I wasn't implying anything about the relative importance of the two issues.  Of course if this damn machine had been delivered when promised, it would have been f@rking fantastic... but it wasn't, not by a long shot.  But why don't we keep that side of the discussion in the other thread?

Edit:  Oh, ooops.  I am in the other thread.  Sorry.

UPDATE:  Switched around pools I'm getting different results, some better.  So maybe it's a little over 400 gh/s.  Definitely 423 watts, tho...

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Yep.  This seems to be the case here.  I'm apparently hashing about 395 gh/s and pulling 423 watts at the wall.  It seems to be under spec.  Not hugely, but significantly.  

(cgminer 3.11 default settings)

Piping some very cold-ass air into it from outside, maybe 50f/9c, I can get the processor temp down to mid-60s and the hashrate apparently rises to a little bit over 400, but I can't leave the window open forever!  

No dice on that, I'm afraid.  It did find the device and it did start to hash (better than before unloading the drivers), but it was throwing a lot of errors (unhandled operation, mainly type 12, I believe) and complaining "device disappeared".  When I killed it, it reported on HFB0, HFB1, and HFB2.  Apparently it kept finding and losing the BJ?

Controller is a Mac Mini Core2, last generation of the ones in the old-style plastic box, "Late 2009", I believe. running OS X 10.9

(BFGminer doesn't work either.  It finds the device, the fans spin up and it apparently starts to hash, but you completely lose control of the process.  Terminal is dead to any inputs, stuck on the add device screen. Only way to kill it is to quit out of Terminal altogether.)

The BJ is good.  It hashes on 3.11 PC version.

Mine is happily hashing from an old mini PC desktop.  Will try to resolve a driver conflict with Karin's help and get it hashing on the Mac mini later today.

Interestingly, after running overnight, this BJ seems a little off-spec.  It's doing about 395-7 g/hash (running cgminer 3.11).

OTOH, my HW error rate is very low and with an ambient temp of 21c (70f) my processor temp is 69-70c. What did other people get for out of the box processor temps?

I guess I should experiment with overclocking next...  I've seen 610 mentioned... other suggestions?

And sorry ckolivas, I didn't mean to suggest the Mac driver issue was your problem.  It was intended merely as an observation.

And finally... why don't we try to move all this operational discussion here, rather than in the other thread?

Mine is happily hashing from an old mini PC desktop.  Will try to resolve a driver conflict with Karin's help and get it hashing on the Mac mini later today.

Interestingly, after running overnight, this BJ seems a little off-spec.  It's doing about 395-7 g/hash (running cgminer 3.11).

OTOH, my HW error rate is very low and with an ambient temp of 21c (70f) my processor temp is 69-70c. What did other people get for out of the box processor temps?

I guess I should experiment with overclocking next...  I've seen 610 mentioned... other suggestions?

And sorry ckolivas, I didn't mean to suggest the Mac driver issue was your problem.  It was intended merely as an observation.

And finally... why don't we try to move all this operational discussion over the the user's thread?  I would still like a thread more focused on the company and its operations (and interesting cast of characters), like this one was before HF really started shipping.

In fact, I'm going to xpost over there.

Trying to do exactly that with Karin's 3.11 build for Mac.  Unfortunately, I'm getting a "Hashfast detect (6:3) failed to initialize (incorrect device?)" error.

Update:  It's hashing using 3.11 PC build.  Must be a Mac driver issue.

No luck here, so far, getting the BabyJet to hash with 3.11.  

Getting a "Hashfast detect (6:3) failed to initialize (incorrect device?)" message.

Update:  It hashes using the PC build of 3.11.  Is this a driver or permissions issue?

Personally, I don't think a Mac Mini or atom nettop or something that like that is ghetto at all, compared to the loose RaspberryPi flopping around, hung by a USB cable. Or, worse, a half dozen RPi's hanging on USB cables, buffeted by the wind coming out the exhaust, and with sketchy SDRAM cards going belly up.  Oh, and the ghetto USB wifi stick hanging out...

And, more seriously, it's only a few RPi's before you are burning the same juice as an efficient small PC.  I dunno, I suppose it depends on your setup and style, but since the general release cgminer does the same as the RPi, I'm ditching the little box.  Although if my controller goes down, it's more catastrophic (everything stops, not just one machine!), but I'd rather maintain one controller than maintain a fleet of them.

Hi Karin -

HF hardware is finally in hand, although it arrived while I was out of town (groan).  Am still planning to use cgminer for mac to control the first babyjet and more that are on the way.  Hopefully we'll see 3.11 compiled on your site soon?  Willing to be a guinea pig here if you create a version of asteroid that will support HF hardware, with the 3.11 mods.  Plan to try to get up and running Sunday evening, North America time. Thanks!

ckolivas, if you are still around:

Given all the controller hassles people are having with the RPi's, once the compiled 3.11 binaries are up at spaceman.ca, is there any reason not to donate the RPi to the Salvation Army and control my BJ, along with whatever comes out of the MPP, from the old Mac Mini I have lying around?

Maybe it's just me, but that just seems a hell of a lot simpler.

RPi = 3 watts = $2.76/yr  (but does the power supply eat more?)
Mini = 14 watts = $12.89/yr  (@$0.105/kwh)

I'll splurge on $10/yr in electric for the desktop operating system. No wifi stick hassle either.

And can the RPi run six HF boards at once? (BJ+upgrade+MPP?)  I'm assuming the mini can. Not even any need for a USB hub.

Mine came blind.

Stuck overseas while my Babay Jet sits in a box at home...

Has anybody skipped the Raspberry Pi and simply plugged it into a desktop running cgminer?  Or better yet, cgminer for mac?

My daughter just Skyped to tell me that I received a very large box from Hashfast today (in the US).  No shipment notice preceded the box.  It just came.

Unfortunately for me, I left for Europe yesterday for a week long business trip.

I paid USD.  I am almost at the end of the Batch 1 queue, only a few places above the backorders.  I did not ask for a refund.

Wish to hell I was at home to set it up.  

I haven't seen the thing with own eyes, but if it's not a Baby Jet, I don't what would be in a "very large box" sent from Hashfast.

a bomb?  
a gay prostitute hidden inside a wedding cake? .... surprise, it's Long dong in his birthday suit!

Something tells me that there's a flaw or two in this Modest Proposal.

As to being pragmatic, I thought my entreaties several weeks ago to collectively engage Hashfast in a compensation discussion (via the MPP, not refunds, forced, BTC, USD, or otherwise) were rather reasonable suggestions.  Others did not agree.

Having reviewed a lot of the web crumbs left in many places by Kottmeier (and I do believe that his real name is Abram Kottmeier***), my impression is that he's a serial liar who probably has generally led a very pathetic and modest life. All that marketing crap that he was involved in is just another scam, and the way to get "ahead" doing it seems to be encouraging others with lies about income from it.  Don't believe crap like "making $45k a month" for a second.  I don't personally know any people that apparently work(ed) as hourly male prostitutes, but I have a hard time believing that one would continue to turn tricks with random people, risking arrest and disease, if you actually had an income of over US $500,000 a year from legitimate and safe sources. As to whether or not he really has a wife and daughter, I'm not sure, although I tend to think not.

But this guy is just some two bit hustler who has spent his life moving from one shady business to another, and who might of spent some time in jail. He frankly doesn't seem to be worth of much respect.  He's spent too much time lying, too much time trying to personally gain at the expense of others. He's a lowlife.


*** Just like the CEO's real name is Rodriguez De Casto, Eduardo L.

I say we set a time UTC and then all simultaneously MMS him a picture of our hairy bare asses.

Hey Phin, what makes you say that James Johnston uses Abram Kottmeier as an alias and not the other way around?

It's the bitcoin aspect that screws up consumer protections.  If it wasn't present, there would be more obvious recourse to that kind of complaint, and they'd stand a better chance of success.  

But, if you put yourself in the shoes of a bureaucrat, you're kind of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" here.  The "community" is loud and clear that bitcoin does not want regulation, but the "community" also has problems with dishonest and incompetent hardware manufacturers.  From the federal level, there is bascially a policy vacuum, because the feds haven't figured out if and how to deal with it, and they are kind of signalling 'hands off', like the "community" says it wants.

So if you wade into this as a low or mid-level bureaucrat of the sort that might typically try to enforce consumer protection laws, you're probably going to get your head chopped off and be accused of overreaching.  And you are probably saying to yourself, "heh, those guys, so proud of their independence and insulting the government all the time, now look who's crying? ... why should I stick my neck out for them?  Most of them say I'm irrelevant, until they run into @ssholes like BFL and Hashfast. Well, sorry fellas, it's time you grew up and gave us more respect. Here's a lesson for you."

So I don't get it.  Is Amy spending her time manually assembling and tweaking a Sierra every few days and then sending it to DeadTerra? 

This seems like a pathetic use of her time if the company's objective here is to actually ship. (yeah, yeah, I know)


Vocabulary Correction Notice

Wrong:  de (or De) Castro, Edward (or Eduardo)
Right: Rodriguez De Castro, Eduardo

Wrong: Refund Check.
Right:  Attempted Buy Out (ABU)