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2901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: July 21, 2017, 07:18:14 PM
Inno has a good reputation here. They have delivered in the past and backed up their product after the sale. That does not mean there isn't any risk, but greatly eases my concerns as they have gone to bat for us here before.

Those of us who have worked with Inno I think can vouch for them. They have done right by me even when there were issues with very early release hardware.

What we need now are the final specs on this new miner and the cost as this still sounds like this may still be in the early development stage. I am looking forward to the updates from Inno.

 Inno has a MUCH better reputation than Bitmain for reliability AND FIXING ISSUES.

 I just wish they hadn't priced the A5 way too high for most folks and IMO a little TOO high to be competative - they should have priced it in the $6K-$7K range.


 Going to be interesting to see where D3 and A5 pricing get to 6 months from now.



2902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New Baikal A2000 Giant+ on: July 21, 2017, 07:14:45 PM
Its simple, they need to design new chips on a different process, well not simple, expensive and time consuming, they cant just keep throwing more of the same chips into the same amount of space , or slightly larger without having limitations on speed and price and storage space. So im not surprised they cant compete on price. If they have a new chip in the works then it wont be released in a new miner until they sell all of their old inventory. They better do that fast before people get wise.

 They'll still have a market for their cube miners, due to the low entry price and efficiency allowing them to be profitable for some time yet, AND they do mine those other algos with no other ASIC competition.

 I suspect they are going to have to drop pricing a TON on the Giant, and drop the Cube price quite a bit though, once the D3 and A5 start actually shipping.



 By the time the D3 starts shipping, *ASSUMING* that DASH price doesn't drop in the meantime, they're going to be faceing a higher diff that's going to skyrocket fast.
 I don't see the D3 achieving ROI in 10 days - especially if the A5 ships "on time".

2903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Group Buy - Innosillicon A5 Dashminer on: July 21, 2017, 07:09:08 PM
I just got an email stating a 3 piece MOQ and an October 10th start for delivery.

 They've got the same MOQ3 and $9999 price listed on their website now.

 OUCH.

2904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Purchasing ASICs from non-manufacturers are scams on: July 21, 2017, 12:09:28 AM
One scam seller doesn't make all resellers scams - though scammer reseller sites ARE pretty common in the cryptocoin space.

2905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New Baikal A2000 Giant+ on: July 21, 2017, 12:06:43 AM
It needs only 430 Watt on X11 algo and the hashrate value is 2050 Mh/s on X11. Really good values. Not power hungry like Antminers.  Smiley

I think you may want to check your math... 2GH/s @ 430 watts = 215 watts/GH. The AntMiner D3 isn't even claiming to be the most power efficient and is only using 80 watts/GH.

 Prior to the D3 and A5, that was quite efficient for X11 mining.
 It's also a lot lower draw than any of the other manyGhs miners.


 Baikal really needs to work on their customer interface.
 Trying to order from them is a big enough nightmare that I eventually gave up on it.


 Bailkal was NOT the first folks to create an ASIC for X11 - they were third, behind Pinidea and Ibelink.

 They WERE the first for the non-X11 algos that their miners support though - and that MIGHT keep them alive 'till they can come up with a competative miner to the D3 or A5.

2906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 25GH/s with one RIG ? on: July 21, 2017, 12:01:49 AM
It's one mining farm that didn't bother setting up worker names in their miners.

2907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Ammount the Bitman Antminer L3+ Litecoin miner make in the next 6 months? on: July 20, 2017, 11:58:34 PM
First off, you won't HAVE the miner for months unless you buy a used one from someone, or a "July Batch" from a reseller.

Second off, even if you have it in hand by end of September, that still only leaves you about 4.5 months of mining time out of your "6 months" - AND difficulty is going to climb quite a bit as folks finish getting their July batch miners online and then again when folks get the September batch miners and get THOSE online.

 Latency shouldn't be a significant factor, my A2 Scrypt mining farm was only seeing about 1% higher stales when I was running it via a SAT connection at 650-750 ms lag.



 On the plus side for you right now - the only other folks shipping Scrypt miners is Innosilicon with the A4, and those are quite a bit lower efficiency and less than 60% of the hashrate of the L3+ so they seem to be selling slower and not affecting total hashrate nearly as much - and THOSE are also sold out 'till September.

2908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 2mhs on a nvidia m60 mining ethereum. wtf? on: July 20, 2017, 11:53:58 PM
1060 30-40 mh/s???

Nope. Maybe 25 mh/s. But yea, 2mh/s is saying something is wrong...

 M60 isn't Pascal, it's Maxwell.

 It has 2 GPU chips on it, GM204 like the GTX 980 or 980ti.

 2Mh/s says you're getting a VERY small piece of the card, or something is badly misconfigured.



2909  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What is the world's most profitable ASIC miner? on: July 20, 2017, 11:42:35 PM
What is the world's most profitable ASIC miner?
I'm not looking for Bitcoin miner, I'm looking for others such as Litecoin, Dash, etc..

 Of those that are in the field RIGHT NOW, probably the Bitmain L3+ on Scrypt - but they're sold out MONTHS ahead, I think the next batch to ship is schedualed for September and it's ALREADY sold out (they're currently shipping their "July" batch that was sold out months ago).

 Of those that have been ANNOUNCED but are not yet shipping, presuming they meet specs fairly closely and actually show up when they are supposed to, the Innosilicon A5 (30 Gh/s+ X11) looks likely to become the most profitable at least for a short while with the Bitmain D3 (15 Gh/s X11) probably ending up as #2, but I suspect the D3 will cost a fair bit less than the Innosilicon A5 (D3 price has been announced as $2699 but is not available for preorder right at the moment, A5 price has not been announced yet).

(EDIT) A5 price is $9999 - IMO this gives the D3 a pretty good chance of achieving 100% ROI well before an A5 unit can, but if the A5 meets specs it MIGHT pay off more in the long run due to higher efficiency.

 Both of those are not shipping for months, and with the new IBelink also in the mix, X11 profitability is going to get HAMMERED once any of these new BIG units starts shipping.

 I suspect the Baikal miners will stay profitable for quite a while, as they're semi-close on efficiency to what the D3 announced and not WAY far behind the A5, but it's going to come down to how much new hashrate gets added and how fast and soon - and what DASH price is going to do in the meantime.

 Keep in mind that most Scrypt ASIC are still profitable as Bitmain hasn't been able to ship enough L3+ units to keep up on hashrate vs Litecoin price rise over the last 3+ months - this MIGHT happen with X11/DASH as well for a while.


2910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: July 20, 2017, 11:30:06 PM

 2 molex to a *6* pin PIC-E I would trust, 2 to an 8-pin I would not.

 *3* molex to an 8-pin PCI-E would be OK with a GPU.



2911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: July 20, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
Just upgrade to the current version.
2912  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Difficulty contest rollover prize 2ltc 1 compac usb stick. Picks are now open! on: July 20, 2017, 11:21:36 PM
2.0 = QuintLeo
2913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: July 20, 2017, 11:19:07 PM
40cm long is that longer then normal?

 Bit less than 16 inches, which is longer than anything recent out of Bitmain and I THINK is a little longer than the A4, but shorter than any of the A2 varients I'm aware of were.

 Nice to see they added a "pre-order" link to the US site, BUT WHERE IS THE PRICE?Huh?

2914  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: July 20, 2017, 11:15:04 PM
This might be a really silly question, but the Innosilicon A5 DASHmaster is for DigitalCash (DASH) only?

 Any ASIC can mine any coin that uses the algo the ASIC is designed for, just have to point the machine at an appropriate pool or set it up with the right wallet for solo mining.

2915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Any word on amd vega hash rates? on: July 20, 2017, 11:09:58 PM
Well since Vega is basically shit for gaming, competing with a card that was released 1 year ago, AMD better hope it's good for gaming or else their video card department will go bancrupt.

 Too early to tell since they haven't released any gaming-specific cards OR had time to optimise the drivers much for gaming yet.

 Not looking likely that they are going to dethrone the GTX 1080ti at this point, though, unless they perform REAL WELL under DirectX 12.

2916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: July 20, 2017, 11:06:22 PM
Hi, I hope in D miner series with R design, more silent ad adapt to work in home environment.

W_M

 Given the design, it should be very close to the same noise level as the L3+ and pretty close to the S9/T9/S7 on noise.

 It's NOT a "designed to be quiet" design like the R4.
2917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is this a bad time to invest in AMD GPUs for mining altcoins? on: July 20, 2017, 11:02:14 PM


After what i've been hearing increased dag will render 4GB version worthless for ETH mining later on this year or thereabout. Then you would have to mine another coin than ETH.

 Late NEXT year at the earliest, by which point it probably won't matter.

 DAG file is still less than *3* GB at this point, didn't cross the 2GB threshold 'till a few months ago.

2918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is this a bad time to invest in AMD GPUs for mining altcoins? on: July 20, 2017, 11:00:43 PM

Well Zcash is hardly the most profitable thing to mine with Nvidia cards. Additionally, the 1080 TI's will maintain value because there really are not a lot of miners purchasing them in comparison to the AMD Rx series cards. The 1080 TI's are also pretty much the pinnacle of gaming so yes they will still maintain a fairly high resale value for about 2 years.  


 Probably longer, GTX 980 and 980ti cards are STILL pulling in a pretty good percentage of their original new pricing.

2919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burstcoin | Efficient HDD Mining | New Version 1.2.8 | Assets | CFs on: July 20, 2017, 07:36:52 AM
i take it burstcoin.biz is gone for good?

 The mining side is running fine right now, but it kinda looks like Haitch might be transitioning to a new software version or is trying to get cloudflare up for DDOS protection as the site itself has been down for a while today and is giving an odd redirect.

2920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: July 20, 2017, 07:25:13 AM
Some of the data is really questionable imho.
They write it can operate from 0 to 100 C ? No other miner can.
And also which chips should they use to use 50% of the power the D3 needs ?
D3 should already be 16 nm asic or less, it does not get much lower than that.

No way the D3 is 16nm.  The iBelink is 28nm and the D3 is less efficient.

 D3 is quite a bit better on efficiency vs the Baikal, which is 28nm.
 It's possible the D3 is a highly optimized 28nm design and the Baikal NOT highly optimised, but no way to tell for sure right now.

 I do have to wonder how long Innosilicon has been working on the A5 though - perhaps they were planning to release it late this year with no pre-announcement (like the A1 and even more the A2) but decided they needed to reply when Bitmain came out of nowhere with the D3?


 I think the main problem with the A4 was that Innosillicon was announcing CHIP level specs originally based on early tape-out, and found out the hard way that process variation on the 14/16 nm node is a lot worse than on previous nodes (Bitmain had the same issue on the chips for the S9), leading them to be way too optimistic about what a miner would be able to produce - or the cost was too high and they had to cut chips and run them at a higher LESS EFFICIENT voltage to keep the price down to something viable for a miner.



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