It's the Mercedes flagship line, the S Klasse.

They don't get more silent than that, trust me. (okay, maybe electrical cars do )

How come other websites (like coinorama) can show historic Bid/Ask information for Bitstamp?

And how do you get your own (subset) of the Bitstamp order book then, if not via their API?

Is there really no way to get bid/ask for what is currently probably the *largest* exchange out there? :/

Don't think we're out of the bear market yet, but at least for the next few days I can see us regaining a bit of ground. Bid/ask on stamp looks extremely good, when viewed over a 1 week histogram.

Maybe I'm getting old, but this is the only car I'm really interested in.

You know, for someone I don't like, I like you quite a lot.

On an unrelated note...

This one's for Blitz. Just a screen cap from a subreddit I'm on. Note: this is *not* from r/bitcoin.

Did someone say "feedback loop"?!

Quick! Buy BUY BUY!!!

you must be new here

Not really. The US broke even and became a net exporter briefly in 2012. Still nothing compared to the big fish (Saudi Arabia, Russia), and probably won't be a permanent state either (don't know if there's already 2013 data).

Keep stroking that shriveled up US-centric, climate change denying old man cock. It'll grow again one day, I'm sure :D

In his defense, that's kind of his argument: that those of us who (luckily) got in early enough are preaching buy & hold, and while the new entrants are the bagholders.

Problem is, this response is typical for each post-ATH bear market... I hope he sticks around long enough to see that we'll see another ATH, and then another, and so on. Might take a year, though probably less, but BTC hasn't reached its final valuation yet -- not that there ever will be one, but perhaps we'll stay within an order of magnitude at least at some point

Are you sure?

I'm 100% (of what I am willing to invest in total) in BTC at this moment. This can change within a moment of course, but I have been all-in for most of the time since the December peak. My total in BTC is now about 2.4 times as high as back then as the result of trading, which makes my holdings worth expressed in USD about 40% higher than at peak (using the intraday 1d median price on Bitstamp to calculate my portfolio worth).

In other words, you can believe in those shiny little coins and not land, as you call it, "well underwater".

And you tell *me* to "land on earth again", huh?

 

Not really. Here, have a few differences:

* Total shutdown: Gox is, more or less, completely closed off as of now, at least for people requiring USD wires. Bitstamp still processes wires within 2 days on average, so fiat withdrawals continue unhindered, even when BTC withdrawals don't.

* Maturity of reaction: if you read their news item on the matter, you will see how different they handle this matter -- Gox: we're innocent! Not our fault! Devs, fix it! vs. Stamp: we're updating our software to harden it against the attack.

* Most importantly: from the publicly available knowledge, there's good reasons to believe gox lost actual user btc funds because there's evidence that they tracked success of transactions based on ID alone. We'll come back to this if it turns out stamp lost funds as well, but I highly doubt it.

tl;dr All current exchanges are run by amateurs I'd say, but gox is run by incompetent amateurs.

Hahaha, exactly the same here. I sometimes see those clusters of hidden comments (like the ones above, to which Rampion responded), and think "why did I put user XYZ on ignore again...?", click unhide, and go like "jup. that's why."


@Rampion

Good to see you in here again. And good to see you acting as a voice of reason, as always.

I will say one thing that is maybe not completely aligned to your thinking: we are still in a (pretty well established by now) bear market. If you buy in now, you're probably not going to regret it in a year from now, but alternatively, one can also bet on price still going lower.

Note, I'm not saying you shouldn't buy -- of course, everyone's buying (or trading) strategy is different. What I'm saying is, it's probably not a bad time to buy now *but* you might have to sit through another month or so of downward movement, so newcomers should be aware of that.

You and I look at the same map, and see absolutely different things. You see a web of scam coins (it seems), I see a beautiful cryptocoin network. (Disclosure: so far I own no other cryptos but BTC, but am not against buying alts in principle)

+1

People still *trade* there. Quite a few of them, actually. That they're idiots is another matter.

Gox should stay, it's naive to suggest otherwise.

Okay. But you show a (partial) order book for Bitstamp, right? Why can't you use that data to calculate bid/ask for Bitstamp?

Don't know if  OP's question is serious, but: me, for example. Admittedly, I also sold 2 days before, at around 680/690, but who in his right mind *wouldn't* buy when there's such a nice opportunity at 530/540 :D

After a first run of the new volume based features:

(1) Bid/Ask doesn't work (yet?) for Bitstamp... seeing that they're the biggest Western exchange as of now, it'd be really useful to get that data for Bitstamp as well... is it a problem of their API limiting the data you need?


(2) How do you calculate the Bid/Ask ratio, if I may ask. For example, for mtgox, btcwisdom currently has bid/ask at around "0.344". How do you get to that value?

For comparison, the blockchained graph calculates bid/ask as: Total Bid Sum/Total Ask Sum, which currently sits at around 500 USD (maybe a bit higher).

Coinorama calculates the same, Total Bid/Total Ask, so bid/ask as raw price = ~518 USD at the moment. But a useful feature is to *normalize* that ratio to the price at which it is calculated!

So in our case, 518 USD bid/ask normalized to the current price = ~0.87 bid/ask.

Okay, so what I'm saying is basically: a) I don't know how you get to "0.344", and b) could you consider implementing it like I wrote above, as total bid/total ask, normalized for price?