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2741  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: May 12, 2016, 10:55:53 AM
signature campaign is the safest way to grow your bitcoin. but you have to take risks to get greater results, you can grow by way of trade.

Well eveybody is agree that only signature campaign is the safest way we all know to grow your bitcoins, and some others are saying go into faucets. But faucet needs to be exert more effort and hard work.

With signature campaigns you can earn coins, but to grow amount you already have you need to invest in something.
Let's be clear what we talking about here. Trading is similar with gambling, cloud mining and landing sites are not safe at all in my opinion.
So million dollar question, how to grow bitcoin amount safly? No how, risk and make more, don't risk and be satisfied with PTC sites, signature campaigns, etc...


I agree, because with signature campaign you will just add and add again to your present bitcoins. But the title says, to grow. Means to make more money. And investing is the best way to grow it but it is not safe because there is no such investment that is safe.

What about self investment? I mean to invest in something like buying a domain and hosting and start your own site, blog or faucet. faucet users may don't get that much money. but as a faucet owner you can make lots of money, you can grow your exist bitcoin by investing your money in faucet and monetizing your site with ads. I think this investment would be better then investing in any strange and unknown site.

I couldn't agree more with you mate, signatures campaign is safe way, we don't receive any risk for it. But I am sure with invest your bitcoin on your own business . Not bad with creating faucet site.
Faucet is very much the advertisement on there. This is will give you many profit from creating faucet site.
Absolutely, me actually does know how to make a website so I cannot make my own faucet. I am only focus on signature campaign and the amount I earn will be use in gambling and trading. Gambling sounds crazy for the many but I am only putting a small amount in it.

i agree without comments.  this is really wonderful guys and im on it now thinking positively.  i building my own status here in the forum the way am really am.  Smiley
So what kind of status are you building then? Are you building a good status for successful traders or some kind of gambling genius who made fortune from it?
2742  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to collect BTC ?? on: May 12, 2016, 10:53:09 AM
1. Faucets
2. Gambling
3. Working for bitcoins (example: translations)
4. Mining
5. Signature campaign
6. Invest/Trading
7. Selling products

Most known methods to win BTC

I think someone should ignore 3 of them, number 1, 2 and 4.
Faucets are just a waste of time, you will be just wasting your time their.
Gambling is a way to get rid of your money, but not a source of income for everyone out there, just some lucky ones.
And mining i've heard is not profitable these days as it costs you a lot of electricity so your profits would go there only if you are talking about offline mining, and if you are talking about cloud mining websites then they are even worst then that.

""And mining i've heard is not profitable these days ...""
Be careful about what you have heard...
One hears so much wrong things here...
Faucets can be interesting if you chose the best ones...and if you have time to waste...

Yup! mining is not already feasible these days as it also depends on your area where you can take advantage of the cheap electricity cost. You can try cloud mining but, I was already fall victims of the scam scrypt.cc site. That is really a bad experience for me because I cash out big that time bu because of greed and so much ignorance on investment I ended up losing some coins.
2743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 12, 2016, 10:50:05 AM
Wow! glad to see with kind of investment coming in for the day. I can tell that this project is legitimate, this will have a good future though. I hope tomorrow at least another 100BTC will be invested so we can see more excitement with our fellow waves lover here. Grin
2744  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2015-16 Play-Off Discussion on: May 12, 2016, 10:47:15 AM
Exactly, Lillard will be able to demand a very high fee when his contract ends. The way he put on a show is amazing, it's like we're seeing an Iverson-led team going against star-studded teams.

He can't demand high fees just because of this performance. That is depends on the salary cap of the team. If one team can offer high salary for him then it's up to him if he will accept it. Smiley

Well, not just for this performance but for the entire season. He brought the team to the playoffs even after the loss of Batum, Aldridge and Matthews which are the 3 guys who helped him last year. This team has no one to send their money to except Lillard but of course it will depend on the financial cap but they have less responsibilities salary wise because most of their starters are more likely a bench player for other teams.

I think CJ Mccolum deserve a shot also for higher salary, if his contract will end and if he continue show his greatness in basketball then must receive a high pay. You have to give the man some increase as the most improve player this year.
2745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are your gambling stats? (Profit/Loss) on: May 12, 2016, 09:02:18 AM
My stats are very bad, because i can not stop to gamble on some of my PD accounts i am - MINUS 9 BTC profit it's hard to stop.
That is very bad, you are already down with a considerable amount of money, maybe you need to gambling with dice. Try to shift in different gambling forms, I suggest you do sports betting and I can assure you if you are a sports lover you will get the enjoyment you want.
2746  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: May 12, 2016, 08:58:50 AM
As of now never experience the best investments site all of them are scam.. better to buy more bitcoins to be invested just to hold or save to your wallet and wait for the price high..

Yes could be like that but I guess not all like that as long as we want to find and thoroughly, and one thing to note is, do not invest in the long term because it is too risky and will possibly be a scam.
Do not rush to invest because the results you will get a higher profit.
Yes, there is a possibility that bitcoin will collapse in the future but I am only seeing it with less probability. The trend now is that bitcoins will continue to rise and that is maybe because of the halving fever.
2747  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: May 12, 2016, 08:57:25 AM
Who would not want to see the bitcoin continuous rising? I agree that it's a benefit for us. Most of us are holding now our btc and waiting for the halving event, I think we have just encouraged. But would everybody can have a positive result after all of this? No one knows. Not everyone can sell their coins when it happens, so we will still depend on the price.

True. We have different opinion so this "halving" will have different impact with different people. Some will profit from it or some may lose. Imaging one person buy 1 bitcoin now and found out after having that price got lower. That will be a painful one with regrets.
Majority of the people in bitcoin community believes that halving will give them a profit because the price of bitcoins will rise. And I am also one of the believers, I will be riding with the majority and hope this time we are right.
2748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling is Exploding on: May 12, 2016, 08:55:49 AM
Using bitcoin to gamble makes it very convenient.  It's easy to transfer money and you can get around the legalities easily.  In fact, gambling could be a niche for bitcoin's longer term success.

I agree with you, with bitcoin most of the gamblers doesn't need to go to physical casinos just to play and gamble their. But with bitcoin they can easily gamble even to their houses through online and using bitcoin as their currency.
That's the beauty of bitcoins, it gives us the opportunity to gamble at our own home and at our desired time. With the presence of the online casinos now, we can bet of different gambling types, like poker, blackjack and my favorite sports betting.
lol where have you been? online casinos already exist since over 20 years ago in 1994 if i remember correctly.

you can gamble at your own home since 1994-1995 , you don't need to go to bar to spin the slots. it is not the main goal of bitcoin in gambling industry.
Maybe he is referring to his country cause I am pretty sure that in US or other developed countries it is easy for the citizens to gamble online. In 3rd world country there is not much of a gambling site and that is illegal in that country.
2749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: May 12, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
If gambling has fixed your life, then you are extremely lucky.  If it has wrecked your life then you have a gambling problem.  For most of us, it is probably neither of the two.  Just bet small amounts and only view it as entertainment and it can be something you do for fun.
Majority of the gamblers wreck their life because they belong to the irresponsible gamblers who does not know how to limit their bets and losses and are not satisfied with there winning. In short those who are greedy will more likely suffer the worst effect of gambling.
2750  Economy / Speculation / Re: sold my alts, all in BTC on: May 12, 2016, 08:52:25 AM
I hope most of the employers can give the employee option to be paid with bitcoin. So that we can use it more.
I am hoping for that to happen as I am seeing it as an awesome way for our pay. In that sense you will now be tax also and your money will even grow if you don't withdraw it all.
2751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: May 12, 2016, 08:51:23 AM
That's for sure there are only a couple of people who don't lose in a long run and most of the
times that are poker players. But if you just play dices and slots you will lose allot in the long run trust me.
can you mention me,which people who doesn't lose in long run gambling?playing on dice or roulete or poker or any gambling?
i think nothing people can keep won in long run,esspesially in dice gambling,its hard to people to won on this game.
Mate there are really people who profit in the long run but they will not come out and say that they profit because they don't want to share there secret and second is nobody would believe them.
2752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: May 12, 2016, 08:46:52 AM
If I where rich I would still gamble simply because i love it and doing it each day.
I Lose too much money but it's so hard for me to stop.

Well if you love doing something, then you can have a passion in doing so but as for gambling there will be a consequence and effect that you might have if your started being addicted to it, so always have a limit in doing it.
That is your decision and that is your life so I have to respect it, but if you feel unhappy while losing your money in gambling then you need to stop already and do not wait for a time that you will be bankrupt.
2753  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: May 12, 2016, 08:44:42 AM
There are several save ways for a gamble but you need to know witch one. If you search
at the right topics you will find allot of save gamble sites. But be careful don't play to much or all in
will not help you to make much profit.
Yes there must be many safe way of gambling. But unfortunately all the methods will not work for one gambler. So finding the right method to gamble safe, we need to spend some time initially. Most of the gamblers lose all their money in that "sometime" itself.
In gambling you need to experience losing first before you find the safest way to gambling. It always depends on the gambler what strategy will apply to him, the most important thing to do is you always have to learn from your mistakes and do not do mistakes over and over again. Follow the golden rules in gambling and you will be safe.
2754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: May 12, 2016, 08:43:13 AM
When i just need like 5% from my balance and need to get it to make my balance even but crying because lost the last bet  Cry

why you crying because lost the last bet? you knew it in gambling only win or lost. not easy to win if you not lucky.
so bet you can affrod to lose.
sometimes i just think to win more but the ending is lost, i'm no mean i'm not lucky i'm on lucky and already have profit but want to make more and then in the end will lost all  Embarrassed

do not be greedy when you play in gambling, it is a mistake many of people to win more and more.
never think that very risky to lose you all money.
Yes, taking risk is gambling is just losing all of our money, we have to take risk but in investment and in gambling we have to go there only for entertainment and not for earning, we only have to invest little amounts in there.
The best way is to be the gambling site rather than playing with them as you surely know the results already. If you have an amount you can invest in an online casino but if you wanna be sure and don't want to be scam then you can make your own.
2755  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: May 12, 2016, 08:41:26 AM
signature campaign is the safest way to grow your bitcoin. but you have to take risks to get greater results, you can grow by way of trade.

Well eveybody is agree that only signature campaign is the safest way we all know to grow your bitcoins, and some others are saying go into faucets. But faucet needs to be exert more effort and hard work.

With signature campaigns you can earn coins, but to grow amount you already have you need to invest in something.
Let's be clear what we talking about here. Trading is similar with gambling, cloud mining and landing sites are not safe at all in my opinion.
So million dollar question, how to grow bitcoin amount safly? No how, risk and make more, don't risk and be satisfied with PTC sites, signature campaigns, etc...


I agree, because with signature campaign you will just add and add again to your present bitcoins. But the title says, to grow. Means to make more money. And investing is the best way to grow it but it is not safe because there is no such investment that is safe.

What about self investment? I mean to invest in something like buying a domain and hosting and start your own site, blog or faucet. faucet users may don't get that much money. but as a faucet owner you can make lots of money, you can grow your exist bitcoin by investing your money in faucet and monetizing your site with ads. I think this investment would be better then investing in any strange and unknown site.

I couldn't agree more with you mate, signatures campaign is safe way, we don't receive any risk for it. But I am sure with invest your bitcoin on your own business . Not bad with creating faucet site.
Faucet is very much the advertisement on there. This is will give you many profit from creating faucet site.
Absolutely, me actually does know how to make a website so I cannot make my own faucet. I am only focus on signature campaign and the amount I earn will be use in gambling and trading. Gambling sounds crazy for the many but I am only putting a small amount in it.
2756  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin go back to bellow $400? on: May 12, 2016, 08:36:16 AM
Bitcoins will go below 400$ after the Halving.

haha, you wish.
those days are over my friend. there is a good buy support in bitcoin that doesn't let the price go down. especially after the halving with all the hype and the decreased supply the price will only rise.

Sub $400 prices aren't really that far away. When whales want to create a massive amount of panic by dumping the price down, others will panic sell and cause the price to tank even further. It's easy to assume the price will go up because of the block halving, but a lot people don't keep in mind that the block halving may already be calculated in the current price for more than 75%.
That is possible but that would not last for long as the trend always tells that the price of bitcoins is going up. This is because many are buying on a day to day basis hoping to gain huge profit after the halving.
2757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Simple NBA Playoffs Betting on: May 12, 2016, 08:34:44 AM
With Curry back Golden State won the game 4 against the Trail Blazers in over time. Curry was pretty absent in the first 3 quarters but in overtime he stepped it up and set another record in overtime.
They have to win one more game to go to the conference finals.

He definitely played like an MVP no doubt but still they have to be careful against Portland.
Tonight will be a blowout win for the warriors, blazers cannot win at warriors home with curry back playing unbelievably good, in addition the crowd is crazy so blazers have to shot tonight.

Still a close game despite Curry being on the floor and the game being on their court. Respect to the Portland team for a job well done, great effort.
Yet it is but how clutch really are the warriors, they wins most of the time if there is a close game until 3q and in the 4q and OT they always dominate their rivals. This team is so deep but blazers did a good job this season, they will probably improve on the next season with some additional of star players.
2758  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: May 12, 2016, 08:31:57 AM
I believe so that it is always a good investment to buy 1 btc today because most of the time bitcoin gets higher and it never stops if ever it goes down it goes up also at some time so it never fail. I would really love to do it the same time and saving some for emergency purposes. I am trying to earn more of btc because i see the beauty on it and the wealth that it can bring in to the world but its just that some people do not know this yet or do not realize how this works. I always knew that bitcoin will change people's opinion on how to have enough money to use.

The price as of now down's to 464 at yobit. It is good to invest today that is worth 1 btc. Before the price increases. You can also buy if you want after the price increase if you want to buy it on higher value rather today. You will save more money if you are going to invest 1 btc today.

lol, stop looking at YOBIT for price of bitcoin, the btc-usd (fiat in general) market are almost dead in that exchanger and the orders are so small on those prices you can't buy/sell in those markets.
I think the current price today is just a reasonable amount for us to buy, I believe that the price will not decrease for this month and even increase in the following month. So, if you are after for the price increase in halving then now is the time to buy.
2759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Simple NBA Playoffs Betting on: May 11, 2016, 03:26:02 AM
OKC has tied the series against the Spurs, Kevin Durant had an amazing fourth quarter he was destroying and went 6 for six in that quarter. If he can maintain this form they can surely beat the Spurs this series and go to the Western Conference finals.

And people telling okc cant even with against spurs. Well done okc. go team
Oh yeah, OKC is a good team, they already beaten the spurs few years back when they face the miami heat in the final. However, my prediction is the spurs will avoid that in happening and they will take the OKC down in game 5.

Yes, Westbrook and Durant are in best shape so it won't be easy to beat that team.
It really saddened me seeing the spurs losing the battle again against the spurs. They just can't contained a more younger and talented team. But I am not losing my hope, I will still back them in game 6 and I am putting my money where my mouth is.
2760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: May 11, 2016, 03:23:32 AM
What's the estimated price per WAVES right now?  Anyone know?
Last time I checked it was about $0.04 cents per Wave.

So does the price go up every time peeps buy or does it go down? I am always confused about that, maybe because it's like 5.30 am here lol.

Also can my Husband join the FB and subscription by email campaign even if he isn't a member of bitcointalk? I would be happy to send in both our i.ds for verification if that was necessary before collecting a bounty.  Smiley.

My stash has just fallen below 2 K WAVES now so I will probably need to collect a few more before the end of the ICO. I don't want to be below 2k WAVES.  Cry

Also can anyone tell me how you are coming to predictions of between 0.75 and 1 usd per WAVE and in what time frame you consider this a viable price? Just interested to know how Peeps come up with these prices.
Speculation everyone these days trying to get rich off their own coins haha

If WAVES is currently @ 0.04 Cents then I am already at a loss because 1909 WAVES has cost me 0.2054998 btc and if it goes down more and more and I end up with only 1k WAVES that means I will be even more at a loss? Or am i misunderstanding the whole ICO process lol, someone enlighten me before I invest more Smiley
It is just very simple the more your waves decreases the more the value increases. Me, I will be happy if my waves will significantly decrease in a daily basis as that would only imply that more investors are coming in.
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