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2701  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: December 27, 2013, 09:15:29 AM
I frequently see  lending offers at better terms then loan demands whats up with that? Is it just system lag? When i want to Lend money to open loan demands it just pops up in the offers sections and is never executed even though the loan demand is still active  Huh

Also i can't figure out how to lend at the Flash Return Rate?
2702  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 27, 2013, 09:14:54 AM
Right now the market wants to go up. Just deal with it. ATHs are much more likely before <380.

How much more likely? Smiley

Rpietila , Whats your insight for early 2014?


Let me take a stab at it. All gloom with a sprinkle of doom, 300ish or maybe 200 or maybe double/single digits
2703  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 27, 2013, 07:18:39 AM
two whales humping each other on btce?
2704  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 27, 2013, 06:28:25 AM
Why is stamp below btc-e? Even china is above stamp wtf is going even with that lingering BTC3k sell wall on btce  Huh
2705  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2013, 03:53:25 PM
New Cyprus plan is preparing as we speak on Eurozone (just a feeling that i have from mixing the puzzle )

Fiat holders have to enter as we speak or they will cry after...
Got more information about this?

He's right. Read here:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/20131212IPR30702/html/Deal-reached-on-bank-%E2%80%9Cbail-in-directive%E2%80%9D


very good article thanks for that........ i wonder if the fiat holders have read that....
i might be wrong but most of the times i had a feeling was 100% right....

the same feeling i had before 2 years to enter BTC world.......




It says
"Press release - Economic and monetary affairs − 12-12-2013 - 10:16
Parliament and Council Presidency negotiators reached a political agreement Wednesday on the draft bank recovery and resolution directive, the first step towards setting up an EU system to deal with struggling banks. This directive will introduce the “bail-in” principle by January 2016, thereby ensuring that taxpayers will not be first in line to pay for bank failures."

I am a noob, but this sounds like: People have to fear LESS that their bank-money is taken away by them (therefore less interest to put money in bitcoin, not more). (?)

You didn't understand the whole thing I guess.
Bail-in basics

The directive establishes a bail-in system which will ensure that taxpayers will be last in the line to the pay the bills of a struggling bank. In a bail-in, creditors, according to a pre-defined hierarchy, forfeit some or all of their holdings to keep the bank alive. The bail-in system will apply from 1 January 2016.


Now is it clear?  Wink

Wonder what the pre-defined hierarchy of creditors is, and how high are peoples checking accounts are on that list. So as long as you don't own any bonds or have any money in any bank you're money will be taken last?
2706  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2013, 09:40:00 AM
Just like watching paint dry
2707  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2013, 04:27:48 AM

Could be many different things. The round value makes me think there is more where that came from.

Haha what a joke fontas. Half brained manipulation attempt, at least rpietila puts some effort in his, this just hurts my brain, usually i don't even like to mention him but this WOW
2708  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 22, 2013, 04:51:15 AM
Goat back when he was poor bastard...



His first lambo  Grin
2709  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 21, 2013, 10:47:38 AM
good morning guys, so what happened last night ? I see a dump that brought us to 550 and it seems that this appeared only on stamp ....

Hmm yeah what's up with that 2.6k market sell that brought stamp to $550? Is that a glitch cause the market didn't react at all
It's typical Stamp behavior that started ever since the rally from 100. Someone dumps deep into the book and then nobody notices or cares, the bots fill in the space which never gets touched again, and it actually becomes something bullish that causes a small rally above where it started.

Interesting so someone eats up the order book with 2k coins and market doesn't react at all. Didn't see these before
2710  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 21, 2013, 10:36:12 AM
good morning guys, so what happened last night ? I see a dump that brought us to 550 and it seems that this appeared only on stamp ....

Hmm yeah what's up with that 2.6k market sell that brought stamp to $550? Is that a glitch cause the market didn't react at all
2711  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 21, 2013, 02:59:51 AM
So, this makes ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD.  BtcChina has $0 new dollars coming into its exchange. But STILL it goes up. Yeah, that makes total sense. Its like every BtcChina trader has agreed not to sell their coins (they can't even arbitrage now) and just have those that are left spend their remaining fiat on BTC to drive the price higher, one 5btc buy at a time.

Meanwhile, the fully functional, fully liquid exchanges just wait to see what China does.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

In Bitcoin World.

Think of what happened to gox with their goxbucks. Assuming most traders at btcchina were not from china and were there to trade on 0fees. Now the only way to get out of there is by buying up BTC and transferring it out
2712  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 09:52:29 AM
I can't believe I held on. I actually won over my less prudent self.

I think it helped to be on this forum. Holding out for another month.

No offense. But why hold? You could have sold @ 500-600 Euro (top was 900 Euro) and rebuy @ 320-350 Euro!
Much profit! So easy. Just place bids and wait for the panic sellers.

BTW:
We will go down at least 1 more! So don't cry if you rebuy now (after you sold below the actual price) and we drop again to a new low.

Pffft yeah i'm sure everyone in here sold at 1242USd and rebought at 455. Easy 272% profit! Sure market lost billions in cap but i'm sure everyone is a winner here. Now please do tell us of your TA/magic ball predicting tops and bottoms. Personally i just held and rebought a bit
2713  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 08:45:40 AM
Dead/dying now. Going to sleep for 15 hours. Expect some upside IF I had any successful.

Yes, I did specifically have to request a normal toilet in a five star hotel suite. They put it in the bathroom away from where I'm sleeping. I ruined a thousand dollar suit the last time I had to use one of those.

They got movable toilers there? Or is it just a chair that goes on top of the hole?

2714  Economy / Speculation / Re: Taking a loan to buy bitcoin on: December 19, 2013, 05:57:38 AM
Maybe he recognized the crash right after buying in at the top and sold for $1,100... and then rebought last night at $500. If so, he doubled his stash and should end up pretty well!

Sure, or maybe his finger slipped and instead of buying at 1200 he shorted btc at $1200?? Or maybe he won a million dollar lottery on a way to the bank to pick up his loan or maybe... Roll Eyes
2715  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2013, 02:50:06 AM
Hello from China.

So can you share the purpose of your trip there? Assuming you didn't just bring 5 suitcases of cash to Bobby Lee? Talk to your investors?
2716  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2013, 11:32:32 AM
Off to bed can't buy anymore till the fiat makes it through the banks. All in, i wanna see 800s when i wake up. Where's that quote, step away from your computer go to sleep, and you'll thank me in the morning when you need one?
2717  Economy / Speculation / Re: Taking a loan to buy bitcoin on: December 18, 2013, 08:56:43 AM
I'm thinking of getting a loan to buy more bitcoin, as I'm guessing we'll reach $10K in a few months it can be a good deal to lend at a bank against 5% anual rate

Did anyone do this before? Would like some experience advice

There have been many people in here asking about the same thing and I think it's a recipe for disaster and would not recommend it. Invest what you can afford to lose, if you become too greedy it could very well come back and bite you in the ass (and karma says it will). You will live in regret for the rest of your life. Don't do it, if bitcoin succeeds a few bitcoins will be enough to buy a house or two.

Let's say someone took a loan of $100k in september and put it into Bitcoin, he would have made about $900k minus interest in just less than 2 months. There's no going wrong here.

If I take a loan now of $100k and put it into Bitcoin, it might be worth 10x in just a few months. Worst case scenario it will bubble to $9k and back to $1k, then I would have only lost the interest on the loan. It's a winner bet to become a millionaire from just one simple move at the moment, with no losing edge in sight.

This dude is the official victim of the bitcoin mania. Thank God the forum is archived. It will be a good basis for studying market delusions.



Yeah i don't think it's possible to make a worse call
2718  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2013, 08:53:12 AM
It is all just luck, remember. Nobody can predict the future.  Grin

*clap*clap* nice play on top of the Chinese panic.
2719  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2013, 07:49:55 AM
Must...keep...above...500...to...keep...Risto...awaayyyy
2720  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2013, 12:16:56 AM
Sorry guys, but we now have an established downtrend, so I'm going to dump about ~30k coins this week.
I can't wait for the price rising anymore.

Even the Chaikin Money Flow indicator became negative today.



Awesome what luck that i was just considering picking up about 40k coins  Roll Eyes
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