Yes, I DID try it - it wanted me to provide quite a bit of info that you didn't bother providing, along with ZERO instructions on how to use it.

 I still think it looks like it's wanting you to log into something - especially with the CAPCHA at the bottom of the page.

 No information whatsoever about how you are supposed to use this site to "make your own VBIOS" anywhere on the site or in anything you have posted.

 So you STILL haven't provided the needed information.


 If there is a dipshit here, it's not me, it's YOU for ASSUMING everyone knows everything about this mystery site, and how to use it.

 Depends on your electric rate too, ETH has been profitable for a long time if you had cheap enough electric.

 Bitmain is still trying to catch up in scrypt to the installed base of Innosilicon A2 units - they might get to 50% in another batch or two of L3+ units though, Innosilicon doesn't seem to be selling a ton of A4 miners due to the lower efficiency and despite the higher reliability since they got their firmware/software sorted out after the first 2 A4 batches.

 It doesn't help Innosilicon any that they won't sell single units.

 Depends on the 1GB card - both my GTX 750ti and my HD 7750 (and 7850 and 7870) cards are still profitable.

 They're not making a TON, granted, but they're all long since paid off, and the 7750s are low profile which makes them useful for now as "heat management" cards where I don't have enough other "shortie" cards to fill all the slots.

 Are they pulling in $1 a day net per card? No, but they're pulling in SOMETHING which is better than leaving those slots empty.

 "3 in stock" as the first line?

 It's an ad.

 There is no REAL reason for that, the only reason it exists is Claymore got paranoid about his miner getting fees after someone showed how to easily bypass that.

The only GPU ad on my local craigslist for a card that's mining-capable for the last MONTH was for a bunch of R9 390x - and the poster never answered their phone OR emails.

 (EDIT) Oops, someone posted a RX 580 at $450 this afternoon.

 Not betting they'll get it though, I'm pretty sure it was same Powercolor model Newegg currently lists for $369 or some such.

 AFAIK, Polo on ETH is the ONLY exchange that does that - and it's easily worked around by just setting your payout threshold to 1 ETH or higher on your pool.

 I don't recommend using Polo for anything though, they've had WAY too many issues this year and STILL haven't resolved most of them.

 The total network capacity has ALSO increased a ton since then, leaving profitability more or less flat overall, with a SMALL surge in May and June when the price outpaced capacity increase.

Nvidia 1070 is a good ETH mining card but USUALLY is more profitable on something else.

 I'd be real hesitant about building new rigs using ANYTHING for ETH at this time, if I didn't have very very low electric cost.

 It says a lot that the ETH network hashrate has been pretty much FLAT for about the last week - profitability is down to close the same level it was last summer, which makes it pretty marginal for most folks to mine.

 *IF* the price starts rising again by quite a bit though, it MIGHT pay off.
 If the price keeps SLIDING, it probably won't.

 Link doesn't work, wants you to do a login and provide a file name.

 How about a WORKING link, or provide the needed information?

 Wrong thread, X11 isn't GPU mined.

 That ONLY happened on the A4, they didn't pre-announce the A1 or A2 at all.

 A3 is a question mark, they pre-announced they were working on it but never ended up bringing it to market.


 Given their record on the A4 though, I'd be a bit skeptical and would insist on guarentees in writing of performance WITH PENALTIES FOR FAILING TO MEET SAID PERFORMANCE before I preordered any A5 units.

 The "all of a sudden" was last year, when 3 came out of nowhere in less than 2 months - each with a "lower" process node and higher efficiency.

 I suspect the recent price explosion on DASH is the cause for this SECOND wave of miners, coupled with Bitmain apparently reaching saturation to some degree on the S9 leading to them having unused capacity available at the foundry that makes their chips.

 Qatar is dry enough that evaporative cooling should work well.
 Water availability might be an issue though?

 Staff is going to depend on how much of the work you can do yourself and how big of a farm you're talking about.
 50 machines or less, possibly 100, no staff needed.

 1000 machines, almost definitely need at least a small staff..

As has been mentioned in MANY OTHER THREADS BEFORE NOW, there won't be an S11 model for quite a while - Bitmain can't design it 'till there's a new semiconductor node available to design it ON, and that's looking like 1.5-2 years away at the soonest - then they will have to fight with the BIG boys like NVidia, Apple, AMD, Samsung, and such to get any foundry time to MAKE any chips they design.

 I'm not betting on there being an S11 model 'till 2019 at the soonest.

 You're a mod, you didn't move it to the marketplace where it belongs?

When is the last time you could GET a RX 580 8GB for under $350?

 I can't remember the last time I saw an ACTIVE listing in that price range.

 Even the MINING RX 470 $GB cards are in very short supply at $250ish.



 Up side - between ETH price drop squeezing profitability to the point that "new rig building" has pretty much stopped this past week or so, and the mining cards starting to get available at least some of the time in small quantities, it looks like we're past the peak on gouge pricing and lack of availability.

 POS for ETH is just a matter of time, though it has been delayed a few times it's starting to look like the Metropolis "hybrid trial" IS going to happen late this year.
 1% allocated to POS 99% to POW won't kill mining, or even have a noticeable effect on profitability, but it's a step towards the end.


 The "DAG file size" issue with AMD cards won't kill mining. It will affect profitability and might drive a few MARGINAL miners out of ETH, but it's not enough of an issue to kill ETH mining.
 It might be enough to drive some folks to NVidia cards instead of AMD, especially the 1060 and 1070, as long as AMD pricing continues to be GOUGE and AMD availability remains very limited, but it would appear that the mining-specific AMD models are having somewhat of an impact on the pricing and availability issues.

 AMD cards can mine quite a few other coins well, but there are SOME that are going to remain NVidia strongholds.


 It's going to be a largely moot point though, if pricing doesn't start climbing again.
 Profitability RIGHT NOW is back down to about the same level it was at last summer, which wasn't enough to support any serious growth in ETH mining farms - and the last 2-3 weeks of price moves indicate it's probably a VERY HIGH RISK to get into ETH mining at this point unless you have FREE or VERY VERY CHEAP electric to survive a possible "price drop driven shakeout" over the next few weeks.

 No price announced yet.

 Only preliminary stats - and after the A4 I'm inclined to wait for an actual PRODUCTION unit before I believe posted stats.



 The S9 ALREADY HAD ISSUES when Bitmain tried to run it at too low a voltage in the early batches. That's WHY you don't see them pushing "14+ Gh/s" batches any more.

 They'd have to drop the hashrate a TON to get noticeably under the current efficiency level - and they're probably call it the "S9 lite" or "S9+" not the S11 if they did do something like that.



 As long as foundry space is booked MONTHS AHEAD on the very few 14/16nm production lines, and those lines are running flat out, chips won't get "throw away cheap" on those nodes.
 That doesn't look likely to change 'till the NEXT generation techs are in production.

 There is the question of how many of the current 14/16nm fabs will stay on that process, and for how long, vs the possibility of one or more of them moving to a new process.
 I'd bet the current lines stay put for a while though - more likely lines making ancient process will get rebuilt for the brand new process, or new lines built for it instead.

 Cost to produce a chip won't drop for quite a while though, only the AVAILABILITY will increase when some stuff starts moving to new process node(s).