In my opinion, trading is not an very easy way to earn money, like what some people think. There are many good traders who lost a lot of money in trading, even those with lots of experience.
Yes of course it's so difficult and unpredictable cause you need luck sometimes and luck you can't predict at all. Of course the better you are the more consistent you get but still very difficult in my opinion. yes that is a fact that it is very difficult to predict about bitcoin but still there so much expert people who are really predict in trading and are really making a good money. only those experienced ones,who know how's the movement after dump or bump,or even the one who always got the information on the first place and really up to date will success,and the rest who only trading without analyzation just like pure gambling counting on their luck it is not rocket science! so anybody who is willing can learn it. just you should know that it takes time to reach the stage that you can consider yourself a professional trader and then make a good amount of money from doing it. but it is possible if you are willing and have time to spare for learning and then for finding the good coin to trade.
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in this particular case, what i prefer does not matter at all. i may prefer to have all my money as bitcoin but as always, reality is a lot different than what i wish for.
i need money to spend for my daily needs and pay for anything that i have in mind so i can't really have my money in form of bitcoin, and i still need cash.
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directory.io is like a bad joke from at least 4-5 years ago and every couple of months i see a new user around here saying the same thing (this time it is Full Member).
* if you have some small amount of bitcoin knowledge you can see how wrong you are
* if you don't have that, but if you are not too lazy to search you can find out how wrong your are again (this question has been asked a thousand times and explained 10 thousand times)
* if you don't want to use any of the above, then if you have a brain do some calculations: this site was created a long time ago, if it really contained all the private keys don't you think people have emptied each other wallets a million times by now?!!!!
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That's an ok beginning for a larger company interested in Bitcoin mining, but I am curious as to whether or not they're actually going to be able to make money off of their investment rather than just break even. Having been mining for about 6 months and netting ~90BTC isn't bad, but it likely could be better. Chances are they're using this as a trial run.
spending the coins as soon as they get it = possible to break even after a year. hoarding the coins waiting for deflation = possible profit when the fiat value of bitcoin rises That brings me to a question. What would be the price they had in mind to release their coins to make it worth it for them and how long are they willing to wait for Bitcoin to get there? The costs of mining today are very high now and unless they are risking their own money which is unlikely, they loaned money to start their operations. This brings me to another question, why not mining other altcoin more profitable? So they can use the alt to buy some btc if they want to invest in especulation? Competition is hard nowadays... To answer your silly question, McAfee probably thinks that altcoins are not worth mining. You already know the answer why that is. There are already a lot of debates in the altcoin world and most of them are mentioning that most or even all of the altcoins are nothing but scams. Any serious business man who wants to enter and willing to compete in Bitcoin mining will not give 99% of all altcoins a second look. miners who are mining for money, don't care about this stuff. all the drama about altcoins being bad, scam, pump and dump,.... are for traders and drama lovers around here. what miners look for is profit and how much money they can make, and as we can see a lot of miners are mining altcoins. and any new miner like McAfee may not be doing it in the start but they will surely do it to maximize their profit.
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I don't understand why it is so high...
it is simple and only one word: "manipulation" the first period of ETH pumps made the owners super rich, because they were holding more than 80% of the coins as a premine-ico kind of thing and the pumps helped them make millions of dollars out of thin air. now they continue making more money with the money they have earned. if price is threatened in any ways you can clearly see the huge buy walls go up. of course this is if they want to prevent a massive panic and dump.
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Today ico's are great but you need to know who the dev is 100% of the time and its got to be the real deal. Dont fall for fakes and you should be safe to invest in any ico.
i got 4 successful ico previously stratis,jewel,singular and especially psb. if you got in and believe from it you will really earn big i think its the developers and future plan thats we need to consider before we enter any ico. even if you got lucky and earned some profit (even big profit) from an ICO investment that still does not mean ICO is a good thing. you can simply look at these investment that were successful for you so far and see how many of them are still as high as the first pump? thy all die because they are scams and a quick way of making money for the owners, premine holders and pumpers.
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If Bitcoin was made illegal by your government and the punishment was very bad, would you still use it, would you still openly support it?
so far, luckily there has been no laws about using bitcoin. so i am glad that i don't have to decide about this question in reality and it is only hypothetical for me so far. but in this hypothetical situation, i think i will still continue using bitcoin, even if it were illegal to do it. but if i wanted to start using it and it was illegal i don't think i would have!
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One thing I will tell you is not to do cloud mining, 99% of those sites are scam, to grow bitcoin you must put it to work or work for it, to put it to work, I will suggest investing in credible ICOs, or lending it out though the interest rate small but it add to your Bitcoin portfolio and to work for it, you can do signature campaigns and social campaign.
Cloud mining is really dangerous though they say there are some that you could trust still it is risky. I will just add one more. I just saw it in facebook recently I think it is called Zarfun? Tried to look at the details and it seems like donating each other but there are some pyramids also. Be really careful with those investments. if you are looking for profit then put cloudmining out of your mind. because in 99% of the time the cloudmining services you see poping up are scam and there is a very tiny chance that 1% is not scam but in that 1% the difference is that they will turn into scam because nobody can run a cloudmining service and make profit for themselves and their investors.
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It goes with out saying that so many people are trying to make a quick buck investing in absurd altcoins that do nothing expect defecate on the very idea of Bitcoin. They invest they lose - in my opinion they deserve to lose every penny they put in to these abominations.
Is it just me?
this is the desperate attempt into earning money and people like these altcoin developers you are talking about, exploit that desperation and fill their pockets with poor gullible people around here who are looking to make 0.001 BTC into 0.002 BTC
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Most of us are pursuing the goal of achieving a financially independent life with Bitcoin.
i doubt that! most of the people using bitcoin are looking to earn fiat from it. that is why when you ask people bitcoin is currency or investment they all vote: investment! So the question is, have you already reached your financial goals and/or become a USD millionaire through Bitcoin?
i am a millionaire but if you are counting satoshis but to answer your other questions, not not yet i sill have more goals to achieve with bitcoin that i am not yet close to.
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I had experience of using bot for my trading. The problem I faced with the bot was I need to set up moving average kind of parameters so that bot detect swings and will place orders, but the bot I used, generated fake calls on news hours, so I forced to trade only on non-news hours. In those hours market will not show much movements, finally I concluded not to use any bots.
This is mainstream problem when we are using bots that we need to set up always the average of parameters so that it can work properly when it comes of placing orders and sellings , But for me i don't considered my self to use bots because bots are just for lazy who don't want to waste time from trading. i don't agree with the last part of what you said. bots are for making things easier and 1000 times faster, and also in so many cases you can use bots to eliminate mistakes. because humans make mistakes either because of being tired, distracted or even emotional, all of these are eliminated when using a bot.
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A lot of alt-coins are having issues and people are pulling their investments out. People will probably also start spending a bit more towards Christmas and the demand will rise a bit. I think $650 near the end of the year is a pretty safe bet.
I do heard also that some altcoin does have an issue and maybe this would lead to people to go back again with bitcoin and as you said demand would surely rise espcially on occasion like christmas but still we wont know on what would be the reason for bitcoin to rise up this year end. Lets just wait and witness it on upcoming months. nobody ever left bitcoin to come back so what you are saying here is wrong. although from time to time there is a big pump happening in some of the bigger altcoins but in the end there is only investors who go there temporarity with their money to double, triple,... it and come back to buy bitcoin with a lot more money. but it is never because of the problems altcoins have because those problems always exist and that is why none of them ever grow.
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What do you guys think it would happen if all the governments in the world declared bitcoin to be illegal? How do you think the community would react? What could be the possible solutions?
If this happen i will be on beastmode because why goverments so much care about this currencies bitcoin help us in many ways and i think if they going to make this happened maybe they want that bitcoin give them kickback or share atleast once because all goverments are really curropt the thing about bitcoin is that you can never ban using it. on paper it is possible to call it illegal for merchants to accept bitcoin but in reality what happens is that people are going to continue using it. you can see on local boards that all the countries have a board there and even those countries that have banned bitcoin have a board and a lot of active members.
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the idea of bitcoin giveaway through giving away paper wallets with private keys and some small amounts on them have been discussed here before.
and in my opinion, i think it is a bad idea because people will sell the coins for fiat as their first act. it may help bitcoin become the headlines and increase the popularity for a short time and for a small amount but i don't think it can help the adoption at all.
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Not sure why this is happening, maybe because of the incoming hard fork, people are scared of this word because of the DAO. Below 0.02 BTC atm, might be a good time to buy some more.
exactly this is true! there is another talk of hard fork for ethereum and also you should consider that we are in a bubble. if you look at the charts you can see that price has recently gone up a lot and it should have came down so here we are coming down. to OP, you can take risks and buy tomorrow (weekend) or wait for the real bottom.
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China will keep getting most of the hashing power as long as its profitable to do so, and this coupled with the fact that no one is still competing against them will keep making the China monopoly bigger, but Andreas says that we will see new technology developed that will decentralize mining again.
many who say China is controlling bitcoin are saying this because they see this distribution of hash rates but all of these are either new to bitcoin or have no long term memory because not so long ago this hash rate distribution was the exact opposite and US had more than 60% of hash rate and nobody was thinking bitcoin is centralized.
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market cap is a crappy thing for comparing "altcoins" in the real world it is actually a good way of comparing things because the total supply in real world doesn't come out of nowhere and there is something behind it.
but in altcoins since you can change available supply with a single line of code then you can manipulate the market cap to stay up.
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you shouldn't really hold that much money in the first place.
in my experience money should never be held, instead you should invest it. you may argue that having money in form of bitcoin is an investment on its own but you should remember that the early 2009 days are over and price will never rise like that and the only profit will be small profit you gain from small rises.
so it is a lot better to invest that money and if you have a lot like 12BTC then it is suggested to invest it in a business or start a business on your own.
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reading some of the comments in this topic i have got the feeling that some people think bitcoin is like magic beans or something that you can use to reach a magical world!!!
it is just money and it helps individuals get rid of the centralized banking system and all the negativity that comes with that system.
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I think invest on gambling sites like dice sites is really good, i know some dice sites that have a good investment. Once i get 10% interest in a week on that site.
Gambling is not profitable in the long run you need to avoid investing money on that, must good to do trading instead to gamble, most of the users do gambling is not to have profit is just for their fun and that is only for rich people who have a lot of money for capital. I think the person you are talking to were actually referring about investing in a dice site not betting on it. Gambling wouldn't take you somewhere but below were you currently are. It's very different from investing. I just hope that the person you are talking to wouldn't mind mentioning those "dice sites" that he invested in. Otherwise, I would think it's just another made up story. There's not that much legit gambling sites that you can invest to as we can observe. Investing in dice sites seems to be a real deal. I don't know why madwica won't tell you in which sites he invests himself, but here are the top 5 sites considered to be legitimate and trustworthy among casinos that allow investing in their bankroll: 1) BetKing 2) MoneyPots 3) SafeDice 4) Crypto-Games 5) Satoshi Dice You may also want to look through the Gambling section, it has a few actively discussed topics regarding this matter. first of all moneypot has not been having any good days for their investors. there have been a period of downfall and a lot of losses for investors which is weird if you ask me also investing in casino bankroll is not the best option and it never was. you can make profit but the profit is not that big to interest many of us. also the risks that this investment has are terribly high.
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