BIP101 does not immediately jump from 8 mb to 8 gb. It increases linearly over the course of several years.
That kind of misinformation isn't useful. It increases exponentially, not linearly, doubling every 2 years for 20 years. 10 doublings, giving a 1024x increase. On top of the initial 8x increase, making an effective increase of 8192x. |
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Not sure if you are being disingenuous or you really don't understand. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter.
BIP101 activates *only* if XT has >75% of hashing power.
No, it activates when >75% of the last 1000 blocks *say* they were mined by XT. That can happen with less than 75% of the hash power saying they are running XT, and you also can't assume that just a block was mined by XT just because it says it was. It is quite possible for me to mine blocks saying I'm willing to accept "big blocks" when I'm actually not. So once a big block is mined then it doesn't matter if core ignores it, because core doesn't have the hash power to be able to orphan XT blocks by producing a longer chain.
From Bitcoin's point of view, XT's "big blocks" don't exist, so the question of whether or not it can orphan them is moot. Core will continue to work on the longest valid chain, and that doesn't include any chain with blocks greater than 1MB in it. At the point a big block is mined the probability of core being able to produce a longer chain quickly falls to zero.
The longest valid chain accepted by Core *is* the longest valid chain, by definition. If 75% of the hash power wants to mine an incompatible fork of Bitcoin, that doesn't change this fact. But mining is expensive. Miners won't mine Mike's coin once they find they can't cover their expenses by selling them. In the first 10 minutes there is a 25% chance, in 20 minutes 6% chance and so on... 1.5%, 0.4%,0.1%. After on hour of XT mining with 75% hashpower there is a 0.02% chance that core has a longer chain. Core is dead in an hour.
Litecoin forked from Bitcoin. Its chain grows 4 times faster than Bitcoin's. There's a 0% chance that Bitcoin can catch up with the length of Litecoin's chain. Nobody cares. Core ignores the Litecoin chain in the same way that it will ignore the XTcoin chain once XT's chain becomes incompatible with Bitcoin's. If XT doesn't have 75% of hashing power then BIP101 doesn't activate. So both XT and core both continue to mine small blocks and nothing changes.
You seem to be repeating yourself. See my first paragraph. The chart is quite correct.
Not really. "the longest chain" is ambiguous. It should really be "the longest valid chain", and then you need to define which coin's concept of "validity" you're using. Every client follows the longest valid chain - that's precisely how they decide which chain to follow. So assuming the question is "will my node follow the longest valid Bitcoin chain?", then the answer is "no" for XT once BIP101 is activated. At that point XT stops following the longest valid Bitcoin chain and starts following the longest valid XT chain, whereas the answer is "yes" for Bitcoin. -- If, at that moment, more than 50% of the miners accept big blocks, the big-block branch (mined by them) will eventually grow faster than the small-block branch (mined by the rest of the miners). The split will be permanent and the big-block branch will grow faster.
Why would the split be permanent? Miners are free to switch between chains at any point, and will mine whichever chain gives them the best payouts. If XTcoin is valued significantly below Bitcoin then miners will switch back to mining Bitcoin and the Bitcoin chain will catch and outgrow the XT chain. If, at that moment, less than 50% of the miners accept big blocks, the small-block branch will eventually grow longer. Then the big-block miners will stop mining their branch, which will be orphaned, and they will start mining the small-block branch too. If someone mines another big block, the chain will split again. This situation will repeat over and over, as long as some miner happens to mine a big block. There will be a single small-block chain with recurrent big-block side branches that are orphaned sooner or later.
Only from XT's point of view. From a Bitcoin user's point of view those orphaned blocks never existed. Sane bitcoiners should want the first case to happen
Have you read BIP101? It proposes jumping the blocksize limit to 8 MB next year, and then doubling of the blocksize limit every 2 years, for 20 years. That gives us 8192 MB blocks in 21 years. And that's what the sane bitcoiners should want? Blockstream fans who are not totally stupid [...]
Bitcoiners who are stupid, or are into financial sado-masochism [...]
So there are only 3 categories: * the 'sane' ones who want an 8 GB blocksize limit * blockstream fans * stupid and/or BDSM types How about those who would prefer a more sensible raising of the blocksize limit once consensus has been reached, rather than this ham-fisted 8 GB blocksize limit nonsense? |
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I had non-zero balance in 12 may 2014 in BTC encrypted wallet.dat Importing of this wallet do nothing. Where is my CLAM  We ended up PMing back and forth about this, and he finally got his free CLAMs. It turned out that: * he was fully synced * his BTC address was funded at the snapshot date * the 'receive' tab showed the corresponding CLAM address, so the import worked * but the balance was still zero I fixed the problem for him by having him run "clam-qt -rescan" - and then the coins showed up. I don't know how the client go into that state. I'm wondering if maybe he quit the client while it appeared 'hung up' while it was rescanning the blockchain after doing the import, and that left the addresses imported, but the rescan not done. But that's just a guess. Anyway: -rescan for the win. |
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It's quite possible that the acquiring company didn't get a copy of the site's hot wallet. In fact it's likely they wouldn't, so that neither party has to trust the other with private keys. |
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Can you post a list of BTC addresses somewhere? I have a theory on where they came from that i can check.
Here's some of it. The full list is at http://privatepaste.com/2b3f383378 date time block CLAM BTC
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I don't see the added benefit of pooling coins in a POS setting above doing it yourself in your wallet. Well, minus the work that it saves you.
The main benefit is the reduced orphan rate. A staking pool allows a bunch of people to cooperate, and effectively agree not to orphan each other's blocks. Then there's the fact that most people don't keep a server online 24/7, and so a staking pool allows them to be always staking without having to maintain their own server. There are lots of downsides of course, with the biggest being the counterparty risk and the fees you'll have to pay. Proceed with extreme caution it appears to be a black box you put money into and a trickle of money comes out of because magic or staking or something. If you wish to withdraw principal you pay an unspecified penalty. Transparency about zero as far as i could find with limited digging.
I've not looked at their site, but there's no excuse for such a site not to offer a proof-of-solvency, so its clients can be sure they're not investing in a Ponzi. |
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I sold everything, seems that's the only thing to do like now. Will buy back when this crazyness will stop.
Seems like a reasonable strategy to me. Someone just keep offloading their clams even at a cheap price.
If you can the trade history of clams in poloniex, you can see constant selling even the price is very low.
If that is going to continue, then selling now and buying back later seems like the only rational action. |
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- if we are saying many people should benefit from the dig, surely there should be a limit on clam clients on how many addresses they can dig, daily or over the lifetime
I don't think this point was fully addressed in SuperClam's answer. Note that the CLAM client is open source. Any limit we put in the client could easily be changed or removed. There is no network consensus rule about "digs per client per day", and there cannot be, because it is impossible to tell clients apart from each other. To spend an initial-distribution output all you need to do is sign a transaction that spends it. Each initial-distrubition output was created using the BTC (or LTC, or DOGE) address' public key, and so to spend it you need the corresponding private key. Any exploit that is able to spend other people's initial-distribution CLAMs on the CLAM blockchain would also be able to spend their BTC on the BTC blockchain, since exactly the same mechanism is used in both cases. Yesterday I spent some time looking at the BTC addresses which were "dug" recently. I fed them into https://www.walletexplorer.com/ which calls itself a "Bitcoin block explorer with address grouping and wallet labeling". The idea is that for each BTC address you give it, it tells you which site's hot wallet the address is in. It was unable to identify the wallet of very many of the dug addresses I tried. It was only able to identify the wallet of about 1% of the addresses I looked up, and in every case it identified them as being in the BetVIP.com wallet. BetVIP appears to have launched in March 2014 and shut down in June 2015. Here's a video of its founder talking in April 2015, claiming (at 0:30) that it officially launched in June 2014. I guess it's possible that their hot wallet was stolen by or sold to the digger, or that someone from BetVIP is the digger. It seems unlikely that a relatively unknown site that launched just 2 months before (or one month after) the CLAM snapshot could have received 3% of the CLAM distribution, and so it remains a mystery where the bulk of the addresses have come from. I'm not sure how accurate or complete walletexplorer.com is, but I would expect it to have shown up at least one hit on the MtGox or BTC-e wallets if it was them who were digging... |
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I had non-zero balance in 12 may 2014 in BTC encrypted wallet.dat Importing of this wallet do nothing. Where is my CLAM We're going to need a little more detail. Which specific address was funded on 12th May 2014? |
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With such a high staking rate, within a few months huge digs will mean nothing anyway.
It takes almost a year to stake 500k CLAMs: >>> 500e3 / 60 / 24 347.22222222222223 347 days... |
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*Huge sigh of relief*  Agree 100000% When I said last night that I think the expiry date should be "5 minutes after clamchecker launches", I was joking... |
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I believe CLAM should remain how it is or else it will be viewed by everyone as a scamcoin with developers/dooglus who are only interested in their own profits/protecting their profits by using code.
You want to do this to avoid other peoples from joining CLAM for free in fear of one large dumper it seems. No, I don't want to do it at all. You're quoting yourself there, not me. I never said I want to stop people digging. I said it had been discussed in the JD chat, and I figure this is a better place to discuss it. I'm personally not in favour of it. Putting a date like that could be horrible for CLAM as well and fuck up the "natural growth". It might cause all the people who would dig in a 10 year time span to do it in a 100 day span.
It would also royally fuck up the way I've told people about CLAMS and a lot of hard work that went into assuring people they could worry about them 5 years down the road.
Plus it would fuck up the long term business plan of my little ClamChecker.com site and any other site dedicated to helping people learn about this great fair distributed coin
Right. We've been telling people all along that there's no expiry date. I think it's too late to go back on that now. |
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It seems to me you either:
a) check each of the 100k addresses you own to see it if it funded, or
b) check each of the 3 million funded address to see if you own it
(a) is 30 times less work than (b) - so why would you do (b)?
I'm not very familiar with the client; I'm guessing this means you can bulk enter all your addresses and it automatically digs them for you? I'm not even talking about how the client actually works, but theoretically, if you have 100k addresses and you know that 3 million addresses were funded, do you loop through the 100k addresses you own or through the 3m million that were funded? How the client actually works is that you import your wallet, which causes all the private keys in the wallet to be imported into your CLAM wallet, and then it scans the whole blockchain looking for transactions which affect the addresses you own. It does so from the oldest to the newest block, and keeps a list of all the relevant transactions in order of transaction ID. However, having said all that I suspect our digger may just be using this flag: $ clamd --help | grep minimize
-minimizecoinage Minimize weight consumption (experimental) (default: 0)
It makes the client always spend the youngest outputs first. Since outputs funded in higher numbered blocks have less confirmations than those funded in lower numbered blocks it would have the effect of spending the outputs from the highest numbered blocks first. Edit: Indeed, we can't actually detect "digging" at all. All we can detect is when dug outputs move for the first time. It's quite possible that he already has 500k CLAMs in his wallet, and is just spending them one output at a time. In other words, "digging up old CLAMs" doesn't leave a mark on the blockchain. To dig all you do is import your old wallet.dat file into your CLAM client. Nothing hits the network until you move or stake those dug CLAMs, which is what we're seeing now.
Interesting. Although, if they were already all dug up, the block order that they are being moved in seems to make even less sense. See above. I think we might simply be seeing the result of the -minimizecoinage flag. To dig all you do is import your old wallet.dat file into your CLAM client. Nothing hits the network until you move or stake those dug CLAMs, which is what we're seeing now.
Which one is it? That is, is the dig-whale moving these CLAMS to new CLAM addresses or are you just seeing them stake? All the transactions I've looked at have been spends, not staking transactions. I think he's probably moving the outputs to poloniex, one at a time. |
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Regarding the discussion on why he might be digging the clams in this fashion, one of the Dev's mentioned that it would be more difficult for them to do it this way because of the randomization, and the assumption is that they're doing it this way to perhaps send a message to us of their motivation. I disagree that it would be more difficult.
I wonder if they didn't just grab a dump of the whole CLAM blockchain up to the last block where the initial distribution took place, exported all the diggable addresses in the order they were funded, and is just backtracking their way through the list while matching each funded addresses to ones that they own. This makes the most sense to me, anyways.
It seems to me you either: a) check each of the 100k addresses you own to see it if it funded, or b) check each of the 3 million funded address to see if you own it (a) is 30 times less work than (b) - so why would you do (b)? It's possible for anyone to submit fixes to the CLAM website. I just submitted a pull request to fix the date: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/nochowderforyou.github.io/pull/3Once that pull request is merged, the website updates itself automatically. Also, I just wanted to chip in my two cents in regards to forcing people to wait after digging their CLAMS. I am strongly against this. It sounds Dooglus was at one point as well.
I don't think anyone is suggesting a delay. The discussion I saw last night was from people proposing an expiry date for CLAM digging. For example, if you don't dig up and spend your CLAMs by the end of the year, they vanish forever. That's obviously a good thing for the people who already dug up their CLAMs and a bad thing for those who didn't... I believe CLAM should remain how it is or else it will be viewed by everyone as a scamcoin with developers/dooglus who are only interested in their own profits/protecting their profits by using code.
It's hardly a "scam" if the developers "only" give away free coins for the first 18 months instead of forever. But putting an expiry date on digging does seem to remove one of the most innovative qualities of CLAM, as I see it. Is dooglus the developer of clam? I know he uses it on his website for gambling but didnt know he was the inventoe of clam. I don't think he is going for profit, he has always been fair and will stay it!
I am *a* developer of CLAM, but not its inventor. I didn't hear about CLAM until it had been live for quite some time, and so wasn't at all involved in the initial distribution. I've nothing against making a profit - I don't think making a profit is incompatible with being fair. I attempt to be both fair and profitable. My question is what is the estimate, given his current rate of digging, will this go on? Is he claiming like 10,000 clam per day, with an estimated 500k clam, so we are looking at 50 days of this?
It's hard to get a clear idea of how it will play out. Assuming he is able to dig 3% from each block, that gives him 0.03 (3%) of 3208032 (funded addresses) * 4.60545574 (CLAMs per address) = 443,233 CLAMs. At 15k per day that's 30 days. But there's no reason to assume the digging won't speed up or slow down. Indeed, we can't actually detect "digging" at all. All we can detect is when dug outputs move for the first time. It's quite possible that he already has 500k CLAMs in his wallet, and is just spending them one output at a time. In other words, "digging up old CLAMs" doesn't leave a mark on the blockchain. To dig all you do is import your old wallet.dat file into your CLAM client. Nothing hits the network until you move or stake those dug CLAMs, which is what we're seeing now. Here's an updated chart of the digging action:  and here's an independently generated chart, showing how the recent digs fit in with the all-time growth: http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CLAM/charts.php?type=clamsupply |
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I don't think changes to the coin should be considered. It's no surprise that there are some people with access to a Satoshi-level supply.
With a half million clams, someone can crash the price temporarily. However, as has been mentioned, this isn't the most profitable move.
Compare it to the block reward. With 1 clam reward being produced roughly every minute, there are roughly half a million clams produced every year. If the new big holder decides to sell his supply over the course of a year, it's similar (in terms of supply) to the block reward doubling. In that case it's reasonable for the price to drop by half. If the new big holder decides to sell his supply over the course of a month, it's similar to the block reward increasing to roughly 13 clams per minute. In that case it's reasonable for the price to drop to roughly the 1 mbit level.
Incidentally, while this is obviously bad for the price, it may ultimately cause Clams to climb higher on coinmarketcap.com, since for some reason coinmarketcap.com does not count still-buried clams in the supply.
Both creative and xploited remember me arguing with them long ago about maybe suspending "digging" at some point in the future. I have no recollection of the argument, but apparently my position was that it would be unfair to suspend digging, and I convinced them both of that point of view. I can see both sides: it's understandable that the people who already "dug" their CLAMs would want to suspend future digging so that their own share of the CLAM supply isn't diluted by newcomers. But it's also great for CLAM that we can tell newcomers "hey, check CLAM out - you probably already have some". We've seen people come to Just-Dice to dig their CLAM and stick around as part of the community, purely because they were able to claim "free money" to get started with. I don't think there's any doubt that CLAM is only as well known as it is today because of the widespread initial distribution. Shutting that off now turns CLAM into "just another shitcoin" in some ways. As I see it, the initial distribution is really what sets CLAM apart from the crowd. I'd be interested to hear what others have to say. I've seen quite a few people in the Just-Dice chat arguing that the 15 million "undug" CLAM is a huge liability, and makes people hold back from investing in the coin. |
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While I'm sure some will complain, I think you made the correct decision to publish. This is a threat that has hung over clam since its inception and any other coin that mimics its distribution method. It will be interesting to see how clam community reacts to the first "dig whale".
We've had big digs before, and the market swallowed them up pretty well. But this one looks like it's going to be considerably bigger. Time will tell I guess. The problem with this is that the bag holder won't be an idiot, he'll wait for the price to go back up. This discovery is going to significantly hinder clam investment in the future and is ultimately an issue with the distribution strategy.
"Everyone with a BTC address gets 4.6 CLAM" sounds like a good, fair distribution. Unfortunately the implication is "anyone with 100,000 BTC addresses gets 460,000 CLAM", which seems a little less fair. It's going to be hard to know whether he has dumped at all now that others are presumably dumping too. We've always known there were around 15 million CLAMs lying around waiting to be dug up. I guess in a sense this 3% is nothing compared to what could theoretically happen. this means you extracted loads of free CLAMs now ?
Me? No. It means someone is digging up a load of free CLAMs. But it's not me. I'm left holding a buttload of CLAMs that are worth half of what they were worth a week ago. |
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I noticed this a few hours ago, couldn't decide whether I should publish it or not, and eventually decided I should. I hope I made the correct decision:
While I'm sure some will complain, I think you made the correct decision to publish. This is a threat that has hung over clam since its inception and any other coin that mimics its distribution method. It will be interesting to see how clam community reacts to the first "dig whale". Really I don't think I had a choice. I could have kept the information to myself and sold my own CLAMs into the market, to people who didn't know what was about to happen, but that seems unfair. And the information would have become public soon enough anyway - the CLAM client logs the messages about which block CLAMs are being dug from in plain text, so someone else would have noticed it soon enough. As of right now, the last 50 digs: 2015-08-25 02:15:29 DIG: 29531e5395cb758d4d528d8553b464fb2f624f74ae8b163d65c9a246c3b9ab91:101 xTSTYS5XFMkrPb5rygprbJBjdSHkaSVe3n from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:15:29 DIG: 7594092d31666f3bf2cf9e4fb0941b7c91ee3acbcc4d1f18dbf6dbfd8002387e:173 xJcNkdgdAQaPjqWdVNseMpdyqFNXzgjyDW from block 9116
2015-08-25 02:15:29 DIG: 7594092d31666f3bf2cf9e4fb0941b7c91ee3acbcc4d1f18dbf6dbfd8002387e:99 x9yMPwFsaeovLJxBKfzbk11XiNJQqozDT3 from block 9116
2015-08-25 02:15:29 DIG: 7594092d31666f3bf2cf9e4fb0941b7c91ee3acbcc4d1f18dbf6dbfd8002387e:6 xSeMPtttiA7jkTGjJz3pckyGYcVpZHXksK from block 9116
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:204 xHpzckBp8zWUFChNH4GggdVNpVjzomLm1J from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:220 xJpxLjXRoPUZUfKeGG8KtBZ8Tj7LurhCmy from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:147 x8UcoNmDgYbRkoMNfGZTR66JbfacmZBZCU from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:232 xUp7GCpT93r7GT7oCKV3VkLVTv3Z5RzPbS from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:252 xCQCfd6umxoSgajU7YZHz5rwHn99amRK7u from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:155 xLZTqbc9jC1kXacXzzheBYwvbc7bUx83Jy from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:260 xBCfuVBBjBMbzKQBKUJA3EjmFrkeAsJoWC from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:313 x8XtbsFT7H6WvvvbnWABnLih6LFDnQV8tm from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:212 xMA6rQzDhrZGautrDX5Q9cFzV6yEnHYFRP from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:274 xP9BqXumuQGmNXfvHgcTBt9QX6bgkn2QZ1 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:16:24 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:196 xVnjpPYSJAApheQ8RuACLKrCnHX6xFhtoD from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:356 xLhbgLgCwG1JdyYhFKAJFizpvS4j7hEDfo from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:198 xHmPeE87brq894uiLwajn5Yu5yi7adgpHj from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:227 x93waAVtJ8bCar3Rp7XNZW2kAoNchv1jTJ from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:224 xBvgLzEvbdXJ785QMbyZPd89PCRCRTNygQ from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:188 xN1g14Rc2sia3F81onysx3gWgaxXVAEx8c from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: bf7b972218d580e0839e8fecfad2158524de35f00eed5b726e60c5c4a5a738c3:4 xVR4XbBeMu79cqWPKaWTRcd9yqESgSJ1pF from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:19:46 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:216 xSBFybmgiuyGUzDDWsXNdyVk6AyG61coqV from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:126 xJvCUm1xLVvg6p5mQXhyqSbQwtVzV9XVfF from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:331 xQveVsmVajhdsL7GYq5NqB5Z8hU6fMAH4U from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:174 xCwc6G4poNMb9uFeAWaY2vJRJjwnywfKP8 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:345 xK46q87ChFGanw9w9qMDHeq6y1RNCAbPjX from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:29 xNyp7C4PcJkVUQqTuhqoBdTuFaHrPM6tSY from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:322 xWjpAYMu6AE759yL8D1NUcKp9MFhKJzWFo from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:197 xAJMSGT9et5rup3WtsG2aiCaQtFmkQdAeo from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:37 xQkBqZQKEb56RQQcbFRpXTmMWXWpwvXg8D from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:90 xSA9XWzoM7f7n3JiC41e2Z2R2rP23xBc9K from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:16 xBQmgDckmkJy7CzYqQzud6xWQs1EwkicB6 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:327 xE3NS8XKoq2sVNvjWBAZaSBuBPMmKKYf3y from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:127 xFyAfVRD4jqXeZCkknWEcMu63ooUfTPEmD from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:174 xBgTZoN2vn5NWuNM5Zx2zmAoBzzz336W1J from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:332 xB5zZs2R7kkc3vjHhLQJV5huR93F5vyeqi from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:219 xQeieCuawPXnhwUYkfznJrGVBgwNLXmfVg from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:99 xTxburuiDebG3uBfNCNok4BcJcgWTfRkBV from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:292 xVJz8VRbPGrnBANWZBGdDcVTpvMgi2zMhe from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:306 xQngzgyDPSQ9ACMSmCg1uWzcAjHqx8Lhjm from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:292 xPj1Atme3kqCaz1SL24yjpggWooeXvLziP from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:218 xWrA9mQKzDJZLfWBATeKnL3F59yKNf2xUT from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:175 xAMaTF7MaR9XYi7T91L4FibBTFxuSPVRea from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:22 xGd5iwC2EjLPRee7xtj2g9YQdChAtxBaYT from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: bb6b40f40ffab26b694e333a42bc7a0f498f3a049edc1b271ca8896a61cd0e13:339 x9hqeNc6Tns1vJCfQQ2daAapLJjXDxEvx5 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 8778ad625d18c8bc4142348c36afea7ce18bd9e3023e38c9a7efc2ba63fca17b:92 xCNF9wHuoqVYC4HU5SbJDTaN4xScceGQvb from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:133 xEzqsKhwmCYZTqMAy3LsCKb67TZvcphvtj from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:35 x9UxdwqGNxAUo4QLXqhUx3MJAeJ6XdBC61 from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 213aff6c5f811787123a5dd49864290f08f946c15c886a8b81659d07ce11c2b6:305 xPp7ZuGdf8hcA1uo4iW3gfAN7qVDKo1CkV from block 9114
2015-08-25 02:25:06 DIG: 77475c80c89d2e6b18224a65f8515fead8bafa0ab983c5b2dfbde42bf6ca918e:262 xKhM2LiPUh3LzAojYmhu21GbCBnZ7NWc4a from block 9114 |
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The recently dug coins would make sense with the large number of bitcoin days destroyed selling taking place in Bitcoin.
So a old time Bitcoiner selling BTC from old wallets then digging up the clams for the bonuses.
Good point. The standard advice is "move your BTC before importing your wallet", and so we would expect large "digs" to be accompanied by large "Bitcoin days destroyed", at least some of the time. Although note that every non dust (>0.0001 BTC) address gets the same ~4.6 CLAM award, so it's possible these dug addresses are mostly dust amounts, and would have very little affect on the "days destroyed" chart. |
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I noticed this a few hours ago, couldn't decide whether I should publish it or not, and eventually decided I should. I hope I made the correct decision: Checking my clam logs, I see something strange about the recent 'digging': 2015-08-24 23:17:02 DIG: 9164592830c9587bca115cbe797a80ca78d2240c3b7e9ecc87228ab883597162:289 xSA29Q6FL6Rf1HC494LN9f1UizMLM28swG from block 9122
2015-08-24 23:17:02 DIG: 9164592830c9587bca115cbe797a80ca78d2240c3b7e9ecc87228ab883597162:225 xBnPYwTozrNAfrvmfcKrN1eC7QF9JHFtqw from block 9122
2015-08-24 23:17:02 DIG: 9164592830c9587bca115cbe797a80ca78d2240c3b7e9ecc87228ab883597162:43 xTh39dcrPkabebWyEjW5sb8rpeV6fb5VoN from block 9122
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:257 xFdWTCgRKBVgME8Szd6abo5Y4EeWEucLP7 from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:263 xBuiUaPhPzaYCd3H97HJ5ipYTiwkBrHEjb from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:343 xNdXNrFZ5PCNzowYC6CYKfQjqCqLzR2Jee from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:335 xXKMXeao6GEJQFrNPxSfriSm2BDfxvvaTF from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:296 xUWuoDpH1MhmhMkY5HbdLPzAyCPkRzKHQr from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:251 xRVLpyUVmXnXzdom1mJjwzRe7HuBPZYEs7 from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:188 xAth7QfQPw8kmTmbi4CiVt7TrjdDKeunHr from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:183 xB1F1dq7LHbQBWDSpnMfiiCGTEMMjXGRC3 from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:20:59 DIG: 5e1c718701688a7b86c1298567c82af41d1b8732b71b10a32ea8887be9ace66e:0 xEL5NJkjHsNsC7AJpSg1W5bNt62qkbkEBz from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:197 xRaiLjaGuAfzrS5c34GKWMRLFi2XRRrVp1 from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:151 xTg9aiT2LX1mTR3gvZig6vFLpV8U2EQZRm from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:298 xEpWhvh1zjbQ98MSnNz1yjtoETVnhDkHZR from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:58 xRyHittXt5T3FDj6Yn9WVKSUJ9DeA1gxqy from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:343 xLS89LV66G6YG7hV4U5YyV4NXvYvLejt5M from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:63 xL2wj2vdy9QHHpQpQ9joZKY1cfYVzb8C9o from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:182 xN7c9jAFPH1pKTN7Buj4qcPPHsjokwkm7p from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:330 xRZCHSZ5zUtFN5FymUDVRyzpY8ftajqTpc from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:313 xVRK9ocxMdWqR5zDyPWTgCaDmpqzxvJqNV from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:22:06 DIG: cdc2ba436e66682eb2bf8db4a55ad075c1fcd3c35cdb3c63092c700c9ddea4e8:182 xMyv9oVyeooRSQx4pTT432Mv4DdQmY8xeT from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:25:34 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:128 xAm83kQNWUPw7hARnuQhKwuRbHmD1fCjqk from block 9121
2015-08-24 23:31:12 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:113 xXCKWqXmffouX9orfpGXY6Fpm3ZKh53LZZ from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:295 xDCy4mPbJAb9oGJMAWaa3X3FoKtQ6u1Av9 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:233 x9DhjodJdyn4azLPC1Ri7tuhKatWhiEcxh from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:88 xPJHhVYot2TRhm9ryaVjYLAq2KtHuXZ5zk from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:254 xVyPL7wxMdNVtdkbsmUrbS2b8ZbgMfz9w3 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:44 xJKWT9rmCpdyuzyVpj3bfVj1gXfiQyhTki from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:9 xCfuu7GXdYJ1yhZcp2tovCMKp6yQJgmP3h from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:56 xTCXiKAkMTjQy3fhd3mcQsesr7SALRL2s9 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:95 xRMmosrCmWgNsvA4y6UM1Tm76mnNJ33yBw from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:11 x9wvyrhv6ckKqco9wpisws1QBN3c3CPzQt from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:37 xEo3AJymByRWxB54LU8dEUD2q72mXxGxRL from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:302 xHJw34FpZLSg7up5z1PrSNp4TPGQMSzWYL from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:10:42 DIG: 9537b08d2d4d31bf90af3299b95817cc2dd22b16f1ad68dee84121d806cf394a:60 xNCK858JXV2DpdtAKWFgZj5rS7V7F5JcTR from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:269 xJUGBzd7JKJnU6Lhuou53Jv76SexTkVT7C from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:215 xCnVVotEgLM5g3phwYtgSoayGhHYu5XpFn from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:14 xSjxEkJU2Wwqn6WSJEusN1BxfXyE5HVb39 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:110 xFu28LKMnAcXYi3Hj7qomVHiX5N1qwkmRc from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:8 xUVJW5Bv7qTkFUEzmya2RjEkbM9XrRQtG8 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:315 xCU4mGDqnRxgEUV5vkVTnNmz1MByKS5bZj from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:0 xAYzTzWX8zJgLDjyo2aqkNvdy45xckutBg from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:159 xDA3dDuv1QyEDxhHk9T1k2o3o2pkSWqPLE from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:343 xNgwLecdeogMKjLPEbDnX81bDpMZaTUABv from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:152 xC7GywSrL1vzUukceJRvmnbRzyvUZZWY77 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:281 xF4gPctZEH8UFazbFEREpdHQi5jrLFZPUV from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:207 xNq7XE3g8mTUtF4JBnqoczzDve91LwdnXM from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:242 xPFyQeShPzKTVA4vAxwXUHd48wf4KPCX16 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:346 xB9sDLJy8iCQdupJuyKS2yut73JJdhCVZt from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:116 xHNJzuurmL64fzeKYq37LLLXdtCGwJXJ1X from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:162 xPks17THju1hYT3wkpcK2qUTeAKfUqJQyz from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:6 xN8jSU1bq9cY2SMCL23WCdBSSXz56Th1Bc from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:117 xFGd2PFUGJ9o7zpynCWyy9vmhGqqpKitz6 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:335 xWWRaYxkJnrqYRndJ1XCFPxiMopAJcriZP from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:99 xJgyHL2q6qfyFvrpQgPmQkh4sUUxcLN2rR from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:283 xVMsfmKKR99hjyGh7kDxrv34KgqyPuP2cD from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:164 xBo6omoutjQwKE3wnwREkAhjSFHxoSvaq3 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:211 xQgrRPhFA59ZtUoGmwVRGjEbij4PqmKZQA from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:132 xGhxMHZNR7KqmFhy78WQssjzKz2t3ScWim from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:123 xVcvsUWzdTiuwzMPPqaiunyhZPkxs8qUwM from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:108 xWfH74dQmU5g1zEBzscaQaH9iCwiV9Wyvi from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:303 xJDVQDZJRD3v9AqFGJpbCf2VS8yqxLs9CG from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:249 xPXDvX3ZmoqFfLcVoLERGtXxNSYuwTnAQw from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:171 xB78UVb2CL5USMgTe5znCB2xgSZL3SR8NU from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:1 xX1HSu8GVoM2kKvfxFKrapvZNx5Aq4v1ek from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: a2c81e94483fee2f937a8e82069eaf788f9e44b21c61441617daba85e236e97c:21 xSqUME1JGv3ky99j8QMsL6RG9gxThAD8u1 from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:15:44 DIG: f7389406a593c2d26c1f99221a4e3e478fe99a9fe9e804346abb1ee1cf6c402a:104 xNRf6w4z2FuTrEUp6kPrPbkgp7zrjXGj5n from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:91 xFqmhFFLSudU6BKH4uSe7xPo43xp3m4LFZ from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:207 xTcHLMepPtaRNCnNPexg4cPyWaYMdt93Aj from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:227 xCz8yLLuTou3gAEBxJyu5QnYPEVfC5qDzu from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:8 xFLwNzNRDfh1by11j44mV8FDM2WDpubhaM from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:47 xAVj7mGVEJGuhfQD96bJdM4QBuaRRz4f7R from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:190 xToss99SuYgPXGXGBKtgnbf7XyGBopcaSB from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:129 xUv6gD76k26DjNgnhAjJKhbAHWnwpaL6hY from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:120 xVyCBTN7gpKzGpmc583RA3dSMt4ePj6wMS from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:153 xNRqGPpcizbDkGjkGcFq6rf7Xwn5xKFV8o from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:165 xTfajfgzVP9MugWeg4b7yfV1VoALhHgnRe from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:55 xQjB6NGLTTfy1m9yZEzx2kLqNgdJBxPhFG from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:162 xNRuZ6e9nAs4V79XGD4tee468yUztAmyfQ from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:71 xPwouFtcBMsFCCkQzdmCVPodkPzp3cRXEn from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:241 xRGrKoRBYbRUXgBXfakZPkUvic41DNSYMz from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:195 xCpJAkgshC6JpAeNCss36RoEHMicRsmYNF from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:216 xQ4GaC957i191orKqdYpzwgYgpxpEi5X3Z from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:28 xKDd7weNobnhM4azg4HwYezLx4iJU6rcXz from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:18 x8WbSCJBoC1EGc5ToQaUMyWZgwg7BVYetV from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:86 xN3C7WhoW6NLvAUENZFDboaeYKbyjeH8hm from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:217 xBV8U2JUKU6fA1hneExg7AXR3qieQQtUvt from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:129 xSeC9t9dyAFZzQbu6Zjjx3oz1qpqcDya4Z from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:181 xQMiQhzSbpUchxC75VKNXKsDKy9h5DsnFm from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:42 xHSLBZQ5zfX6Ldk76Z9A6G7gBTNnQihnZw from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:192 xTSGo24iMqcM9hawQ8nbbaoTtSGJQKuFwR from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:51 xEvEXU6zSq92a4F8LVKsQjkkTfzfdENCXx from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: a646676f1db8944f7d0f0ef3e6c5946bd45cbf12cb871777e0e8508642900401:73 xTC7WqjLeFrK2bVEiLVmW8tdKLpUnQ88QZ from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:161 x9TZxowvBATfGqFqKyHPS7N9SboQ7nKEgr from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:271 x9UwkBzQCTEEggCWCCkDBGmds5p3JSj8zc from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:104 xDXX3ytZD2E6CVetvyfZSxenckAWkEe2xa from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:296 xRvbSiDKNkg2Lu18cXSi1f889RG23ojECW from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: 8a2cfa02d5b2fc79017dc7d892a0190095273f948e556e1ab400bb1f67b8e77e:243 xEPMvN8NeQaSNQYVbAqyTc5KWgs9CuQXmn from block 9121
2015-08-25 00:21:56 DIG: b6ba52309f159cd24c9afd8a735732ea06945436495c0b9acfcb749d9c06858f:232 xBJ3rsdSFppcdHPL868V9zdGK1BytveQKR from block 9121 Notice how the digs are all from initial distribution blocks 9121 and 9122... Looking back further, I see that the digging took ~3.6% of the rewards from block 9128 (256 of 7120), then took 3.6% of the rewards from block 9127 (261 of 7120), then took 3.3% of the rewards from block 9122 (164 of 4984). Blocks 9123 through 9126 only had 356, 0, 712, and 356 rewards each, so I didn't bother checking the percentage claimed from those. So it looks like this guy, whoever he is, is able to claim around 3.5% of the rewards in each block, and is working his way backwards through the blocks. According to xploited, the initial distribution ordered the rewards randomly, so there's no reason to think that he won't be able to claim a similar percentage of the rewards from all the blocks. [Edit: it was mentioned to me that this could be interpretted as me saying that someone has found an exploit that lets them dig up so many CLAMs. That's not what I meant at all. I think it's just someone with a huge BTC wallet, possibly from an exchange, laundry, black market, etc. site. I don't suspect foul play of any sort - the transactions are being signed with valid BTC private keys.] 3.5% of the initial distribution means around 517k CLAMs. In which case this digging spree is only just getting started. So what do we do? It's possible I've overlooked something, and this massive influx of freshly dug CLAM isn't really coming our way. If so, please help me see it... Also, here's a new recent-dig chart:  18:45:19 (965827) <@creativecuriosity> For fucks sake doog, choose a longer term dig image graph, lolz. That short term graph looks like a mountain, lmfao. As requested, here's a longer term chart. Note the growth in the number dug at the beginning of December when JD relaunched with CLAM, and the vertical cliff at the beginning of January when a large LTC wallet was dug up:  |
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