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2841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: September 19, 2016, 09:49:24 AM
of course girls also gamble money, in my opinion it is not that bad of the thing right now, because girls are usually way more careful than the guys
I think that the greater the level of curiosity girls than men. they will probably try to gamble, so it would be a lot of girls who play gambling out there, and so many are hooked. they may also like to play online gambling, and maybe they see that online gambling could generate a lot of money for them

Yeah it does. But I know that girls rarely do so, because the girls will feel sorry when they only get the defeat in the gambling and they will surely be re-thinking to do gambling when already understand the side effects that will be obtained. So, this is a spirit of commitment and also girls. If she has a commitment and tremendous spirit then this is something that will happen
Majority of them might not gamble but we cannot deny the fact that there are girls who are successful in gambling same as men. Actually in my younger life, I use to play with girls who are real gamblers and I have proven that I am better than them because I won most of the time in card games.

That is right.. there are many girls already are into gambling much more now in the advent of bitcoin where we can easily create an account to any online casinos that accept bitcoins for deposits and payout easily. Like they can create an account in a matter of minutes compared to regular fiat money where there are several identification processes needed and your account will be accepted after few days.
2842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: September 19, 2016, 09:15:02 AM
I think it's a difficult task, but it is surely possible. If you find a hobby or activity that can get your attention, this will certainly help you to avoid gambling.

Yeah it was hard for addicts who did not yet have a desire to get out of gambling, but if it goes into addicts who did want to get out of gambling. Then all the things they have to do to get out of gambling will not be difficult, because it is their intention already rounded. so, if you have the desire then we have to make it with round and full commitment
yes to stop gambling it need determination from the gambler, but for someone who already addicted, its difficult to get out, its same like alcoholic addicted, you will have difficulty to focus because your mind is at gambling and a slight trigger will make the addicted gambler fall again, so in order to get out of addiction, the gambler need more than determination, the gambler also need support

I agree to this that there is a need for support from loved ones, friends, and or people that specialized on addiction rehabilitation. But the one that really needs the intention first is the one that is addicted to gambling otherwise, every kind of support will be futile. Once the person that is addicted to gambling, admit and wants to change for the better, then it is te high time to make that change.
2843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 19, 2016, 09:10:00 AM
gamble, better i play my money by myself than i invest it to people or site which i don't really know , but different story if invest in something liek gold , or maybe land , etc
You made a new but very very accurate point. Whats the use of loosing our bitcoins to some shit coins ? better we try our luck and at least know that we lost because our luck was not with us.
Yes trading is good if I know what coins are good and what not, blindly buying coins in ICO is rubbish.

My rule of thumb is that, when a person is still new in gambling and doesn't have any idea about any strategies, bankroll management, and the like that pro gamblers are doing, they are better of investing a portion of their assets to reputable casino (NOTE: invest only to reputable casinos) and then never play their as you are earning some strategies in gambling.. only play to other casinos so that if you win, this will not be against your casino bankroll investment.
2844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: September 19, 2016, 08:45:07 AM
After tried every type of so called strategies I have reached the conclusion that nothing works for long term. In short term it may be which can be illusion that makes us believe that something is working. Gambling do anything what you will get in the end is just experience and some thoughts not money for what you work so hard to win.

That is correct, strategies may work for a short term only. This is because casino always win due to their house edge. However, if you have big bankroll abd have many sessions, coupled with some strategies that pro gamblers are doing, you can win against the casinos. Fact is, in gambling, you win some, you lose some - just play it wisely.
2845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 19, 2016, 07:13:33 AM
it is hard to leave gambling. maybe you should have a new hobby more fun as playing games or hanging out with your friends or more
Its really hard to leave in gambling if you don't try to live but if you try to leave gambling you can just dont play gambling every day just control your self and everything will be fine i know because im addicted in gambling too where i control my self to not to play everyday.

This is one of the best way to eradicate some form of addiction. You know, addiction comes from a habit - this was the first time you gamble and then regularly bets everyday or every week. Before you knew it, you are already hook and is already addicted to gambling. Well, one of the solution is to create a new habit - the habit of not playing anymore regularly and maintaining that for couple of days, weeks, and months.
If you are addicted to gambling then even trying to leave won't have any affect on it. As gambling will stay in your head forever, not unless you go enter into some kind of rehab that specializes gambling addiction. Also going to talks that I know are free can help you. Because you will know people who has the same experience as you will help you release some kind of stress in it.

Well, you are right that it is effective to go to rehabilitation that specializes on gambling addiction - it is true, but at the end of the day, it is only you that is the primary person to help yourself and no amount of rehab is that effective if you yourself is not willing to change or get away from gambling addiction. Hence, rehabilitaion facilities is not the ultimate solution only to gambling addiction.
2846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 19, 2016, 05:49:15 AM
the more rich i would be, the more i would gamble Wink
gambling is FUN.


FUN for richies!

This is true and the best way to approach gambling. You must only gamble for fun and not aiming for big profits because if you do the latter you will be having real hard time reaching that goal because of the casino house edge. If however, you are only playing for fun and only gamble money that you can afford to lose - whether you win or lost, you achieve your real reason why you gamble - entertainment.
2847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 19, 2016, 05:46:03 AM
it is hard to leave gambling. maybe you should have a new hobby more fun as playing games or hanging out with your friends or more
Its really hard to leave in gambling if you don't try to live but if you try to leave gambling you can just dont play gambling every day just control your self and everything will be fine i know because im addicted in gambling too where i control my self to not to play everyday.

This is one of the best way to eradicate some form of addiction. You know, addiction comes from a habit - this was the first time you gamble and then regularly bets everyday or every week. Before you knew it, you are already hook and is already addicted to gambling. Well, one of the solution is to create a new habit - the habit of not playing anymore regularly and maintaining that for couple of days, weeks, and months.
2848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 19, 2016, 05:36:41 AM
I gamble for fun mostly, I play poker so there is a chance that if I become really good I could see some profit but right now I am not at that level.

Poker is wonderful way to have fun there, that is true it's very profitable for skilled players and if we play more in our spare time than we can increase our skill and chance to make guaranteed profit by playing poker.
I want to learn this game but only to have some fun because i dont want to be addicted in gambling i know oportunity is there if you know how to play well.
If you want to learn playing with family and friends is your best option, and if you want to add a little bit of flavor by playing for money then create a tournament, everyone pays let’s say 5 dollar’s if you have 10 people that is 50 first place gets 30, second place 20 and third place gets 10, you will get tons of fun and you will not risk much
It is better if there is no money involve in playing the game to avoid being addicted, I know the money will give additional thrill but on the bad side it will also give you a way to start your addiction in gambling.
In a way you are correct but you must understand that in order to play poker you need real money, after all if there is no risk of losing anything everyone will just call every single hand, poker is a game that cannot be truly played without money.


In order to get money, you need money, time, effort - all of these three or either of them. There is really no free in this world that we live in. Unless you are up to things that can't be bought - and I still wonder how to differentiate the thin line between things that can or not be bought. Playing poker if you are  just new to this game, is preferably played with free money and when you get the hang of it and the required skills, that is the ideal time that you put real money in to it.
2849  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: September 19, 2016, 05:30:25 AM
I'm not very good at managing my money, because i always using my money even i need it for something. I feel like i want use it because tomorrow we can earn it again. It's really hard for me to manage my money.
Our earning here is not permanent so you need to also to consider savings for the hard days in our life, although we are making money consistently what is important is we also think of our future that we may able to invest and grow our money.
You said it right, there is no assurance that we are going to earn everyday here because there is no permanent in this world in the first place. But, what we should do is be thankful and manage our money the right way, always consider to save regardless of the amount you are earning as that would help your future to succeed.

If we value enough our earnings and treat it with respect and as blessings, then we will spend it wisely only to things that is worthy and valuable. Worthy and valuable defers from each individual. Hence, that is why there are some suggested percentage on proper budgeting like 10% tithe, 30% investment, 20% savings, 10%, emergency and the like. Follow it strictly and you will never go wrong.
2850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: September 19, 2016, 05:21:35 AM
every day iam trading bitcoin pair altcoin in poloniex
every week im gambling beting sport
so iam play both them

Interesting as I also trading most often now in poloniex also. May I know how many trades you have in a day? if we do day trade, I guess at least 5 trades a day is a good minimum. I am trying to do at least 10 trades a day but at max I only get to 2 max trades a day because I get scared Smiley Well, I'm am now trying to manage my bankroll by dividing it into 10 and trade those 10 within a day whether I win or lose - it is a process of my learning Smiley
2851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: September 19, 2016, 05:12:57 AM
my strategy is to loose.. then try to win.. then loose and quit Smiley

gambling is good for fun only
Maybe just give your money to me and I will make that amount grow in gambling, there are ways to earn in gambling if you will not give up chasing your dreams, though it is the risky game where you might lose a big amount but knowing the game will give you a chance and in sports betting I have found a good method to earn which is read the line movement.

He is just enjoying the game. He is not playing for money, so if he also loses he doesn't care again, he will play. I will also play gambling for fun, but I will play safe games. I am not interested in losing money. I will do sports betting and will place a bet on low odds. So most of the time I won. I just want a win, not a big profit.

Yes indeed, the way people gamble is different and goals gambling is also very different. It all does not matter as long as it has a good self-control. I myself gamble for fun and if I want to get my profits betting on sports betting. Usually I pick an easy game to predict because it could increase the chance of victory.

Apart from controlling your emotion when you do gambling, you also need a good bankroll management, creating of many sessions, pre-planned bets, and many other things in consideration to win against casino. By only having one, like just a controlled emotion, you will only end up stopping the session when you have some losses and in the process you are not really earning profits at all..
2852  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 19, 2016, 05:09:30 AM
For me Its depends of the income that I get in the real world job or the Bitcoin job.I going full time and quit my job in the real world if the Bitcoin job is higher than the salary in the real world job.
It looks to me that you're doing your job for the sole purpose of making money. You'll prefer no matter what job it is as long as it is the highest paying one amongst all the other options. Other people would choose their day job because they're passionate about it and would see Bitcoin as a way to earn more income. Thus, they do both of them.

Growing bitcoin alongside your day job will be a slow paced process.. The reason why people are quitting on their day job is to give more time to growing bitcoin with the hope that they will earn more than what they used to with their day jobs. You are right about working day job based on passion and that is all good. But if you really want to make it big in this bitcoin industry, you need to exert more time, money, and effort.
2853  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: September 19, 2016, 04:58:19 AM
It is not a suitable thing to put your all assets or money in a one field. A successful business never and ever do it, till the end he know about it totally, and spend a long time than may be anyone can put his whole money in a business.
But about OP, i invest in bitcoin only 25% of my assets, because of trading.

As the saying goes, never put all of your eggs in one basket. This is actually the well founded and accepted principle in investing. However, Warren Buffet, somehow contradicts to this principles in his way of buying stocks. There was a documentary about him that I watched on youtube few years ago about that and he said that that's what he did when he invested on coca cola. Well, for me this an extreme contradiction and with us average level in the society, I'd rather diversify my assets to combat against any big losses.
2854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 19, 2016, 04:38:37 AM
invest into gambling = buy casino

that is a sure bet, no way to loose Smiley

But for all people, it may not be possible to buy a casino because it needs a lot of money so they can start investing either in casino bankroll or any other good investment based on risk factor to increase their profits in the long term. Gambling is only for fun and we need to spend money to have this fun in gambling.

That is correct, buying a casino needs a huge amount of money. The alternative to this, if you really want to invest in casino is to invest in casino bankroll - there are few out there that are reputable and I will not mention names here.. One thing to put in mind though is that, investing to casino bankroll is not a sure profit for short term but if you invest it for a long term, then you will surely earn due to the house edge advantage.

IMPORTANT: What I mean with invest in long term is that you invest regular money or bitcoin to that casino bankroll regardless of whether you profited for that week or not. Because there will be weeks where you will be on a negative.
2855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 18, 2016, 10:01:14 AM
I do not think to gamble again if I'm rich because I have a lot of money we can do anything to enjoy in the life and if do you think to get rich from gambling it is it is very hard.
I think almost gamblers are rich they are gamble their money because they are just playing for fun not for making a profit..
Poor people are always looking for lazy ways to be rich thats why they are gamble their money expecting that they can make a profit but. result are loses all their earnings..
You are wrong on what you believe brother, the fact that there are many poor people in this world that would only meant that more people who are in the poor status are into gambling because they want to make money in gambling and wanted to be rich in gambling.


You are right pal, not all gamblers are rich since there are no rich in playing gambling after all in fact most of gamblers are just average people don't have plenty of money to play that's why they risk it on gambling in able and hope for make it to grow.



I beg to disagree. Gambling is for all status in life. Go to casinos and you will see secret millionaires and rich and famous there. What I am trying to point out is that, gambling is just for entertainment for all folks - whether you are rich or not. Now, majority of the players however, are coming from the average economic class in our society.
2856  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: September 18, 2016, 09:21:08 AM
I use them for both, currency and  investment.  Sometimes, I make profit with  btc trading and I also buy  with it, mostly digital goods.  And I save good part of it  for the long run...

Using it in both the ways is the best thing to do, if you are able to spend it like an currency then you can go for it and if not better to hold them for future to earn higher profits.

Aside from holding it for future increase in price, might as well invest it to reputable investment vehicles or learn trading and trade it for some alt coins or dollars -just buy low and sell high. The profit will be compounded with your initial amount of bitcoin and when the proper time in the future, if the price of bitcoin will go high, then you will have many profits Smiley
2857  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: September 18, 2016, 09:15:59 AM
I think not because banks will always find a way in order to continue their existence. If they see bitcoin as a threat to them then they will modify and innovate to compete with bitcoin and in fact they are already studying and doing something to compete the technology of bitcoin and then applying it to them. Another thing is that fiat will continue to exist so as long as there is fiat then there will always be banks.

Let us be aware that bitcoin has a limit of its production - I believe it is up to 12 million bitcoins and that is it. Hence, fiat money will still be around and so with the established banks. Let us be aware though that bitcoin was not created to take over fiat money and banks. It was created to have alternative way on transacting online comercially that is more convenient and private - people can choose as to what to use.

Not 12 millions but its 21 millions, apart from that I agree with you that there is no need in choosing only one if we have an choice to use both of them, as we cannot depend only on bitcoins at a moment.

Oh I am sorry, it is 21 million.. I'll be editing it now.. thanks for pointing that out - just a typo error Smiley Doing both - bitcoin and fiat money is the way to go. That is the wiser way of using it. There is no advantage in just doing one over the other, we should always adopt and use everything at our convenience and advantage..
2858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 18, 2016, 09:09:29 AM
hi guys, i bought 1BTC today and i am wondering to gamble or to invest the 1btc?

if to gamble
 
best site to gamble with a really nice provably fair..

and if to invest.

best investment program wherein no scam.

thank you for your opinions guys

cheers

Having 1 BTC is already a good thing by itself. If you want to find a way to increase that amount gamling is definitely not a direction where to look.

Investment IMO is almost as risky as gambling and the only case when you can at least try to make money investing in something is when you know personally people from the company you going to invest in.

If you really wanna have full control or want to directly grow your bitcoin, I guess learning cryptocurrency trading is the way to go. Of course, don't trade right away, learn first the workaround and techniques to earn in crypto trading. To be honest, there are many things that you should learn and even if you have many knowledge already about trading, it is still not guarantee that you always profit all the time, how much more if you have no knowledge at all and then trade?
2859  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: September 18, 2016, 09:01:17 AM
I think some people show resistance  to learn new things, but once they understand  and learn how to use the tech, I think they will start to accept it as a currency.

The reason why is that people who are already quite old cannot anymore accept this kinds of technology as they are being overwhelmed by its complexity. Although for us who are in our prime, that will be just easy.

That is correct. I just remember the documentary I watched before about floor traders who have stopped their trading 100% due to the emerging of using computers and trading software. They chose to retire than knowing all of those technical stuff that they believe are hard to do and not any more profitable compared to the old floor trading.
2860  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: September 18, 2016, 08:53:42 AM
when you want to buy bitcoin but you have to wait for very low prices, and it takes a long time usually. better take the opportunity every day, because bitcoin prices are very fluctuate, so you dont have to wait for lower prices or wait for a very high price to sell.


Yeah i agree that we all buy bitcoins when the price is very low but the right time of buying bitcoin is before halving, because mostly after halving the price of bitcoin will increase and reach a good amount. So keep in touch with news about bitcoins and also keep in touch with the investor, they have valid information regarding bitcoin price.

Are you talking about next halving which will be in the year 2020? So you mean to say that you won't buy before that, its better to buy at current price and sell when price goes higher and continue that process on regular basis.

That is correct. The best time to buy bitcoin is now. Bitcoin investment should be for a long term investment. Thus, you should buy bitcoin regularly at whatever price it would be. It should not be treated as short term like buying bitcoin today and selling ti tomorrow - it should be treated as long term otherwise, you will be disappointed.
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