God always existed. There is no way to understand this clearly, because we are so used to the idea of having a beginning and an end.
Prove that! (PS: don't put the "cause & effect" stuff on the table, it won't prove that your god exists!) If you don't understand that God exists, how are you ever going to accept any proof of any of his attributes? What you are really saying is, that you are going to pick and choose which scientific laws and facts you are willing to accept, and which you are not. If you won't accept all scientific facts, especially the scientific fact that scientific theories are not know to be fact, you are intentionally deluding yourself. This is called self-delusion. Did he wrote the bible? Is it a work of your god's hands? Nope. It is a work of fiction made by humans to control other humans by deception. There you go again, talking about Someone that you don't believe exists as though He does exist. First, learn how to understand science law so that you can see the proof that God DOES exist. Then come back and ask your questions about things that He does. If you read the basic science papers about how old the universe and earth are, they essentially say (and some directly say) that they don't know.
You know you're bullshitting already, don't you? Read some real scientific papers, not that funny fairy tales book called "the bible": https://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_age.htmlOr maybe you think you're smarter than hundreds of scientists around the globe? Do you? Your god called you "stupid", do you remember? There are many, many scientific laws. Scientists can't juggle them all in their heads at once to determine the truths of science. They have their excuse, sort of. But you don't have any excuse. I show you the science laws that prove the existence of God, and you don't accept science. Further, you show how stupid you are by claiming that God says that I am stupid, when you don't even believe that God exists, and when you can't even find the place where God says, "BADecker is stupid." So, not only are you stupid, but you are a liar, and a deceiver, and a disruptor of all that is good and right. That is not evolution except that one means "change" when he says "evolution." The ability of the flu virus to thwart vaccines is a protection that god built into nature, and evidence of the weakness of man to be able to do what he wants.  Please, do not pontificate about things you cannot, or maybe you don't want to, understand. This only makes you look dumber everytime. Okay. Regarding the changes in the flu virus you noted above, cause and effect rule in everything. This means that the changes were programmed into the universe from the Beginning. |
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I'm not sure which bunch is more delusional. Flat earth people, young earth people or salivation in Jesus people. I still can't make up my mind.  Atheists are self-delusional. At least flat earth people and theists attempt to believe the facts and laws of science when they find them. |
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I'm not sure which bunch is more delusional. Flat earth people, young earth people or salivation in Jesus people. I still can't make up my mind. Atheists are people with a good education. If people do not understand the reasons for the events he must try to understand it. Religions tell stories and people believe them. Atheistic scientists tell stories that they call Big Bang Theory and Black Hole Theory. People believe that these things are truth when they are not known to be truth. Because of this, science has religion built right into it. Try to understand the science facts and laws behind the proof that God exists. Start with the list of things that I say in the posts below. Expand your research across the Internet to see that nobody has proven the scientific laws that I show to be wrong. Perhaps you will come to understand that God really does exist. After you understand this, then you can start to have faith in the things that God says, rather than the things said by atheistic scientists who don't really know what they are talking about. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380 |
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You answered your own question. I don't believe in God for exactly the same reason you don't believe in winged horses.
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." - George Carlin BADecker is a psychiatric case, you cannot argue with him... he sees his god everywhere and in everything, maybe even after he poops, looking down in the toilet.  So you are claiming that you are blind, because you don't see God everywhere, even though He is everywhere. Where is everywhere? Empty words again ! Please provide one to prove the fact of its existence. I am sure that no such facts. Thank you for accepting the reality that God exists. Proof for Proof. Prove that He doesn't exist everywhere. |
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What are the kinds of arguments for God? It is not. Has never been evidence of its existence. Only uneducated people can believe in his existence.
They call it faith. Faith is the exact opposite of science. Science proves events in a way that is backed by proofs, it is called " scientific method". Faith simply doesn't bring any proof, of any kind. You cannot explain a thing? Have faith! Indoctrinated pot-heads, like BADecker and his clones, claim that "Everything has been made by god. God exists because the bible tells us so. Blah blah blah..." https://i.imgur.com/vSK26PP.jpgWrong. Scientists have faith in what they believe scientifically. Then they find the proof. Then they tell other people. The other people have faith that the scientists are not lying. Most scientists want to keep science pure. That's why they call the scientific theories as they should be called... theories... because nobody knows that they are factual. It isn't the fault of the scientists that a bunch of self-deluded atheist jokers take theories like Big Bang and Black Hole, and state that they are fact, when even the scientists are stating that they are not known to be fact, by calling them theories. You self-deluded atheists, trying to destroy the work and credibility of the scientists by stating that their theories are facts when nobody know it. Yet, when someone shows you the facts of scientific laws, such as how science proves the existence of God, your self-delusion makes you not believe it even though the proof is shown right in your faces. Go ahead. Continue your false religion that you are making for yourselves. But know this, your eternal destruction is impending because of it. |
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@BADecker.....
If you value faith over science, then I ask you to prove it.
The next time you get sick, go to a church instead of a hospital.
I don't know what it means to prove it, that I value faith over science. I can give you the reason, however. God tells us in the Bible that faith is important, but He doesn't say this about science. Yet, when Jesus says, that not one jot or one tittle will fall from the Law until everything is fulfilled, He is talking about science being important to some extent. You choose to accept Science is the authority when it meets your needs. The rest of the time you "try" to show your faith in your God by stating he is the all powerful. Basically..... you have lost all credibility in your arguments. What are the kinds of arguments for God? It is not. Has never been evidence of its existence. Only uneducated people can believe in his existence. Educated people have KNOWLEDGE of God's existence. They know it by scientific proofs and nature's evidence as shown here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 + https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133 + https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40 + https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. Educated atheists only have make-believe education. Why? Because they have a false faith that God DOESN'T exist. |
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@BADecker.....
If you value faith over science, then I ask you to prove it.
The next time you get sick, go to a church instead of a hospital.
I don't know what it means to prove it, that I value faith over science. I can give you the reason, however. God tells us in the Bible that faith is important, but He doesn't say this about science. Yet, when Jesus says, that not one jot or one tittle will fall from the Law until everything is fulfilled, He is talking about science being important to some extent. You choose to accept Science is the authority when it meets your needs. The rest of the time you "try" to show your faith in your God by stating he is the all powerful. Basically..... you have lost all credibility in your arguments. You choose to make statements about me which are not true. In fact, they are so false that you can't even give examples. You didn't lose credibility. You simply never had any. |
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You answered your own question. I don't believe in God for exactly the same reason you don't believe in winged horses.
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." - George Carlin BADecker is a psychiatric case, you cannot argue with him... he sees his god everywhere and in everything, maybe even after he poops, looking down in the toilet. The most interesting this is what religious fanatics provoked the hatred of atheists. I believe that atheism is the doctrine and religion is nonsense. Your faith is not based in science if you believe the atheism doctrine. Rather, by saying that theism is doctrine, you are confirming that atheism is religion. And in your first sentence, you are stating that atheists provoke the hatred of each other. |
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You answered your own question. I don't believe in God for exactly the same reason you don't believe in winged horses.
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." - George Carlin BADecker is a psychiatric case, you cannot argue with him... he sees his god everywhere and in everything, maybe even after he poops, looking down in the toilet. So you are claiming that you are blind, because you don't see God everywhere, even though He is everywhere. |
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I have only one question for you: do you believe that flying horses exist? If not, why not? If yes, double your medication and go to church. I believe that flying horses exist because I have seen pictures of them being loaded onto airplanes. I don't know that this is fact, because I never experienced it in person. I know God exists for several major reasons. I don't have to believe He exists. 1. Science proves God exists. Check out the links I provided above. 2. Nature shows that God exists. 3. God has attached Himself to my heart and soul; He holds me. Neither science, nature, or my relationship with God explain more than a little about Him. But they explain enough that I can have faith that He is good and loving, and that He cares for me and you. He would care for you even more if you acknowledged Him. you know what I mean. Do you believe in horses that have wings and can fly like birds? Do you believe such horses exist? If not, why not? If yes, go to church. No, I don't believe winged horse like you are suggesting exist. But there is no reason to. The real question is, why do you NOT believe God exists in the face of the proof and the evidence. Go to church. You answered your own question. I don't believe in God for exactly the same reason you don't believe in winged horses. Wrong. I don't believe in winged horses because there isn't any evidence that they exist. You don't believe in God in the face of evidence and proof that He exists. I believe according to the truth. You believe according to the way you want, truth or not. |
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Who made your parents... and their parents... etc., all the way back to the Beginning? There is no evidence that suggests that evolution/abiogenesis works. There is probability proof that it can't work - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0. Of course, maybe you don't really exist, and all of us who have seen your posts in bitcointalk, really have active imaginations that work together. And on the flip side, if God made us who made God. And if God has always existed then perhaps the energy and building blocks required to create everything have always existed, add billions of years into the mix and you end up with us the human race for a fleeting moment of cosmic time. As for evidence of evolution, even the common flu virus is proof of the theory at a basic level (which is why last years flu jab wont work the following year) God always existed. There is no way to understand this clearly, because we are so used to the idea of having a beginning and an end. Perhaps this and perhaps that. Here is the strait of it. The earth and universe are a little over 6,000 years old; God says it in the Bible - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm. If you read the basic science papers about how old the universe and earth are, they essentially say (and some directly say) that they don't know. That is not evolution except that one means "change" when he says "evolution." The ability of the flu virus to thwart vaccines is a protection that god built into nature, and evidence of the weakness of man to be able to do what he wants. |
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You would think BADlogic would of figured out by now that telling people they are going to burn in hell, doesn't persuade them into joining his cult. Quite the opposite effect in fact.  Indeed. It's time all you religious fanatics out there realized that no means no!!!! Good idea. It's time that all you anti-God religious fanatics wake up to the fact that nature around us powerfully shows the existence of God. Once you acknowledge God's existence, then you will have opportunity to realize that He speaks truth, and believe in what He says. No it does not. You suffer from a delusion. That is what is happening. The atheist delusion, in simple terms is this. The atheist attempts to maintain enough God-strength and God-understanding within himself/herself, to be able to say that God doesn't exist. Not sure you understand what being an atheist really means. The question is God is not even a valid question worth answering. I am more concerned with the damage this mental illness causes to societies and humanity in general. Okay. You simply happen to bigoted against God for some reason. Why? I am not sure you understand. God is not something I consider worth thinking about. I am not against God just like I am not against Unicorns. What I am against is burning people at the stake because they believe in red Unicorns not the blue ones. I am against parents teaching their kids that the Unicorns that make furniture are the really good Unicorns that help us and the ones that have red dots on their tails are the evil ones. I am against people killing other people because their unicorn told them to do so. As written in the sand by some really ancient Unicorns. I am against parents teaching kids that Unicorns created men out of dirt. That Unicorns created millions of other animal species, all planets, all solar systems, all galaxies etc. in 6 days. I am against people who say that there are invisible Unicorns in my heart, in my bones that Unicorns are all around me etc. That is what I am against. You sound a lot like God. He is against many of the things that you talk about. God enjoys complete truth. Why would you be so disinterested in the fact that He caused you to come into existence, and the fact that He holds you alive, and the fact that it is He filling you with joy whenever you experience joy? hmm. You know how people are made right? I came into existence because my father impregnated my mother. Your unicorn is definitely not controlling me. Mainly because Unicorns don't exist. Who made your parents... and their parents... etc., all the way back to the Beginning? There is no evidence that suggests that evolution/abiogenesis works. There is probability proof that it can't work - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0. Of course, maybe you don't really exist, and all of us who have seen your posts in bitcointalk, really have active imaginations that work together. That is a different question. You said that God created me I told you how I was made. Just like you and millions of apes before us. I was just trying to show you that you are wrong. |
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You would think BADlogic would of figured out by now that telling people they are going to burn in hell, doesn't persuade them into joining his cult. Quite the opposite effect in fact. Indeed. It's time all you religious fanatics out there realized that no means no!!!! Good idea. It's time that all you anti-God religious fanatics wake up to the fact that nature around us powerfully shows the existence of God. Once you acknowledge God's existence, then you will have opportunity to realize that He speaks truth, and believe in what He says. No it does not. You suffer from a delusion. That is what is happening. The atheist delusion, in simple terms is this. The atheist attempts to maintain enough God-strength and God-understanding within himself/herself, to be able to say that God doesn't exist. Not sure you understand what being an atheist really means. The question is God is not even a valid question worth answering. I am more concerned with the damage this mental illness causes to societies and humanity in general. Okay. You simply happen to bigoted against God for some reason. Why? I am not sure you understand. God is not something I consider worth thinking about. I am not against God just like I am not against Unicorns. What I am against is burning people at the stake because they believe in red Unicorns not the blue ones. I am against parents teaching their kids that the Unicorns that make furniture are the really good Unicorns that help us and the ones that have red dots on their tails are the evil ones. I am against people killing other people because their unicorn told them to do so. As written in the sand by some really ancient Unicorns. I am against parents teaching kids that Unicorns created men out of dirt. That Unicorns created millions of other animal species, all planets, all solar systems, all galaxies etc. in 6 days. I am against people who say that there are invisible Unicorns in my heart, in my bones that Unicorns are all around me etc. That is what I am against. You sound a lot like God. He is against many of the things that you talk about. God enjoys complete truth. Why would you be so disinterested in the fact that He caused you to come into existence, and the fact that He holds you alive, and the fact that it is He filling you with joy whenever you experience joy? hmm. You know how people are made right? I came into existence because my father impregnated my mother. Your unicorn is definitely not controlling me. Mainly because Unicorns don't exist. Who made your parents... and their parents... etc., all the way back to the Beginning? There is no evidence that suggests that evolution/abiogenesis works. There is probability proof that it can't work - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0. Of course, maybe you don't really exist, and all of us who have seen your posts in bitcointalk, really have active imaginations that work together. |
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I have only one question for you: do you believe that flying horses exist? If not, why not? If yes, double your medication and go to church. I believe that flying horses exist because I have seen pictures of them being loaded onto airplanes. I don't know that this is fact, because I never experienced it in person. I know God exists for several major reasons. I don't have to believe He exists. 1. Science proves God exists. Check out the links I provided above. 2. Nature shows that God exists. 3. God has attached Himself to my heart and soul; He holds me. Neither science, nature, or my relationship with God explain more than a little about Him. But they explain enough that I can have faith that He is good and loving, and that He cares for me and you. He would care for you even more if you acknowledged Him. you know what I mean. Do you believe in horses that have wings and can fly like birds? Do you believe such horses exist? If not, why not? If yes, go to church. No, I don't believe winged horse like you are suggesting exist. But there is no reason to. The real question is, why do you NOT believe God exists in the face of the proof and the evidence. Go to church. |
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@BADecker.....
If you value faith over science, then I ask you to prove it.
The next time you get sick, go to a church instead of a hospital.
Religious people don'the really believe in the after life. Otherwise they would kill themselves as soon as they could, apologize to God, be forgiven and end up in heaven. We all heard about old prists fucking little boys, ans they are in no hurry to go to heaven. Religious cults are just that, cults. Members have been brainwashed. God has placed in Christians, a natural aversion to death, just like He has placed in others. However, carry it to the next step. If God wanted Christians to be with Him so much that He sent His Son to die on a cross for them, wouldn't He take Christians home to be with Him, rather than waiting until the Judgment Day? God waits, and Christians wait, so that they can convince people like you to come along and be saved, rather than being destroyed in the Judgment. Atheism is just exactly that... a religious cult. It is like a snake that doesn't have any head. At least the weak and miserable Christian cults have a Head if they believe in God. |
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@BADecker.....
If you value faith over science, then I ask you to prove it.
The next time you get sick, go to a church instead of a hospital.
I don't know what it means to prove it, that I value faith over science. I can give you the reason, however. God tells us in the Bible that faith is important, but He doesn't say this about science. Yet, when Jesus says, that not one jot or one tittle will fall from the Law until everything is fulfilled, He is talking about science being important to some extent. |
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I have only one question for you: do you believe that flying horses exist? If not, why not? If yes, double your medication and go to church. I believe that flying horses exist because I have seen pictures of them being loaded onto airplanes. I don't know that this is fact, because I never experienced it in person. I know God exists for several major reasons. I don't have to believe He exists. 1. Science proves God exists. Check out the links I provided above. 2. Nature shows that God exists. 3. God has attached Himself to my heart and soul; He holds me. Neither science, nature, or my relationship with God explain more than a little about Him. But they explain enough that I can have faith that He is good and loving, and that He cares for me and you. He would care for you even more if you acknowledged Him. |
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You would think BADlogic would of figured out by now that telling people they are going to burn in hell, doesn't persuade them into joining his cult. Quite the opposite effect in fact. Indeed. It's time all you religious fanatics out there realized that no means no!!!! Good idea. It's time that all you anti-God religious fanatics wake up to the fact that nature around us powerfully shows the existence of God. Once you acknowledge God's existence, then you will have opportunity to realize that He speaks truth, and believe in what He says. No it does not. You suffer from a delusion. That is what is happening. The atheist delusion, in simple terms is this. The atheist attempts to maintain enough God-strength and God-understanding within himself/herself, to be able to say that God doesn't exist. Not sure you understand what being an atheist really means. The question is God is not even a valid question worth answering. I am more concerned with the damage this mental illness causes to societies and humanity in general. Okay. You simply happen to bigoted against God for some reason. Why? I am not sure you understand. God is not something I consider worth thinking about. I am not against God just like I am not against Unicorns. What I am against is burning people at the stake because they believe in red Unicorns not the blue ones. I am against parents teaching their kids that the Unicorns that make furniture are the really good Unicorns that help us and the ones that have red dots on their tails are the evil ones. I am against people killing other people because their unicorn told them to do so. As written in the sand by some really ancient Unicorns. I am against parents teaching kids that Unicorns created men out of dirt. That Unicorns created millions of other animal species, all planets, all solar systems, all galaxies etc. in 6 days. I am against people who say that there are invisible Unicorns in my heart, in my bones that Unicorns are all around me etc. That is what I am against. You sound a lot like God. He is against many of the things that you talk about. God enjoys complete truth. Why would you be so disinterested in the fact that He caused you to come into existence, and the fact that He holds you alive, and the fact that it is He filling you with joy whenever you experience joy? |
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