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2861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: September 18, 2016, 08:48:17 AM
I don't cry when I gamble... because I've already accepted that any money I gamble with is already gone... if I end up with anything left at the end of it or, in the best case scenario, I have made a profit, then I am effectively "winning" in my head... as I didn't lose all of it to the house Wink

I never ever gamble with the thought that I will make money, so when I lose it doesn't make me sad... playing Overwatch on the other hand... man... rage city! Tongue
With the amount of money that we can afford to lose, we will never cry in gambling. Accepting our loses is very important so we will maintain in the safe side and we will stick to our aim why we are gambling, maybe we will only cry if we are gambling too much and we are addicted as it will never bring us good profit, instead it will just take all our money.
I think the person who are crying is people who are winning a jackpot prize that can bring him from being poor to be rich.. but people who are losing money i never seen any..

There are as many losers than big pot winners. So, the chances of people crying over some bust runs, is high compared to very tiny number of people who won the big jackpot prices. I should say that there are many out there who cried in their losses especially those who have lost more than they can afford to lose.
2862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: September 18, 2016, 08:04:21 AM
Today gambling make me cry again i lose 0.05 today i earn that bitcoin for 3 weeks from signature campaign and now lose it to gambling website i really hate it when im always loosing money i jist wasted 0.05 of my bitcoin again. Ugh

Then why are you still gambling your hard earned money if you are always losing? I think you should have learned your lessons by now. If you care about your earnings from signature campaign, then stop gambling that money. If you cannot stop gambling, just use the faucet of the gambling sites and gamble that amount. You will be satisfied gambling and will not lose any hard earned money.

I am also into a signature campaign and for all you know, it is not as easy as it is especially if you have other tasks done during the day or week. The payout is also not that big and so if you risk that to gambling, that is really not a wise decision given the fact that you earned that bitcoin by posting several bitcointalk posts during days of the week and you just lost it all. Yes, better use  just the faucet in gambling sites.
2863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 18, 2016, 07:58:55 AM
profit while having fun should never be removed with each other. This go together because once you remove your want of having profit then what's the point of getting the fun and once you remove fun then you'll surely ending up into addiction.

If you are into gambling you cannot do both if you want to succeed, know your goal in playing gambling first before you do it to avoid unpleasant result. If you are just gambling for fun, then do not ever after of the money, when you lose you will still enjoy because in the first place you already accepted gambling is a game of fun but risky, so you could lose your money as well.
I think what he trying to say chief is having a profit with fun as he enjoying playing then making a profit if he wons.
But i think he is wrong because FUN makes a people addicted to a game .just example i will play with no fun at all then whats the purpose i will not win also as i am lonely and not having an interest playing .
But i respect his perception about gambling .im just clarifying .

good point and this makes sense. there are really people who are playing just for fun whether they win or not - and the time they spent to gambling is very minimal as they have more very important and high-income activities or work that they laser focus to. Thus, gambling does not dictates their lives, it is just a form of entertainment and unwinding...
2864  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 18, 2016, 07:51:55 AM
Best way for me for a steady income in working full time while having a business in your own that handled by your employee and also having a part time using Bitcoin. Full time work fix monthly salary. I dont have my own business yet but every month i am earning 25k PHP with my full time work, part time job and with my bitcoin thing. 25k is already above minimum in our country so i am good with it at this moment.

If that is above minimum salary in your place, then you are in a good position to budget that accordingly for bills, family needs, productivity, entertainment, and investment. I believe, if the person's salary is below minimum, that person can hardly invest because the money will be allocated only to bills and family needs.
2865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: September 18, 2016, 07:14:41 AM
I think not because banks will always find a way in order to continue their existence. If they see bitcoin as a threat to them then they will modify and innovate to compete with bitcoin and in fact they are already studying and doing something to compete the technology of bitcoin and then applying it to them. Another thing is that fiat will continue to exist so as long as there is fiat then there will always be banks.

Let us be aware that bitcoin has a limit of its production - I believe it is up to 12 million bitcoins and that is it. Hence, fiat money will still be around and so with the established banks. Let us be aware though that bitcoin was not created to take over fiat money and banks. It was created to have alternative way on transacting online comercially that is more convenient and private - people can choose as to what to use.
2866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 18, 2016, 07:10:06 AM
it is hard to leave gambling. maybe you should have a new hobby more fun as playing games or hanging out with your friends or more

This is true, this is one of the most effective ways to stay away from gambling - hangout with friends and do outdoor activities that are fun, meaningful, and productive. It is hard that we don't have trusted friends to spend quality time with and share moments together - that is why, we should established friends.
2867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 18, 2016, 06:55:44 AM
Mostly for fun,if I make a profit that's cool but most importantly is to have fun and have excitement.
After all,that's what gets you going.
True, gambling is really made for fun, we cannot use gambling as our money making because the house not open it because we can earn also a money, the house is always making profit and you are just a player and nothing more. It is always our choice if we want to gamble to their sites or not.
I agree this gambling is made for fun. But in gambling, there are two types of games are there one is slot games, and another one is sports betting. I will play slot games just for fun because here our strategy will not work and the result is always lost. And I will play sports betting for both fun and profit, and here the gain chance is much better than slot games.
There are many games actually but there are games with no house edge which would give us a chance to win in the long run, these are skilled base games and sports betting, I love sports betting as I was able to enjoy the game and make money at the same time, for me, this is the simplest type of gambling so far.
Yeah a lot of people really want sports betting more than other gambling game, because sports betting are really easy to analyze whose team going to win and for me, I agree with you because I also enjoy sports betting and at the same time I can win profit.

It also depends on the skills and strategies to be used. Indeed many people who prefer to do the sports betting for some reason that's been much we know, but it does not have a definite guarantee whether we win or lose. The most important is being yourself and fighting fit the way we really want
Yeah it is always depending of what gambling game they wanted to play. There are really gambling games that needs strategy and there are also gambling games that needs pure luck.

For sure one of the best examples of gambling that are purely based on luck are lottery and slot games. Of course, it is not only limited to these 2 games alone because there are other many gambling games that are pure luck based. One of gambling that accompanied by luck and skill is playing poker.
2868  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: September 16, 2016, 04:37:53 PM
Well i am not that well in managing my money or i would say i am really bad in it.I plan every time that i would right every expenses and making a planning where to invest but when i see some good things to eat or some good clothes,i cant stop myself and spend my money,which later creates problem for me.

First of all, the good thing in your case is that you know exactly the reasons why you are not managing well your money. This is actually the first step of making things right - knowing the root cause of the problem and addressing it and start doing the right budgeting from there. I know you can effectively budget your money when you develop the discipline in following your budget and spending only what your budget allows you so. Hope that helps.
2869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 15, 2016, 07:21:18 AM
there is no required big amount of deposit before you can gamble. Gambling is safe if you will be cautious and always remember that you bet only what you can afford to lose.
The safe method of gambling only possible if you're not gambling with the very big amount. As you mentioned gambling houses never ask for very big bankroll initially, it means we can risk very small amount to start our gambling for very small bet amount. Very small bet amount is usually affordable to lose therefore your gambling will become safer by itself.
Of course you can do that but you cannot expect that you will behave like that forever, human are greedy by nature and the more you gamble the more you will seek for money because your brain is already poison on what you seeing regularly.

there is no bust proof strategy. This the reason why we need to have many sessions so that when we bust in the current session, we still have more other sessions that we can use in order to get lucky again. Gambling like dice is a game of luck and if it is a game of luck, it would be very hard to win on the long term gaming especially if you don't have a system and strategy in place.
2870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 15, 2016, 07:18:47 AM
Well i also don't know the answer. But if i win my bet i'm so happy and wanna make more win and be greedy and its not good. and if you lose you double your bet. that circlejerk will not stop until you bankrupt. that's why its so hard to stop gambling. wanna make our money back from loss

In short, that "emotion" is what keeps us betting, if we fail, we double our bets to make our gain faster, and if we win, we want to feel the same again so we repeat each bet, not realizing that it will not be the same the next time around... I think if there's a bad part in positive thinking, it will be when you are gambling, You are always positive that you would win even if the result is not... it would just hook us in gambling...  Smiley
correct! this lust inside us always wanting to keep trying our luck and instinct without realizing that we are already addicted and it is really harder to move away because what inside our mind is to make good strategy win back our loses worst thing is we keep on losing from time to time.
If you will let your self addicted in gambling then I would say that would be the end of your happiness in gambling because you will be a slave in gambling and your decision will be base on what you feel during the game, when you lose you will likely to make a bad decision that you will regret in the end.

This is true to ordinary, majority, and common gamblers - they tend to be carried away by their emotions and in the process, they will be losing all of their bankroll out of rage betting.. If you play on regular basis though like that of a professional gambler, then it will be ok because emotions are being controlled and only play on pre-planned betting.
2871  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: September 15, 2016, 06:57:17 AM
Actually I use bitcoin Just want to investment and tried to trading on crypto because many chance to get profit there and i believe only 24 hour you can get a good profit there',trading on Bitcoin to crypto, Wink lets say Bitcoin to Altcoin''otherwise

If you can trade with cryptocurrency right on time of big pump,  you will surely profit from it. If the currency you are trading with can be traded with Margin, then you will also earn by shorting once the pump is over and it is already dumping time.. There are many things need to be taken in crypto trading like the volume of buy and sell orders and the like. At first, better trade with small amount and earn experience before you go big trades.
2872  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: September 15, 2016, 06:06:17 AM
I would like to use it as an investment but right now I am unable to do that since I’m short on funds, so currently I am using it as a currency, but I expect to change that in the next year or so.

Good luck to you South. I would suggest that if you have other fiat source income, I would rather use that as your daily cash or online transactions and your bitcoin (even in small amount) will be used for trading. But first, you need to learn how to trade cryptocurrency and all other necessary things involve in the field like - the pump and dump thing and the like.
2873  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: September 15, 2016, 05:59:16 AM
I never run out of money so i think i manage my money pretty well

There are people who run out of money because of too much managing it. Dividing the money to different expenses makes you a good one. Investment, daily necessities, bills and more to pay, this thing should fall in the budget but will never get short. Sometimes they forget their own expense that is why they run out of money.

When you are good at managing and recording your budget and strictly following it for awhile already, I don't think so that you will still be short with your money. Unless that there is some big emergency that your emergency budget is not capable of shouldering that. Otherwise, your money flow will be smoother from time to time when you have that strict budget implementation.
2874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 12, 2016, 12:35:15 PM
There has never been a safe way to gamble and there never will be. Simply because that is what gambling is: An activity where you are taking a risk and thus are gambling with something of value in order to accumulate a profit from taking a chance with that level of risk involved.
yes i also thing so that there is any safe method of gambling, but still there are some ways using which we can minimize our risk of losing money, to me the best option is to do gambling on sport because while in gambling you will get an opportunity to return your lost money.
Yes a safe way to gamble is with self-control. With good self-control can minimize the risk of loss. It is a very good way to gamble because it is useful to avoid harmful addiction. Betting on sports betting also would create a greater the opportunity to win.
self control mean nothing when you gamble and in need money at same time.

you will forced to continue playing when you got lost , because you have a goal to reach certain profit amount to fulfill your needs. anything called safe method or whatever will not work if you gamble for money.

That is correct. The moment you think that a certain strategy is safe, you already lose. There is no bust proof strategy but you can use it to mitigate the risk of busting immediately. By delaying being bust, you give yourself more chances to be lucky - this is what professional gamblers does. They tend to create more sessions, proper bankroll management, and the like.
2875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 12, 2016, 12:30:16 PM
If I was rich I would still gamble without any doubts, the fact is that gambling is just so enjoying and you can do it for many hours and it stays fun.
If you are rich you also have nothing to lose, the only thing you should do is not put too much money into it.

it doesn't stay fun forever especially if you play the game over and over for many hours, that turn into a boring activity so fast.

also in gambling you can never always win so as they say, you will lose in long term. in other words if you continue gambling for hours, you will be facing that losing streak and continue down the hill. and that is no more fun.

Becoming boring when gambling is one of the many reasons why gambler loses because if it betting gets boring already, gambler tends to bet with high amounts to get that spike of excitement.

The reason why we lose in long term playing is due to house edge. At the end of the day the house will always wins.
2876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: September 12, 2016, 11:21:52 AM
the only gambling game that I like most is sports betting, because that was the only gambling that had most likely to make a profit. I did not much like slot games, because it's also a great need luck to win. well, actually, I hate to rely 100% on my luck, I prefer combining luck and predictions at the same time


I could not agree more to this. i am still doing sportsbetting now along with dice betting.. With sportsbetting, it is almost certain that majority of the game turnout is already known by you compared to slots game. Of course, there are instances in sports betting that you will ask why does my team did not win? my team of choice was way better than the team who just won? Well, there are some game fixing in sports betting but most of the time, you will win if you know very well the teams your are betting on.
2877  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 12, 2016, 11:12:49 AM
Why quit if your earning big amount of money on your job. You can only quit if your already tired on your work and decided to have a homebased job which is bitcoin.
I don't prefer to leave your real job... earning through bitcoin is good. and there is lot of opportunity to do so. but the fact is it is not stable... and for a stable way of earning bitcoin you need a lot of hard work and time.
better to keep your job and work in bitcoin as part timer. and build your work first.

This is the safest and wisest way to do it. however, if you focus 100% of your time to bitcoin and get lucky that your project will become very successful, the reward of quitting your day job for this kind of endeavor is very worthy. But, this is not always the case.. It is not guarantee that you will become successful in your new ventures in life. So, think and reflect on it a hundred times.
2878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 12, 2016, 11:08:48 AM
There has never been a safe way to gamble and there never will be. Simply because that is what gambling is: An activity where you are taking a risk and thus are gambling with something of value in order to accumulate a profit from taking a chance with that level of risk involved.
I do not agree that there will not be any safe methods to gamble. There will not be any universal safe method to gamble but definitely some users will develop their own way of gambling to stay safely with their bankrolls. I guess this must be already happening, but more percentage of gamblers are not aware of that yet.
yes it is a fact that there is no safe method of gambling but still i can suggest you to play gambling with a strategy and with in a limit, you should fix a limit for your gambling so that you may not exceed your gambling limit and always do gambling with in that limit and minimize the risk of loosing more money.

We have to admit it, gambling games like dice and slots are based on pure luck. Thus, there is no bust proof strategy out there ever built because at the end of the day, the house will always win due to the house edge. However, playing with strategy mitigates the early bust of all your bankroll and will give you more chances to get lucky on the process before busting all. Now the challenge is as to when to stop when you are already winning.
2879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: September 12, 2016, 11:04:53 AM
What a stupid title for a thread ! Why don't you sell your house or possessions and put all the money on one bet.
There just a some people when things can won easy from gambling, All in "YOLO" But without think for risky on this game. Realy wrong way ever, if have some mind set like this.
I guess there is nothing wrong with the title of the tread, but I think it is something that is already known by everyone. bet in a very large amount in one betting is bia make you rich in a short time, especially if you're risking your house for it, but if you lose, perhaps it will be the end for you, and I think you'd be losing my mind if she lost all bets
Yes indeed could become rich with a big bet but if lucky, if we are lucky we will lose a lot of bets. Big or small bets do not affect the victory in gambling. Although the stakes in large amounts can benefit greatly, but it can not be uncertain and depends on luck, it was a big risk and is usually done by people who have big capital.

you hit it right there! big or small bets do not affect the victory in gambling. This is really what pro gamblers are doing. They are not so concerned about the amount of bets they are betting.. What they do is just follow thier pre-planned bets and they just move the decimal numbers of their bankroll to the left.
2880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 12, 2016, 10:56:02 AM
There are people who gamble for fun or for the sake of entertainment. For them, they will keep gambling even if they are rich and then there are many who gamble to be rich, I seriously doubt people will stop gambling when they become rich as gambling becomes addictive either way if you loose or win. So yeah, if I was rich, I would still keep gambling with some money that I can throw away.  Wink

that is the right thing to do.Even if you are rich already and have many money in your bank, you still would want to gamble money that you cans still afford to lose. Being rich or have just enough money must not be the parameter of the amount of bankroll one must deposit to casinos, the parameter should be based on the money that one can afford to lose.
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