1 bitcoin in just couple of minutes.
1888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: June 19, 2017, 11:40:52 AM
The way to make banks disappear is to organize boycotts and for business owners to cut banks out of their business.

Bitcoin wasn't developed to compete with banks in areas of loans or high speed transactions like credit cards.

Crypto isn't likely to replace banks anytime soon.
Yes exactly i agree bitcoin is doesn't mean to compete with banks and it is not having capability of loans and also real time transaction like credit card and debit cards . Its may just effect foreign exchange.

It does have real time transactions now but with just some places. You haven't experienced it that is why you are saying this and that includes me too. But I have read a lot about it that it is already on going with some merchants.
Actually it is like the better of credit cards. Here you will use your smartphone and would do the transaction yourself. I think there is a video in Youtube now.

As the bitcoin is getting much popularity, there are already some merchants in the brick and mortar businesses who are accepting bitcoins as a mode of payments. This is really a good way to give people alternative on what payment channels are they going to use in any of their purchases or any financial transactions.
1889  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: June 19, 2017, 11:32:50 AM
The best way for steady income is to work hard for what I have earning now.I dont earn as a bitcoiner yet but I saw that this has a very good income so this is good to be a steady income.According to the bitcoiners as I can see their life now has change.From nothing to something just thru BTC trading job.That if you do seriously theres something happened in your life going to success and wealthy.
If you don't have any source of bitcoin as of now then you should just stick on what you are doing which is working hard to gain some income and profits to be able to build your portfolio to start doing bitcoin. If you have enough capital then you can start either investing in altcoins or trading them because i do believe that both of them are profitable if you know how to play their games.
But to earn a fixed income is very difficult.
Investing is not necessarily a fixed income from bitcoin.
I think getting a fixed income from bitcoin is very difficult.
But getting more could have happened when we invested in some coin

The only fixed income you received is a fixed salary job and some fixed gain dividends from preferred stocks you invest to. In the case of bitcoin, signature campaign is another example of fixed income. But when we say investing or trading, you don't get fixed income but can get potential bigger income in a sense if you are skilled enough in trading.
1890  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETTING SITES TO AVOID on: June 19, 2017, 05:43:05 AM
Asking for ID after you win a decent amount is shitty af. Even when I send my ID some websites still require more information and it becomes pretty annoying to deal with them. Thats why I check every gambling site before I start playing there now.

FanoBet also asks you for ID after you win a nice amount and try to withdraw.

Really? I never encountered online bitcoin casino sites that require ID for their players. But maybe I am wrong because I never won that big bitcoin before but I don't really think so. I have friends on primedice that earn lots there but they are not required an ID to withdraw. Maybe you are playing with online casinos that require fiat money to bet.
1891  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: June 19, 2017, 05:38:26 AM
Some people say that is.much easier to get or earn Bitcoins than fiat money and that is why they prefere it. For some it's.more convenient to use because is much more anonimous than fiat money and you can avoid the banks. Some say volatility is disadvantage of Bitcoin and some love it exactly because of that and they see their chance for profit.

There are many opportunities in bitcoin and that is a good side income apart from your regular fiat money income generation. The volatility of bitcoin prices gives fortune to many and of course, it also have other people losing money out of it. Best thing to do is just hold your bitcoin overtime and you will gain money in the coming days Smiley
1892  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think of people that treat Bitcoin solely as an investment? on: June 19, 2017, 05:36:05 AM
I've seen a lot of people arguing that Bitcoin can be profitable because of its volatility and convenience, but sometimes I feel that people using Bitcoin as an investment have little enthusiasm for its main use as a means of trading without an intermediary.

Under what circumstances should Bitcoin be treated as investment and to what extent should people think about its use as a global currency?

Personally, i treat bitcoin as an investment too. And I think treating it as an investment should never become an issue to us. We have different perspective and views on how we see such thing specifically bitcoin. Today, bitcoin's value is changing from time to time. That maybe is a big factor why people chooses to hold their bitcoin and wait for it to profit.

Since the rise of bitcoin prices, I never cash them out and just hold on - I will definitely accumulate more bitcoin as days go by but I will only cash it out when it reaches $3000 in price I guess but to be honest, I really don't have any plan of cashing out now I am just holding:)
1893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: June 19, 2017, 05:33:44 AM
yes no doubt about this that experience really matter in gambling. although you need a good luck and with out a good luck it is almost impossible to win in gambling but still your experience can also help you in winning you in gambling.


Your experience will help you when to stop and reduce your gambling losses and this experience will not help you to win money from gambling. If you want to win then you should be very lucky then only you can make some money. So don't waste your time and money to find a working method in gambling instead just play for fun and if you're lucky then you will make some money or just enjoy the game. If you want to make a profit then better invest in some other places.

This is really one of the best advice we can get - just play for fun, period. And if you can get lucky, that fun will be more fun! Smiley and of course, if you lose which you will from time to time, that is ok because you are just having fun and that is just part of the game - you should play with money that you can afford to lose though.
1894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do winning and losing gamblers have different personalities or habits? on: June 19, 2017, 05:29:26 AM
Winning will trigger excitement and losing will trigger sadness. Some people will express their win by handing out a little tip to their friends and when they lose they may cuss or say things that are not reasonable just to vent their anger. So, winning and losing will have different effects on each individual.

We are really acting and feel according to our winnings and losing. These are really normal - the bad thing is the one that are in excess. If you lose like big time and you are losing even your properties and life savings, that is really too bad. However, if you win real big time, I don't know what you feel! Wink
1895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 19, 2017, 05:25:09 AM
That's all trye,we should only play the amount we can afford to lose to have no regrets for its hard to tell whether we can earn or not.

The amount that we can lose and make sure that it is the only small amount. I dont think it is good to spend alot even if we can afford it. Alot of people have lose alot from gambling so I dont think that it is good to waste money. The money that we dont waste could be use somewhere else when we need it for sure

Gambling is not made to earn money instead just to enjoy your free time with a small amount and if anyone understands this logic then they will never spend more money in gambling. But some people wants to earn quick money without doing a hard work so they end up losing more money in gambling. As you said, one should always go to gambling with small amount and never deposit bigger amount and lose finally.
I don’t agree with this statement which says gambling is not made to earn money.

It is made to earn money but not for everyone if we look back in the history when gambling was played only with cards and stuff it was designed that one of the persons will win it and not the all. Since, that day and today everyone playing the gambling wants to earn money with it.

You mean to lose money most of the time? Those lucky people is the only one who are earning money in gambling, and not all the people who try gambling in the first place. Most of them got addicted because of having this mindset that they could earn bitcoin out of it. Even though it is risky many people are still trying it because the higher the risk the higher the price that they could make.

It is just funny that even though there is a lot of people who are losing in gambling most of the time, still they are not quitting gambling instead they are getting hyped out because they thought that without quitting gambling means the bigger the profit that they could win.

that is really sad that there are still people that stay gambling even if they have lots of losses already. Hopefully, they will be enlightened and do some other stuff in life that is truly valuable. Of course, I cannot judge them because I was in the same foot as they have years ago. Just play for fun guys! Smiley
1896  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: June 19, 2017, 05:22:39 AM
Trading system i know and i use just one: making a profit.

Basically trading bitcoin or altcoin is better than forex trading. Because even if we suffer losses because the price is not in accordance with the wishes, we still have coins. Contrast with forex, if loss, so our dollars are also reduced. Money management in trade is important, without money management trading will be like a blind gamble.
That is what distinguishes the trading of crypto currency with forex. Bitcoin / altcoin gives us all the convenience, we can benefit without fear of losing all the bitcoin we have. For now I use trading as a main income. I can earn more money than work in the real world. This is a fun job.

I know that if you are a good and skilled trader, you will do good and may be earning big money versus working on real jobs. I am still working now with clients while trading and doing signature campaign. I hope I can be able to manage to transition from working and focusing on trading altcoins - I just don't have that exact plan as to how many coins I will cashout and how many gains I put back for another trade.
1897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: June 19, 2017, 05:18:58 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?

i only gamble for fun.
the fun is the only thing that matters in the end because the earning you can get from the gambling is not really that much and it is already too risky that you will lose a lot more.

According to I do gamble for two reasons, firstly I do gamble to find pleasure in my spare time when home from work so as to make the mood becomes happy and satisfied when the benefit is great so I did a game again until I stop gambling if there is any point going lost. then it's me doing gambling profits and also have fun

That is good that you only gamble to feel good because I see a lot of people that are into gambling after to gain big profit and treating their bankroll as capital just in business. This way, they will really end up frustrated because we will most likely lose than win in gambling.
1898  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: June 19, 2017, 04:48:20 AM
In  trading, skills and knowledge are not the only things important. We must be aware too of our risk tolerance and discipline when we are into it.
it is too much important to know about the market, you need to have good planning for going for trade. i think if you do not have good planing the you will become confused and can lose money you need to study the market do analysis and according to your analysis you should take the step and through this way you can protect yourself from lost and can really make money in trading.

That is very true - if we don't have a trading plan, then we will get confused and probably ended up more losing trade than winning trades. The best thing is to have a plan of trades first and then execute it as what the plan is so you will really know what the outcome of your trade would be.
1899  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What did you do in the past 24 hours in Poloniex? on: June 19, 2017, 04:44:07 AM
I mean, in the past 24 hours, I was trying to deposit and buy altcoins because they are so tempting due to them being very cheap. However, I am afraid to deposit because it might not get through.

Question: Have you able to manage to buy and sell in polo in the past 24 hours? or have you sold your altcoins, hold? What exactly your actions during the past 24 hours?

I'm wondering?  Undecided
Just recently, Poloniex face some controvercies and before that happen I was transferred to bittrex exchange from Poloniex. I know many of the poloniex user was also transfered into other exchange too.

I believe poloniex is getting ok now and back as stable as before.. I am trading on other platform and will about to go back to poloniex now. Hopefully I can get some 10 trades for today - I hope I have at leas 6 wins or more over 10 trades that I will be going to execute now.
1900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: June 19, 2017, 04:37:21 AM
I think it's better to invest it, rather than to gamble it. If invested it, it's clear our balance is safer from lost, and can benefit even little by little, obviously it's safer than gamble it, gambling is more at risk.

maybe you are right, but if you make wrong selection in investment gambling site, then you can risk your money while you invested with them. its a good idea to search every thing about the sites so we can feel safe to investing in that site although there are no guarantee that site will be a legit site for a long term.

I think it is implied that if you choose to invest you will do the necessary diligence in order to secure a profitable investment. If you do not research and just invest on the first site that pops up, you're throwing away money. That would be no different in throwing away your money on gambling.

that right what you said and i am really agree with you and what i am doing so far, before i invest in the gambling site, i will search as much as info about the site including with the review from other people so i can determine if the site is match with i want or not. and after that, i only use my free money that i don't use for anything to invest so i can watch over my invest if its work or not and if it gives me some profit, i will continue to invest more.

Treat gambling properly, I invest in trading and think gambling is just to risk luck. This will not work if we gamble with the investment objectives because in the end will always get lost and lose. If we play gamble with free money, nothing will limit our mind to play and win.

You are right, trading is more better than gambling because the latter is just too risky compared to the former. I would rather invest to online casino if I really after for profit but if I am only after for fun and entertainment, then gambling with the money I can afford to lose is ok.
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