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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 18, 2014, 04:44:09 PM
Trying to recruit folders from others teams is not the way to do things. The success of this project will stand up on its own merits; if people want to join they'll do so of their own volition. And by all accounts that's already happened in a very big way.

Ok, looks like there's some agreement with you.  So making donations to other folding teams is off the menu?  Anyone feel like arguing for my pro-donation position?   Grin
282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 18, 2014, 04:39:36 PM

Modifying the team name of F@H - I think that's a bad idea, and frankly insults people's intelligence. And it smacks of desperation. The amount of folding being done by the Curecoin team alone has already shattered several records and the coin is only a week old, so obviously a lot of people understand what folding for the Curecoin team entails. if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And it ain't broke.


Ok, fair enough.  Not being a folder myself (old mac laptop) I'm not clued into how much attention folders pay to the charts.  Maybe it is already getting plenty of attention there.
283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 18, 2014, 04:36:20 PM
What are people's opinions on promoting Curecoin to other folding teams?  

There are some huge teams out there with 20,000+ folders and several with 10,000+.  Having folders from other teams flood into Curecoin would have a huge impact on it's price as it would become effectively much more scarce (harder to earn due to folding competition).  The more people who value Curecoin, the more valuable it becomes.  Folders on other folding teams are also by far the 'easiest sell' as they already know what folding is, they know how to to it and clearly believe it's worth doing.  So promoting Curecoin to other folding teams is an obvious move to make, at least from a marketing/investor perspective.

However, from a philanthropic perspective, (the 'other side to this coin' Wink) It's a pointless thing to do because they are already folding for free.  It doesn't encourage any more people to start folding, it just makes the price go up.  

Then again, if more people value Curecoin, the network effect of Curecoin is strengthened, and will encourage more new comers to start folding in the long run.  So if we strengthen Curecoin now by promoting Curecoin to other folding teams, that means the network effect in the future will be much stronger, which is good for Curecoin and good for folding@home.  So I'm in favour of it, but if there are objects to this marketing angle, I'd like to hear them.


I'm folding only one year now but I enjoyed very much the spirit, culture, helping and cheering in my home team. Or the support from other teams. It was always clear to everyone: folding is donation, folding is for free. Folding is for a number of personal reasons something someone decided to spend their resources on.
It was not business, it was not mining; though some members take it very serious with the investments and running costs they have each month. What I want to say: there is a grown, healthy and diverse team structure in the community.

And this is the biggest single issue I have with CureCoin: the need to join a dedicated team. To leave the home team for money. Feels not right.

Temporary leave is always ok, like I tried CureCoin during beta runs with FC and RC, also the first few days with the real coin for a learning experience. Others members cross-joined teams for some short term challenges/competitions. Fine too.

Or a more emotional example of temporary team switching: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=744019
Can you imagine member of this team would have joined this ?  With a significant part of their resources ?
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against money making, I need to pay for power and milk as anybody else; if someone inject enough real world money/value into crypto currency that's fine for me. Without this external input a coin like this is just a translation of the no-money-value PPD we have in F@H anyway. This is  the part of crypto currencies overall I still don't understand. Someone/late joiner will pay the prize. It has a strong ".com bubble" character to me

I would prefer a team-neutral setup; as it was mentioned in the early days of CureCoin. If one want to join team 224497 because it's the right team: perfect. No problem. But going out and actively try to attract the high performer from other teams effectively run other teams dry and eventually destroy would be very unfriendly and egoistic. As such against the original spirit of F@H as I understood.


Thanks for the input.  

We're not trying to attract high performers in particular to drain the other teams of their folding power, but rather increase Curecoin user numbers, which helps increase the value of Curecoin.  A powerful folder isn't really of more value to Curecoin holders than a small-time folder.  But that does still mean Curecoin holders benefits from other folders (big or small) leaving their current teams and joining Curecoin.  

On the one hand, having a fund of Curecoins to makes donations to other folding teams (who can then distribute among their team members) is a way to help make the reward of Curecoin more inclusive, or more 'team neutral' as you put it.  It's more fair to offer other teams Curecoins than to keep them all for team Curecoin.  However, these 'donations' would be relatively small (compared the the amount team Curecoin folders receive), and have the much more significant impact of raising awareness about Curecoin among other folding teams, causing a movement off folders towards team Curecoin, which would be the whole motivation to do it in the first place.  Is that so bad, does it actually matter that Curecoin can stir things up a bit?  

Also, donating to other folding teams with the unspoken intent to drum up awareness about Curecoin isn't forcing anyone to change teams.  It's simply letting folders know they can now make money from their good work.  Don't they deserve to know?  Keeping them in the dark about it seems unfair too.  Let them know about it and then they can decide what to do.

A final point, you say it's against the original spirit of folding@home, a fair point, but then it helps Curecoin be successful which is likely to lead to press attention on folding@home and could result in far more folders coming into the 'fold' Wink.  Overall it only helps encourage more folding, it doesn't take any computing power away from folding@home, which being a scientific project is what it's all about, not the 'spirit', though I understand that is has some importance too.

Any more thoughts on this from anyone?

284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 18, 2014, 03:00:02 PM

We didn't officially fund the logo because we already have a logo (which we funded the development of), and the development of a new logo was requested by community members. However, I would like to point out that 80% of the logo pot currently pledged was from my personal coins, so we are supporting community wishes.

As for advertising, it's certainly important, any specific suggestions?

Once we have a stylish and informative website, new logo/coin image, then we have something to promote.  Best to wait until that's all done I say before launching an aggressive marketing campaign to ensure maximum ROI.

Marketing ideas that require funds:
 - Press release(s).  There's a few places this could be done, will require some funds.
 - Chinese translation of website (once it's up), will require a small amount of funds unless someone from the community steps up to do it for free.
 - It would be great to have a Curecoin dev or representative to attend crypto conventions and talk about Curecoin.  This would require funds for the entrance tickets + travel
 - Making donations to other folding@home teams.  This could be a great way to promote Curecoin to other folding teams.  If another team receives an offer of a Curecoin donation it would get them talking about Curecoin, they'd find out what it is.  It's a great way to start a discussion about Curecoin among other folding teams without being spammy.  This would obviously require funds.

Free marketing ideas:
 - Charities that fund research for the diseases that folding@home should be contacted and asked to accept Curecoin donations.
 - Contacting tech + science + crypto bloggers.  This could be started now by community members but as I said I think it's best to wait until we have some stylish graphics for the bloggers to use in their posts and a good website for them to link to.  Timing of marketing is critical.

285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 250CURE ($326) bounty for new logo/coin image design! (POST ENTRIES HERE) on: May 18, 2014, 02:29:08 PM
Nice entries SomeRelax!  I like the main symbol, the coin image to my eye appears a tad 'harsh/gritty'.
286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 18, 2014, 02:07:10 PM
What are people's opinions on promoting Curecoin to other folding teams?  

There are some huge teams out there with 20,000+ folders and several with 10,000+.  Having folders from other teams flood into Curecoin would have a huge impact on it's price as it would become effectively much more scarce (harder to earn due to folding competition).  The more people who value Curecoin, the more valuable it becomes.  Folders on other folding teams are also by far the 'easiest sell' as they already know what folding is, they know how to to it and clearly believe it's worth doing.  So promoting Curecoin to other folding teams is an obvious move to make, at least from a marketing/investor perspective.

However, from a philanthropic perspective, (the 'other side to this coin' Wink) It's a pointless thing to do because they are already folding for free.  It doesn't encourage any more people to start folding, it just makes the price go up.  

Then again, if more people value Curecoin, the network effect of Curecoin is strengthened, and will encourage more new comers to start folding in the long run.  So if we strengthen Curecoin now by promoting Curecoin to other folding teams, that means the network effect in the future will be much stronger, which is good for Curecoin and good for folding@home.  So I'm in favour of it, but if there are objects to this marketing angle, I'd like to hear them.

287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 18, 2014, 01:10:51 PM
I wonder if changing the folding team name from Curecoin to something with a bit more information and perhaps partially in caps would help attract folders?  E.g.

CURECOIN - Get paid to fold!

That would attract a lot more folders I would imagine if that was the name of our team on the list, rather than the rather plain "Curecoin".  List is here:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=

288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 18, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
Also can anyone confirm was the ipo paid out yesterday... if so how much of it?
I haven't received any yet.

Me neither, waiting for the Mac wallet to be vetted by a trusted dev first.
289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 250CURE ($326) bounty for new logo/coin image design! (POST ENTRIES HERE) on: May 18, 2014, 11:20:23 AM
will be there a voting somewhere in July ? Maybe a good public relation action here at forum if some giveaways included.

Yes voting will probably take place in July or after there are enough good entries and people start calling for the vote to take place.  No hard dates set yet.  If we get some really promising entries sooner, the vote will happen sooner.

Thanks to all entrants so far!

 
290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 18, 2014, 08:23:07 AM

Ah thanks this should be added to the OP where it still says "Tba"
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 18, 2014, 08:11:03 AM
Any ETA for a block explorer?
292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 250CURE ($326) bounty for new logo/coin image design! (POST ENTRIES HERE) on: May 17, 2014, 09:41:51 PM
sorry for saying this
would you mind to have all the pledges in one wallet please? maybe in your wallet?

Sure, this will be done asap. 
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 250CURE ($326) bounty for new logo/coin image design! (POST ENTRIES HERE) on: May 17, 2014, 05:55:05 PM
Another 100CURE has been pledged, that brings the total to 250CURE.  At current bittrex changes rate thats $326!
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 17, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
The bulk of the investor coins will be going out today. To clarify there was about 54 BTC donated. Im not sure where someone got the math of 10k cure = 1 btc X 54 BTC = 54000....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvPoRrj3QF5sdGlxUzdKVVgyaWZvZGlaT195OEFKZmc&usp=sharing#gid=0

This link that has been shared many times is rather simple, 541390 coins are clearly marked as coins to be given to the initial investors. That is a mere 1.98 % of the total money supply, and was funded by believers in the project. Dump your coins if you wish, some happy investor just bought them back at a great price for where CureCoin is headed.

To clarify another point, the devs will receive their coins on a monthly basis, not all at once. This ratio is equal to the mintage ratio of the coin itself, keeping everything fair.  

In CureCoin news, Team curecoin is now folding for cures about 4x times faster then the previous folding champ teams. Congratz team Curecoin, making history is fun isn't it Wink

Cheers,

CygnusXI

That amount of coins on a market with that little buy support will keep the value from rising for some time if it will be sold slowly and wisely OR it will tank the price to the ground if dumped in a short time period. Either way the price will not go up from this moment on unless some fresh capital(meaning whales looking for some long term profit) come to play. Dont wanna be pesimistic because the cause behind this coin is far superior to any cryptocurrency on the market today....so i think there is a bright future for curecoin....and is fun folding again after a long time.  Wink

Not all early investors will start selling straight away, it would be pretty foolish to do that on such a young coin.  I'm one of them and I don't plan on selling any for months at least.
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 150CURE ($260) bounty for new logo/coin image design! (POST ENTRIES HERE) on: May 17, 2014, 04:39:59 PM
Dont end this yet =p im working on something nice =p

Don't worry there's not deadline imposed yet.
296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 150CURE ($260) bounty for new logo/coin image design! (POST ENTRIES HERE) on: May 17, 2014, 02:41:08 PM
Nice concepts so far Smiley

Keep the entries coming!
297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: May 17, 2014, 02:20:20 PM
I dont know the coin meaning,is it mining just to cure for cancer?

The proof of work is protein folding, which helps scientists develop drugs to treat diseases such as cancer and alzheimer's.

More info in the OP:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=603757.0
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 17, 2014, 02:07:08 PM
We've raised a bounty of 150CURE for a new logo/coin image, that's 0.585BTC at current prices! (0.0039 at poloniex).  That's an excellent bounty.  We need to drum up some more awareness about the bounty.  Maybe a dedicated thread about it here in the altcoin section?  Entrants could post their entries in the thread and we can provide feedback there, to help keep the thread visible and to encourage more entrants.

Edit:  I'm creating another thread for this now.

what? this is the stuff the 3% premine should be covering right?

One would think the dev funds from the premine should definitely cover this but the the devs didn't go ahead and create the bounty, so the community stepped up to get things done more quickly.  The Dev funds should pay for this, but we needed to get things moving.  One of the devs pledged 100CURE to the bounty, he didn't say if that was from the dev fund or from his personal holdings.  Anyway the funds are there and the either way the logo contest can go proceed.
299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN CureCoin is launched 5/10/2014 on: May 17, 2014, 01:32:04 PM
Curecoin logo design contest thread: please post your entries here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612699.msg6780942#msg6780942
300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / 300CURE ($250) bounty for new logo/coin image design! (DEADLINE ADDED) on: May 17, 2014, 01:28:55 PM
The Curecoin community has raised a bounty of 300CURE (and counting!) for a new logo and coin image design.  That's approximately $250 (0.5btc) at current exchanges rates (0.0016CURE on bittrex).  This is a call for design entries.  You can post your entries here in this thread and receive feedback.

Both 2D and 3D renders are welcome.  The winnings may be split, with 50 of the Cure going to the entry in 2nd place if there is a second very strong entry we wish to use.

Here is the Curecoin thread showing the bounty pledges.  Feel free to post your entires there too if you like.
http://www.curecoin.us/index.php?topic=3510.0

A few ideas from me (not requirements at all, just suggestions):
- Something cutting edge, yet cuddly and symbolic of healing.
- Gold or silver to represent value.  Maybe pink as it's used in cancer fundraising campaigns.
- Appears solid and tangible/weighty, not like a tiddlywink or a game currency.
- Perhaps if it was made slightly spherical, but still with flat faces on each side (spherical between the faces) to make it look 'generously plump', would be a unique look.
 - Has a symbol of healing or medicine, such as the DNA double helix or the symbol use on the current coin design.

I'd advise finding out about Curecoin before starting a design from the main Curecoin thread, you can also see the current coin image there.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=603757.0

The Curecoin community will decide on the winner by a discussion on IRC.

Good luck and I look forward to viewing the entries! Smiley

Update The bounty is now reached 300CURE!

Deadline for entries is saturday 31st of May at 8pm GMT
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