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2681  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: exchanges and fiat withdrawals on: December 13, 2017, 02:59:01 AM
I can't speak from first-hand experience, but in general at least the more trustworthy exchanges shouldn't cause you any problems when withdrawing larger sums of fiat money. Assuming you passed their verification process -- eg. Kraken has a multi-tiered verification system, where you are subject to different withdrawal limits depending on how much personal information and documents you provide them to proof your identity and residency. It is always a good idea to take care of verification first, lest you get money stuck in an exchange due to issues with the verification process.

Also note that local regulations may require you to pre-announce larger incoming international bank transfers to your bank and / or local authorities.
2682  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: BTC to BCH from coinbase to bitmain. PLEASE HELP on: December 13, 2017, 02:32:39 AM
Coinbase won't be able to help you, since once the coins leave Coinbase's wallet they are out of their control. At this point the only ones that can help you recover your coins is Bitmain. Maybe try reaching out to them on Twitter if the regular support channels don't work.
2683  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Politics behind Bitcoin development? on: December 12, 2017, 05:29:55 PM
From a purely technical viewpoint the consensus is based on mining hashrate as mentioned in the post above.

its not mining hashrate

for instance imagine you owned a pool with DOUBLE the hashrate of the entire network. but your codebase of your pool node wanted to change a rule..
all that will happen is that your blocks will get rejected by the network because their desired rules are not your rules.
you could mine billions of blocks but only you would retain them and everyone else would reject them. thus  you have made your own altcoin that only you hold

consensus is about the NODES that accept the rules. hash power has nothing to do with the RULES. the hashpower is only about protecting the DATA from people manipulating the data retrospectively. EG for someone to make a block that does not contain certain transactions (attempted refund) from a block in 2012. then that pool needs to also recreate every block after that to get uptodate to todays blockheight. and the rules must match to not get rejected.

in short hashrate does not determine the rules. it just makes changing old data harder

Excellent point, nodes are also a very important part of the Bitcoin ecosystem, which is why keeping a lean blockchain is important for decentralization. In practice there's nothing stopping miners from mining on a fork with poor node density though, as propagation will still find a way one way or another. It's just that network stability is likely to suffer, in addition to increased centralization towards the network segments with the best access to full nodes.


the politics of CORE controlling the rules.. is the thing people are avoiding talking about. because its core that set the rules and push people to download their wallet as oppose to other wallets. thus they control the development and they control the rules. and yes they do and have bribed big names to get their way. (many free all inclusive weekend breaks, jobs, bonuses, freebies and more)

The market has decided in favor of Bitcoin Core's design philosophy and development approach over that of its hardfork competitors. Anyone who believes that BTC's market support is only caused by market manipulation and astroturfing should rejoice over the possibility on getting their hands on cheap hardfork coins until the market finally decides to wake up.
2684  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if bitcoin miners stop? on: December 12, 2017, 04:01:39 PM
I heard that bitcoin is controlled by we users and miners,
so I wonder what would happen if all the bitcoin miners stop mining bitcoin?.

I'm curious to know what would happen to bitcoin. Undecided

The network would grind to a halt, no new transactions would get processed anymore and the market would get batshit insane due to downward pressure caused by the mining crisis and upward pressure due to the lack of liquidity caused by no new coins being able to enter exchanges.

It's an unlikely scenario though, as someone would always be willing to mine bitcoins since the less miners there are, the more profitable it becomes for the individual miner.
2685  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Politics behind Bitcoin development? on: December 12, 2017, 03:55:39 PM
Who are the people that participate in the "consensus"?  How are these votes cast?

From a purely technical viewpoint the consensus is based on mining hashrate as mentioned in the post above.

From a practical viewpoint it's the market that decides. The more people believe in the viability of a hardfork, the more people will buy into this hardfork as opposed to the other side of the fork. The more people buy into one side of the fork over another, the higher the profitability of said fork, the more hashrate you will find on the respective side of the fork.


What happens to dissenting voices that don't want a fork? 

They are free to continue mining on the old fork and / or to buy coins as issued by the old fork.


Of course if either side of a fork has a bad codebase the fork may still fail regardless of market sentiment -- as has happened with B2X, as was the reason for the BTG delay.
2686  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why is litecoin faster than bitcoin? What are the tradeoffs? on: December 12, 2017, 01:27:58 AM

It sounds like you're saying that Bitcoin is, from a practical perspective, inferior in all ways that matter to users of a currency:

- Nearly quadruple the blockchain formation speed
- Equivalent security

What am I missing?
From a technical standpoint, you are correct. Users use bitcoin because of higher merchant acceptance, and higher exchange liquidity. 

So why hasn't bitcoin adopted these improvements? I don't understand...

Because of aforementioned orphan issue and the increased rate of blockchain growth which would subsequently increase the risk of centralization further down the road. Additionally it would have required a hardfork, which back in the day wasn't treated as lightheartedly as nowadays.

In the end it breaks down to different design philosophies. The beauty of open source and the free market of cryptocurrencies is that you can always choose to abandon one cryptocurrency over the other -- or hold a selection of cryptocurrencies based on their respective merits.
2687  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: unconfirmed blockchain transaction.. 5 days on: December 12, 2017, 01:04:22 AM
http://blockchain.info/address/1DSzYV9MFxpPCKgPqsoEm99TF2n4Fjzmgq

sent one 5 days ago, and sent one a couple hours ago to same address.. can anyone give me advice on how to get the confirmed? sorry im a n00b

Try accelerating the transaction you want to succeed using the ViaBTC transaction accelerator:

https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

They have a limited hourly contingent of transactions they accelerate for free, but if you submit your transaction at the beginning of an hour you should be able to get your transaction accelerated, ie. it will be confirmed the next time ViaBTC finds a block.
2688  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is Bitcoin practically Anonymous (or Decentralized) ? I know, please read fully. on: December 12, 2017, 12:36:30 AM
[...]

1. Once an entity gets a Bitcoin address it's permanent to that entity

Not necessarily, in theory you can also sell / buy the private keys themselves, without a public transaction on the blockchain. Of course you'll have to trust your counterparty and forgo the security of the blockchain in that case though.


[...]

So if I use today's sophisticated Pattern Detection and ML, AI algos (I am not well versed), can't I actually map the physical entity to the Bitcoin address and know who that person is ? [As it is 1:1 mapping]

So I guess even if we are ready to adapt bitcoin for currency we can't guarantee no one can know who send money to whom, right ??

Yes! A well known issue that is already practically exploited -- or utilized, depending on your point of view:

http://fortune.com/2017/08/22/irs-tax-cheats-bitcoin-chainalysis/


Also people are bound to die and then transactions with the bitcoin address with will stop that's also a very strong evidence that it was that person then (well we can't hang you :p). But even if one person's identity is disclosed then it will be very easy to determine the other party involved (who may be alive) as this person did transactions with certain people in certain order right ? So by elimination, we can actually know which person is which, atleast for Billionaires ??

In theory yes, in practice coins are also lost, burned or used for transactions that are never actually bound to real world identities or physical goods.


Note that there are alternative cryptocurrencies that focus on the anonymity aspect, more or less viably, with varying up and downsides. If that topic interests you, I suggest looking into Monero, Zcash and Byteball Blackbytes for different approaches on achieving anonymity.
2689  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How far can Bitcoin go? on: December 11, 2017, 11:59:32 PM
With gold's total market cap being estimated at USD 7.8 trillion I guess the upper limit of BTC's price would be around USD 370,000 (at USD's current purchasing power) simply because I can not fathom all of BTC to be worth more than all the gold in the world. However there is a lot of fiat currency in the world, all of which gets issued more or less out of thin air, trying to more or less successfully reflect the effective wealth of global economies. So relative to fiat the sky is the limit.

Then again for all we know people could just lose interest in cryptocurrencies as fast as they have gained it, and in 10 years time we'll be shaking our heads at our own naivité while trading coins that are worth only fractions of current levels. Not that I expect such a thing, but reality rarely turns out as expected.
2690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase, the forks and the new coins? on: December 10, 2017, 10:57:40 PM
Thank you, in this case if they do not add support for the previous/upcoming coins you are actually losing them. Good to know,maybe they have to note this somewhere so people can be informed.

Oh they did, far and wide.

Even with the Bitcoin Cash hardfork they told people over and over again that they would not support it and that people should withdraw their coins from Coinbase, should they choose to split their holdings. Alas many people completely ignored Coinbase's announcement, only to accuse Coinbase of thievery despite the exchange acting exactly as advertised, forcing Coinbase to offer eventual BCH support.

Never assume an exchange will provide you with fork coins, especially if they explicitly state that they won't do so. Anyone can hardfork Bitcoin, it's not an exchange's duty to extend their platform each time a new alt enters the market place.
2691  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin Be Short? on: December 10, 2017, 10:45:27 PM
[...]

I also read somewhere that the likely people that'll short bitcoin are miners. Now tell me, why would a miner do that?

Most likely as a hedge against falling Bitcoin prices.

If Bitcoin prices were fall to a level where mining stops being profitable, they could use Bitcoin futures to cushion the blow. Pretty much how commodity futures are used to hedge the market risk of whatever commodity you produce or require -- which was, if I'm not mistaken, the initial rationale behind futures trading before it became a playground for speculators and investment bankers.
2692  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I too late to join the party? on: December 10, 2017, 03:54:36 PM
Hey guys. Finally decided to get me some coins. I have about 10k to spare. any recommendations?

1) Learn how to securely store your coins and get a hardware wallet such as a Ledger Nano S or a Trezor. Not getting hacked is half the battle, the other battle is not getting scammed out of your coins, which brings me to:

2) Avoid ICOs and HYIPs like a plague.

3) I personally mostly stay away from alts since even the more innovative ones have failed to fully convince me (eg. ETH doesn't scale well either and has insecure smart contracts, BCH is just BTC with less features and bigger blocks, IOTA currently requires a central authority, XRP is fully centralized to begin with, LTC is just BTC with shorter block times and a different hashing algorithm...) but it might be a different story for you. Long term BTC has been the most reliable cryptocurrency so far, so I'd recommend starting with that.
2693  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with trading regret? on: December 10, 2017, 02:42:24 AM
I have a ton of regret for not buying Bitcoin when it was way cheaper, and I put my money into a bunch of other bad altcoins.

Also, I sometimes make moves, for example I sold Litecoin the other day at $90 before it went up to $150.  Major regret there.

Have you experienced regret with trading before?  What do you tell yourself to help ease it?

Take your lesson from it, move on and try to avoid repeating your past mistakes. Beating yourself up over bad trades or trying to trade your losses back will only make matters worse.

Don't fret about falling short on trading for a new ATH, because calling the top correctly is next to impossible. Most of those that do, simply get lucky, whether they know it or not.

You can't control the market, but you can control your emotions. If you sell, try to find the sweet spot where you won't regret that you didn't sell more if the price falls and where you won't regret that you didn't keep more if the price further increases. And vice versa for buying, of course. Additionally, don't buy anything just because the price went up. If the only reason for you to buy into a project is because the price went up, you'll feel double the pain when the price goes down.

We've all made bad decisions. We've all regretted doing (or not doing) a trade. The important part is to act smarter the next time around. Good luck!
2694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Steam is no longer supporting Bitcoin on: December 06, 2017, 11:25:52 PM
The reason it seems steam has stopped using it because it is to volatile atm man! by the time the transfer goes through the price has changed so people are being charged twice in a lot of cases so in till the transactions are quicker or the price has become more stable steam will stay out ^^

Let's be real here, although volatility has been cited it definitely is the smaller issue. The transaction fees are currently too prohibitive for Steam purchases, especially since they strike twice once refunds are considered. At least lightning network seems to be progressing well, it is indeed much needed right now.


[...]

What do you think the largest game platforms stop using Bitcoin?
And how it will affect the Bitcoin acceptance on others services?

I wouldn't be surprised if other services soon follow suit as well, but it won't be because of Steam. I guess Steam is more heavily affected by transaction fees than some of the other services, due to relatively small purchase amounts mixed with a very permissive refund system.
2695  Economy / Economics / Re: TIME FRAME TO REACH $25,000 on: December 06, 2017, 11:07:45 PM
Bitcoin is gaining a lot of attention for breaking the 10.000$ barrier. This is causing new investors to flock to the markets, which in turn gives higher volume and price. Speculative assets like Bitcoin's price is driven by volume, and a higher volume usually gives higher price. If we assume that this effect is exponential, which I think is fair, then 25.000 should be not very far away. I'm thinking 2018, actually.

January 2018, from the looks of it right now.

It seems like the market has discarded any bit of sanity left and is going batshit insane. That's going to be one bumpy ride once the market sobers up, let's see if USD 10,000,- holds once correction comes.
2696  Economy / Economics / Re: TIME FRAME TO REACH $25,000 on: December 06, 2017, 01:36:14 PM
[... classic bubble graph ...]

Depends on where you think we are on the curve..

Judging on the high increase of media attention I'd say we're in the mania phase right now. The interesting part being that in the case of BTC we are seeing the public entering the market way before institutional investors, so who knows where we really are. And especially, how institutional investors will shape the market.

But maybe... just maybe... we're not in a bubble after all. Yet.
2697  Economy / Speculation / Re: For all Europeans: BTC 10000 euro on: December 06, 2017, 12:59:24 PM
You glorious bastards.

I can't believe 2017 ended in not only USD 10k,- but also EUR 10k,- being broken. If the price now manages to hold itself above USD 10k,- / EUR 10k,- for a couple of months, BTC is primed to become the new gold during the next recession.
2698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Forks really good for BTC ? on: December 05, 2017, 01:09:36 PM
If you're an alt coiner that is unhappy with BTC but don't want to invest additional money it's a godsend. You now potentially have an alt that does everything you were missing from BTC without spending a single Satoshi.

Current hardforks being mostly pump-and-dump schemes without bringing anything new to the table is a negative, of course, but I don't see much harm done as long as the community stays clear of them for the most part. The crypto community has survived so many "investment" schemes that it really doesn't matter anymore. Just be careful out there.

In the end I still think that any real innovation will either become part of the core implementation or as part of a wholly new alt altogether. I don't see much input coming from hardforks unfortunately, but that might change in the future.
2699  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the 21 milion of bitcoin a real limit? on: December 05, 2017, 12:10:32 PM
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- is it a good thing? I think it is but it looks like BTC will become more a commodity and not just a payment system

For now, everything is OK and we are not facing any problems, but when all bitcoins are being mined many expect troubles.
Miners will be the first to be effected since there will be nomore block rewards and you can imagine the negative effects of miners quitting mining
due to low profitability. Consequently, the Bitcoin network will be more centralized.

How so? In 10-20 years transaction fees will already be a major part of mining income. Which means that miners have more than half a century to adjust to mining for transaction fees instead for block rewards.


- is it a good thing? I think it is but it looks like BTC will become more a commodity and not just a payment system
a currency doesn't have to be unlimited to be able to perform as a payment system!
you are comparing bitcoin to fiat (which is unlimited) and that is why you are confused.

also you are missing the fact that there are 8 decimal places after 1 bitcoin which makes it bigger for usage in case price was too high. it is something like an ingot of gold versus 1 gram of gold or gold dust for example.

It's not quite that simple. The amount of decimal places doesn't stop Bitcoin from being a deflationary currency. The way we understand economics today, inflationary (fiat) currencies are necessary to allow for economic growth via credit. The latter is up for debate of course, but human history seems to agree. It doesn't detract from Bitcoin's value either way though.
2700  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is it time to think about decimal precision ? on: December 05, 2017, 11:51:45 AM
I like your bullishness but I think we're still far off from BTC hitting 1 million, ie. I think there are more pressing matters that should be solved first.

6 months go I would have agreed absolutely, but it's pretty crazy out there. It may take 5 good years to get another fork in place.

As I mention in the latter part of my comment, I'm rather positive about a precision update being less debatable than a block size increase. On the other hand you're not wrong. It's indeed something that could be worth looking at rather sooner than later. But in my opinion 5 years for getting a hardfork in place is still way too pessimistic. But who knows, there may be some nuances to the problem that are not obvious at a first glance.


Without having a proper scaling solution widely deployed anything below 0.0001 BTC is effectively impossible to transact. In my opinion thinking about increasing decimal precision will only make sense once we're close to making dust transactable again.

Lightning is round the corner. Next year it will start being used properly. I think we're very close now. And there is nothing blocking it's implementation. It's definitely coming.

I also think that lightning is very close now. But the timeframe from "very close" to production ready to the actual deployment and real life usage may still be 1-2 years away. I will be gladly proven wrong though.


Once we're there my educated guess would be that such a fork could be deployed fairly undisputed, as I don't see any reasons for contentious camps about decimal precision arising, making it easier and thus faster to deploy. Then again crypto is a weird place, so who knows what counter arguments against an increase of decimal precision arise. It would be interesting to see how much the effective impact on block size would be, for example.

From memory there was a very specific data related reason why bitcoin was capped at 21 million.

[...]

The technical reason is the size of the integer datatype that Bitcoin is currently using, OP is suggesting to use a larger integer datatype instead Smiley


Once we're there my educated guess would be that such a fork could be deployed fairly undisputed, as I don't see any reasons for contentious camps about decimal precision arising...

Decimal Point Rising....

A movie title?

nice catch Grin


[...]

Can it be done as a soft-fork ?

I too would love an answer on that question.
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