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Does she represent the progressive's wet dream?



She will be end of american dream. she has two personality . one side represents evil the other one represents goodness.
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January 09, 2016, 03:45:10 PM
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She will be end of american dream. she has two personality . one side represents evil the other one represents goodness.

More like: one side represents evil and the other one represents more evil.

If Israel is destroyed, I will devote the rest of my life to the extermination of the human species. Any species that goes down this road again less than 100 years after the holocaust needs to be fucking wiped out.
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January 09, 2016, 03:49:46 PM
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She will be end of american dream. she has two personality . one side represents evil the other one represents goodness.

More like: one side represents evil and the other one represents more evil.


Much more accurate description.


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January 10, 2016, 10:52:29 AM
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I saw some email stuff where someone´s fax wasn´t working and she told an aide to remove the classified tag or whatever they call it from the email so it could be sent that way.

There are pretty strict laws regarding official correspondence in the United States, right? The country has been and is at war and of course diplomats and others are constantly shuttling to and fro around the world. It´s a dangerous situation. You want to be extremely secure. Loose lips sink ships they used to say. Why hasn´t she been indicted? Are they still collecting evidence? What if the case is ready say Sept. 1 next? It goes under the carpet?

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January 10, 2016, 11:00:58 AM
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OK, I´m brain dead. It is already up there with Hillary in Orange. It´s the same story I saw.

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January 10, 2016, 04:51:13 PM
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The rape allegation against Bill Clinton, explained


On Wednesday, Juanita Broaddrick tweeted a reminder of her allegation that Bill Clinton raped her during his campaign for governor of Arkansas in 1978:





Over the phone, Broaddrick confirmed to me that the account is hers, and said she was moved to tweet because she was sickened by seeing the Clintons on the campaign trail again. "I guess it was just seeing them on TV so much now, and her with the Benghazi [hearing]," Broaddrick says. "That was impossible, to watch her during that, and now having to see her on the TV, and on the TV campaigning, it's torture. I have to grab and switch my TV every time I turn around."

Broaddrick's allegation started resurfacing this fall, after Hillary Clinton made a number of statements on the importance of believing rape accusers. On December 3, a couple of weeks after Clinton tweeted, "Every survivor of sexual assault deserves to be heard, believed, and supported," a woman at an event in Hooksett, New Hampshire, asked, "Secretary Clinton, you recently came out to say that all rape victims should be believed. But would you say that Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones be believed as well?" Clinton replied, "Well, I would say that everyone should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence." The audience applauded:

Then, this past Sunday, Hillary Clinton faced a loud and persistent heckler yelling about Broaddrick at a Derry, New Hampshire, campaign event, eventually dismissing the woman in strident fashion. "You are very rude, and I'm not going to ever call on you," Clinton declared, sparking a standing ovation from the crowd.

In statements to reporters and a long Facebook update posted after the rally, the heckler — a Republican state representative named Katherine Prudhomme-O’Brien — explained that she wanted Clinton to address allegations that Bill Clinton had sexually assaulted Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey. Willey claims that Clinton fondled her breast and forced her hand on his crotch in the Oval Office in 1993, when she was a White House volunteer. Though Prudhomme-O'Brien didn't mention her, Paula Jones — an Arkansas state employee who sued Clinton for allegedly exposing himself to her when he was governor in 1991 — is often included in this list of accusers as well.

So far, this issue has mostly been raised by conservative media and Republican politicians like Prudhomme-O'Brien. But it's a substantive matter worthy of coverage from non-right-wing outlets as well. There really are multiple accusations of sexual assault against Bill Clinton, accusations that have too often been conflated with his much better-established and much less morally concerning history of adultery. Are the women making these accusations survivors who deserve to be believed, to borrow Hillary Clinton's language? Or, as she later insisted, have their accusations all been found to be baseless?

The basic answer is that some of the claims appear more credible than others. There are three main accusers, of whom it seems by far the most credible — based on the publicly available evidence — is Broaddrick. Jones's claim was aired for years and faced several major problems (including the fact that she claimed the president's penis had a "distinguishing mark" that doctors and Monica Lewinsky said it did not have), and Willey repeatedly lied to federal investigators and changed her story dramatically between grand jury testimony and a deposition in the Jones case (among other issues).

But Broaddrick's allegation, while hardly proven, has not been definitively refuted. Only Broaddrick and Bill Clinton know what the truth of the matter in the case is. But if one generally believes it's important to believe the victim, it's hard to argue that this case should be an exception.
What Juanita Broaddrick says Bill Clinton did

Juanita Broaddrick gave a lengthy account of her alleged rape in a 1999 Dateline NBC interview (which has been posted in its entirety by the right-wing Media Research Center; the anti-Clinton site Shadowgov.com has a transcript that aligns with the NBC recording):

The interview was conducted on January 20, 1999, before the Senate on February 12 ultimately acquitted Clinton on charges related to his affair with Monica Lewinsky. NBC delayed airing until February 24, and Broaddrick, frustrated, gave accounts to the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the Washington Post, and the New York Times in the meantime.

In 1978, Broaddrick was volunteering for Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, and claims she met him when he visited his campaign office in her hometown of Van Buren, Arkansas, that April. She says he then invited her to visit his office in Little Rock, which Broaddrick agreed to do a week later, when she was in the state capitol for a conference of nursing home administrators. Once she was at a hotel in Little Rock, she claims Clinton told her that he wasn't going to the campaign headquarters and offered to meet her in her hotel lobby coffee shop instead. Once he arrived, she says he called her room and suggested that they have coffee there, since the lobby had too many reporters. Broaddrick says she agreed. Then, per the Post story:

    As she tells the story, they spent only a few minutes chatting by the window -- Clinton pointed to an old jail he wanted to renovate if he became governor -- before he began kissing her. She resisted his advances, she said, but soon he pulled her back onto the bed and forcibly had sex with her. She said she did not scream because everything happened so quickly. Her upper lip was bruised and swollen after the encounter because, she said, he had grabbed onto it with his mouth.

    "The last thing he said to me was, 'You better get some ice for that.' And he put on his sunglasses and walked out the door," she recalled.

Several friends of Broaddrick's backed up the story. Norma Rogers, who was the director of nursing at Broaddrick's nursing home at the time, told reporters that she entered the hotel room shortly after the assault allegedly took place and "found Mrs. Broaddrick crying and in 'a state of shock.' Her upper lip was puffed out and blue, and appeared to have been hit." Kelsey elaborated to the New York Times, "She told me he forced himself on her, forced her to have intercourse."

In the Dateline show, Broaddrick's friends Louise Ma, Susan Lewis, and Jean Darden (Norma Rogers's sister) all told NBC News that Broaddrick told them Bill Clinton raped her at the time. David Broaddrick — with whom Broaddrick was having an affair at the time; they both eventually left their spouses to marry each other — also told NBC that Broaddrick's top lip was black after the alleged incident, and that she told him "that she had been raped by Bill Clinton."

Broaddrick claims she was traumatized by the incident and scared of Clinton's influence, and so didn't report the rape or tell her then-husband, Gary Hickey. Three weeks later, Broaddrick would attend a Clinton fundraiser with Hickey. She told NBC News reporter Lisa Myers, "I think I was still in denial that time exactly what had happened to me. I still felt very guilty at that time that it was my fault." She further claimed that Clinton called her nursing home a half-dozen times that year, getting through once and asking when she was going to be back in Little Rock; she told him she wasn't.

In 1979, Broaddrick was appointed by Clinton to a non-paid advisory board position, which she told Myers she accepted before she knew it was a gubernatorial appointment. In 1984, she claims she got a letter from Clinton after her nursing home was recognized as one of the top facilities in the state, with a handwritten note saying, "I admire you very much." She interpreted that as a thank you for her silence. Then in 1991, she says she saw Clinton outside a meeting on nursing home standards in Little Rock, and that he said he wanted to apologize to her and asked what he could do to make things right. She recalls saying, "Nothing," and walking away.

About six months after her initial interviews in 1999, Broaddrick told the Drudge Report that mere weeks after the alleged assault, Hillary Clinton had tried to thank her for her silence on the matter at a political rally:

    "[Hillary] came directly to me as soon as she hit the door. I had been there only a few minutes, I only wanted to make an appearance and leave. She caught me and took my hand and said 'I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill.' I started to turn away and she held onto my hand and reiterated her phrase -- looking less friendly and repeated her statement — 'Everything you do for Bill'. I said nothing. She wasn't letting me get away until she made her point. She talked low, the smile faded on the second thank you. I just released her hand from mine and left the gathering."

This wasn't included in the initial reports on Broaddrick's story by the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, New York Times, and NBC News. But after this article's initial publication, Lisa Myers, who conducted NBC News' initial report on Broaddrick, wrote Vox to clarify that Broaddrick did tell NBC that Hillary Clinton had an encounter with her after the alleged assault, though this did not make the final cut of the Dateline segment. So this was not an new addition to or change in Broaddrick's story, even though it became public months later. Broaddrick repeated the claim in 2003 in an interview with Fox News's Sean Hannity:

Before going public, Broaddrick had been courted to come forward about the allegations by Clinton enemies for years. She told reporters that an anti-Clinton businessman in Arkansas named Philip Yoakum urged her to come forward in 1992, during Clinton's presidential campaign. When Paula Jones sued Clinton for sexual harassment in 1994, Jones’s lawyers also approached Broaddrick, who declined to cooperate. She only came forward after she was interviewed by independent counsel Kenneth Starr's office and her allegation leaked. Broaddrick told the Journal that Myers pursued her for nearly a year before she agreed to an interview, and that she came forward because she wanted to rebut false rumors circulating after her statements to prosecutors (like that David Broaddrick had accepted hush money from the Clintons in exchange for silence).


http://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick




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January 11, 2016, 11:33:26 AM
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These emails are a true treasure trove. The Libya mails give a great insight into how the war scammers feed the garbage media and with it the masses. Remember Viagra? Total fabrication. Humanitarian concerns. Non-existent. And so on. Why these people aren´t before a war crimes tribunal along with scammers from other wars

is totally beyond me.

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January 11, 2016, 11:35:03 AM
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I mean, 70 years ago people were hanged for starting a war of aggression on false pretenses. At the very least their current colleagues should be taken out of circulation.

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January 11, 2016, 02:06:03 PM
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Hillary: By ordering “identifying headings” removed, I meant “don’t transmit classified info,” or something






“Aren’t you ordering [Jake Sullivan] to violate the laws on handling classified material there?” John Dickerson confronted the Friday e-mail release from Hillary Clinton’s secret e-mail server head-on in an interview with the former Secretary of State yesterday on Face the Nation. Hillary responded by attempting to spin, leaving Dickerson unconvinced at best. “As the State Department said just this week,” Hillary replied, “that didn’t happen.” Actually, what the State Department said was that they had no records to show what happened, but … forget it, she’s rolling. Dickerson presses onward:

    The sensitive nature of the crisis was underscored by one June 15 email Princeton Lyman, the special envoy to Sudan, sent to a group of State Department officials, including Sullivan, apprising them of developments in the region. The bulk of the email is classified as confidential. It is unclear if any of that information was included in the talking points Sullivan was preparing for Clinton.

    On June 16, Sullivan emailed Clinton: “Still inching toward an Abyei deal.”

    He also stated that State Department staff were asking that Clinton might call both Salva Kiir, South Sudan’s vice president at the time and a leader of the SPLA, and Nafie al Nafie, al-Bashir’s assistant.

    As Clinton’s email traffic shows, at 5:51 p.m. on June 16, 2011 Sullivan forwarded Clinton an email from Matthew Spence, who then worked at the National Security Council. The email is redacted, but Sullivan added a note to Clinton telling her, “you’ll get tps this eve.” …

    Other email traffic shows that Clinton was seeking the talking points just minutes before she was scheduled to talk to Salva Kiir.

    “And kiir is now locked for 830 am,” one Clinton aide wrote.

At almost the same time, Bob Woodward told Fox News Sunday that Hillary’s living in a bubble. Clearly she wanted to “subvert the rules,” but the big question is whether the DoJ will allow Hillary to continue to live in that bubble. Woodward also explains that the “nonpaper” effort is itself a dodge around the rules (via John Fund):

    BOB WOODWARD, THE WASHINGTON POST:  Well, because here you have the secretary of state in 2011 saying let’s subvert the rules, which say you’ve got to send — presumably — I mean, it’s very clear from the earlier e-mails that this was a security issue, and I’ve written about nonpapers or no papers, and this is the way people in the government take the heading off and create something that exists.

    WALLACE:  Explain that, explain that to the rest of the world here.  What’s a nonpaper and what is taking the heading off?

    WOODWARD:  By taking it off, it’s just a piece of paper that has a bunch of paragraphs.  And there’s no classification, there’s no subject, so it’s not in the system, so no one can discover it through Freedom of Information Act or some sort of subpoena.

    I mean, look, here is Hillary Clinton, somebody who worked on the staff of the Nixon impeachment committee, and what was the lesson, one of the lessons from that?  Never write anything down.

    She did years of Whitewater investigations where she was the target, and here, many years later, she’s saying oh, let’s subvert the rules and writing it out herself?  You know, whether that’s some sort of crime I think is not the issue.  The issue is, it shows she kind of feels immune, that she lives in a bubble, and no one is ever going to find this out.  Well, now we have.





In other words, it’s a deception all the way down. Is it a crime? If Sullivan balked at doing this, then not in and of itself, but we don’t know whether he did or not — and neither does State. But it demonstrates that Hillary was well aware of the import of classified markings and had ordered her aides to defeat that system. That makes her “none of it was marked classified” excuse moot, and gives any prosecutor within six weeks of passing a bar exam plenty of evidence to pursue a case in federal court — especially when more than 1300 other examples of classified transmission and storage through unsecured means exist in the system Hillary forced everyone else to use.


http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/11/hillary-by-ordering-identifying-heading-i-meant-dont-transmit-classified-info-or-something/


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January 11, 2016, 02:10:15 PM
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They hanged Joachim von Ribbentrop, German Foreign Minister. Not for any war crimes or mass murder but for helping start a war of aggression on false pretenses. What about Colin Powell? Hillary Clinton? John Kerry. Enough for starters, you could go farther back.

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January 11, 2016, 03:42:41 PM
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Storm Clouds Form Over Clinton's Email Troubles

John Fund, National Review January 11, 2016

Hillary Clinton’s e-mail scandal has been a difficult one for the public to understand and for journalists to explain. But Bob Woodward, the Washington Post reporter who helped uncover Watergate 40 years ago, clarified things a lot on Fox News Sunday today when he said that an e-mail in the most recently released batch shows Hillary trying to “subvert the rules” that she expected others to follow.....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2016/01/11/storm_clouds_form_over_clinton039s_email_troubles_373629.html

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Sorry Hillary – Obama Will Not Endorse Candidate in 2016 Dem Race

Obama turns his back on former Secretary of State.




Hillary campaigned for Obama in 2008.



U.S. President Barack Obama will not publicly endorse a candidate before the 2016 Democratic primary election, White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough said on Sunday.

"We'll do exactly what has been done in the past," McDonough said on NBC's "Meet the Press." He said Obama will be "out there" campaigning after the primary election to help support the Democratic candidate.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-obama-idUSKCN0UO0L720160110


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FBI's Clinton probe expands to public corruption track



EXCLUSIVE: The FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private email as secretary of state has expanded to look at whether the possible “intersection” of Clinton Foundation work and State Department business may have violated public corruption laws, three intelligence sources not authorized to speak on the record told Fox News.

This new investigative track is in addition to the focus on classified material found on Clinton’s personal server.

"The agents are investigating the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation donations, the dispensation of State Department contracts and whether regular processes were followed," one source said.

The development follows press reports over the past year about the potential overlap of State Department and Clinton Foundation work, and questions over whether donors benefited from their contacts inside the administration.

The Clinton Foundation is a public charity, known as a 501(c)(3). It had grants and contributions in excess of $144 million in 2013, the most current available data. 

Inside the FBI, pressure is growing to pursue the case.

One intelligence source told Fox News that FBI agents would be “screaming” if a prosecution is not pursued because “many previous public corruption cases have been made and successfully prosecuted with much less evidence than what is emerging in this investigation.”

The FBI is particularly on edge in the wake of how the case of former CIA Director David Petraeus was handled. 

One of the three sources said some FBI agents felt Petraeus was given a slap on the wrist for sharing highly classified information with his mistress and biographer Paula Broadwell, as well as lying to FBI agents about his actions. Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor in March 2015 after a two-plus-year federal investigation in which Attorney General Eric Holder initially declined to prosecute.

In the Petraeus case, the exposure of classified information was assessed to be limited.

By contrast, in the Clinton case, the number of classified emails has risen to at least 1,340. A 2015 appeal by the State Department to challenge the “Top Secret” classification of at least two emails failed and, as Fox News first reported, is now considered a settled matter.

It is unclear which of the two lines of inquiry was opened first by the FBI and whether they eventually will be combined and presented before a special grand jury. One intelligence source said the public corruption angle dates back to at least April 2015.  On their official website, the FBI lists "public corruption as the FBI's top criminal priority."

Fox News is told that about 100 special agents assigned to the investigations also were asked to sign non-disclosure agreements, with as many as 50 additional agents on “temporary duty assignment,” or TDY. The request to sign a new NDA could reflect that agents are handling the highly classified material in the emails, or serve as a reminder not to leak about the case, or both.

"The pressure on the lead agents is brutal," a second source said. "Think of it like a military operation, you might need tanks called in along with infantry."

Separately, a former high-ranking State Department official emphasized to Fox News that Clinton’s deliberate non-use of her government email address may be increasingly “significant.”

“It is virtually automatic when one comes on board at the State Department to be assigned an email address,” the source said.

“It would have taken an affirmative act not to have one assigned ... and it would also mean it was all planned out before she took office. This certainly raises questions about the so-called legal advice she claimed to have received from inside the State Department that what she was doing was proper."

On Sunday,  when asked about her email practices while secretary of state, Clinton insisted to CBS News’ "Face The Nation," "there is no there, there."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/11/fbis-clinton-probe-expands-to-public-corruption-track.html


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She will be end of american dream. she has two personality . one side represents evil the other one represents goodness.

More like: one side represents evil and the other one represents more evil.


Much more accurate description.




the last one is the most accurate description of all Smiley

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She will be end of american dream. she has two personality . one side represents evil the other one represents goodness.

More like: one side represents evil and the other one represents more evil.


Much more accurate description.




the last one is the most accurate description of all Smiley





Let's hope this will be her favorite color at supermax eventually.



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January 13, 2016, 02:34:11 AM
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Hillary Clinton proposes tax 'surcharge' on Americans who earn over $5m

The Democratic presidential candidate’s plan, which would increase tax rate to 4% for only 0.02% of Americans, was criticized by Sanders’s campaign

Hillary Clinton would add a 4% tax “surcharge” on Americans who earn more than $5m a year and close “egregious” tax loopholes if she became president, expanding on her campaign promise to ensure that the super-rich pay a rate higher than middle-class families.

“My plan is kind of simple: we go after the wealthy to pay for what the middle class, working class and poor people need,” the Democratic frontrunner said at a campaign event in Ames, Iowa, on Tuesday.

Her surcharge proposal, unveiled on Monday, would take the top tax rate to its highest since 1986, though it will only apply to 0.02% of Americans.

“Right now we’re behind and we need to get the wealthy and the corporations to pay for their fair share, so I can keep my promise, which is I will not raise taxes on the middle class,” Clinton told hundreds of voters at a campaign stop in Waterloo, Iowa, on Monday.

On Tuesday, Clinton’s campaign released details of two additional ways the Democrat would ensure that the “wealthy pay their fair share”. Clinton would close what it is calling the “Bermuda reinsurance loophole”, a scheme in which high-income money managers have set up insurance companies in low-tax countries to avoid paying higher taxes in the US.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/12/hillary-clinton-tax-surcharge-wealthy-proposal
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January 14, 2016, 09:10:28 AM
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Yes. It always matters whether a person is honest and trustworthy. How is this even a question?
 
However, that said, even a mostly honest and trustworthy person can have lapses in judgment, or make the wrong call thereby seeming untrustworthy. That's just part of humanity's natural condition.
 
Also, this question should not be assigned to a single politician if you ask me. Doing so presupposes that one politician's trustworthiness is more important than another's. We, the electorate, will want all of our candidates to demonstrate qualities of honesty and trustworthiness. In this way, the answer is really a resounding, "No!" It doesn't matter if Hillary Clinton is individually honest and trustworthy any more than it matters for any politician in the field.
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January 14, 2016, 01:15:52 PM
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That's the problem! The extra money held by the uber-rich is not creating jobs, That money is going into overseas accounts and foreign investments.

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That's the problem! The extra money held by the uber-rich is not creating jobs, That money is going into overseas accounts and foreign investments.



Clinton Foundation Running Private Equity Fund in Colombia


http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-foundation-running-private-equity-fund-in-colombia/



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