I decided to write to Ledger (again) asap. This time i want ALL my data removed from ALL their databases under GDPR.
Of course, i will remind them, that refusing to do so is illegal in the EU and that i have to report it to the officials through my embassador/foreign affairs ministry.
In the meantime i'm gonna figure out the correct instance to turn to, which form and/or wording i have to use etc.
Good move. Please keep us posted on this. I'm also thinking of writing to those jokers, to formally request the complete deletion of everything they hold about me, under GDPR. Complete deletion. Those fucks! I hope they go bankrupt and be forced to pay heavy fines. Use formal language and don't be impolite (don't swear, etc.), just cold and to the point. This will scare them even more. Good luck! Will let you guys know what happens in my case too, I just need to find the time to write a proper email. You don't need much time, i'll post my text later. I am used to formal language, i am always friendly, especially to my enemies  EDIT: From their FAQ: Does Ledger comply with GDPR?Ledger is working tirelessly to comply with GDPR and other data protection regulations. This is why within 3 days of the discovery of the data breach, Ledger reported the information to the French Data Protection authority and has been provided updates as they became available. Ledger is also working and communicating openly with other data protection authorities. Ledger’s privacy team is also mobilised to respond and manage any privacy related queries that customers may send us. If you have a specific request about your data (access, erasure….) please send us an email at privacy@ledger.fr. |
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For US customers only. EU customers (no guns allowed): "You're on your own!"
I don't care. My wrench is bigga than yourz  I decided to write to Ledger (again) asap. This time i want ALL my data removed from ALL their databases under GDPR. Of course, i will remind them, that refusing to do so is illegal in the EU and that i have to report it to the officials through my embassador/foreign affairs ministry. In the meantime i'm gonna figure out the correct instance to turn to, which form and/or wording i have to use etc. |
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...explaining the law to them.
Be your own lawyer |
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Ledger update: I took my backups and extracted the emails from about three years ago, when i ordered my first nano. Clicking on the "Order details" link takes me to a page where order details are shown as "hidden" (for my security), because the order completed. So far so good, that's maybe why personal data from my order is not included in the e-commerce db leak, but my email must be there, because of the lately increased spam. Reviewing my recent order shows all data, but it's completed as well. I have to insist to apply GDPR Art. 17 to all my personal data @ledger. Another grumpy email session Don't bother at this moment. Instead, query a database there are two places: https: //intelx.io/?did=8761746e-d333-4256-bbcd-9100c8722799 or simply https: //intelx.io , then search for your e-mail. It will show either just email OR the whole echilada (address, name, etc) Alternative is https: //haveibeenpwned.com/ , but people say that intelx is better because you can just scan with email. I am putting the gap (between : and //) in the address, so it would result in non-clickable link. You can assemble if so desire. If your info is there, GDPR will do nothing as the data is already out there, sorry Strangely, hibp.com shows two breaches for my email, and one of them is "Covve contacts app", though i never used it. Ledger is also listed. Regarding intelx, i have been using up my limit as non-registered user for downloads of the eight txt files with personal data. Will have to wait until tomorrow to download the email database files, for a local scan. I know, i could reset the gateway, clear the cookies and cache and have another free go today, but it's not that important to me, now that i know that my personal data wasn't exposed.
ledger have been hacked seems like my data is safe i am pissed off, though #frenchtardhaiku
EDIT: From ledgers email about the leak (yesterday): If you are part of the detailed personal information subset, you will receive a specific email notifying you within the next 24 hours (check your spam box).
And i didn't receive any more emails from them today. Close, pretty close. But my Email leaked, not that bad too, because it can't be linked to my real name or personal data. The nanos are worthless now too, because if they will go broke because of this, or other shit they will do or did, there will likely be no servers running, at some point, for their client software to connect to. However, lesson learned. Thanks, life. |
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Ledger update: I took my backups and extracted the emails from about three years ago, when i ordered my first nano. Clicking on the "Order details" link takes me to a page where order details are shown as "hidden" (for my security), because the order completed. So far so good, that's maybe why personal data from my order is not included in the e-commerce db leak, but my email must be there, because of the lately increased spam. Reviewing my recent order shows all data, but it's completed as well. I have to insist to apply GDPR Art. 17 to all my personal data @ledger. Another grumpy email session |
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Im not stupid enough to type my details into any internet "have I been hacked" search engine.
But had no spam so far.
No need. You can download the leaked files and search yourself using a text editor. That's what I did. Can't help feeling possessing such data is perhaps a little naughty. It is, but if you've purchased a Ledger before June 2020 (or ever, really), you are entitled to peek inside and check if your data is in there. I was lucky, too. But, i apologize because i was thinking about the old, hacked dataset. This one is new. F*ckers! EDIT: Just read their apologies on titter. "Alerted the authorities"  LOL Help, police!!! HEeeeelp!! What a bunch of losers. They should consolidate and wipe their data every day. What's so hard about that? |
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Im not stupid enough to type my details into any internet "have I been hacked" search engine.
But had no spam so far.
No need. You can download the leaked files and search yourself using a text editor. That's what I did. yeah but its not much different from a list of people who brought expensive hot tubs. Sure some may be rich, some might just like hot tubs. There are much easier ways for crooks to find rich people. The paranoia level here is like a feedback loop. I just suggested a secure way to check if you're on the list... I think the more immediate threat for those affected is the spam/phishing flooding of their email accounts. But it is possible that some (hopefully none) could face physical harassment too. There are 273K customers on the list. That's not a partial database. You bought from them before the leak and you should be there. With whatever data you provided to them. The "persona" I provided to them is in fact there. This is something that "happens" but at the same time it is something that should not have happened. What angers me the most is that they lied in saying it was only a very partial list with only 9K customers when it is indeed the whole list. Many, if not most, of the addresses in the list look like real home addresses (maybe not their own though) no P.O. boxes or business. The only good thing is that the list is so big (in fact there is way more people in some zones than I would have ever guessed) that it "dilutes" the focus of any potential "attacker". Also, like Globb0 said it doesn't mean those do have a big amount of BTC (maybe not even BTC, just worthless shitcoins) nor that they do still have anything anymore. Not a dull day in Bitcoinland.... Nope. They clear their e-commerce database from time to time, iirc once a year. This one got leaked, with data from a certain timespan. They outsourced their shop and the shop software was vulnerable. It's not the customer database, which is not accessible from the internet, where all customer data is stored. |
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I have gotten at least 20 spam emails. /yawn What this hacker is doing is putting people at serious risk of physical extortion attacks! People may be be kidnapped, tortured and even killed because of his actions. This is a criminal act, and I really hope this hacker is found, arrested and put to jail for life. That's not even a hacker. It's a troll. If ledger doesnt grant my "right to be forgotten" as an EU company, to an EU citizen, they're gonna get into trouble, i swear. They have to send me a proof of deletion. I soon will issue an ultimatum, otherwise my lawyers phone will ring my tune. News coverage of ledger trying to escape the law would be candy. [/angry mode] I'm with you on this. I was not affected, purely out of luck (purchased a Ledger from those jokers in 2017—one year before the leaked data), but I'm pretty sure they still have my details. I'm an EU citizen too. If there is a law or other legal/official info I can use to threaten them in the email I'm going to send them, please let me know, either publicly (maybe here, for the benefit of all), or via PM. I also want to make sure they completely erase my data from their servers. And I do hope they go bankrupt—I think they will, given that their blunder directly negates their sales pitch for their h/w wallets. Who, in their right mind, would buy a Ledger, or use their online services, after what happened? The Ledger may be a solid product, but I prefer the mafia way of dealing with such issues: "When in doubt, kill 'em all!" I was lucky too, not affected. I also browsed and searched the leaked content, and there are surprisingly more customers in my area (within 50km) than i thought. However, to every name i was visualizing a face getting smashed with a hammer, so i quit sniffing in the file. Here's your pointer: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/ |
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I have gotten at least 20 spam emails. /yawn What this hacker is doing is putting people at serious risk of physical extortion attacks! People may be be kidnapped, tortured and even killed because of his actions. This is a criminal act, and I really hope this hacker is found, arrested and put to jail for life. That's not even a hacker. It's a troll. If ledger doesnt grant my "right to be forgotten" as an EU company, to an EU citizen, they're gonna get into trouble, i swear. They have to send me a proof of deletion. I soon will issue an ultimatum, otherwise my lawyers phone will ring my tune. News coverage of ledger trying to escape the law would be candy. [/angry mode] |
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Fooking Ledger!!!
What the heck...
Never trusted hardware wallets with significant amounts and never will. Paper/Steel wallets rule. who gives a s-t about trusting the stupid wallet when fooking home addresses were revealed. that's the main problem. Exactly. I need a change of thoughts, off to the home movie theater... 32 inches (diagonal)  "Fatman" is the movie of choice. Have some good, deep #hodlsleep |
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Weeeeeee!!!!!
More like eeeeeew!!!!! I see we recover slowly, nice. I have been affected by the Ledger leaks. I got contacted via mobile and email for phishing attacks. Did not Fall for it of course. But how safe are my coins on the ledger as long as I dont share any keys and stuff? I am also worried that some assholes will break into my parents home where I ordered the ledger to because these idiots from Ledger leaked my parents home adress...
Edit: and just in this moment I got a Mail from Ledger explaining that the coins are safe as long as no keys are shared...
Idiots. I don't find a different explanation. They refuse to accept the possibility of a $5 wrench attack. Your coins are (prolly) safe, but you are not. When i bought my second ledger (for my wife), i immediately asked to get my data removed from the e-commerce DB, according to GDPR Art. 17. I did get response so far, that the request was forwarded to the responsible team, but i never got any message about further proceedings (yet). Regarding customer data protection ledger just sucks ass. I officially hate them now and won't recommend them to anybody ever again. I'll let some time pass, hope i don't forget about it, but then i have no choice than to let EU officials go after these frenchtards. I know french people, nice people. So sorry all you french readers for my anti-french comment. |
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Saudi Arabia closes all its borders to all countries.
France/UK border closed.
Domino effect..
How will the world looks like next week?
Worldwide hysteria, every country locks down, world economy tumbles, wallstreet indices drop to zero, while insitutions, governments and big corps hedge into bitcoin. Elon musk will start it with a tweet. bitcoin $1m Q1/2021. The world is forced to accept and integrate bitcoin. hodlers unite with uncovering Satoshi and buy the world to make it a free place. oh shit, i woke up, what a weird dream i had... |
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I was actually thinking about, and mentioned to Elwar, about sending him my resume, to work on that ship and keep it running no matter what it takes, cause that’s what I do..
I can understand complex systems and scramble at the drop of a hat to keep it going, such as keeping that ship from sinking or floating dead in the water.. I make shit happen..
But I guess not..
I am not very good in the digital realm when it comes to software and cryptocurrency stuff, but I am a beast in the physical realm..
Hmm, why not sending him your resume, no matter what. If he needs someone with your skills, who is not just a name on a payroll, but a bitcointalk collegue, he would happily contact you, i think. EDIT: What i (try to) teach my kids is that if they ever have to decide to take an opportunity, they should absolutely take it if they only remotely think they might bite their asses later for not having taken it. (is that even half correct english?) |
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starting the corrected parabola to $100k+ finally in Q4/2022.
 Uhmm, yeah so $100k++ Is that OK now?  (There's actually a lot in a +. in fact infinity minus 100.000 in this case) |
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Well, Well, Well this has been a good run, I wonder what is going to be this runs top, I am still feeling a top around 40k.
This is complete speculation, fully pulled out of my ass.
I hope you don't mean that $40k will be a blowoff top and we'll return to bear market? I could live with a local top, weakhand billionaires dropping it to $30k in Q1/2022 and starting the corrected parabola to $100k+ finally in Q4/2022. |
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Poll suggestion: When page parity? EDIT: suggested ansewerrrs Q4/2020 Q1/2021 Q2/2021 H2/2021 2022 never I guess it's > 90% for the first answer |
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I'd even suggest eddie to try for hiring on a small boat as a sailor/seaman, if possible. this way he can set sails and additionally make money to invest into moar corn. Then go for an own boat after the next bullrun (2025/26). |
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This is my turn now
centering my mind to work
on sunday haiku
i keep woodworking
in the basement every night
observing corn pumps
now it's time for me
to save fiat for two years
for buys, when bears dump
#haikutrips
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These are the latest covid headlines.
I just wanna add my concern to other people here, i can stop if people are not pleased by it.
nope. thanks for sharing, i just gave my 2 cents, you know.
There is a possibility that this virus is also in germany. Maybe this also explains the higher infection rate. But it's only a guess. We won't know for sure. But one think is clear. It will arrive other countries even with the air travel ban.
So far it hasn't been sequenced in germany. Read Drosten's titter. He's THE expert, always rational, highly competent. |
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Belgium, Italy, Netherlands, Czechia, France, Ireland, Austria and Germany suspending flights and train arrivals from England. Countries responding fast. Kuwait, Isreal, Bulgaria, Sweden, Romania, Luxembourg also banning flights from the UK. Border closed for UK travelers entering Belgium for 24 hours while deciding what to do. Mutated virus also discovered in The Netherlands, South-Africa, Italy and Denmark. Stay save. Completely over-exaggerated. It would be easy to test for sars.cov2 at (a safe) check-in. On destination airports: No test? Quarantine for 10 days. Banning flights is way more expensive. When you vote for idiots, these are the results. |
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