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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [Pool] [MRO] MoneroPool.org | Monero Mining Pool on: August 03, 2014, 12:45:06 AM
Request: can you make the difficulty re-adjusting less aggresive? Right now when starting on port 7777 at diff 2000, it will keep increasing the diff until 1 million... not very practical and it causes disconnects often.
282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Wolf's XMR/BCN/MNT CPUMiner - 2x speed compared to LucasJones' - NEW 06/20/2014 on: August 03, 2014, 12:42:24 AM
Btw.. Just thought i'd mention this:

Latest CPUMiner compiled from git: (24 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5650 @ 2.67GHz)

Over a 20 minute duration:

[2014-08-02 20:25:25] accepted: 191/234 (81.62%), 230.74 H/s at diff 980 (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 20:25:29] accepted: 192/235 (81.70%), 230.63 H/s at diff 980 (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 20:25:29] accepted: 193/236 (81.78%), 230.61 H/s at diff 980 (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 20:25:31] accepted: 194/237 (81.86%), 230.16 H/s at diff 980 (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 20:25:40] accepted: 195/238 (81.93%), 231.01 H/s at diff 980 (yay!!!)

Then i removed all of the "optimizations" from the Makefile:

From:

am__append_3 = -Ofast -flto -fuse-linker-plugin -funroll-loops -fvariable-expansion-in-unroller -ftree-loop-if-convert-stores -fmerg
e-all-constants -fbranch-target-load-optimize2 -fsched2-use-superblocks -maes

to :

am__append_3 = -maes

The result?

[2014-08-02 20:26:44] accepted: 189/231 (81.82%), 289.83 H/s at diff 1384 (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 20:26:45] accepted: 190/232 (81.90%), 290.09 H/s at diff 1384 (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 20:27:03] accepted: 191/233 (81.97%), 291.41 H/s at diff 1384 (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 20:27:07] accepted: 192/234 (82.05%), 290.47 H/s at diff 1384 (yay!!!)

There are numerous posts/warnings on-line about over-aggressive compile-time "optimizations".
Just thought I'd post my results/findings which concur.

Regards,
Cami

You should be getting atleast 400 H/s out of those CPUs (mine are hashing at 451 H/s)
283  Economy / Digital goods / WTB VCC with BTC on: July 24, 2014, 12:37:24 PM
Looking to buy a reloadable (NOT prepaid) virtual credit card that can be loaded by BTC, and allows up to $3000 monthly volume.
Trusted members only.
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Slimcoin : Proof of Burn NEW BLOCK GEN, Mineable by low power computer! on: July 22, 2014, 10:22:53 AM
Slimcoinpool is on the right fork now.
285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper on: July 19, 2014, 11:20:30 AM
Pool is halted until I see something positive emerge from this mess or reason to keep it running. Pending blocks will be paid out when confirmed, thanks for mining.

We couldn't care less. You and your highly self-catastrophic buddy are part of the fucking problem. Fuck off both of you.


You mad bro?
286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper on: July 18, 2014, 11:27:58 PM
Pool is halted until I see something positive emerge from this mess or reason to keep it running. Pending blocks will be paid out when confirmed, thanks for mining.
287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper on: July 14, 2014, 07:00:35 PM
I'm just going to say this: anyone who signed up just to start posting in the SHC thread is a potential dev sockpuppet. And there's more than a few...
And I think I know what the dev is up to with all his coins... If my suspicions are right then that's a lot of work for trying to make a quick buck, there surely are better ways.
288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper on: July 14, 2014, 05:59:38 PM
Does SMF board send the body of the message in the notification?

No but the moderator will most likely take a look at the post. Lets hope it does not get auto-deleted Smiley

Then dude, you do not have some solid proof there. Smiley



bitcointalk most likely has an automated msg removal system - if a post is reported many times it gets temporarily deleted.

Proof can not be more solid. I;ve seen it with my own eyes. My post BEFORE sunny's has not been altered and mods can confirm it.
Next time take a screenshot. Although even that could be faked if you really had enough motivation. It is pretty unlikely that you posted 1 minute before sunny did just to have the opportunity to edit the post with his message and make this claim up, though. Very suspicious, but I’ll only be 100% convinced when mod confirms your post wasn’t modified.

If sunny is indeed sockpuppeting... then I wish he’d put more effort into legitimately promoting the coin instead of wasting his time like this. I’ve put in a lot of work on this coin already and wanted to see this coin succeed and help it by actually doing development work on it but these antics really undermine the legitimacy of the coin.

Is mod going to post in this thread to confirm whether your post was edited?

This ^

Can easily be faked... Open Chrome console and type document.designMode="on", you can edit any page content you want.
Only the forum admin knowns IP addresses.
I'm not sure if a mod can see deleted posts, but if he does then it can be confirmed that the dev is sockpuppeting.

How can the output of a web app person A sees be modified by person B's browser instance? Where have you learned that stuff dude?


I mean the screenshot can be faked using that method.
289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper on: July 14, 2014, 05:30:31 PM
Does SMF board send the body of the message in the notification?

No but the moderator will most likely take a look at the post. Lets hope it does not get auto-deleted Smiley

Then dude, you do not have some solid proof there. Smiley



bitcointalk most likely has an automated msg removal system - if a post is reported many times it gets temporarily deleted.

Proof can not be more solid. I;ve seen it with my own eyes. My post BEFORE sunny's has not been altered and mods can confirm it.
Next time take a screenshot. Although even that could be faked if you really had enough motivation. It is pretty unlikely that you posted 1 minute before sunny did just to have the opportunity to edit the post with his message and make this claim up, though. Very suspicious, but I’ll only be 100% convinced when mod confirms your post wasn’t modified.

If sunny is indeed sockpuppeting... then I wish he’d put more effort into legitimately promoting the coin instead of wasting his time like this. I’ve put in a lot of work on this coin already and wanted to see this coin succeed and help it by actually doing development work on it but these antics really undermine the legitimacy of the coin.

Is mod going to post in this thread to confirm whether your post was edited?

This ^

Can easily be faked... Open Chrome console and type document.designMode="on", you can edit any page content you want.
Only the forum admin knowns IP addresses.
I'm not sure if a mod can see deleted posts, but if he does then it can be confirmed that the dev is sockpuppeting.
290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper on: July 14, 2014, 05:23:06 PM
Took a look at the pool:

Code:
Total Blocks     Pending     Confirmed     Orphaned
777                18            586             6

Shouldn't 'total blocks' be the sum of the other three numbers?


Haven't you read sandors tearms of service ?? Every 5th block goes to him for development + 5% for hosting expenses Smiley

LMAO! Link? Usually, you know, every fucking web service in the known internet posts the ToS on site! He could strip the NOMP project info from the footer, but could not add the ToS there? The 'getting started' page still states 1% fees!! So, every 2000 mined coins 480 coins go to his bag? 24% fee! For so many days so many blocks were not confirmed most probably due to his fucking coding mistakes. We've wasted so much hashrate! Now that he has most probably fixed his stupidities, he collects 24% fees for having wasted our hash rate instead of reducing the fees for compensation!!!! This guy is the most unreliable and untrustworthy piece of garbage I've ever seen!!! I wonder why people still mine on his pool! They'll make more profit if they solo mine at this diff! Ahhh crap, it's disgusting! The sooner this coin breaks free from this bastard, the sooner it will become interesting again.



Hahaha, its was a joke man Smiley

Cheesy You almost made me want to bang this dude on the floor man!


Sorry i was bored Smiley

Still several blocks seem to be missing from that table above. Unless 'total blocks' refers to something else, which I doubt.

EDIT: almost 21.5% missing. 177 blocks. That's a lot of coins.

That's not missing blocks; those are 'kicked' blocks, which means that they got rejected by the wallet. NOMP doesn't include them in the total.
And fee is still 5% as it always was.
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper on: July 14, 2014, 02:46:38 PM
I can confirm that "utrecht" posted

There is a good reason there is a distribution period for any coin, which included bitcoin itself  -- it is to distribute coin to parties interested.  During the initial distribution it is unreasonable to expect valuations or popularity of a coin which has been around for years, or in some cases which has been heavily marketed months in advance of launch.  Nobody can expect from three weeks since the launch and beginning mining for a coin to be valued at millions of dollars, regardless of the innovation (which as of yet does not merit such a high valuation)  I implore all miners, and shareholders to relax and stop pushing for an instant high valuation of a coin which is not feasible.  Development is continuing on Shiny, and will continue.  There are currently two core developers working on developing the core protocol (myself and laxori666 who has volunteered his help).  From the network hash rate it is evident that there is still confidence remaining.  Please stop this endless banter of coin valuations.  It neither attracts people to the coin, nor does it bring anything of substance to the conversation, nor does it add any value in any way conceivable.  In the coming weeks and months several core changes will be introduced, none of them copy/paste of code already in existing coins, but all being introduced to market first on Shinycoin.

Sunny Prince
ShinyCoin Developer

before it got deleted. I thought the forum had bugged or something because I couldn't believe my eyes.
I've always thought primer's accusations had some merit to them, and I am right... Deeply disappointing.
292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: July 13, 2014, 12:30:41 PM
StartJoin crowdfunding listing: https://www.startjoin.com/urea12500
It will be live when StartJoin has integrated URO.
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 11, 2014, 11:02:45 PM
Please help donate. https://twitter.com/BlockCypher/status/487304194139750400
We need to get Blockcypher going for URO, this will be a huge step.
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 11, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
Buy you don't get it when something is backed by a commodity it will always be worth the commodity,

Not necessarily. Just ask anybody who has messed around with the Credit Suisse line of ETF and ETN stock products. Just because something is backed by a commodity, it doesn't mean the owners of the asset will necessarily do a good job of making sure there is always a correlation between the asset and the commodity.

For your reference, I submit to you TVIX: supposed to move at 200% of the VIX or market volatility indicator but seldom does and frequently goes down when the VIX goes up. This is because its owners (Credit Suisse) have found a way to legally manipulate money out of people who are assuming this ETN (Exchange Traded Note) will correlate with the VIX, like Credit Suisse says its supposed to.


Ehhh.. long term it will inevitably move to being worth more than the commodity in $, why? Because massively reduced fees and volatility.
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper on: July 11, 2014, 07:18:29 PM
Your FUD and unnecessary questioning against me is what started this whole fiasco in the first place, don't start pushing it to me now. If you had just shut the fuck up along the way, no harm would be done.

Stop blaming me for your own stupidities you piece of garbage! We had to go through all this, before your fucking stupidity would let you provide an explanation of what you have done. You expected to release code, a piece of which looked weird, and noone ask anything about it? Are you that dumb? "unnecessary questioning" he says... You are so funny! Open source is not for you, dude! Do something else!

This is proof that you are absolutely clueless about what I have implemented. Share trusting is already used by cryptonote pools, I have just ported it to NOMP.
Again, you're making yourself look like a complete idiot to anyone who knows what I'm talking about.

And don't forget, what are your contributions to this coin? Nihil. So show some respect and don't be the little bitch you are.

You haven't ported it to NOMP! Where is your pull request? Where are your changes released? You just re-used code you found on the internet in your custom and closed NOMP code! That's a fucking different thing and definitely not a contribution to NOMP! Say that you ported it once you release the code!
Porting has nothing to do with pull requests or open source, you imbecile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porting). And I am very loosely using the term.
Again, you are sidetracking and avoiding my arguments, and while doing that also managing to fail miserably.

And stop talking about your contributions! You have been very well paid for everything you have done here. I've paid you my share and everyone else who has used your miner and the pool.
I am talking about YOUR (not mine) contributions! Reading comprehension 101.
296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHC] ShinyCoin █First ever RAMHOG algo Pow/Pos █NO ASIC/GPU | Whitepaper on: July 11, 2014, 06:08:45 PM
I  decided to give this coin a try and mine it, the miner constanly keeps giving me the message "Stratum requested work restart"

That is pretty normal, the pool is sending out new work to the miner every 55s.

I  decided to give this coin a try and mine it, the miner constanly keeps giving me the message "Stratum requested work restart"
Sandor's miner sucks.  Suggest solo mining, Dev claimed he working on miner

If it sucks so bad how come I get a 28% higher hashrate (@ pool) than mining from the wallet? No facts, just FUD.
297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 11, 2014, 06:06:33 PM
FAQ

Is URO coin a scam?

You have to come to your own conclusion here but when do you see scammer show his real identity and fight for his coin with a passion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsHF0C_gPck, and don't forget this coin had no ipo, no premine, just an active competent dev.

What is URO coin?

Uro is a cryptocurrency which is being backed by GES currently to offer 1 Tonne of Urea for 1 URO, soon other companies will join in the revolution, its essentially like a bond

Why use URO coin when we could use bitcoins?

Urea's price is volatile and depends on many factors and so is bitcoin, you can peg two volatile thing against each other, Uro is essentially a future bond, that you would always get 1 tonne of Urea for, its like how the government bank started with gold backing the dollar.

Why use not use coloured coin?

URO is getting many new features, including a live urea exchange market for urea trading, mobile app, and many more features where having your own coin makes this easier to implement


Why would these companies give you $300 worth of Urea for $6?

The company is not going to sell the URO coin at a loss, they will simply hold it, until the market catches up the price of Urea, which will not take to many btc, and will happen in weeks as soon as news of URO coin spreads.


The minimum order is 12,500 tonnes of Urea why?

These are large companies that deal with big orders, they probably don't want to deal with small orders, however when this coin becomes more mainstream, I am sure resellers or other companies will allow for smaller orders.


What are the advantages to using URO coin?

Urea cannot be stored, so you only buy as much as you need and cannot buy and store, URO changes that by allowing farmers to buy URO for the future.

Price of Urea can be a speculative market this allows traders to speculate on the price

Plenty of fees can be saved instead of doing bank transfers

No need to trust third party with future orders, any company who agree to the term will always accept 1 Uro for 1 tonne of Urea

Whats planned next?

Currently the dev is working on bringing us the mobile wallet - picture


This is my concern and biggest question regarding the entire coin and project.  Not many have the capital to hold onto an asset that "might be worth A LOT more in the future."  Right now it's too beneficial for someone to just go buy this coin at $6 dollars and sell it to a naive company for $300 and make incredible bank off of the deal, while the other sits on a large investment.  At 12500 being the minimum, if the coin never reaches this price of 1 Tonne of Urea, any company making this deal is taking a monumental risk that very well could bankrupt a company.  If you could explain why a company would take that much risk, I am all ears.  From that standpoint it just doesn't make sense.  

It's like me telling you right now that BTC will be worth $10,000 in the future and that's the value you should give to me RIGHT NOW.  No one in their right mind would do that and that's where my skepticism comes in.

its not going to take much btc to URO to urea price 500 btc, the company won't make a loss, because they wont sell at a loss, when the importers are finally aware, they will  buy URO coin of exchanges bringing the volume, your point about btc doesn't correspond to URO because bitcoin is backed by nothing, so you can't guess its value, whereas with URO coin you will always get 1 tonne of urea, hence you should be expected to pay that much.

But it still makes no sense.  You shouldn't be able to get 1 tonne of urea with 1 URO because the the prices don't equal up!  It's a $3 million dollar gamble to each and every company who would agree to this!  If someone is really willing to put 500 BTC+ to buy it all the way up, people are just going to dump it back down.  As long as it's on an exchange it's just not worth the same amount because the dev said so.  If right now it was going to ~$300 dollars a coin it MIGHT make more sense, but for now it would be a monumental gamble for a company to accept it as a payment.

Its only a gamble for the first company, after they deliver URO and probably only the first trade is risky, after that the price will correct up, people can dump the price, but if the community informs all the exporters/importers they will start putting money in to buy up the cheap URO coins, its like saying if you saw people selling gold for half price, and it was true, wouldn't you sell your house to buy that even up to a 10% discount price.

Yes, it's a HUGE gamble for the 1st company!  They are essentially giving $3.75 million dollars worth of product for coins which equal $75K today.  No one else sees this as a problem?  You keep saying, "the price will correct", "it will go up to 1 tonne = 1 URO."  No business in their right mind would make a deal like this based on nothing more than basic speculation.

But guess what, they did and will continue to do so!
First 12500 URO transaction : http://uroexplorer.cryptocuttlefish.cc/tx/c8dd55528c8453e317b75b7631849229b7184ca0cc3c960807ef4e6ea20239a7
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 11, 2014, 05:56:06 PM
FAQ

Is URO coin a scam?

You have to come to your own conclusion here but when do you see scammer show his real identity and fight for his coin with a passion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsHF0C_gPck, and don't forget this coin had no ipo, no premine, just an active competent dev.

What is URO coin?

Uro is a cryptocurrency which is being backed by GES currently to offer 1 Tonne of Urea for 1 URO, soon other companies will join in the revolution, its essentially like a bond

Why use URO coin when we could use bitcoins?

Urea's price is volatile and depends on many factors and so is bitcoin, you can peg two volatile thing against each other, Uro is essentially a future bond, that you would always get 1 tonne of Urea for, its like how the government bank started with gold backing the dollar.

Why use not use coloured coin?

URO is getting many new features, including a live urea exchange market for urea trading, mobile app, and many more features where having your own coin makes this easier to implement


Why would these companies give you $300 worth of Urea for $6?

The company is not going to sell the URO coin at a loss, they will simply hold it, until the market catches up the price of Urea, which will not take to many btc, and will happen in weeks as soon as news of URO coin spreads.


The minimum order is 12,500 tonnes of Urea why?

These are large companies that deal with big orders, they probably don't want to deal with small orders, however when this coin becomes more mainstream, I am sure resellers or other companies will allow for smaller orders.


What are the advantages to using URO coin?

Urea cannot be stored, so you only buy as much as you need and cannot buy and store, URO changes that by allowing farmers to buy URO for the future.

Price of Urea can be a speculative market this allows traders to speculate on the price

Plenty of fees can be saved instead of doing bank transfers

No need to trust third party with future orders, any company who agree to the term will always accept 1 Uro for 1 tonne of Urea

Whats planned next?

Currently the dev is working on bringing us the mobile wallet - picture


This is my concern and biggest question regarding the entire coin and project.  Not many have the capital to hold onto an asset that "might be worth A LOT more in the future."  Right now it's too beneficial for someone to just go buy this coin at $6 dollars and sell it to a naive company for $300 and make incredible bank off of the deal, while the other sits on a large investment.  At 12500 being the minimum, if the coin never reaches this price of 1 Tonne of Urea, any company making this deal is taking a monumental risk that very well could bankrupt a company.  If you could explain why a company would take that much risk, I am all ears.  From that standpoint it just doesn't make sense.  

It's like me telling you right now that BTC will be worth $10,000 in the future and that's the value you should give to me RIGHT NOW.  No one in their right mind would do that and that's where my skepticism comes in.

its not going to take much btc to URO to urea price 500 btc, the company won't make a loss, because they wont sell at a loss, when the importers are finally aware, they will  buy URO coin of exchanges bringing the volume, your point about btc doesn't correspond to URO because bitcoin is backed by nothing, so you can't guess its value, whereas with URO coin you will always get 1 tonne of urea, hence you should be expected to pay that much.

But it still makes no sense.  You shouldn't be able to get 1 tonne of urea with 1 URO because the the prices don't equal up!  It's a $3 million dollar gamble to each and every company who would agree to this!  If someone is really willing to put 500 BTC+ to buy it all the way up, people are just going to dump it back down.  As long as it's on an exchange it's just not worth the same amount because the dev said so.  If right now it was going to ~$300 dollars a coin it MIGHT make more sense, but for now it would be a monumental gamble for a company to accept it as a payment.

It's how the free market works. The supply and demand controls the price. It makes perfect sense. And you can't buy anything with 1 URO, you literally need to buy a boatload of ureum, so only serious investors.
299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 11, 2014, 05:17:31 PM
FAQ

Is URO coin a scam?

You have to come to your own conclusion here but when do you see scammer show his real identity and fight for his coin with a passion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsHF0C_gPck, and don't forget this coin had no ipo, no premine, just an active competent dev.

What is URO coin?

Uro is a cryptocurrency which is being backed by GES currently to offer 1 Tonne of Urea for 1 URO, soon other companies will join in the revolution, its essentially like a bond

Why use URO coin when we could use bitcoins?

Urea's price is volatile and depends on many factors and so is bitcoin, you can peg two volatile thing against each other, Uro is essentially a future bond, that you would always get 1 tonne of Urea for, its like how the government bank started with gold backing the dollar.

Why use not use coloured coin?

URO is getting many new features, including a live urea exchange market for urea trading, mobile app, and many more features where having your own coin makes this easier to implement


Why would these companies give you $300 worth of Urea for $6?

The company is not going to sell the URO coin at a loss, they will simply hold it, until the market catches up the price of Urea, which will not take to many btc, and will happen in weeks as soon as news of URO coin spreads.

The minimum order is 12,500 tonnes of Urea why?

These are large companies that deal with big orders, they probably don't want to deal with small orders, however when this coin becomes more mainstream, I am sure resellers or other companies will allow for smaller orders.


What are the advantages to using URO coin?

Urea cannot be stored, so you only buy as much as you need and cannot buy and store, URO changes that by allowing farmers to buy URO for the future.

Price of Urea can be a speculative market this allows traders to speculate on the price

Plenty of fees can be saved instead of doing bank transfers

No need to trust third party with future orders, any company who agree to the term will always accept 1 Uro for 1 tonne of Urea

Whats planned next?

Currently the dev is working on bringing us the mobile wallet - picture

300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer on: July 11, 2014, 05:12:38 PM
Actually its the bag-holders who are desperate right now.
Check the trollbox , they all want to get rid of their URO.


I'm glad they did...now i got more coins for the same money Cheesy

Yup... thanks for the cheap coins.
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