If a crypto currency needs the support of MT Gox to be a success, then that currency was never going to happen beyond miners and exchange rate gambling. Gox is just a tool for converting fiat into crypto, everything else it does is just to milk gambling.
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One thing that is still an unknown is what will happen when new bitcoins can not be minted by miners. Nobody knows for sure what will happen then. So in my opinion bitcoin is much of an alt as anything else, in the sense that we can not possibly know if bitcoins are the greatest "pump n dump" of them all so to speak.
I think you will find that the programmers know quite well how it will progress, and you can learn too, it's open source, learn the algorithms. Remember the number of coins per block halves ever 4 years, and the rate of block creation is 10min target, so grab your spreadsheet and work out when 21million coins will be reached.
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How are the stales in the past 20 minutes? I just finished tweaking some things and I've got 200 accept 4 reject.
It's true, I had no idea I'd be pooling 1200 MH/s
MySQL Queries: Total per hour per minute per second 539 M 4.02 M 67.04 k 1.12 k
Block notifies are going out in about 50ms now, down from 2-35 seconds
If a new block coincides with the 1 minute window when the server takes a backup, it can be delayed a little bit which makes a stale trap.
Just curious, what sort of a hardware spec do you need to support a 1,200MH/s pool rate? I was surprised too how much the net hash rate has rised since BTC-e added FTC earlier. It was around 2,500MH/s jumped up to over 5,000MH/s now back down to just over 4,000MH/s, with a difficulty increase due tomorrow.
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Appreciate the work done here, but cannot connect at the moment, trying both stratum+tcp://stratum.give-me-ltc.com:3333 and http://us-pool.give-me-ltc.com:8080 unsuccessfully. Sit tight. Building new server as we speak. Reply on here will be delayed and the next reply i want to post is when we are back up. What was wrong with the old server? Seemed to work ok for the past couple of weeks.
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I have this FTC pool in a --load-balance setup with an LTC pool using cgminer, it was working well, but for some reason today cgminer keeps dropping fc.dontmine.me and only mining the LTC pool. Has fc.dontmine.me been going up and down, or experiencing lag or similar today?
It seems like all the big FTC pools today have had their fair share of problems. I've had problems with dontmine, is-a-geek and a little bit on featherpool. featherpool seems the most stable currently, but will be back at dontmine.me when the problems are sorted. Perhaps it's an attack on the pools? Or just over capacity? I don't know. I have been having trouble with LTC pools as well today. If this persists for more than a week I am going to have to make my own private pools for reliability and put up with the pathetic slow block discover rate. :-(
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I have this FTC pool in a --load-balance setup with an LTC pool using cgminer, it was working well, but for some reason today cgminer keeps dropping fc.dontmine.me and only mining the LTC pool. Has fc.dontmine.me been going up and down, or experiencing lag or similar today?
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I must say this kind of action speaks to the low emphasis on long-term credibility that this exchange has and a low concern for customers if they are willing to expose them to such volatility purely to fleece them for transaction fees. I think some minimum level of responsible gate-keeping should be practiced by service providers of all kinds to prevent the whole crypto-coin environment from being tarnished by unstable and possibly fraudulent activity, unfortunately none do, the attitude is completely mercenary and "get rich" even amongst entities that should have long-term perspectives, the whole culture is rotten to the core.
I think you just described Wall Street.
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Indeed sun, its not this meaningless 'market capitalization' calculation people throw around, its all about the rates of new coin creation and their sale. So you should compare the actual sale of alts in dollar value to the sale of new BTCs in dollar value. Hypothetically their is a finite pool of people willing to put their dollars into any crypto-coin and they divide it between the available coin choices. These people bid up or down the price of the new coins with virtually no regard for the preexisting coins and miners move around their hash power to arbitrage it.
Now we also need to consider that these new alts are seeing incredibly small volumes of actual liquidation by their miners, just a handful of newly mined coins are determining the valuation of mountains of other coins that just go directly into the miners personal hoard. BTC suffers from the same problem but to a lesser degree. So look at coin volumes produced AND determine how many are actually flowing into exchanges then determine how much money is spent to purchase that flow.
Also the BTC decline over the last 2 days has been entirely caused by a DDoS on SilkRoads.
Except that people aren't putting dollars into these alt-coins, they are putting BTC into them.
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If he sells the fence for 300 bitcoin valued at $100 each $3000 By the time he gets home they're $85 Loss of $450
Big deal, the fence is still worth 300 bitcoins. If you care about dollars, then price the fence in dollars and only take dollars as payment. Once you started pricing goods relative to multiple currencies at once, then you have lost the plot, as exchange rates vary all the time unless the currencies are pegged to each other.
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I am too lazy to do this, but a much better comparison is to compare the hash rates of all the coins together. (remember to divide by 1000 to compare SHA and Scrypt rates)
Also for a bonus cookie compare the increase in alt coin hash rate the the hash rate of Bitcoin and see if there is evidence of people moving away from Bitcoin.
Hash rates are largely irrelevant because each coin eventually changes it's difficulty to maintain a constant creation rate regardless of the hash rate.
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Anyone else think that alternates are hurting the price of BTC?
We keep getting new coins that just have a source code change that have 5 million made the first day, and everyone thinks they should be worth 25 cents. This is bringing money out of the market for BTC, and LTC, because everyone dumps them for these new coins, because by tomorrow they should be worth $1... for a worthless coin that only has the value of trade.
I guess now the only way to make money these days is to design rename the newcoin mine it first and sell it in 3 days.
Rubbish, most alt coins have no way of trading money for them, you have to trade other crypto coin for them eg you have to buy some BTC to trade for the alt-coins, that's called putting money into the BTC marktet.
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Update, since FTC is trading was enabled on BTC-e about 12 hours ago, the FTC hash rate has gone crazy
Net Hash: 5014.7 MH/s
The next difficulty adjustment is in just under 24hours and it will be a big one.
I expect it will go from 82 to well over 120
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I think this deserves the broader forum
4 Mill BTC made in 2 weeks....?
In the last week for so we have seen FTC and if the last two days CNC
FTC has achieved 0.005 BTC already and CNC looks to do at least this, and between them there are circa 800,000,000 Coins
Accordingly we can work out the dilutes BTC, in very broad brush strokes
360000000 0.005 1800000 1.8 million BTC 462000000 0.005 2310000 2.31 million BTC 822000000 0.01 4110000 4.11 BTC 100 21 25.11 0.836320191 83.63201912 <----21M/25.11 M
Thus effectively dropping BTC value by 17% !!!, which is quite close to the drop in the last 2 days
and because of the vast number of coins each 0.001 rise has a massive effect.
It appears that BTC may be diluted (inflated this way) this way
Sounds like nonsense to me. The alt-coins have no effect on BTC whatsoever, they are no different than trading BTC for fiat, or goods and services. They are each a currency on their own, and that's about it. BTC doesn't cease to exist, or cease be mined a block every 10min, just because some new alt-coin appears.
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It's not extrapolation, just simple facts and some math. A 5GH/s Jala is ~30 watts (measured with a Kill-A-Watt). The box contains 2x25GH/s little singles (obviously). So 50GH/s = 300 watts
You don't know how many ASICs are on each board, or the clocks that they are running at, you are just assuming it's similar and extrapolating.
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You could do this using scripts getting the daemon to send payment fired off by a scheduler. Ideally you would want an interface in the client for this though someone could put together an app which would use the daemon to do this task. The problem is if your computer is off or the scheduler/app is not running then no payments would be sent.
Computer off, heaven forbid, it should be mining FTC 24/7 or more! If you have opted to have the daemon start on boot, that could be modified to do tasks.
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A feature that is seriously lacking in coin wallets, it the ability to do periodic payments, eg. automatically pay rent weekly etc.
I think coin wallets should contain most of the features that an Internet banking application would have for fiat currencies, at the moment they are very basic.
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Agree that hoarding makes sense because of lack of economy. But all this tells us that aparently even bitcoin is not that needed or else other businesses besides SR would have flourished. All cryptocoins at the moment are driven only by future prospects of price.
With the exception of Bitcoin which is being used by people to purchase stuff all over the place. See SR or Bitpay for examples.
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In a free market diversity is better. If there is no place for these altcoins they will go away. And bitcoin could use some inflation. Way too many people there hoarding their coins.
Funny how all the problems you mention are solved by fiat money... Maybe you didn't need bitcoins in the first place?
The hoarding is partially due to a lack of things to spend the coins on. Over time that should change. If the tax dept would take them as payment that would be really handy for a lot of people.
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At least something interesting came from that email. New pic of single--->> I take it that's the 50GHs unit. That's like 75% of the performance of an Avalon in such a tiny case. No wonder it's got 4 fans!
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