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2941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: February 02, 2016, 01:04:01 PM
Apple’s ITMS (iTunes Music Store) is perhaps the most interesting example. People are not paying for music on ITMS because we have decided that fee-per-track is the model we prefer, but because there is no market in which commercial alternatives can be explored. Everything from Napster to online radio has been crippled or killed by fiat; small payments survive in the absence of a market for other legal options. What’s interesting about ITMS, though, it that it contains other content that illustrates the dilemma of the journalists most sharply: podcasts. Apple has the machinery in place to charge for podcasts. Why don’t they?

Because they can’t afford to. Were they to start charging, their users would start looking around for other sources, as podcasts are offered free elsewhere. Losing user attention would be anathema to a company that wants as tight a relationship between ITMS and the iPod as it can get; the potential revenues are not worth the erosion of audience.

Without the RIAA et al, Apple is unable to corner the market on podcasts, and thus unable to charge. Unless Apple could get the world’s unruly podcasters to behave as a cartel, and convince all new entrants to forgo the resulting vacuum of attention, podcasts will continue to circulate without individual payments. With every single tool in place to have a functioning small payment sytem, even Apple can’t defy the users if there is any way for us to express our preferences.

Which brings us to us.

Because small payment systems are always discussed in conversations by and for publishers, readers are assigned no independent role. In every micropayments fantasy, there is a sentence or section asserting that what the publishers want will be just fine with us, and, critically, that we will be possessed of no desires of our own that would interfere with that fantasy.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, the media business is being turned upside down by our new freedoms and our new roles. We’re not just readers anymore, or listeners or viewers. We’re not customers and we’re certainly not consumers. We’re users. We don’t consume content, we use it, and mostly what we use it for is to support our conversations with one another, because we’re media outlets now too. When I am talking about some event that just happened, whether it’s an earthquake or a basketball game, whether the conversation is in email or Facebook or Twitter, I want to link to what I’m talking about, and I want my friends to be able to read it easily, and to share it with their friends.

This is superdistribution — content moving from friend to friend through the social network, far from the original source of the story. Superdistribution, despite its unweildy name, matters to users. It matters a lot. It matters so much, in fact, that we will routinely prefer a shareable amateur source to a professional source that requires us to keep the content a secret on pain of lawsuit. (Wikipedia’s historical advantage over Britannica in one sentence.)

Nickel-and-dimeing us for access to content made less useful by those very restrictions simply isn’t appealing. Newspapers can’t entice us into small payment systems, because we care too much about our conversation with one another, and they can’t force us into such systems, because Off the Bus and Pro Publica and Gawker and Global Voices and Ohmynews and Spot.us and Smoking Gun all understand that not only is a news cartel unworkable, but that if one existed, their competitive advantage would be in attacking it rather than defending it.

The threat from micropayments isn’t that they will come to pass. The threat is that talking about them will waste our time, and now is not the time to be wasting time. The internet really is a revolution for the media ecology, and the changes it is forcing on existing models are large.

The above argument against micropayments is not true in every scenario (which is a generalized point I believe smooth also made upthread or in a PM).

For example, there is a crisis in music streaming because 95% of users don't want to spend money on streaming music and (see the following quotes) the payouts to musicians from advertising are at best $0.01 per play and at worst less than 1/1000 of a penny:

Paying users to view ads is not an economic model (ditto paying users to solve CAPTCHAs such as for crypto coin faucets). If it was, many sites would be doing it successfully and teenagers and third world would be employed doing it.

While Chinese consumers are increasingly listening to music on licensed services, the most popular services are free and supported by advertising, generating very little revenue for record companies.

As shown by Information is Beautiful’s updated-for-2015 visualization of the subject, signed artists make .0019 cents per stream on Pandora and .0011 cents per Spotify stream. The worst payout of all for musicians, however, comes from Youtube, which pays out about .0003 per play. An artist signed to a record label would thus have to have their Youtube video played 4,200,000 times in order to earn the monthly U.S. minimum wage of $1,260.

Pharrell’s ‘Happy’ Streams 43 Million Times, Makes Less Than $3,000

I believe users will happily pay a few pennies (cents) for unlimited streaming plays for each song they like. I believe they will pay even more to download the song as a file which they can do what they want with.

I note even my impoverished filipina gf was willing to spend 2 pesos (about 5 cents) per song for songs she really liked when the local internet cafe refused to let her insert her microSD memory card in the netcafe's computer to download music directly from youtube-mp3.org.

A subscription model wouldn't work, unless the split of all subscription revenues were subdivided according to aggregate plays, but then that requires songs to be aggregated by a provider who is likely to create unfair policies (i.e. transferring more subscription revenue to signed artists for labels that provide exclusivity so as to further concentrate its captured market) as the provider's market share grows (because they have a captured market a.k.a. walled garden).

In short, only microtransactions would have the crucial End-to-End principle for streaming and downloading music.

They key insight I am making is a very profound one. It concerns the proper design of decentralized social networking. There can't be orthogonality of services without microtransactions, because otherwise services (e.g. streaming storage) have to bound together with other capabilities (e.g. streaming players) which then creates captured markets and the resultant effects (which was my criticism of the future of Ello):

Economics and game theory seems to be one of my forte or at least interests/hobbies, so let's take a tangent and start by analyzing economically Ello's business model:

"Say you’re a musician or a band, and you want to control multiple accounts from a single login," Budnitz said. "We can charge $2 for that. It’s not for everyone.”

Budnitz says he has seen thousands of emails from users suggesting features for which they would be willing to pay, and Budnitz says plenty are already in the works.

Ello founder Paul Budnitzpaulbudnitz.com

"Let’s say that for a few bucks, you can buy an emoji pack designed by a popular street artist," Budnitz says. "Because of how we've built Ello, it naturally lends itself perfectly to that."

Other hotly suggested features include the ability to browse Ello with inverted colors, turning the screen black and overlaying it with white text. Interestingly enough, the feature saw over 500 requests, mainly from Ello users in Europe and Japan.

And while others have debated how feasible Ello's ad-free business model will work out

[...]

"An advertising-based social network is by its nature, it actually has to do things, because all those things are the things that make it money," Budnitz says. "If we started doing that, everyone would say 'f--- this' and leave — excuse my language."

At the end of the day, Budnitz says keeping Ello sustainable will be a relatively simple feat, given that Ello's business model is inherently different from Facebook's, and that means the costs are different, too.

"There are seven of us running Ello now, with some extra programmers helping us out," said Budnitz. "It is not very hard to run at this scale, and Ello’s getting pretty big. And data is really cheap! I think if you don’t have to have an office building full of people figuring out how to manipulate people into giving you more data, it’s really not that hard to run a network with a ton of people on it."


The problem is that due to centralized control, Ello is putting itself in a position where it has to compete against others who might want certain features which ameloriate other features which Ello has a vested revenue interest. It is simply impossible for a centralized, top-down controller to remain impartial. Some users may want some feature which provides some necessarily benefit to those users but in some other way actually bypasses the need to buy a different feature from Ello. These users presumably won't be free to program a plug-in that destroys Ello's revenue stream, just as no one is allowed to program a App plugin for Facebook which displays advertising.

Ello has just shifted the enslavement problem from ads to paid features.

And their claim of anonymity and defense against national security gag orders is BULLSHIT. They can't guarantee those attributes being a centralized entity. Furgetaboutit.

So right off at the start, we see Ello's principle founder is not thinking clearly or is disingenuous.

Not to mention that a site which charges for features can't scale as well as one that gives everything users want away for free. Nevertheless Facebook and SoundCloud are also restricting and harming some (but is it significant enough?) users as well, so maybe there is a better balance. Is it Synereo's decentralized design? I will continue the analysis.

I can say with near certainty that unless you offer some compelling feature where all their friends will want to join, users here in the Philippines will not be interested in leaving Facebook where all their friends already are.



Understand from the upthread guessimates, that Tsu's and GetGems' business model is fundamentally flawed (probably also in other ways):

[...]

Just a small glimpse into marketing strategies I am formulating.
2942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins With A Second Tier eg Masternodes on: February 02, 2016, 12:43:20 PM

Yep he built an instamine scam with presumably ongoing scam via controlling most of the coin supply

...and even on that aspect of it I'm more of an authority than you thanks since I'm supposed to be one of the victims.

Who recovers by shrilling (pumping a presumably ongoing scam) to greater fools.

I was writing about technological design and marketing skills for scaling adoption, which clearly my resume is INFINITELY (any number divided by 0) superior to Evan's

LoL ! I think I'll rest my case with that remark. You can dig your own holes without further help from me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219023.msg13752781#msg13752781
2943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins With A Second Tier eg Masternodes on: February 02, 2016, 11:58:04 AM
He built something and you didn't. So forgive me if I consider him more of an authority on what works than you.

Yep he built an instamine scam with presumably ongoing scam via controlling most of the coin supply, masternodes, and float.

Yep he is more of an authority than me on scams that work.

I was writing about technological design and marketing skills for scaling adoption, which clearly my resume is INFINITELY (any number divided by 0) superior to Evan's (the dude has absolutely 0 experience in scaling internet s/w to the masses). My CoolPage s/w (one man company!) scaled to 335,000 websites created as verified by altavista. And over 1+ million downloads (probably much higher in the realm of 5 million but I never tried to estimate it) when the internet population was 1/10 of its current size.
2944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FreeBazaar - OpenBazaar with Monero on: February 02, 2016, 11:41:46 AM
So this project is to integrate XMR with OpenBazaar, correct?  Or is it to fork OpenBazaar to a completely separate codebase that supports XMR?

At first stage just integrate XMR into OpenBazaar as fork "FreeBazaar".
On the second if it possible, commit all into OpenBazaar. If not (because BTC is very hardcoded, OB-dev may decline it) then it will be parallel/separate XMR-Bazaar.

I suggest you make your fork have an API so it works with any crypto coin. Then if they don't accept your commits, then yours may likely become the dominant fork, assuming you have the resources and skills to carry it forward.

Whereas, if you make your code Monero only focused, then it has no wider-scale attractiveness to gain the political support you need.

Edit: it also potentially spreads your risk of wasted effort away from 100% dependence on any one outcome.
2945  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins With A Second Tier eg Masternodes on: February 02, 2016, 11:08:27 AM

Except that it is neato technobabble that doesn't speak to the fundamental design flaws and Sybil attacked (given the insiders own most of the coins) masternode economics in Dash-o-scam.

You seem to think you know a lot about technical design concepts but be advised that you come across as a kind of immature 12 year old that developed an obsession for university math but didn't know what to do with it.

It you want to be taken seriously as a designer than I suggest you start behaving like one instead of an overgrown kid collector of bubblegum cards.

If you want to compare design and meager career accomplishments of myself to Evan, my LinkedIn is public. (photo was taken January 2015 at age 49.5)

As for your opinion of my skills, I blithely don't care and I recommend to myself a proactive stance of not giving a rat's ass of caring about your opinion of me. Because your opinion is irrelevant to the tasks and goals in front of me. I only have to care about my health and my production.

Should I bother to state that you come across as a person who has an attachment to a scam that has piss poor design fundamentals, and thus you lack discernment. So why should I care what you discern about me. Clearly your appraisals are consistently incorrect.

Note I am not even saying that all the programmers of Dash are incapable. I am saying it is all allegedly based around a scam, so if the allegations are true (and some convincing evidence has been presented) then it is impossible for them to make the design such that it would destroy the scam aspects such as we can presume the insiders continue to collect ROI from running most of the masternodes since they stole most of the coins in the instamine they tried to hide from the public or blame on a programming error and subsequent elimination of the future emission that was originally promised (so the insiders wouldn't be diluted and control the float buying from themselves on the exchanges to artificially inflate the price and market cap fooling speculators into putting their money into Dash which the insiders take out of Dash).

If that was even a model that could scale and help the world, I might even look the other way regarding the alleged insider manipulations. The issue for me is Dash-o-scam hasn't a snowballs chance in hell of ever attaining any real usership, so that for me is a failure for our goals for crypto currency. I am particularly perturbed by the audacity of Evan to prepromote Evolution as some phenomenal technological breakthrough when he can't change the underlying masternode scam. And he doesn't share any of his research in public for peer review (as I do!) so he can't possibly get his design correct without our peer review. I pointed out a high school error in his math in the InstantX white paper.

You Dash shills (insiders) will continue to make nonsense rebuttals and I don't have time for it. Go ahead, but your days are numbered.
2946  Economy / Economics / Re: Looks like yet another charlatan on: February 02, 2016, 10:52:26 AM
here is the latest one. He has been preaching gold below 1000 since at least 2013 as you can check above. It never happened, of course. Now he is saying gold should fall to 850 by March 2016.

Gold declined from $1600+ to ~$1100 since 2011 which was the peak and decline he predicted.

If gold doesn't go below $1000 this year, then you can claim part of his prediction failed, otherwise those quoted words above from you have been framed for my future gloating.  Tongue

And how about the slingshot MA has been preaching since last August? Where is it? And as always when his prediction fails as usual, he simply shifts dates the way he did with the Dow at 40K

How many times have you been told that MA has written innumerable times that TIME and PRICE are orthogonal. The point of his models are to define structure and the define scenarios wherein that structure is fulfilled. I was reading his blog in August 2012 through the end of that year wherein he made it clear that 40k was not yet a prediction and was the maximum possible and that we'd have to wait for 2014 year end closing to know if that move could occur before 2015,75 or after in the 2017 timeframe. There were 3 scenarios he wrote about in one of his blog posts.

You try to grab data from posts out-of-context.

Do you understand the concept of anti-aliasing? You are aliasing (point sampling) the computer model with insufficient data points. Please go read the Wikipedia entry for the Shannon-Nyquist theorem (I helped write it).

Educate yourself sloanf.
2947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: February 02, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
I've replied with my further thoughts on Zcash's funding model:

https://forum.bitcoin.com/post16280.html#p16280
2948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: February 02, 2016, 08:38:57 AM
Note the edit I added:

Edit: Cryptonote does have a per transaction view key. It is not clear to me yet if Zcash does. Cryptonote doesn't depend on a trusted setup (note this only impacts money supply and not anonymity in Zcash, whereas I argue that Cryptonote/RingCT has inferior anonymity due to meta-data correlation).
2949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The altcoin topic everyone wants to sweep under the rug on: February 02, 2016, 08:23:40 AM
Warned Zcash their plans for an 11% royalty on coin emission may run afoul of FinCEN guidance, and also suggesting they read this thread about the Howey test.

Surely team Zooko have considered this and have a plan to meet any fincen requirements. If not, the zcash is a dead man walking and someone will fork and release a clone without the 11% elephant baggage. Some smart tech people can be quite stupid ...

In the AMA Zooko was ignoring that specific question, he answered promptly to everything else.

That tells me he

a) pretends the issue doesn't exist and hopes it goes silently away as he has $1M duty to his investors
or
b) is careful not to say anything about it in public in order to claim ignorance later.

Or his legal counsel has advised him to not discuss such issues in public.
2950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: COIN WARS: And the battle begins... on: February 02, 2016, 07:31:28 AM
Apparently you don't understand that you are talking to someone who is much more astute than you and more so than most of the guys on this forum.
Ooops.  Sorry.  My bad.  I apologize for potentially supporting future implementations of Segwit (after it has been properly vetted and introduced by the incoming developer team - i.e. Classic Development Team) and making it appear that I support its implementation under the current seriously conflicted Core/Blockstream Dev Team, which I do not.

Now please do understand I showed mathematically that the Chinese mining cartel 51% attacked what is essentially what will be Bitcoin Classic.

Bitcoin is dead. Long live Bitcoin!
2951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: February 02, 2016, 07:14:20 AM
Warned Zcash their plans for an 11% royalty on coin emission may run afoul of FinCEN guidance, and also suggesting they read this thread about the Howey test.

Surely team Zooko have considered this and have a plan to meet any fincen requirements. If not, the zcash is a dead man walking and someone will fork and release a clone without the 11% elephant baggage. Some smart tech people can be quite stupid ...

Appears they are really this clueless:

Zooko (CEO of Zcash) is answering questions live now for the next 2 hours if anyone wants to participate:

https://forum.bitcoin.com/post16211.html

See my (shelby3's) posts in the above thread for numerous gaps in Zooko's knowledge about crypto currency (their team really needs someone like me but they've screwed up the funding model so I won't be joining them, much better to fork their code which is something I will be able to do if my other plans are successful giving me adequate resources to hire the necessary zk-snarks experts and then I can also expand it to smart contracts while fixing Ethereum's insoluble flaw). There is no way they can meet FinCEN regulations for the miners, because the corporation is not the miners. The miners will need to comply, or not mine.

Readers I urge you to read my posts in that thread linked above wherein I correct numerous myopias of Zooko. It will be very educational. I have explained some scams going on for Bitcoin right now.
2952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The altcoin topic everyone wants to sweep under the rug on: February 02, 2016, 07:13:31 AM
Warned Zcash their plans for an 11% royalty on coin emission may run afoul of FinCEN guidance, and also suggesting they read this thread about the Howey test.

Surely team Zooko have considered this and have a plan to meet any fincen requirements. If not, the zcash is a dead man walking and someone will fork and release a clone without the 11% elephant baggage. Some smart tech people can be quite stupid ...

Appears they are really this clueless:

Zooko (CEO of Zcash) is answering questions live now for the next 2 hours if anyone wants to participate:

https://forum.bitcoin.com/post16211.html

See my (shelby3's) posts in the above thread for numerous gaps in Zooko's knowledge about crypto currency (their team really needs someone like me but they've screwed up the funding model so I won't be joining them, much better to fork their code which is something I will be able to do if my other plans are successful giving me adequate resources to hire the necessary zk-snarks experts and then I can also expand it to smart contracts while fixing Ethereum's insoluble flaw). There is no way they can meet FinCEN regulations for the miners, because the corporation is not the miners. The miners will need to comply, or not mine.

Readers I urge you to read my posts in that thread linked above wherein I correct numerous myopias of Zooko. It will be very educational. I have explained some scams going on for Bitcoin right now.
2953  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: February 02, 2016, 05:50:38 AM
Readers after puking up your coffee too, I suggest framing these statements and hanging them on the wall, as a reminder when looking back some year or two from now and see how this turned out.

Unlike you who just keep babbling the same bs after MA like a brainless parrot with no factual support whatsoever, I do fact-checking and share results with everybody here. In other words, my participation here brings value, and therefore I am useful and relevant. Whereas you are totally useless, since you bring nothing but bs which is even worse than being simply stupid, do not forget that.

...

Not only do I just state that you’re stupid, I prove it over and over again and it’s very easy because there is so much of subject matter every time you open your mouth.

...

Nobody needs you to interpret anything since you proved that you’re not able to read let alone comprehend.

yep nobody needs to interpret nor comprehend nor use their power of discernment Roll Eyes

sloanf has a boo-boo on his infantile ego.
2954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DECENTRALIZED crypto currency (including Bitcoin) is a delusion (any solutions?) on: February 02, 2016, 05:40:16 AM
If AI progresses to the point where it can model and predict human economics it would rapidly replace humans as primary economic decision makers. However, rather then a single central AI I suspect you would see multiple AI's managing the economics of corporations and even households. The artificial intelligences would presumably not be able to fully model the behavior of other AI's due to processing power limitations. Thus equilibrium would again be obtained by a multitude of actors (this time artificial) working towards their individual goals and walking towards  equilibrium as if guided by an invisible hand.

The impossibility of a top-down omniscience was already proved:

This has already been refuted (by Lindsey Lamport and other Byzantine fault tolerance researchers) because the speed-of-life is not infinite, thus no perspective can be a total ordering. Or stated another way, due to the delay of propagation of information there will exist a plurality of arbitrary perspectives none of which are a total ordering.

Sorry. It is impossible to argue with that truth.

But my pragmatism is, damn the torpedoes and cover thy eyes, ears, and logic. Buy the dips with your student lunch allowance!

It doesn't matter how observers alter their environment, because they can never alter ALL OF IT because the speed-of-light is not infinite.

thaaanos can chase his tail with unbounded failed attempts to obfuscate that inviolable fundamental fact.

Only the Invisible Hand of the trend of entropy to maxium (because time can't be reversed, thermodynamic processes are irreversible) is in control. The entropic force is fundamental. Even gravity has recently been shown to derive from it.
2955  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: February 02, 2016, 05:37:23 AM
If AI progresses to the point where it can model and predict human economics it would rapidly replace humans as primary economic decision makers. However, rather then a single central AI I suspect you would see multiple AI's managing the economics of corporations and even households. The artificial intelligences would presumably not be able to fully model the behavior of other AI's due to processing power limitations. Thus equilibrium would again be obtained by a multitude of actors (this time artificial) working towards their individual goals and walking towards  equilibrium as if guided by an invisible hand.

The impossibility of a top-down omniscience was already proved:

This has already been refuted (by Lindsey Lamport and other Byzantine fault tolerance researchers) because the speed-of-life is not infinite, thus no perspective can be a total ordering. Or stated another way, due to the delay of propagation of information there will exist a plurality of arbitrary perspectives none of which are a total ordering.

Sorry. It is impossible to argue with that truth.

But my pragmatism is, damn the torpedoes and cover thy eyes, ears, and logic. Buy the dips with your student lunch allowance!

It doesn't matter how observers alter their environment, because they can never alter ALL OF IT because the speed-of-light is not infinite.

thaaanos can chase his tail with unbounded failed attempts to obfuscate that inviolable fundamental fact.

Only the Invisible Hand of the trend of entropy to maxium (because time can't be reversed, thermodynamic processes are irreversible) is in control. The entropic force is fundamental. Even gravity has recently been shown to derive from it.
2956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: February 02, 2016, 04:02:27 AM
No offence was intended

I wasn't at all offended. It is impossible to keep up with what I am doing, unless you are me.

Let me know please if you find out anything interesting!

I certainly have. And I am very serious.

Slogan:  "your world",  "the world that reflects myself", "shaping my world", or "change your world".

Crypto currency is too small of a field all by itself. We have to bypass mountains and reshape this world.
2957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins With A Second Tier eg Masternodes on: February 02, 2016, 03:17:28 AM
Terminology is all over the place (thanks to eduffield), afaict the most general term is ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlay_network

There's nothing wrong with the terminology, it's perfectly fine.

Except that it is neato technobabble that doesn't speak to the fundamental design flaws and Sybil attacked (given the insiders own most of the coins) masternode economics in Dash-o-scam.
2958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: February 01, 2016, 07:48:52 PM
Zooko (CEO of Zcash) is answering questions live now for the next 2 hours if anyone wants to participate:

https://forum.bitcoin.com/post16211.html
2959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins With A Second Tier eg Masternodes on: February 01, 2016, 06:11:17 PM
However good Evan is I tend to think all the suspect looking stuff will come back to haunt Dash if it ever tries to go mainstream

I wouldn't worry about it ever trying. The game is mine the speculators with images of soda machines decorated with Photoshopped Dash logos and other polymath achievements.

Edit: note Evan has other programmers working with him, so I don't know if we can attribute all of Dash's development to Evan.

This ad has been brought to you by TPTB and his vapor project.

The ad has been brought to you by a Vanillacoin (the plagiarist, anonymous developer "JohnConner" coin) shill.

What am I advertising? There is nothing for speculators to buy from me.
2960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: COIN WARS: And the battle begins... on: February 01, 2016, 05:59:50 PM
Apparently you don't understand that you are talking to someone who is much more astute than you and more so than most of the guys on this forum.

blah blah blah

You have a reading comprehension handicap. Try again:

while sneaking in the ability for Blockstream to add new scripting versions so they can later soft fork (version) the block chain to support Sidechains

A third advantage of Wuille's Segregated Witness proposal has Bitcoin programmers just as excited as the first two – if not more-so: script versions.

As explained in the previous article, Segregated Witnesses carry scriptSigs that unlock bitcoin. But they carry something else, too: version bytes. These version bytes preface scriptSigs in Segregated Witnesses, indicating what kind of scriptSig it is. If a node reading the version byte recognizes the type, it can tell what requirements must be met to unlock bitcoin in the scriptSig. If a node reading the version byte does not recognize the type, it interprets the scriptSig as an “Anyone can spend.”

This opens up all sorts of new ways to lock bitcoin up in transactions. In fact, it can be used to lock bitcoin up in any way developers come up with. As such, it's impossible to explain how this will be used in the future, since much of this still needs to be invented. But initial ideas include Schnorr signatures, which are much faster to verify than signatures currently in use, and more complicated types of multisig transactions; perhaps even Ethereum-like scripts.

And importantly: Like Segregated Witness itself, these types of upgrades will not break Bitcoin's existing consensus rules. Rather than every single Bitcoin node, only a majority of miners needs to adapt, making them much easier to deploy.
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