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2781  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 06, 2013, 03:00:26 PM
People who don't want to pay taxes should stop using everything that was funded with taxpayer money. Don't travel on public roads, create your own roads. Don't call the police when you are robbed, pay some private investigator or hoodlum to get what was robbed back. Don't call the fire department when your house is on fire, pay someone to put it down. Don't use the internet, set up your own mesh net, etc.

Otherwise you'd be very hypocritical you want to keep all of your money but don't mind using things which other people payed for yet you refuse to pay for.

Why does it have to be everything or nothing? What if we decide to pay for road access and fire departments, but refuse to pay for oil and farm subsidies, military, and for NSA/CIA to spy on us? (Sadly, we can't pay private investigators or hoodlums to protect ourselves, since it's illegal for them to interfere with any crimes, and they are forced to get the police involved, anyway.)
2782  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 06, 2013, 02:57:03 PM
Why doesn't anyone accuse Bitcoin miners of "stealing" new blocks of coins? Sure, there's competitive 'work' involved, but that's just a dead weight that the users don't care about. But maybe they should care that the miners are "stealing" value from everyone else's coins with an inflation tax??

Miners are being paid for providing services essential to keeping Bitcoin alive. If Bitcoin code included something that forced you to randomly pay some node for no reason, or to randomly pay some insurance agent or construction company, I doubt people would have adopted it.
2783  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: July 06, 2013, 02:41:06 PM
There's really only one thing that prevents our conversion to "free" renewable energy: money. That "free" energy is actually a hell of a lot more expensive than oil, so we'll keep burning oil until either renewable becomes cheaper, or we stop subsidizing the oil infrastructure.
2784  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 05, 2013, 11:07:27 PM
I think the fire departments we have today are great, firemen are usually good guys & are in it because they like what they do, i've never seen one act cowardly or nasty (though they do love smashing stuff -- who doesn't?).  I'm sure private FDs would be fine. Smiley

I have no complaints about the government fire departments.

The complaint I have is about the stealing done to pay for them.

What stealing?

Why do you bother if you know what the answer will be?
2785  Economy / Services / Re: Bitcoin 100: Developed Specifically for Non-Profits on: July 05, 2013, 07:59:26 PM
equineangelsrescue.com representatives were very receptive to my proposal, and I'll discuss this with their head tomorrow. She's out shoveling horse pies today. There is also a charity/nonprofit panel at this convention on Sunday, where I plan to represent a bit.
2786  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICS killing BTC ? on: July 05, 2013, 04:32:54 AM
the customer base for BTC and LTC are nearly identical

How do you figure? Bitcoin customers include those who use BitPay with all their businesses, and Gyft with all their businesses, among others. I don't know of many Litecoin customers aside from Thepiratebay and their donors.
2787  Economy / Economics / Re: The end is near on: July 05, 2013, 04:04:51 AM
And there is no harm, or effect, of beliefs like his.

That is far from true, unfortunately.

People aren't going to give up their iPhones, facebooks, cars, and air conditioned homes to go live in the woods eating berries, no matter how convincing of a pitch Zarathustra tries to make.
2788  Other / Politics & Society / Re: what is your political preference? on: July 05, 2013, 04:00:53 AM
If someone signed a contract obligating them to an indefinite period of indentured servitude "in the extremely unlikely event that a debt would be unable to be paid off", the NAP says that's fucking legit!

Now don't get me started on the hypocrisy of disrespecting intellectual property, while simultaneously worshipping the sanctity of contractual agreements. Roll Eyes

Slavery was codified in law. If you stop "slaving" by, say, running away, or help a runaway slave, you are breaking the law. We all know what happens when you break the law: men with guns come chase you, and then either imprison or kill you. In this case, they take you back to your owner.
Your indentured servitude example is a contract. If you break that contract, you have only broke a contract between you and your "owner," at which point the two of you would have to go to an arbitrator, mediator, or civil court to figure out how to resolve the breach of contract. If I was mediating or a member of a jury, my "ruling" would have been that the indentured servant and the "owner" should figure out some other ways to resolve their debt issue, and that the indentured servant should be deemed as untrustworthy for entering into indentured servitude contracts, and thus not be allowed to enter into them any more. At least until they rebuild their trust. This indentured servant would have to start from scratch, maybe only doing short one or two days long indentured servitude contracts at most, and would take a while to build up their reputation enough to become a professional long-term indentured servant again.
2789  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: July 05, 2013, 03:51:25 AM
Liberty Reserve was Napster, centralized and run by a single company. Bitcoin is bittorrent. How is that working out?

bitcoin may as well be considered one company

Only as much as BitTorrent or Email is a company
2790  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: July 04, 2013, 11:29:56 PM

It's not the coin that matters, it's the services behind it.


BTC still has first mover advantage. For the foreseeable future, Bitcoin will not have less services behind and use for it than any other altcoin. Again, if $266 was possible, $1,000 is also possible. Only the prospect of riding a new bubble is enough for most 'investors'.

so did Napster

how'd that work out?

Liberty Reserve was Napster, centralized and run by a single company. Bitcoin is bittorrent. How is that working out?
2791  Economy / Economics / Re: The end is near on: July 04, 2013, 10:16:27 PM
Meh, let Zarathustra believe. He may even be right that tribal "natural" societies had no capital growth, and capitalism was a recent invention. He may even be right in saying that capitalism is a product of human collectivization, if by "collectivization" he simply means "humans willing to work and trade together." But so what? Things are a hell out a lot better now than they were when we were all stuck in forests. And there is no harm, or effect, of beliefs like his.
2792  Economy / Services / Re: Bitcoin 100: Developed Specifically for Non-Profits on: July 04, 2013, 10:03:10 PM
Yes, some of the objections were through email directly to me, and the rest from this forum. I have a way to resolve this issue though. Those donors who did not want to donate, I will cover their donation myself. It's only about 1.5 btc at this point anyway. If there are no issues with this, I'll add my 1.5 btc (you'll see it in the BTC100 address history), and send the money out Monday.
2793  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 04, 2013, 09:56:17 PM
remote control itself was not invented by the military... but radio control was one of the major contributions of military research to the world. as well as the internet, which was a practical byproduct of military advancements..
And drones/quadrocopters are much much more complex than you think...

Ok then. So, I guess you're saying without government we wouldn't have radio control?

By the way, how do you know what I think or know about drones? What gave you the impression that they are more complex than I think? Just curious.


I thought drone technology was government taking toy remote control model planes that existed for, practically, ever, and strapping missiles on them? Did government create toy RC planes? Or radio to control those planes? Or just the missiles to strap onto those planes? I really don't know, but maybe you do?

^^
Because of this.

Beyond stabilization technology used in modern cellphones, autopilot technology use in civil aircraft, satellite communications used in sat phones and satellite web access, video transmission used in TV broadcasts, and fancy joysticks and buttons, there's not much to drones other than radio controlled RC planes. The only aspect that is pure government is GPS location. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I've had flight experience, and know quite a bit about drones and their tech.
2794  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Radical Feminism (continued from Capitalism) on: July 04, 2013, 09:48:48 PM
Just going to leave this here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCqzd-gYJXE

(BTW, the female voice singing this is done by a guy from Finland)
2795  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: July 04, 2013, 05:11:30 AM
with LTC and a few other cryptos doing well, BTC might not have the traction we all thought it did in the beginning.

One is supported by a huge network of merchants, developers, and payment infrastructure. The other is supported by printing presses, and a bunch of butthurt miners who think they missed out on being early adopters. Last time I checked, people who use dollars and euros don't care what kind of printing presses their money is printed on, or which banks it goes through first.
2796  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICS killing BTC ? on: July 04, 2013, 05:08:38 AM
I think the unguided may kill the BTC like the Liberty Reserve before.
...

You need to find better translation software. What's your native language?
2797  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASICS killing BTC ? on: July 04, 2013, 04:38:58 AM
While bitcoin was cpu, or at least gpu bound it was in it's most decentralized form.

There was still the threat of botnets.

And universities using their idle supercomputer resources. Oh, and the that of someone who wanted to destroy Bitcoin making ASICs in private, instead of selling them to dedicated bitcoiners.

Greed will kill ASICS by end of 2013... Bitcoin hijackers will be eating their chips.

http://bitcoinnews.io/dan-kaminsky-predicts-the-end-of-the-current-proof-of-work-function/

I think Mr Kaminsky really screwed up in this prediction. Miners have way too much invested to switch from the current function, it will be nearly impossible to build up an alternative mining infrastructure that can be as secure as the current one quickly enough to just switch to it, and besides, Gavin has absolutely no interest in switching the algorithm, either. He specifically said so when asked about that article.
2798  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: July 04, 2013, 12:50:44 AM
As you pointed out yourself, it is more expensive to buy anything with bitcoins that just buying it with euros.

Really? It's 1% to 2% in fees to use Bitcoin, versus 2.5% to 3% in fees to use VISA. It's just that vendors aren't doing discounts yet.
2799  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitCoin is NOT a Currency on: July 04, 2013, 12:47:07 AM
BitCoin is NOT a currency. Any business is rolling the dice accepting BitCoin with how volatile the price is. With how rapid the price swings (mostly down), no logical business would/should accept BitCoin. No different than gambling. To my knowledge my dollar last week is still a dollar today, not true with BitCoin, you would have taken a hefty loss this week only!

To my knowledge, my bitcoin last week is still a bitcoin today, so GTFO.
2800  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 04, 2013, 12:21:51 AM
remote control itself was not invented by the military... but radio control was one of the major contributions of military research to the world. as well as the internet, which was a practical byproduct of military advancements..
And drones/quadrocopters are much much more complex than you think...

Ok then. So, I guess you're saying without government we wouldn't have radio control?

By the way, how do you know what I think or know about drones? What gave you the impression that they are more complex than I think? Just curious.
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