Whats sad is, when I posted a few hours ago, there was only one.

I applied the Scam Warning, not based on the coin itself, but because I do not believe that it is the OP's coin to release. It seems to be a bad copy and paste from its original release here https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1092-pre-ann-butterflycoin-bfc-pre-announcement/ with the additional fee to premine, which is not an option in the real thread.

Thank you Sampey for finding the original coin announcement thread.

Coblee is a great guy, congrats on the article. Should Litecoin become the partner to BTC as invisioned, it will be interesting to see how the difference between knowing who the creator is changes the outcome and sucess of the coin.

Satoshi (unknown) vs Coblee (known)

It is not your thread to declare closed or locked, so I can not.

I actually had 7 USB hubs each with 7 Ports, with 6 ports that were useable to Block Erupters.

Anyway, I am unable to keep up with the current price of Erupters in BTC, so I will be listing the remaining Erupters on Ebay.

Heh, too many to keep track of. It seems like a new coin is released in 10 minute intervals. Coinchoose is a good place to look for the somewhat established coins, as in the ones more than 15 minutes old.

Rumbitla apparently posted their account info, and a mod got ahold of it and changed the password, so this should be the last of rumbitla.

Recieved.
 .05 BTC to be sent after i3lome has recieved the erupter.



25 remaining, with a deal pending for 5.

20 Erupters, 5 Hubs, and 5 Fans actively available

Yep, that is an issue imo. However, if you read through Inaba's posts, a good portion of them are inflamatory, however, in response to another inflamatory comments. So the question becomes, whos more at fault, the angry customers, or the angry company representive. In a real business world, it wouldn't be tolerated, people would stop buying that company's products and that would be the end of it. However, that doesn't seem to apply here. What the community needs to stop doing however, which has been getting very very irritating, is provoking a response from someone, and then playing innocent and trying to use that person's response as damning evidence. I agree that Josh is an ass, but that doesn't give people the right to ask smartass questions of him, and then expect a calm response. He is posting bullshit in response to bullshit. There are exceptions of course, people asking actual questions, but there are also replies from Josh that are actual answers to those questions. In Matthew's case, I'm sure there was some more stuff going on behind the scenes, people aren't just banned for messing with a poll.

My solution would be to penalize everyone involved, the provoking and the responding party to the provokation, however, then we really do get into censorship and to what extent is Ok. Normally, if someone is having a spat with someone else, I'd forgive them as long as the heated words are flying from both directions, however, its been a nonstop spat for the last year, there is no progress to be made anymore by trying to further prove that BFL is or isn't a scam. There is enough info on both sides to write a book *starts writting* so starting new threads every 10 minutes isn't helping, its just spamming.

Back to the matter at hand, I find it somewhat ironic, that people are throwing the censorship flag, yet at the same time demanding that BFL's Ads be removed and Inaba censored. In a completely uncensored enviornment, wouldn't everyone be free to spam each other with Ads, Malware, hateful comments, people's personal information, and useless walls of text about making the perfect breakfast in a thread about recieving mining help? The fact of the matter is, the forums has a very very strict no censorship policy, and the only people who are banned or censored are those who abuse the rights of others to speak freely and read freely. If someone's asic device isn't working, and that person has to sift through 30 pages of pancake recipies to get to help, there is something wrong, and its time to start censoring.

What irritates me further, is people claiming misconduct on Theymos' part, especially when he isn't involved in half of it, or when it just doesn't make sense. He is not my boss, I am not covering for him, but for example, had I compiled together 10 posts from MNW that were all spam and troll posts, theoretically, I could ask a global mod, or more likely Theymos or John K to ban them. Would that be Theymos' fault? I explained a few posts ago, that unless Theymos decided that BFL's additional .017 BTC per week in ad revenue was enough to pay him off, the conspiracy theories as to why BFL is still allowed to purchase ads here are rediculous. Perhaps the Ads are still allowed here, because people have seen the hundreds of threads, and can judge for themselves whether or not they want to order from BFL. Perhaps Theymos doesn't feel the need to insult your intelligence by filtering out all unpleasantries and things that you need to think about for yourself.

also, I enjoy Gweedo's posts, for the most part he doesn't seem to be an annoying extremist who refuses to read anyone else's comments, so I don't mind reading his comments, even if they are critisms. No need to harrass him for a poorly worded sentence which he clarified a post later.

Well yes and no, Global Mods are allowed to ban people without talking to the Admins, although normally only on clear cut cases, and I'm not sure if they are allowed to IP ban or not. But anyway, who said anything about IP banning, Viceroy is banned for a week for spamming, its not a permaban or IP ban.

JohnK, Theymos, Badbear, Maged, MoonShadow, and Psy can all ban people. I'm not sure what your point is in quoting that Theymos isn't the only one with the ban hammer, and then telling me John K can as well, when thats exactly what I said.

I'm not going to spread lies to "protect my boss" I just personally like the guy. However, I will speak my mind if it means allowing people to see things differently, because right now, this is insanity. If someone breaks 100 rules, but is fighting for one thing, as soon as they get disiplined, it was 100% unwarranted, and the mobs assemble in the streets.

Orrrr he could have been banned for spamming. Also Theymos isn't the only one with the ban hammer. What if it was a global mod who banned him, or a regular mod who requested he be banned who has no access to those tainted ad dollars? For that matter, I'm confused why people keep bringing up the ad revenue as Theymos' "source of corruption". The forum's wallet is public, and you can see that those ad BTC aren't being spent, wouldn't he need to be benefiting from BFL's advertising payments in order for it to be corrupting him? Approximately 25% of the forum's ad revenue is split between the forum's 36+ Staff members. Looking at the last ad auction, had Inaba not bid, the person who would have got his spot bid .75 BTC less per spot than him. That x 3 slots = 2.5 BTC less that the Ad auction would have raised, had Inaba not recieved any slots. 25% of that would have been used for Mod Payments, split at least 36 ways. Do you really think that Theymos is being corrupted by the extra .017 BTC that Josh's ad purchase gave him? Something just doesn't add up on that front.

Price dropped to .45 BTC per Erupter, as per approximate current market price shift.

Thats not actually a picture of the person lol, thats Dog the Bounty hunter. He was some guy on T.V who chased down people who skipped bail, and then brought them into the police or something like that.

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Doxing is not disallowed by forum rules, as all information gathered by doxing is Publicly available. If you start posting someones SSN thats one thing, but posting name, address, phone numbers, etc can all be found through a google or whitepages search.

However, I would encourage 2kool to remove the dox and save it, while they and erundook compare notes. It really sucks when you dox the wrong person due to a technical error, and then some random guy starts getting hate mail and pizzas sent to their house.

I suggest for your next project, make JFK Coin, and direct the hashing power to decrypt the governement files of what really happened to JFK, then sell that secret to the tabloids, and distribute the bounty based on total coins mined.

[/Serious On] Yeah, people tend to stay away from trying to mix politics and crypto. If you haven't noticed, the Cryptocoin community tends to be the sort of people who don't really like governments, especially the U.S Gov. I'm pretty sure this is all a joke, but in case it isn't, I'd strongly reccomend avoiding linking your coin to any government even in name, you will get far more hate about it than if you had named your coin fluffybunny coin.

Someone who is heavily staked in low GHash ASICs will try and create a new SHA Alt coin, to attract all of the people who were left behind by the next gen asics. Same thing happened with GPUs and 1st Gen asics. The Scrypt Alt coin craze began to draw in all of those BTC Miners who didn't want to sell off their GPUs at next to nothing to buy promises of ASICs that would come in a year.

yup, but that involves purchasing >100 Units and also being involved in a group buy. If you just want to buy a few erupters, the aproximate going rate is about .5 BTC. Also, with coupon from BTCGuild, they are .4 BTC each.

I'm not entirely sure how much lower I'd go. Certainly if someone was offering to buy a fair amount, we could negotiate a price reduction, however the public offers I've recieved so far, I would not consider. As I posted in the OP, keep in mind that BTCGuild has now 388 backordered units at .5 BTC each. And there are many other forum members selling Erupters also at around .5 BTC each. With BTCGuild, you are preordering essentially. With one of the forum sellers, you have a definate shipping date.