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2681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 18, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
I can only hear the crickets chirping...

2682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 15, 2018, 04:22:29 PM
It is important for me to know that the project that interests me is safe. What steps should we take to obtain a legal opinion that BiblePay is safe?

And let me make a distinction on Safe vs legitimate. 

You can see we are legitimate if you investigate :  https://accountability.biblepay.org  and take a look at our expenses paid, then our active orphan list, then our inbound letters from each child per month.

However if you are asking if we are a safe investment in the sense of How safe is a cryptocurrency investment in the first place, I would say be very wary about investing in cryptocurrency as a whole, unless you know what you are getting into.  (Be an informed and accredited investor first).  The crypto space has certain systemic risks that we need to overcome, like government acceptance, single points of failure, community continuity etc.  I feel that a cryptocurrency investment has a 50-50 chance of surviving 10 years.  However, through diversification I feel its worthwhile to have exposure in crypto, because of the benefits of the tenets of deflation (IE coins like us do not print like central governments, we vote on our budgets and we emit controlled emission levels).  So if you know what you are doing you can construct a portfolio that has a certain % of stocks, bonds physical assets and cryptocurrencies to hedge each others types of risk.



2683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 15, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
** COMPASSION LIQUIDATION FYI **

I'll be selling 9 million BBP over our 3 large exchanges (CCEX, CoinExchange and SouthXChange) over the next 14 days.

My goal is to sell about 700,000 per day.  Since masternode coins are down 90%, I'll try to space out the sales over all 3 exchanges.

This sale is starting now on c-cex.


2684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 15, 2018, 03:33:26 PM
Couple of thoughts, these are just my opinions and not the canon belief of the coin, but I think could spawn some good discussion.

On the thought of removing the Team BiblePay requirement to PoDC.  I understand we would gain more users, but I fear we would alienate our current mining base.  I'm pretty sure without the team requirement it will be harder to show our value to the scientific community.  Sure, we can show how many people get BBP and user BOINC, but we could no longer claim those as our unique users.  While we've not been able to capitalize on the potential PR value of Team BiblePay yet, I think it is there.

We have enough exchanges: With the addition of Cryptobridge and the upcoming addition of Coinexchange, in addition to SouthXchange, QIEX and C-Cex, we have enough markets to provide stability.  Sure, the last two have had some issues, but the first two should provide enough market stability.  The only other exchanges we should be courting would be top 40 exchanges and many of those don't accept paid listings so for all practical purposes, I think we are where we need to be with that.

I do believe we need to seriously consider two moderate changes to the coin.

The first is to remove the Dark Gravity Wave component from the PoDC and Sanctuary payments and keep it solely for the PoBH (heat mining) payments.  This would still protect against an influx of hash rate, but would allow investors to have a more dependable ROI for Sanctuaries.  In the last month I've seen payments range from approximately 3900 to approximately 4600.  This is a variation of nearly 20%, and adds too much complexity to the coin, skews the potential maximum emissions and I believe would be of benefit to change.  It would also make Sanctuaries and PoDC miners get equal rewards, whereas right now, PoDC gets more in a day than the collective sum of winning Sanctuaries.  In short, give the lucky Sanctuary 38.5% of the current block maximum, rather than the DGW Modified value.

The second is put a lower cap on the emission, preventing it from going below 200 BBP per block (before accounting for the budgetary parameters).  This would mean no max supply, but would only add approximately 7% to the current theoretical maximum every 50 years.  This would send a message that 1) we intended to be around more than 50 years and 2) Will still be supporting our charities and having a workable budget.

While we could discuss either of these points further down the line, I think considering them now, while we're still relatively young, would be best.

Hi West,

I've haven't read bitcointalk much when I was abroad, and I don't know if there has been recent talk of removing the Team BiblePay requirement to PoDC, but I agree with you that having the team-requirement is something we should cherish. It's a strong statement. Whether it's the smartest in terms of adoption is debatable, but I'd rather have a smaller and committed group than a larger less-committed (also if terms of HODL).

I agree that we're fine for now on the exchange-front. Our efforts should now shift mainly to PR.

About the changes for the coin: I have thought about the variable Sanctuary payments in the past, and I agree with you that it would be more fair that Sanctuaries and PoDC miners get equal rewards. I have only limited knowledge about the technicalities behind this, but I think this is a fair point to discuss.

About putting a lower cap on the emission: I guess there are different theories about this. I think it's a good point you mention with BiblePay needing a workable budget in the far future. But I guess that the thing is that we have no idea what the future will bring. Maybe the BiblePay foundation will have products by then that will ensure a steady source of income (for charities). Of course, the decentralized nature may change I guess? But maybe we can have a donation address by then, and the contents of that address can still be divided in a decentralized way.

Rob, when creating the coin, did you envision a certain future with regards to the eventually zero block-reward and decentralized charity donations?

BBP has an emission schedule with an approximate soft cap of 5.2 billion by 2050, but in reality the small amount of coins being produced per block (IE 50 coins per block) is still enough for the system to function in the same way (as an economy of scale) as it does today.  We would drop to a level emitting something like 25 coins per block in the year 2100.  So we do not actually drop to a hard zero emission but we arent producing enough to materially change the 5.2 billion total either.  The theory is, a budget of 120,000 bbp per month will fully fund whatever charity activities we have in the year 2050, and 60,000 bbp per month in 2075 etc.

As far as how our DGW difficulty algorithm creates a dyanamic reward which slightly changes the Sanctuary reward due to the total coinbase reward, I have a personal view that this is good - because if we are every under a hash attack, rewards are lowered at that time. The technical reason both sanc & heat miner reward is decreased is because the miner who found the block actually pays the sanc payment.  So since our coin works in percentages, it would not work correctly to emit a block with a 50% penalty that pays the heat miner zero and the sanc 100%, the miner wouldnt mine it, so it is the way it is because of the distribution percentages in the heat mined block.  The heat miner pays the sanctuary because the heat miner found and created the block.


However I think this should be discussed along with any changes that DAHF may have on biblepay, since in the near future,we may have a third mining algorithm in the finance sector being born.  We are doing as much as possible in analyzing this for the benefit of the orphans in order to create a thread to discuss it.  It has to do with having the sanctuaries mine as a new animal using new datasets never before used in crypto.  Then sending the outputs of these analyzed portfolios into black boxes in order to form a hedge fund for biblepay, where the orphans receive 10% of the gross profits.  We have a lot to discuss, so please be patient while I make a wiki on DAHF paths as this is a very dynamic animal.

2685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 15, 2018, 03:07:07 PM
Question regarding wallet.dat backup in Linux.

should I backup it only once or on every new wallet version ?

We back it up automatically, but you should keep monthly wallet.dat backups offsite.

The wallet.dat format is not changing during each version, we will announce it if it does change.

2686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 14, 2018, 05:05:11 PM
I just got a call from Compassion about Juneyssi Yalile Cabrera Gonzalez,


with very bad news.

She was caught up as a victim in the middle of the Civil Unrest in Nicaragua, and is missing.

They are keeping an eye out for her and the local church compassion office is still open and helping other orphans.

Please add her to your prayers.  I will add a prayer to our wallet now.

2687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 14, 2018, 02:59:34 PM
Togo- also add that we receive one Personal letter per month from each orphan and keep electronic copies.  Its obviously apparent that we sponsor the stated number of children.

I argue that we are more transparent than Enron.  We have electronic copies of everything that reconciles.  This is better than certified accountants that falsify things for wall street.

2688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 14, 2018, 02:42:46 PM
Yes. I confirm. Everything is stopped in
@Lichtsucher, the PurePool is not founding blocks since yesterday 9pm. (more than 12 hours ago).
It was stable for some time but It is stuck again. Could you please have a look?

Thank you!


Just checked my miner and can confirm.
Just getting connectionrefusederror

Yes. I confirm. Everything is stopped in PurePool
Guys, I started mining BBP 1 month ago and since I started I have had a lot of headaches due to PurePool instability. When I see a problems I don’t know if the problem is with my wallet or with the pool. Very frustrating...
This is not motivating new comers to stay with BBP.

I saw that you are looking for new miners and purepool is perfect (easy and clean) but you need to improve stability.

Im moving now from heat mining to PODC but I would recommend you to stabilize PurePool for the new commers to stay.


Btw, pool.biblepay.org is our alternative POBH pool, you can always try it and see if it helps you with reliability.

2689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 14, 2018, 02:41:03 PM
Mhh, the biblepay client crashed in an ugly way and another job filled the disk with error logs after that. I needed to reindex the blockchain to recover the biblepay client.

Hope it can fix everything automaticly, if not then I will look at it in more detail tomorrow Smiley

Since you are one of our devs, if your client crashes more than once in 6 months, I recommend you run valgrind on it and give us the line # so we can fix it if its crashing in such an "ugly" way Smiley.


2690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 14, 2018, 02:39:28 PM
So I saved the blockchain from one of my sanctuaries that forked last week (I guess this was about 7 days ago) and I did some detailed analysis on the issue and found the exact root cause.

We had a block at 63829 that was marked invalid by a certain percentage of the network, and this caused a fork to appear.  On the nodes that marked the block as bad, I confirmed that our "feature" we added (calling reconsiderblock 205 times) actually fails to unmark the bad block as good, hence the reason the node stays in that state no matter what is done (you can move the chain back 1000 blocks, you can manually type reconsiderblock blockhash with the known bad block, etc, but the chainstate persistently keeps the block in its 'dirty' ~BLOCK_FAILED_MASK state, meaning that reconsiderblock does not actually unset our state in practice.  This also explains why an entire resync of the chain is necessary to allow the client to go down the fork with the higher work.

So for the short term solution, I added a feature that detects a fork (I verified that it would have detected the case of 63829 in this case), and erases the entire chainstate and blocks and restarts the wallet in QT.    This is just to provide resilience for now during our next release so that no manual intervention is required (since this appears to only happen a couple times a year).

The longer term solution is for me to find out why 63829 was marked bad to begin with and prevent forks.  This might be impossible as forks occasionally appear on all chains.  We can also look into ways to roll the chain back more gently for the long term solution (IE clear the failed mask state). 
2691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 13, 2018, 03:49:43 PM

Why don't you invite him to post in our thread and challenge even one point and we will prove him wrong every time, and then lets ask him why we cant advertise a Christian charity that is helping 339 orphans every month?



After BBP's non-profit status is in place, we should probably hire a licensed accountant or attorney to audit /certify our orphan sponsorships / payments for the past 12 months.


Yes, we should do that-  we already have one item for the a crypto attorney:  Certify us as a utility and not as an asset, we could also pay a CPA to certify our past expenses.  We will need an accountant to file the annual tax return - we could potentially bundle two tasks for the cpa:  certify expenses and file our tax return.



2692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 13, 2018, 02:43:09 PM
Hi,

could somebody please check whether I am running on a fork or what has happened?


I imported your address as watch-only and see the right balance (the same seen on the explorer)

What wallet version do you have?

# biblepayd --version
Biblepay Core Daemon version 1.1.4.3

Try loading up one of your older wallets from \walletbackups.
2693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 13, 2018, 01:37:35 AM
Bitcointalk Forum - Banner Ad

Proposal:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=83.0

We were rejected again by Theymos, Bitcointalk Forum Admin, on June 20th
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4471292.msg40517470#msg40517470

Quote from: Theymos
I've decided that masternode coins can sometimes be acceptable, but Biblepay seems highly deceptive.
For example, you say "10% of the emission goes to sponsoring Orphans, with provable contributions," but:

 - 10% of the monthly emission should be somewhere around 6 million coins, but the monthly trade volume tends to be
only slightly higher than this, which is unbelievable if you're actually selling the coins in order to make donations.

 - This 10% goes to a hardcoded non-multisig address with no explanation.

 - "THE COIN HAS RPC COMMANDS THAT PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED" is completely false.
The RPC command just totals up all of the payments to the hardcoded address.
What happens after the coins go to that address is unexplained.

 - There is no non-profit registration, receipts for donations, any info about the people who are supposedly facilitating donations, etc.
 
Biblepay looks like a generic coin with hardcoded dev subsidy plus some probably-totally-fabricated marketing about orphans.

I posted the bad news in the forum and we had more conversation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40625636#msg40625636

Here are my collection of notes below,
is there anything more we can add?
is there a better way to organize the information?

Did you talk with Theymos further Rob?
Should I try contacting Theymos again, with this summary below?

===========================================

BiblePay Team:
https://www.biblepay.org/cryptoguru/#_team

BiblePay Foundation - Non-Profit Texas Corporation (In Development):
https://wiki.biblepay.org/BiblePay_DAO

BiblePay White Paper:
https://pool.biblepay.org/Docs/BiblePay_White_Paper.pdf

===

What Evidence/Proof does BiblePay have of 10% Charity Donations?

Accountability: http://accountability.biblepay.org/

====================================
CHARITY #1



Compassion International
https://www.compassion.com/

"All of our Actual Orphan ID #s are listed in:
http://pool.biblepay.org/ >>> "Orphans" >>> "Sponsored Orphan List"

Also, the receipts I posted in EXPENSES are the actual payments I made on my credit card.
I have a copy here in case the IRS comes to my house." -Rob (Creator)

==

COMPASSION INTL
ORGANIZATION NAME: BIBLEPAY
ACCOUNT #: 07816292

PHONE# : (800) 336-7676
HOURS: Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.
Mailing address: Compassion International Colorado Springs, CO 80997
ORG CONTACT: ROBERT A.

=

thesnat21 called Compassion, confirmed 305 orphan sponsorships:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40663169#msg40663169

Brian879 called Compassion, confirmed 308 orphan sponsorships:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40664957#msg40664957

==

Contact:
Ginger Langehennig
Area Director of Donor Relations
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginger-langehennig-4b31981b/
832-797-3749 or glangehennig@us.ci.org

Proposals:
December - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=53.0
February - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=105.0
March - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=137.0
April - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=162.0
May - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=181.0
June - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=195.0
July - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=214.0
August - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=229.0

Pictures:
https://pool.biblepay.org/ >>> Orphans >>> Sponsored Orphan List

Tmike talking to Ginger from Compassion:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg39981340#msg39981340

Rob's Scan of Ginger's Pamphlet:
http://pool.biblepay.org/san/mission/CompassionMeetingGinger.pdf

Statement from Santiago “Jimmy” Mellado, President & CEO, Compassion International
https://medium.com/biblepay-news/charity-profile-compassion-international-75741753e1c8

Letter Writing
BiblePay rewards BBP to write letters to the sponspored orphans through the biblepay pool website
https://pool.biblepay.org/ >>> "Orphans" tab >>> "Write Letter"

====================================
CHARITY #2



BLOOM (Be Love Orphan Outreach Missions)
http://www.bloomworldwide.org/

Contact:
Executive Director, April Wareham
aprilw@nhoom.org

Proposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=73.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=150.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=186.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=219.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=227.0

Pictures:
https://biblepaysponsorkids.tumblr.com/

Facebook Mention:
https://www.facebook.com/Beloveorphanoutreach/posts/1603251943055348

Newsletter Mention:
https://mailchi.mp/bceb933b9ea4/updates-straight-from-africa

Testimonials from BLOOM and CameroonONE
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg39527580#msg39527580

====================================
CHARITY #3



CameroonONE
https://www.cameroonone.org/

Contact:
Director of Operations, Todd Finklestone

Proposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=86.0

Pictures:
https://www.facebook.com/CameroonONE/photos/2003983039625722
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86.0;attach=164;image
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86.0;attach=166;image
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86.0;attach=168;image

Twitter Mention:
https://twitter.com/CameroonONE/status/1010845995188588549

====================================
CHARITY #4



Kairos Childrens Fund
https://www.facebook.com/kairoschildrensfund/
https://kcf.winnegor.org/

Contact:
Andrew Scribner
scribners@gmail.com

Proposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=201.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=226.0

Pictures:
https://www.facebook.com/kairoschildrensfund/photos/2084557715144222
https://www.facebook.com/kairoschildrensfund/photos/2084557528477574

Website Mention:
https://kcf.winnegor.org/biblepay/

====================================

MISC:

Orphan Collage (NOTE: 12MB file):
http://pool.biblepay.org/docs/SponsorshipsAugust2018.pdf

BiblePay Proposals:
https://www.biblepay-central.org/en/proposals/

Console Command:
Code:
getgovernanceinfo

Understanding BiblePay Governance:
http://wiki.biblepay.org/UnderstandingGovernance





Quote from: Theymos
I've decided that masternode coins can sometimes be acceptable, but Biblepay seems highly deceptive.
For example, you say "10% of the emission goes to sponsoring Orphans, with provable contributions," but:

 - 10% of the monthly emission should be somewhere around 6 million coins, but the monthly trade volume tends to be
only slightly higher than this, which is unbelievable if you're actually selling the coins in order to make donations.

 - This 10% goes to a hardcoded non-multisig address with no explanation.

 - "THE COIN HAS RPC COMMANDS THAT PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED" is completely false.
The RPC command just totals up all of the payments to the hardcoded address.
What happens after the coins go to that address is unexplained.

 - There is no non-profit registration, receipts for donations, any info about the people who are supposedly facilitating donations, etc.
 
Biblepay looks like a generic coin with hardcoded dev subsidy plus some probably-totally-fabricated marketing about orphans.


Yes, I sent him a PM explaining the reality of how reputable we are and he didnt reply which gives me the impression he is too lazy to do any due diligence.

Anyway, each of his points are mildly to grossly inaccurate which should be frowned upon by a service person collecting revenue for services from branches of coins that affect our market share.

Theymos:
 - 10% of the monthly emission should be somewhere around 6 million coins, but the monthly trade volume tends to be
only slightly higher than this, which is unbelievable if you're actually selling the coins in order to make donations.

Rob:
This is completely incorrect.  Our average trade volume was $6300 per day until c-cex went on vacation, and all you have to do is look at the volume on the date we sold the coins (which is provided at accountability.biblepay.org) and you will always see the coins were sold, and more volume.

Theymos: - This 10% goes to a hardcoded non-multisig address with no explanation.
Rob: Incorrect.  All of our expenses are sent to a non-hardcoded address in a superblock by the person listed that "handled" that monthly expense and all are documented with receipts at accountability.biblepay.org and reconcile to the totals in the exec contributions command.

Theymos: - "THE COIN HAS RPC COMMANDS THAT PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED" is completely false.
The RPC command just totals up all of the payments to the hardcoded address.
What happens after the coins go to that address is unexplained.

- This is 100% incorrect again.  All of our payments always have and still are completely documented with backup paperwork.  Our contributions were audited up to June from Ginger (compassion) to Mike-T - who confirmed the totals to a point in time (around $120,000 at the time).  Therefore now you can provably confirm all the expenses were audited and roll up to the wallet checkpoint date.

Theymos: Biblepay looks like a generic coin with hardcoded dev subsidy plus some probably-totally-fabricated marketing about orphans.
Rob: No actually we don't look generic at all, with our PODC cancer mining algo, POBH cpu-mining heat-algo and decentralized governance and orphan sponsorships.



Why don't you invite him to post in our thread and challenge even one point and we will prove him wrong every time, and then lets ask him why we cant advertise a Christian charity that is helping 339 orphans every month?

2694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 13, 2018, 01:23:49 AM


An orphanage from India, Brynn Children Home, has been in contact with me over Facebook, I think they will be creating a proposal soon!
https://www.facebook.com/Brynn-Children-Home-1668615016742705/

This is exciting, however we are struggling this month to make our charity payments, so lets see how we do towards the end of the month with the compassion bill.  9 million bbp might not cover our existing 309 monthly orphans, and if we have a deficit this month I would recommend pulling in the horns and possibly spending all of our money on compassion next month - maybe we have to tell them to wait 6 months.

Ill be very cognizant about voting No for new proposals, especially with this months BLOOM payment taking about 20% of our charity budget.

2695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 12, 2018, 03:31:56 PM
But I still am seriously considering a feature that erases the chainstate and blocks and resyncs if a node is out of sync for more than an hour (which can be disabled if a user doesnt want it on).

Great idea!

2696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 12, 2018, 01:28:34 PM
About POW difficulty probably some kind of failure or who from the skilled hackers managed to bypass protection and lured tokens to themselves. I'm also interested in knowing the reason for such a decision and what caused this failure for all who are interested in this important information.


There is not a path in the wallets business logic that allows 'skilled hackers to bypass protection', however, as snat said this morning there were live forks, and we now had to restart our wallets to get on the right chain.

But the most accurate question is, why do we have to delete blocks and chainstate to recover our wallets?  Thats a question for me, why does the wallet favor the chain with the least work, after working 4 weeks perfectly?

I believe the answer has something to do with our strict CPID mining rules.  When a fork is a true alternative (IE lets say we have two baby forks at 5000 diff on block N+1), those two forks have two different sets of possible CPIDs.  Our wallet being inherited from dash will not reconsider a block to be good after its marked bad.  I think we need a feature programmed in that allows us to recover in this situation to the chain with the most work.



Rob,

All my wallets works perfectly, without restart. 1.1.3.8 (64-bit) version (win7 64bit) about 30day+


win version works perfect 40day+ .... but 2 masternodes crashed again= any problems with masternode chain=it happened that jumped to other chain

If a Sanc crashes we need a volunteer to start the sanc like this:

valgrind ./biblepayd
or
valgrind ./biblepay-qt

and tell us the line # of the crash.

sudo apt get install valgrind




2697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 12, 2018, 01:18:14 AM
Thanks, that brings up a good point also.  My regular wallets (3) were on the right chain but 30% of my sanctuaries were on the wrong chain so I rebuilt the blocks on those and resynced properly.  Its something to consider that todays problem was due to sanc rules.  It is interesting to note that the Sancs re-memorize the PODC data once every 4 hours right before doing the internal 'exec dcc' command (that is where they try to come to a podc quorum).  But I still am seriously considering a feature that erases the chainstate and blocks and resyncs if a node is out of sync for more than an hour (which can be disabled if a user doesnt want it on).


My clients thought they were still current.. so not sure how that rule would help

As for the delete/rebuild interesting idea.  There is still the oddity of when you do that, the PODC key seems to get lost until you re-start the client.

I'm guessing the scanning routine isn't looking for/updating the key info when it gets to that part of the blockchain.
(just a guess, since I have not looked into it really)


I've done it several times and gotten the unable to sign cpid error.
On the 'trigger' to delete the chain and restart, there are ways to do that.  The rule would be something like: an hour has passed since the last cold boot, and the difficulty is less than (say 1000) POW, and a fork exists (IE getchaintips > 1) and the longer chain contains a bad block.  Then we restart the wallet with an -erasechain parameter.

As far as the memorizeprayers function, just delete SAN/prayers_prod  for now and restart.  Ill have to make it honor a startup where the best block height is less than the prayer height in the file.  Correct, its not checking that right now, thats a bug.


2698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 11, 2018, 11:23:16 PM
All,  Jaap has paid Coinexchange.IO for our new exchange listing fee (2 BTC) - that was the entire treasury.

We will be listed on August 15th.

2699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 11, 2018, 11:21:18 PM
About POW difficulty probably some kind of failure or who from the skilled hackers managed to bypass protection and lured tokens to themselves. I'm also interested in knowing the reason for such a decision and what caused this failure for all who are interested in this important information.


There is not a path in the wallets business logic that allows 'skilled hackers to bypass protection', however, as snat said this morning there were live forks, and we now had to restart our wallets to get on the right chain.

But the most accurate question is, why do we have to delete blocks and chainstate to recover our wallets?  Thats a question for me, why does the wallet favor the chain with the least work, after working 4 weeks perfectly?

I believe the answer has something to do with our strict CPID mining rules.  When a fork is a true alternative (IE lets say we have two baby forks at 5000 diff on block N+1), those two forks have two different sets of possible CPIDs.  Our wallet being inherited from dash will not reconsider a block to be good after its marked bad.  I think we need a feature programmed in that allows us to recover in this situation to the chain with the most work.



Rob,

All my wallets works perfectly, without restart. 1.1.3.8 (64-bit) version (win7 64bit) about 30day+




Thanks, that brings up a good point also.  My regular wallets (3) were on the right chain but 30% of my sanctuaries were on the wrong chain so I rebuilt the blocks on those and resynced properly.  Its something to consider that todays problem was due to sanc rules.  It is interesting to note that the Sancs re-memorize the PODC data once every 4 hours right before doing the internal 'exec dcc' command (that is where they try to come to a podc quorum).  But I still am seriously considering a feature that erases the chainstate and blocks and resyncs if a node is out of sync for more than an hour (which can be disabled if a user doesnt want it on).

2700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BiblePay | Masternodes | Sanctuaries | POBH - ASIC Resistant | 10% ORPHANS on: August 11, 2018, 08:49:41 PM
About POW difficulty probably some kind of failure or who from the skilled hackers managed to bypass protection and lured tokens to themselves. I'm also interested in knowing the reason for such a decision and what caused this failure for all who are interested in this important information.


There is not a path in the wallets business logic that allows 'skilled hackers to bypass protection', however, as snat said this morning there were live forks, and we now had to restart our wallets to get on the right chain.

But the most accurate question is, why do we have to delete blocks and chainstate to recover our wallets?  Thats a question for me, why does the wallet favor the chain with the least work, after working 4 weeks perfectly?

I believe the answer has something to do with our strict CPID mining rules.  When a fork is a true alternative (IE lets say we have two baby forks at 5000 diff on block N+1), those two forks have two different sets of possible CPIDs.  Our wallet being inherited from dash will not reconsider a block to be good after its marked bad.  I think we need a feature programmed in that allows us to recover in this situation to the chain with the most work.

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