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2761  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 15, 2016, 03:56:10 PM
A centralized system to force humans to do something, anything, instead of doing nothing I agree with... That is why I love bitcoin...

 Roll Eyes


You can't have anything decentralized about climate. Because if we disagree (as it seems we do) our points of view are not compatible. You believe that we don't have to worry about CO2, I believe we do. We can discuss about it as civil people, but if you can't convince me and I can't convince you, we'll have a problem. Cause I believe that if you pollute it will impact me.

So either we agree on something, either we fight and one of use imposes his point of view to the other. Cause we're not compatible. So a centralized system is mandatory here!


Who do you know believes CO2 is a pollutant, beside yourself? All the plants and trees in the world disagree with you.

A centralized system imposes its will, point of view by force. If you agree with the tyrant then this force is good, if not, then you are meat.

You have a very 1 or 0 position: So either we agree on something, either we fight. This is far from being my position. As proof, you are totally free to use scientific facts and links, as you have been known to do all this time in this thread...





I do have a very 0 or 1 position on this, because I believe your pollution also impacts me. And in fact I didn't know anyone who don't believe CO2 pollutes before coming on this thread. This is the first time I meet people thinking it's not a big deal to produce CO.

I believe you're a bit sarcastic about my use of scientific "facts and links" as you say. The fact is that believe it or not, but in most civilized countries (except USA which is not really civilized), this official poll of EU should be enough of a proof: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-11-1162_en.htm

So as you're a minority in my point of view, it seems logical for you to bring me data/proofs/article and for me to criticize them. You don't want to be convinced about climate change otherwise you wouldn't search ONLY studies AGAINST climate change.

But if you feel in need of proofs of my point of view here we go:

First a very small recap of facts that explain why we should worry a bit: http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/fcons/fcons4.asp
A short but rather complete study explaining the link between CO2 and sea level: http://www.pnas.org/content/110/4/1209.short
And a European report about the link between CO2 and natural disasters: http://www.ecologic.eu/sites/files/project/2013/Brief_CC_and_natural_disasters_scientific_evidence_of_relation_Jan_2006_EP_version.pdf

Satisfied?



I believe you're a bit sarcastic about my use of scientific "facts and links" as you say

The fact is that believe it or not, but in most civilized countries (except USA which is not really civilized)


                                                    - Sent from my Android, iPhone smartphone, while checking my Made In USA Facebook account...





CO2 is the same as your recyclable garbage? No wonder you've helped Levy's sell so many 501s in Europe...
Your opinion is always welcome here. That is the difference between a binary mindset like yours, and not seeing the world in black or white. Sucking up to all those nuclear power plants that help you recharge all those American gadgets you use in your everyday life.

Life is so beautiful. Let's give peace a chance and save a polar bear or two... We can agree on that I hope?


The real question is:
Are satellites and balloons' data a lie?



2762  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The new way police are surveilling you: Calculating your threat ‘score’ on: January 15, 2016, 03:28:05 PM
Anyone read Brave New World, for me that is most likely scenario.
I mean we already calculate threat levels by look
I am not trying to say people are racist but we still are.
Blacks are more scarier than Asians (Let say they have same clothes)

The threat level is just another level of judgmental tendency we have


Are you accusing a black president of being racist because he pushes for so much surveillance? Hmm...

2763  Other / Politics & Society / Re: EPA Dumps One Million Gallons of Wastewater Into Colorado River on: January 15, 2016, 03:22:04 PM



EPA Knew About Michigan Water Contamination For Months Without Telling Public







The Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) top Midwest official knew about the Flint, Michigan drinking water crisis of 2015 months before telling the public, according to a Tuesday report by the The Detroit News.

EPA official Susan Hedman did not publicize the EPA’s concern over Flint’s water quality or the water’s dangerous health concerns. The federal agency instead quietly fought with the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality for at least six months about what should be done.

EPA water expert, Miguel Del Toral, identified potential contamination problems with Flint’s drinking water last February and confirmed the suspicions in April. He authored an internal memo about the problem in June, according to documents obtained by Virginia Tech.

Meanwhile, Hedman became aware of the contamination issue in April. She sought legal advice, but didn’t receive the guidance until November 2014. The American Civil Liberties Union accused Hedman in October of attempting to keep Miguel Del Toral’s memo in-house, downplaying its significance.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/14/epa-knew-about-michigan-water-contamination-for-months-without-telling-the-public/



2764  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: January 15, 2016, 03:15:14 PM



Trump Rents Iowa Theater For Free Showing Of Benghazi Movie, 13 Hours…






Donald Trump has rented space at an Urbandale movie theater and will give Iowans free tickets to a showing of the Benghazi movie that critics of Hillary Clinton have been eagerly awaiting.

“Mr. Trump would like all Americans to know the truth about what happened at Benghazi,” the GOP presidential candidate’s Iowa co-chair Tana Goertz said Thursday night.

Trump will pay for the showing of 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi at 6 p.m. Friday at the Carmike Cobblestone 9 Theatre, Goertz said.

“The theater is paid for. The tickets are paid for. You just have to RSVP,” she said.

The movie depicts the terrorist raid on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya on Sept. 11, 2012. It reportedly makes no mention of Clinton, then the U.S. secretary of State, but has again raised the topic of the Democratic presidential candidate’s role in the tragedy, three months after Republicans grilled her on her response to the attacks during an 11-hour congressional hearing in October.

Trump, a billionaire New York real estate entrepreneur, flies to Iowa for a 10 a.m. campaign rally on Friday at Living History Farms in Urbandale. He’s currently in second place in the GOP presidential race here, trailing Texas Sen. Ted Cruz by 3 points, the latest Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics Iowa Poll shows.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/01/15/trump-rents-iowa-theater-show-benghazi-movie/78833638/


2765  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The new way police are surveilling you: Calculating your threat ‘score’ on: January 15, 2016, 03:11:34 PM
You can trust the politicians to put a positive spin on it.
This would make the streets "safer".
"If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't be worried."


Yep.


2766  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 15, 2016, 03:05:20 PM



Climate Alarmists Invent New Excuse: The Satellites Are Lying







The climate alarmists have come up with a brilliant new excuse to explain why there has been no “global warming” for nearly 19 years.


Turns out the satellite data is lying.




And to prove it they’ve come up with a glossy new video starring such entirely trustworthy and not at all biased climate experts as Michael “Hockey Stick” Mann , Kevin “Travesty” Trenberth and Ben Santer. (All of these paragons of scientific rectitude feature heavily in the Climategate emails)

The video is well produced and cleverly constructed – designed to look measured and reasonable rather than yet another shoddy hit job in the ongoing climate wars.

Sundry “experts”, adopting a tone of “more in sorrow than anger” gently express their reservations about the reliability of the satellite data which, right up until the release of this video, has generally been accepted as the most accurate gauge of global temperatures.

This accuracy was acknowledged 25 years ago by NASA, which said that “satellite analysis of the upper atmosphere is more accurate, and should be adopted as the standard way to monitor temperature change.”

More recently, though, climate alarmists have grown increasingly resentful of the satellite temperature record because of its pesky refusal to show the warming trend they’d like it to show. Instead of warming, the RSS and UAH satellite data shows that the earth’s temperatures have remained flat for over 18 years – the so-called “Pause.”

Hence the alarmists’ preference for the land- and sea-based temperature datasets which do show a warming trend – especially after the raw data has been adjusted in the right direction. Climate realists, however, counter that these records have all the integrity of Enron’s accounting system or of Hillary’s word on what really happened in Benghazi.

Given the embarrassment the satellite data has been causing alarmists in recent years – most recently at the Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)
97%
“Data or Dogma” hearing last December – it was almost inevitable that sooner or later they would try to discredit it.

In the video, the line taken by the alarmists is that the satellite records too have been subject to dishonest adjustments and that the satellites have given a misleading impression of global temperature because of the way their orbital position changes over time.

These sound plausible criticisms till you look at this graph provided by one of the scientists criticized in the video, John Christy of the University of Alabama, Huntsville.






What it shows is how closely the satellite data corresponds with measurements taken using a completely independent system – balloons. If the satellites are lying then so are the balloons.

Christy told Breitbart:

    There are too many problems with the video on which to comment, but here are a few.

    First, the satellite problems mentioned here were dealt with 10 to 20 years ago. Second, the main product we use now for greenhouse model validation is the temperature of the Mid-Troposphere (TMT) which was not erroneously impacted by these problems.

    The vertical “fall” and east-west “drift” of the spacecraft are two aspects of the same phenomenon – orbital decay.

    The real confirmation bias brought up by these folks to smear us is held by them.  They are the ones ignoring information to suit their world view.  Do they ever say that, unlike the surface data, the satellite datasets can be checked by a completely independent system – balloons? Do they ever say that one of the main corrections for time-of-day (east-west) drift is to remove spurious WARMING after 2000?  Do they ever say that the important adjustment to address the variations caused by solar-shadowing effects on the spacecraft is to remove a spurious WARMING?  Do they ever say that the adjustments were within the margin of error?

He adds:

    I’m impressed someone went to so much trouble and expense.  The “satellite data” must be a real problem for someone. Do we know who financed this video?

Yes, we do. It was made by the Yale Climate Connection and part funded by the Grantham Foundation. The Grantham Foundation is the creation of a UK born US based hedge funder called Jeremy Grantham (and his wife Hannelore) and has since 1997 been at the forefront of promoting climate alarmism.

Among the beneficiaries of Grantham’s green largesse are Lord Stern — author of the heavily discredited Stern Report, now with a cosy sinecure at the Grantham Institute — and Bob Ward, a failed paleopiezometrist and crop-headed pit bull impersonator who is lavishly funded to write angry letters to newspapers and other institutions explaining in boring detail why climate change sceptics are evil and wrong.

As for the motivation behind this well-funded smear video – it’s actually explained at the website which is promoting it.

    In coming days, we will hear announcements from NASA, NOAA and others that 2015 was the hottest year in the modern instrumental record.

    There will be pushback from the likes of climate denier Ted Cruz, who uses a misreading of satellite temperature data to claim, as he did on Seth Meyer’s show – “no warming in 18  years”

    This is the story of how that distortion came to be.

In other words it’s yet another case of the increasingly desperate climate alarmists playing their usual game:

If the facts don’t suit your discredited theory, change the facts.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/15/climate-alarmists-invent-new-excuse-the-satellites-are-lying/



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"Yo balloon! Don't be a fool, Stop Snitchin'! Don't play dat satellite game yo! Computer model FYI yo! Come on bro!"




2767  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 15, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
A centralized system to force humans to do something, anything, instead of doing nothing I agree with... That is why I love bitcoin...

 Roll Eyes


You can't have anything decentralized about climate. Because if we disagree (as it seems we do) our points of view are not compatible. You believe that we don't have to worry about CO2, I believe we do. We can discuss about it as civil people, but if you can't convince me and I can't convince you, we'll have a problem. Cause I believe that if you pollute it will impact me.

So either we agree on something, either we fight and one of use imposes his point of view to the other. Cause we're not compatible. So a centralized system is mandatory here!


Who do you know believes CO2 is a pollutant, beside yourself? All the plants and trees in the world disagree with you.

A centralized system imposes its will, point of view by force. If you agree with the tyrant then this force is good, if not, then you are meat.

You have a very 1 or 0 position: So either we agree on something, either we fight. This is far from being my position. As proof, you are totally free to use scientific facts and links, as you have been known to do all this time in this thread...



2768  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: January 14, 2016, 10:32:25 PM



This Donald Trump crowd shot from Florida will wow you


Donald Trump took his front-running campaign for the Republican presidential nomination to Pensacola, Fla., on Wednesday night.  And, holy cow, did people come out in droves to see him.

Here's a photo of the crowd taken by WaPo's own Jenna Johnson.





Trump's campaign claimed it gave out 20,000 tickets; the arena holds 11,500 people. According to Jenna's reporting, there were "at least 11,000" in attendance and "several thousand more were turned away." Here's a look at the line waiting to get in via NBC embed Ali Vitali:

https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/687415682510798853

Large crowds are the rule, not the exception, at this point for Trump. He had 8,000 people in Lowell, Mass., earlier this month; more than 2,000 showed up in Burlington, Vt., -- not exactly a conservative enclave -- to hear Trump speak last week.

I've written a lot about crowd sizes this election and how they remain an uncertain indicator of actual support. But, Trump's ability to draw thousands and thousands of people to hear him speak this close to actual voting -- we are 19 days from the Iowa caucuses -- suggests to me that the enthusiasm and passion he has sparked among a certain segment of the GOP base isn't going anywhere any time soon.

And, judging from the packed house in Pensacola, Trump might be getting stronger, not weaker, as Iowa draws ever closer -- a prospect that will send a shiver down the collective spine of the Washington political establishment.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/13/this-donald-trump-crowd-shot-from-florida-will-wow-you/


2769  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 14, 2016, 10:21:27 PM
You may find this of interest.  Keep in mind these sorts of articles are often highly speculative, but still worth reviewing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/01/13/scientists-say-humans-have-basically-canceled-the-next-ice-age/?postshare=1791452710414197&tid=ss_tw

Here is the actual article print.

http://www.nature.com/articles/nature16494.epdf?referrer_access_token=ozTSCaB0lyelSRTWwlncYdRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Nnp0x6oazde2YSWXfqxcE5e6t9gAzUt9lu7e6WSDVZ241X9dPiozKLtf3BYyMTSqIHQIgVAurDgIdbRA7DmktIOpRHyFw09GYfR3yKJ6MCwABfUX2uwcCfY_fuK06xxr7LDw8Cfd0Ph0fpiEcbMARGndvz8-zXJBxCz5DqNEzxo_181kx8kcm09fYlhVb-7Vslemt4GmHzyIuZ8RuZMXEpgCqWD3heyVL9EBCY_YKp8gOi6fjjh1vNtDa0IydvGy5Bm1Eq7Bf9FF9MJjZuQn4Wav42oWIzykJrX0Jj5HRXJg%3D%3D&tracking_referrer=www.washingtonpost.com

Using this data set and general direction of thinking, the contemporary version of Pascal's Wager you mentioned may be turned inside out:

Regarding use of political force and taxing authority to penalize carbon emissions, can you be reasonably sure that the effect of these measures will not provoke or accelerate the next ice age? 

Interesting articles. I like the idea of humanity being able to control the global climate of Earth  Grin

But as you said in a previous post, most of the problem is to make whole humanity advance in the same direction. This would need an international government, the discussion between countries can't lead to anything.

I still think it's better to try something than just sitting here saying "meh, we can't know, it won't work"

And about what you said about politics robbing people and missusing money: it's not a proof of anything. Politicians rob the people all the time for everything, you can't say that because they don't do things well things shouldn't be done. If you take that into account then let me be straight: we shouldn't do anything. Any law voted at the moment was made by and for the rich. Banks lead the world and the three richest families decide of everything.

But if you want to actually discuss you got to ignore those facts, otherwise you can't conclude anything else but "we should take them, hang them, then think again about what we can do"  Grin


A centralized system to force humans to do something, anything, instead of doing nothing I agree with... That is why I love bitcoin...

 Roll Eyes


2770  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: January 14, 2016, 10:13:01 PM






2771  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: January 14, 2016, 08:49:19 PM
Yes. It always matters whether a person is honest and trustworthy. How is this even a question?
 
However, that said, even a mostly honest and trustworthy person can have lapses in judgment, or make the wrong call thereby seeming untrustworthy. That's just part of humanity's natural condition.
 
Also, this question should not be assigned to a single politician if you ask me. Doing so presupposes that one politician's trustworthiness is more important than another's. We, the electorate, will want all of our candidates to demonstrate qualities of honesty and trustworthiness. In this way, the answer is really a resounding, "No!" It doesn't matter if Hillary Clinton is individually honest and trustworthy any more than it matters for any politician in the field.


In this thread the subject is harpy clinton and how honest she is, 24/7... Nothing else really.


2772  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: January 14, 2016, 08:46:15 PM
That's the problem! The extra money held by the uber-rich is not creating jobs, That money is going into overseas accounts and foreign investments.



Clinton Foundation Running Private Equity Fund in Colombia


http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-foundation-running-private-equity-fund-in-colombia/



2773  Other / Politics & Society / Adios Al Jazeera America. The network closes its door. on: January 14, 2016, 04:05:52 PM




    Al Jazeera America, the low-rated cable news network that sought to take on Fox News and CNN, will shut down operations at the end of April, less than three years after going on the air, the network told its staff Wednesday in a surprise move…

    AJA hoped to be a straightforward, non-partisan alternative to other news channels and was often praised by news analysts for the thoroughness and objectivity of its reporting. It hired a number of TV news veterans as program hosts and managers, including people from NBC, CNN and Fox News.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/al-jazeera-america-news-channel-to-close-up-shop/2016/01/13/aa3ab180-ba1f-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html


2774  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Europe, you reap what you sow... on: January 13, 2016, 02:42:32 PM



Migrant crisis: Coach full of British schoolchildren 'ATTACKED by Calais refugees'




The youngsters were left terrified after a gang of thugs targeted their bus as it travelled through the notorious port town in the early hours of Monday morning.

One child was said to have suffered an epileptic fit following the horrifying attack which marred the end of a dream school trip for the children, some of whom are as young as 12.

The harrowing incident also underlines the growing violence of migrants in Calais, who are now arming themselves and resorting to increasingly desperate methods in their attempts to reach Britain.

Terrified truckers have repeatedly warned that it is only a matter of time before someone is killed as clashes with migrants become both more heated and regular.

The coach was carrying 35 children from Portree High School, on the Isle of Skye, and nine teachers when violent migrants pelted it with rocks early this morning.

Officials said it was fortunate none of the youngsters were hurt in the horrific attack, although one child reportedly received medical treatment after suffering an epileptic seizure in the aftermath.

Drew Millar, a local councillor on Skye, said: "My information is that the bus taking the children through Calais was attacked by migrants.

"There was damage done to the bus and they were able to continue on and were lucky no-one was injured."

He added: “I have heard that the children are all safe and there were no injuries. It happened during the night while they were on the way home.

"The bus was attacked by migrants and at least one window was broken.

“It was decided that, rather than stop the bus, they should carry on.

“I believe they were getting another coach to take them back home.

“There was one pupil who needed treatment but that was due to a medical problem that was resolved.”

The pupils had been returning from a week-long ski trip in the Italian resort of Aosta when the attack unfolded.

A Highland Council spokesman said: “There was an incident when the bus came under attack.

"The good news is all of the children are fine. They are making their way north just now.”

The infamous Jungle Camp, which is home to 7,000 migrants, has effectively became a permanent settlement after the French Government opened a £20million scheme to rehouse more than 1,500 migrants in converted shipping containers.

There has also been a furious reaction to proposed plans to build a 'Sangatte II' camp at nearby Dunkirk, with Tory MP Tim Loughton blasting the development as "extremely unhelpful".


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/633689/Calais-migrant-crisis-refugees-attack-British-school-coach-rocks-violence


2775  Other / Politics & Society / The new way police are surveilling you: Calculating your threat ‘score’ on: January 13, 2016, 01:57:49 PM







    Sticks and stones may break my bones. But names will never hurt me.


That old rhyme has been conventional wisdom for those bred in common sense and thick skins. But that world is fading away.

Its replacement is a now-cemented system of political correctness, ideological division, egg shell floors and, of course, always listening, always watching “big brothers” and “parental supervisors” who keep a look out, even if they assume you are doing nothing wrong.

Be that as it may, what you say, and what is said about you is now more likely than ever to land you in trouble with the law, or disqualify you for employment, promotion, government benefits or other opportunities.

The Washington Post reports:

    Perhaps the most controversial and revealing technology is the threat-scoring software Beware. Fresno is one of the first departments in the nation to test the program.

    As officers respond to calls, Beware automatically runs the address. The searches return the names of residents and scans them against a range of publicly available data to generate a color-coded threat level for each person or address: green, yellow or red.

    Exactly how Beware calculates threat scores is something that its maker, Intrado, considers a trade secret, so it is unclear how much weight is given to a misdemeanor, felony or threatening comment on Facebook. However, the program flags issues and provides a report to the user.

    In promotional materials, Intrado writes that Beware could reveal that the resident of a particular address was a war veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, had criminal convictions for assault and had posted worrisome messages about his battle experiences on social media.

    […]

    Rob Nabarro, a Fresno civil rights lawyer… said the fact that only Intrado — not the police or the public — knows how Beware tallies its scores is disconcerting. He also worries that the system might mistakenly increase someone’s threat level by misinterpreting innocuous activity on social media, like criticizing the police, and trigger a heavier response by officers.

    “A police call is something that can be very dangerous for a citizen.”

It now matters if you are labeled by the mental health system with a “condition.” It also matters what you say on Facebook to aloof “friends” – the mere suggestion of wrong-doing counts towards your score as a threat to the system.

Not only has your permanent record been kept and used against you, but the informal chatter and “keywords” that fill up the spaces of life previously reserved for leisure and private life is now fair game for law enforcement “threat assessment.”

For some time now, police have followed up on threats of violence posted in comment threads, particularly if they threaten violence against a high profile politician or celebrity.

But now, they are armed with the “buzz” of background minutia about a person, too – which may or may not legitimately characterize intended criminal and illicit behavior. Guilt by association prevails. Like so many other surveillance technologies, theyscan in the background, with little or no presence in the lives of the people it watches.

The Washington Post gave an interesting intro to this feature piece on Beware, noting how much surveillance already goes into routine police business. Society is already in murky waters.

This is a peep into the modern day “fusion center” where associations are everything, and investigations are frequently preemptive, following profile models:

    On a recent Monday afternoon, the center was a hive of activity. The police radio crackled over loudspeakers — “subject armed with steel rod” — as five operators sat behind banks of screens dialing up a wealth of information to help units respond to the more than 1,200 911 calls the department receives every day.

    On 57 monitors that cover the walls of the center, operators zoomed and panned an array of roughly 200 police cameras perched across the city. They could dial up 800 more feeds from the city’s schools and traffic cameras, and they soon hope to add 400 more streams from cameras worn on officers’ bodies and from thousands from local businesses that have surveillance systems.

    The cameras were only one tool at the ready. Officers could trawl a private database that has recorded more than 2 billion scans of vehicle licenses plates and locations nationwide. If gunshots were fired, a system called ShotSpotter could triangulate the location using microphones strung around the city. Another program, called Media Sonar, crawled social media looking for illicit activity. Police used it to monitor individuals, threats to schools and hashtags related to gangs.

One thing is certain: this is the near-future world of “Minority Report” has arrived on scene. It is already in its first phase of life, and most of the public still hasn’t imagined its form or capabilities. The government they fear has dawned upon us, but its face is not the familiar one of the opposing political camp, or the aspiring totalitarian despot. It is a hive army of technological and bureaucratic soldiers, come to eat out our substance and the Declaration of Independence warned in the long-train of abuses.

The whisper campaign at its most dreadful. A world where a random police call could become a Gestapo nightmare. Where thought crimes are bred. Orwell, P.K.D., etc. were right (but what else is new?).


http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/01/13/are-you-a-threat-police-software-scans-your-social-media-very-dangerous-for-a-citizen/


2776  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: January 13, 2016, 01:32:11 PM



Donald Trump Reads The Snake Lyric At Campaign Rally Referring To Immigration | Jan.12th 2016


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu6_2hFTw74&feature=share


 CEDAR FALLS, Iowa — What does an Al Wilson song from 1968 have to do with the current Syrian refugee crisis?

In one of his shortest campaign speeches yet (Trump's typical hour was shortened a mere 38 minutes Tuesday night) the GOP front-runner hit all of his usual talking points with an unusually serious, professorial tone — and also managed to answer that question.

In what could be read as a rhetorical counter to President Obama's eloquent speaking style and often-anecdotal way of presenting policies to voters, Trump employed a never-before-seen tactic on the trail Tuesday evening: A dramatic reading, glasses and all, of Al Wilson's "The Snake."

The song, which has an old-school R&B beat, paints a picture of a trusting woman (read: America) who invites a snake into her home, saving him from freezing. Ultimately, as she "clutched him to her bosom" he bites her.

When she asks why he did that after all she'd done for him, the "vicious" reptile replies "oh shut up silly woman ... you knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in."

Upon finishing the recitation, the crowd cheered. "That's right!" one man cried out.

"Does that make sense?" Trump asked the clapping crowd of about 1,000 people gathered in the University of Northern Iowa gymnasium. "Hopefully that's not gonna be the case," he said, referencing the controversial decision of whether or not to take Syrian refugees into the country.

During what some called Trump's personal pre-buttal to the State of the Union, his attacks on the president were mostly standard. He called out incompetence among the ranks of America's leaders, especially in regards to the Iran Deal, which Trump views as a harbinger for situations like the one in which Iran held two small Navy boats carrying 10 U.S. sailors earlier Tuesday.

Trump even joked that he might not watch the State of the Union, but quickly did an about face, saying that he had to watch in order to see "what the hell's going on because he [Obama] doesn't know, so somebody has to."

While he went after Ted Cruz for questions about his natural born citizenship, he lacked his signature bombastic flair, instead explaining that he's raising these questions "for the party" and "for Ted" not so that he can win "on a technicality."

He did, however, reassure that these questions about Cruz were a "big, big factor" and should be taken seriously.

In a departure from his prior pleas to Iowans to register and remember to vote on February 1st, Trump didn't ask for votes on this single-digit temp night Iowa Tuesday night.

Instead, he made a case for his electability, based on the fact that he's leading decisively everywhere but Iowa and that if he wins there, "I think we're gonna run the table."


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/snake-trump-poetry-slams-syrian-refugees-allegorical-song-n495311


The Snake - Al Wilson



AL WILSON
"The Snake"
(Oscar Brown Jr.)

On her way to work one morning
Down the path along side the lake
A tender hearted woman saw a poor half frozen snake
His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
"Poor thing," she cried, "I'll take you in and I'll take care of you"
"Take me in tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake

She wrapped him all cozy in a comforter of silk
And laid him by her fireside with some honey and some milk
She hurried home from work that night and soon as she arrived
She found that pretty snake she'd taken to had bee revived
"Take me in, tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake

She clutched him to her bosom, "You're so beautiful," she cried
"But if I hadn't brought you in by now you might have died"
She stroked his pretty skin again and kissed and held him tight
Instead of saying thanks, the snake gave her a vicious bite
"Take me in, tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake

"I saved you," cried the woman
"And you've bitten me, but why?
You know your bite is poisonous and now I'm going to die"
"Oh shut up, silly woman," said the reptile with a grin
"You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in
"Take me in, tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake



2777  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: January 13, 2016, 01:25:20 PM


http://freebeacon.com/blog/disgraced-former-lehman-brothers-ceo-and-major-democratic-donor-refuses-to-apologize-for-role-in-2008-financial-crisis/

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in 1999-2016
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Harpy was a New York senator and had to campaign (easy) for the position.




Okay.

And the Red Arrow for Sillary?

That means she's a Commie and a Dyke?

Evil Commie, yeah. Can't really blame her turning into a Dyke... I mean... Bill. Nuff said.



I have to admit you have a point.  Let me change it around.

That means she's an EVIL Commie and an EVIL Dyke?

(I do know people in communist countries who basically agree with their government, whom I would not describe as evil.  Unfortunate, but not evil.)

Yes, she is an EVIL Dyke.

2778  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Iran holds two US Navy boats in Persian Gulf on: January 12, 2016, 11:35:59 PM
this is a really really bad news, I  hope this resolve quickly!


At least it will be resolved in the US media quickly, so not to embarrass 0bama tonight during his live lying show...


2779  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Iran holds two US Navy boats in Persian Gulf on: January 12, 2016, 11:20:25 PM



Top Dem: Iran's naval seizure 'endangers' nuclear deal



    “I think it endangers everything, I really do,” Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., the panel’s ranking member, told the Washington Examiner.

    “I’m outraged, and Iran needs to release these people as soon as possible or else it would be unthinkable or impossible to make further progress with them on anything as far as I am concerned,” he said.



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2580269/


2780  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Oregon Musician Traveling To ISIS Controlled Syria To Sing For Peace… on: January 12, 2016, 11:15:11 PM

Prepare for the next absurd green-screen beheading hoax.  Or maybe they'll start to 'do it live' as O'Reilly might say.  People are starting to wise up to these more humane style of psy-ops.




Vote "to come back safe and sound"


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