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2401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Even the great Firewall cant stop Bitcoin trading in china on: March 12, 2017, 02:24:53 PM
nobody can ever block bitcoin usage. they can restrict it and push people away but nobody in the whole world can prevent us from continuing to use bitcoin you just need pen and paper at the very least to make a private key for yourself with something like a dice and then convert it to a public key and give it to others to pay you or transfer bitcoin p2p.
and even for broadcasting trasnactions you can use any type of online website to do it easily.
2402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Pump and Dump coins history? on: March 11, 2017, 11:39:41 AM
I'm looking for old data (and new ones) on Pump and Dump coins (regardless if they've gone beyond the wind or still exist) to use for a university project, no idea where to look for them though as I don't have enough experience with alt coins.
check out http://coinmarketcap.com/ it has all the "alive" coin. for dead ones i am afraid you have to dig through the announcement topics.

The data I'm looking for is anything related to that coin, but main stuff are:
1-exchange websites that had this coin (with add/remove dates and you'll be awesome)
the same http://coinmarketcap.com/ click on any coin that you like and go to the markets tab and see all the exchanges that have that coin currently.
again if an exchange delisted that coin you can only find it in the history of the ANN topic.
example http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#markets

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2-price charts (prefer raw data that will allow me to draw the chart as it suits my application)
go to Poloniex (it is an altcoin exchange) then visit their API page (don't have to sign up or anything) look up their chart API call (i think is called) it gives you the history you can set it to 1440 and get the daily OHLC points.

e.g. https://poloniex.com/public?command=returnChartData&currencyPair=BTC_ETH&start=0&end=9999999999&period=1440

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3-bitcointalk threads/posts related to this coin
usually coinmarketcap has the link to the ANN topic but they are all here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0

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4-other forums that coin was popular (or at least got some attention) on
some coins like litecoin, ethereum, Reddcoin and lot of others have their own forum that is specific to the coin.

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5-anything else that can be useful
can't think of anything but make sure to share the results with us when you finished your project if it was possible.

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It'll be awesome if you guys can pass me some data or help me find them (maybe name few old coins to look for?).
Thanks in advance.
check out Ethereum for the biggest pump coin of this year.
you can see the most recent pumps in ETH, Dash, ZCash.

p.s. FTC (Feather) is one of the biggest pump and dump shitcoins of all times that hasn't yet stopped pumping and it has at least one major pump each year for no reason.
2403  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: BitCoin Feed - to monitor price on: March 11, 2017, 11:28:27 AM
open any of the bitcoin exchange services website and go to your trading area where they have orderbooks and charts and you'll get the livest feed you can get Smiley

but also there are third parties such as preev.com to get the price quick but updating slowly. or use bitcoinwisdom.com to see live (updating every 1-2 seconds i think).

or if you are a programmer, use any of these exchanges API service to get the price

is there any particular reason that you want something like this?
2404  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will we see $1300 again? on: March 11, 2017, 11:20:52 AM
So when does everyone think we will breach, and hopefully stay over, the $1300 mark again?

just like other million and one topics asking when we reach $XX price this one has the same answer. NOBODY KNOWS.
the only thing that we can say with a high certainty is that we will see it and with less certainty we will see it this year and with less certainty withing 2 months.
and there are always unpredictable events such as bitfinex getting hacked, Chinese dumping FUD,... that slow the rise down.

2 days?

we saw $1350 reached on all the major exchanges less than 24 hours ago Grin
2405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why would there be just one cryptocurrency? on: March 11, 2017, 11:14:52 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, and move me if this is the wrong board, but in my opinion we should not focus on how to make Bitcoin do everything. Right now Bitcoin works well as a store of value, digital gold if you will. A $1 transaction fee means nothing to a $1,000,000 transaction. It does however severely cripple smaller payments, something that a cryptocurrency could be very good at.

Now it is my understanding that the point of SegWit/BU is to allow Bitcoin to be used for smaller payments by bringing that transaction fee down. Instead of making Bitcoin the jack of all trades, why not have multiple cryptocurrencies that each excel in their own areas? Leave Bitcoin exactly as is, and invest money and time into establishing a micropayment currency, a smart contract currency, etc...

Just some food for though.
Johnny


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Why try and make Bitcoin do everything instead of having an ecosystem of specialized currencies?

you have some major mistakes. in my opinion.
- bitcoin was never supposed to be a store of value. it was always meant to be a digital cash, and i believe this is one of the reasons it is being adopted. if it becomes just an investment that means we are trading numbers on our screen and that is pointless in my opinion.

- also the biggest mistake you made is that you are assuming it is not possible with bitcoin. but it is! if scaling was something that was 100% impossible then you were right we should have thought about alternatives but it is possible and everything was fined a year ago and before that. things are messy these days only. and i hope we again see fine days after we are past this period.
2406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So no one cares about ETF decision, right? on: March 11, 2017, 11:08:05 AM
We haven't seen any huge downfall (as expected) after the decision of ETF. Do you think that we as bitcoin users have not paid any value to the ETF's decision?
first of all post speculation in speculation board not here.
secondly there was a "downfall" as you lot like to call it! and it bounced back up, and it is even visible in your chart that you included.
finally if you want charts look at the charts from bitcoinwisdom that come directly from price. coindesk and similar services report an average price which is not accurate but good enough to see what is happening.

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In the case of disapproval, the predictions were floating around below $1,000 mark but we haven't seen any such mark.
there is a big difference between prediction/speculation and bullshit. saying price will fall down to $800 or rising to $2000 in a week because of ETF rejection or approval respectively is bullshit as i have been saying all along in previous weeks.
2407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: whether one dogecoin could be $ 1? on: March 09, 2017, 12:04:21 PM
In the crytocurrency world any thing can happen. Cant say it wont reach 1 dollar. But not any time sooner. Now its bitcoin's time. If people start collecting dogecoin its price will increase. If more demand and less supply , the price will increase. I always collect dogecoin from faucets thinking one day, its price will increase.

I think you are talking about pump here?  Well indeed any coins can be pump to the moon, but the problem will be, can it be maintain at that price?  Basically the anser is no. In terms of price there is a possibility and the method as I stated would be a pump.  Price involves community demand, total coin in circulation and the total coin to be in circulation afte x amount of time.  Going to the normal route (no pumping) to achieve $1  for dogecoin is actually impossible IMHO.

no actually not all coins can be pumped to the moon. unless by moon you mean a 10% rise then yeah any altcoin can do that.
but if by moon you mean the real meaning such as increasing at least 100%-200% then no not all of the altcoins can have that. there needs to be some real thing there so that people come and invest in it so that the demand rises at least temporarily and then there shouldn't be such a big sell pressure and doge has this sell pressure and also its demand can not go up at all.
2408  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trading on: March 09, 2017, 11:54:52 AM
In altcoin trading,is day trading profitable or trading on a long term basis?

in my opinion day trading is profitable and it actually is more profitable than doing it long term.
because altcoins are usually dead in the long term or even if they are not dead like the top altcoins, they have very lengthy dead times in between their pumps.
this means in the short term when they are getting pumped or even having daily fluctuations you can get in and make some profit.
2409  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin has defeated gold on: March 09, 2017, 11:48:10 AM
Bitcoin: $1260/BTC
Gold: $1241/xau
Well, I can not believe that the Bitcoin prices has crossed over gold sooner than I expect. I thought the process would be finished in April. Wow, Bitcoin is truly worth and everyone who has sold their Bitcoin has made a huge mistake. Nothing can stop Bitcoin right now.

Just compare the total value of all gold in circulation and the total value of all bitcoins in circulation.
You will have your answer.  Smiley
Yeah better to total and sum all bitcoins and gold that is circulating in the market to know if bitcoin really do overcome bitcoin gold by this time

your problem is thinking there is only 21 million bitcoins available but in fact there is 21 million * 10^8 satoshi available.
how come when you are comparing gold you are using the smallest unit, you should do the same with bitcoin too.
also on top of that you should consider the history of these two. bitcoin has only an 8 year history (practically a toddler) while gold has been around for as long as currency was around and even before.
2410  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy, Sell, or just watch on: March 09, 2017, 11:42:41 AM
short term it is not possible at all to predict what is going to happen, there are too many variables to do it at this point.
the ETF and China alone make it hard, now that there is a new FUD about fork and splitting bitcoin (which is all lies) is causing some panic it becomes even harder to predict.
which means you have to wait and see what will happen and then decide.

but in long term you can easily be sure about the rise which means buying now is a good time because we are technically in a dip.
2411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin mining centralized on: March 09, 2017, 11:36:03 AM
Bitcoin mining is a good concept which provides reward for miners who help to solve the transactions.But,nowadays,has it made bitcoin get accumulated in the hands of only those who can afford thousands of dollars of ASIC hardware? Has bitcoin been centralized?

read what you just said once again and you see where you have been wrong.

you yourself are saying mining equipment is expensive and in the hands of those who can afford to invest in equipment then say bitcoin is centralized!

and besides nobody is preventing you or anybody else from starting to mine bitcoin, if you want to earn the reward or just as a hobby you can mine and fight the centralization of mining.
2412  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 08, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
You forget the chinese withdrawals that start tomorrow. When the chinese people see that the price is dropping they always panic and sell. So this means that wee can expect a drop tommorrow, and when ETF is not approved, what is likely to happen, will cause in an another drop. We are going to test 950 usd

And on top of that all this BU llshit makes me all bullish. You know, "Buy when there is FUD in the streets". Not to fast, nor to slow. It's picking up Bitcoins at a bargain time. Later living that "Bitcoin summer" when the harvest for the brave comes in.

Exactly. The FUD and the price going down is a good signal we may see a significant price rise soon (and the ETF being approved). This market is totally manipulated by whales. Apparently they want cheap coins.

If we were still going up right now I'd be bearish.

that's right.
i am actually starting to like news FUD like this because it always means a big dip and in these dips everyone gets a lot of money to buy even more bitcoin and make the next accumulation like a piece of cake leading to an even bigger price rise.

if ETF is approved i'll see you at above $1500
2413  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: blockchain.info huge transactions on: March 08, 2017, 10:00:41 AM
oh, so even if I'd use another client for creating these transactions, that would be the same and it's not fault of blockchain.info

that is correct.
although different wallets may use different ways of suggesting appropriate fee but they usually are in the same range. you can also always use this website for more information: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

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thanks for enlightening me!

But is there any tool to see the size of the transaction before sending it?

your wallet should do that for you. it automatically makes a guess of transaction size then makes an estimate of current fee and gives you final result to make it easy for the end user.
although they usually have an advance section to show you the size and fee in satoshi/byte
i know electrum allows you to set it with an slider and if you preview the transaction before signing it shows you size of the transaction also.
2414  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: blockchain.info huge transactions on: March 08, 2017, 09:50:23 AM
look at your transaction like this: https://blockchain.info/de/tx/1defc8711cfc0492f0bc84a56cf4c9e747fe785a6d23d1d4b914448086e0e034?show_adv=true

do you see on the right side those lines saying "Ausgabe" or in English output, those are outputs or in other words transactions you received. and when you are sending bitcoin you are in fact spending these.

when you spend multiple outputs your transaction size grows with the number of these you spend. you have 6 of them and you are creating 2 new outputs hence your transaction size is 961 bytes.

with current fee rules you need to pay 961 * 200 = 192,200 satoshi as fee

and this has nothing to do with blockchain.info wallet, it is how bitcoin have always worked. the only difference is the higher fees these days
2415  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if bitcoin crash, could you put your money in another currency to be safe? on: March 08, 2017, 09:46:23 AM
For example, if bitcoin is going to crash and I exchanged it into $1200 Ethereum lets say. And it goes down to $800 USD, will the Ethereum value go down?

crash or in other words price of bitcoin going down doesn't mean bitcoin dying and you should move into an altcoin!

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Could you exchange your bitcoin into another currency to be protected from a crash?

have you even checked the price history of any of these altcoins?
they get dumped a lot and the swings are as big as 100%-500% up and can be as big as 90% drop

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I think Coins like Doge, LTC , USDCOIN all of these are 99.9% stable always in the same price, 0.01% prob that you are very very very unlucky and it drop when you buy but I don't think it will happen.

What do you think ?

LTC has been stable but not by a lot and it certainly is not 99% stable you are making stats up!
and the chances of drop of all these altcoins are 90% and more.
2416  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin was a great experiment. We learnt a lot from it. on: March 08, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
then what are you doing here?!!!

also everything about bitcoin is open source you can use that as your starting point and create whatever you like. whether it is an altcoin with other names and other differences or it is bitcoin from scratch as you suggest!
here is the link: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin

let us see how you handle things. don't forget to update us...
2417  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The ETF situation is a definition of trading=gambling on: March 07, 2017, 10:27:20 AM
yep. this is the plainest gamble of recent times. what i find really weird is so many people having already decided their position and what they're gonna do. whatever happens there's gonna be alot of happy and sad people in a few days.

personally i'd prefer to be riding overall trends if i was trading, not a split second happening.
I agree on what you have said this is just a plain gamble and people are already making up possible moves when an event comes specially on bitcoin. People do really love to put meaning on a certain thing and speaking on trading its really like gambling itself since choices arent still sure.

what are you talking about? not being sure doesn't mean it is a gamble! some things are sure. for example the fact that bitcoin price will rise in the long run. and yes some things you can not predict like whether you will be hit by lightning if you go out of house today but it doesn't mean you are gambling when you go out of the house! and the same thing is true about trading specially trading things such as bitcoin which has a pretty solid history and a very solid market.
2418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH and ETC on: March 07, 2017, 10:18:32 AM

c) Which currency is more popular? having the mainstream?

( Honest questions; don't mean to start a troll. thanks )
I guess the best currency and has a good rate is ETH
usually the price ETH will go up once a year.

there is no "best currency" specially if you are calling it a "currency" because it is not. ethereum is just something that we invest in when it is in a dip to sell on top and make more bitcoin as profit!

and ETH and ETC are the same code only without the DAO rollback. they are both with many other bugs that needs fixing and it has lots of other problems. the only reason why ETC is cheaper is the fact that ethereum whales have been dumping ETC to prevent it from rising.
2419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investing 100K€ in Bitcoin does it really worth? on: March 07, 2017, 10:11:20 AM
If you have that faith, go for it. But building up a trading portfolio with that amount of money may be more realistic

have faith? that doesn't compute with me Smiley
also i have to say, trading is not for everyone. i have tried it and i know for a fact that it is best to stay away if you are not good at it or you can't handle the stress and the time consumption.
besides if you are trading with $500 it is so different with trading with $100,000 or €
Higher risk= higher reward. So it's all dependent on which market you believe in more than the other. I've lost more money in bitcoin than trading but that's just me

then that just proves my point! and why would you suggest others to start trading if you have lost "more money". as i said it is not easy to trade and be successful in it. specially if you are new to this or want to trade altcoins things become hard all of a sudden.
it is best to invest 80 to 90% of your money in bitcoin and trade with 10% or less to learn things and if you were successful then increase that amount.
2420  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: March 07, 2017, 10:04:44 AM
All in? It is not a winning move even the top richest people will not go all in ,putting all your eggs in one basket is a really big risk . Let say you go all in and what if something happens in any wallet or in the bitcoin in the future ,Nothing is 100% sure that you will be a millionaire in bitcoins . The best idea there is having many investments not only bitcoins well then , we have a different stratedgies and thinking so let them decide .

i am always saying the same thing and it is a perfectly good thing to say. but what OP is suggesting is that "young people" who are living with their parents still and get an allowance for example and are not going to starve to death with no money in their pocket can go all in bitcoin.
for them this is a perfectly good strategy in my opinion since bitcoin is rising and it is the money that you are not going to miss.
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