I think Cryptohunters' idea of radical changes to Quark will only serve to damage Quark. Quark algo etc is good as it is. Quark just needs marketing and usage and a community that isn't pulling in 3 different directions.
Very true, it should have some public face as well. I think a catalyst that can give that confidence to quark supporters to represent quark more is our perks where shaquille oneal promotes us in a short video, it's still waiting for that. I think after that we should get behind it and market quark more openly. Vic is the person who has contact big deez, but he seems very busy i'm wondering who contacts them when they need us for the perks? |
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@cryptohunter, just so I know that you know you have all the options on table: pm me and I'll give you full access to Quark Core -> Project Development on quarktalk. Currently there are 2 moderators on that forum: Sub80(he's having some problems at the moment) & undercard(haven't heard from him since last month). I have discussed this with Julie and we both agree that the foundation should be kept as an independent body, not related with quarktalk, however quarktalk can provide the environment to create and build projects which the foundation can choose to support or not. Once again, this is just a reminder that all options are on the table if you really want to do something for Quark: http://quarktalk.cc/forums/project-development.75/Hi, thanks very much i will PM you and certainly take a look on there. For the discussion of upcoming projects until ready to be announced i fully agree you need a dedicated private forum. The steps i think that are vital to qrk are... 1. have a public body of known qrk foundation members (more are free to join once they are established as real supporters) although even the foundation needs a spokesman or chairman. I think we should have coinmama for this since everyone i have spoken too has nothing but great things to say about her work and dedication. The other known core foundation members should also come forward and let's get a qrk leadership and organisation group in place. The community can not get behind projects if they are not fully informed. If we are not to go POB or qrk only IPO or superblock we will need funding and incentives to get big projects off of the ground. This will require ROI projects to be set up and managed by paid project managers who will work for a stake in the project or a % of the cost of the project. There is no longer any point waiting and hoping qrk will be selected for no apparent reason over the other 500 alts to be used as a currency for some large multinational company. Let us rather start to create our own paid services. 2. Once we have this foundation established. Let's create a new thread on here that is managed and moderated by the foundation members. The moderation will be light touch and only constant trolling and insults will be deleted. 3. The ROI projects - If we are really not going to generate a development/services pot of qrk we will need to attract investment. These projects need to be of some note not the usual trash. Let's get the minds of the foundation together and the community and focus on one large project that will bring some excitement and community spirit back to qrk. I mean just having some stable leadership that is working together will be an amazing start. Right now most of the community sees qrk as having no leadership and the foundation appears fragmented and fragile at best and at worst the core just fell right out of the middle. For me there is no point in having a handful of people working away with no funding. We need to get some leadership and get the full community behind them in terms of investing, ideas and marketing. The super wallets that do not want to contribute in any way to qrk will need to be given some incentive to put something back in else leave. You can not have people at this stage that put nothing in but take the vast majority of the gains, whilst others work away for nothing. This is not how it works and you end up with people giving up since they are not rewarded. It is time to get quite radical with qrk if you ask me. I am actually horrified QRKfx has left since he is the only person i really think understood many of qrks major problems could be solved if we made some BIG changes. When i say problems i mean weaknesses vs other coins, not essentially that qrk is broken. I am certain if a strong qrk leadership was set up NOW and put in place, then we could persuade him to get back into qrk and perhaps a few others that have been driven away because of various things. QRK's major weakness is that everything was too secret it needs to become way more open and transparent. The community can not thrive being kept totally in the dark. The foundations job is to put suggestions and arguments to the community and then let us all decide the path to tread. Trust is low here right now, we need to act now to reverse this and reward those working to help qrk. bitcointalk is the lifeblood to any crypto (except maybe the largest market cap coins) Let's get a transparent leadership set up and get a new thread with something real to discuss and work forward to. We have been discussing stuff for weeks and nothing good has come of it. As i see it once we have the foundation in place we have to decide quickly to work towards solving some of our issues. Nothing moves forward if we can't unite and work together. If some of the ideas i and others have put forward are too radical for most at this point let's forget them but we need leadership to unite behind and we need to come up with something to get excited about. I don't believe donations ever work in crypto unless there are superwhales holding HUGE percentages of a coin that are very involved like with doge. However if we came up with an amazing project that could return investments through fees over time i think we could fund this as a community and bring qrk back to the spotlight instead of appearing dead and fragmented. +1 and i agree overal with everything you said, i'm on vacation for a month but will try to check regularly. I think you should be part of the foundation as well. |
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Just wanted to let you know that I will talk to one of the MC2 developers with regard to Proof of Burn tomorrow around this time. I wonīt necessarily focus on Quark as the volume is so low that for people who are buying in it would be an issue but will still discuss it with him.
Any update on this? Yesterday I talked to _ingsoc, the intermediary between tacotime and the guys who are working on this project. I chatted with him about 1 hour and it was pretty interesting, however, they still need some months to get ready for cooperation from what I understand. Some crucial decisions (e.g. with regard to how to distribute liquidity in a fair way) havenīt been taken + he was pretty reserved when it came to talking about his team (he repeatedly said, that he doesnīt want to talk about this at this point). To me thatīs too much secrecy and too much future talking. I will watch the project anyway. If you want to use parts of the concept, please feel free to do so. Btw. maok there is no need for excuses as we are all are free what to do in our lives (thought that were your words). I decided for myself that itīs not worth to put more effort into it and I will certainly not let anyone blame me for NOT wasting more of my own time than I want to, ok? What if the community officially and openly announces on Reddit (bann) and btctalk or elsewhere not to cooperate with kolin anymore and get a fresh new start, would you come back, because he has been causing some peeps to leave, maybe other members will get back as well an get that trust back again. People mostly spread fud because they associate it with kolin so lets get him out and tell max not to cooperate with him since the community has decided. I think this will be a great idea and i personally would love to have you as quarks face//dev/official spokesperson and i'm sure others agree with me Netnox, Mako would you make the bann happen in this case? And with shaqfu perks coming out we will start with a nice promotion to hold on. I am personally for it, but as someone else mentioned we should have more active development (Qfx back would be nice) so we are not just creating a void with nothing to take its place. |
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Well, one good thing about this coin is that it has been massively consolidated.
No more PoW means no new coins being added, no more inflation.
And the fact the price has dropped means many more people, and existing whales, have bought up most existing supplies. This means Quark is prepped for a massive spike when demand increases.
The large holders here just need to be smart and not start dumping right away and when you do don't put massive blocks out there which will scare away new investors.
Quark hit $.24 last time so I think it can hit $2 this time. For me that means a nice vacation. For others, if you're patient, it means a new house or a new lambo. lol.
Cheers!
wow $1 quark would be so awesome, what would cause it? |
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Just wanted to let you know that I will talk to one of the MC2 developers with regard to Proof of Burn tomorrow around this time. I wonīt necessarily focus on Quark as the volume is so low that for people who are buying in it would be an issue but will still discuss it with him.
Any update on this? |
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Nice one to summarise better  |
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Interesting Draft and i'll keep on eye on it.
Do you agree on coins which have devs who are visibly present like giving video interviews in a professional manner, give presentations and basically show and present themselves have a higher chance to succeed? Coindevs like Bitcoin/Litecoin/Ethereum have all devs who people regularly see. This for me as an investor can give more trust. All in all from what i've seen from you, you would make a good dev.
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have no idea why that one person is destroying the community Cause he is protecting his and max assets.Isnt that obvious to everybody ?Why would he spend so much time fighting and trolling if he wouldnt own a large amount of quarks.He is each time attacking when people integrade a solution against the big wallets.Why ? Wait, how would he be protecting his quark assets by fighting and pushing out the best contributors (allegedly)? How is that protecting your investment? And what proof is there that max keiser has any quark left? Wouldn't he have talked about it on his show tjeee past 7+ months? I haven't heard anything so there's a good chance max has sold and moved on. I own little quark but I'm trying to figure out if quark still has big potential or if last year's massive run was a fluke. Cheers! Edit: and what proof is there that he even speaks with. Max let alone works with him? Thx. Vald this is bitcointalk.org (remember) its open season they are trolling you - they made up a "core member group" to then say they "did things" (actually nothing) to then be "offended" when we didn't destroy Quark. its all for nothing they've dumped a million+ and the price has hardly a dent. You can ignore this guy, hes slandering in other threads too. See IXCoin thread. Devcoin is also a good example. Tens of thousands lines of text with 1-2% meaning. hey K1773R i know he gets a little emotional i've read a lot of Vlads writing on here - to answer you Vlad - yes basically they are trolling to drop the price , but not to buy back, they are actually helping us distribute - they either work for "BTC directly" or are employees of and "agency" that works directly for Banks and has total disregard for the US constitution. to be clear they are NOT federal employees (even if they think they are ) they work for large commercial Banks and then by proxy a group of Banks. they are literally the enemy of humanity Vlad. (by proxy) If you are talking about core members than this is the most retarded statement i've ever seen lol, they have done more for quark then you will ever do. |
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I can't think kolin alone is the reason these people left.
People need not pay any attention to what he says if they choose not to.
Let's discuss serious plans regarding qrk.
Who is left anyway?
VIC?
coinmama?
who else?
Someone did mention VIC was involved with the mimicoin fiasco ..... that can't be true can it?
The qrk community seems pretty much down and out.
I want to know where all this fighting takes place? i mean it can't just be the banter and comments on this thread causing dedicated members to leave qrk surely? This type of internet trolling and banter happens on most boards, people should be immune to this type of thing by now. If someone makes comments without being able to validate them with some kind of evidence that can be analysed and reasoned upon by all then it means nothing. The way it is presented really should not be an issue.
With "core" the POB coin - i see qrkfx had put a lot of effort into that. Yes, a few people showed up to say it was crap, doomed, pathetic etc. I notice though nobody really pushed forward any hard evidence or even a firm argument with regards to how it was crap, doomed and pointless. Therefore he should have ignored all of that.
There is no fighting. People move on, because they don't see a future. I can only speak for myself, and how I experience it. I see that that the community is powerless because there is lack of engagement (and capability?) of the developer. There were many many good ideas about the merge mining coin where we put the Quark community at the first place. But one person did not like it. He wanted that HE (I don't need to tell you who the HE is ;-) )was put at the first place...Lot's of greeding behaviour was behind the curtains, and see where it leads...to nowhere... It appears that the developer can only be influenced by the one person which name I will not mention anymore. The last 7 months we build infrastructure for Quark (mobile wallet, lots of promotion, ingame payments for shaq-fu game, Quark universe, Quark planet, and many many more) where coinmama, quarkfx and victor were leading figures. Therefore it makes no sense that they would harm or troll Quark. Think about that before you read another false insinuation of that one person. The "core members" always put Quark at the first place, therefore it makes no sense to put forward hard evidence. There is enough information to set up your own opinion. There is not one who is right or one who is not right. We are all right. Quark is a brilliant coin. But a coin needs more. It also needs dedicated people who build infrastructure. I have no idea why that one person is destroying the community.....but I am afraid you will never read a sensible post out of his fingers.....therefore we can't ask him. +1 kolin is against quarks succes and wants to benefit him self, he doesn't care if quark succeeds. See this link of him where publicly make a topic AGAINST core members who just like silvermetal said have done so much for quark and calls them shills and trolls https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725753.msg8201177#msg8201177 this is something a quark hater would do. Also i have evidence that this guy wanted to pull a scam when you guys see it you would want him out of quark asap. |
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I was working on Quark miners last year and i got to see a genuine effort to make a different coin. it had a new series of algo's brought together unlike anything we seen at the time ! Like what did we have back then ? Scrypt.. Prime coin's algo and not much else really.. x11 or x13 ? a small mod of Quark the father of all these crap clones.. I don' think noobs realize what the code looks like and they can't grasp that when it came out there was no GPU miner for ages ! Quark is a special coin for sure and special coins will be more resilient is my best guess  And the flavor of the day "propped up" sadly i have to admit too LOL Downward trends can still see a coin or two doing not bad while most tank i notice every month.. Some weird reason RDD was hot shit while damn near all coins were sliding down last month ..weird hahah I'd never say "all" but "most" will be going down soon is fair i think. (because of end of month dumping + the momentum it creates) just my observations and remember Spoetnik Loves You ! Interesting comment regarding x coins and their wallet I looked at some code of x11, x13, x15 coins, and I can say this code is often based on bitcoin 0.6.x or similar. It is very hard for me to compile on Windows.
Latest official version of Quark is based on bitcoin 0.8.3.x and can be compiled very easy compiled on Windows. Same for Litecoin 0.8.x.
Newest next version of Quark will be based on bitcoin v0.9.x.x and already now you can compile for Windows at the easiest way.
I am very close to conclude that many x11, x13, x15 coins are improved with many fancy things, but they are based on very old bitcoin code v0.6.x no matter how they artificially risen version number. It means it will be very hard to maintain it or developed it on the right way. Quarks dev respond Thanks for recognising this. The Bitcoin 0.9.x code base is much cleaner and easier to work with as a developer than for example 0.6.x. A lot of changes has gone into "the insides" for Bitcoin 0.9.x and this is not always apparent to end users. This is why my current priority is to upgrade the code base to Bitcoin 0.9.x. Few people seem to recognise that this is a big undertaking, especially with a coin like Quark that has many deviations from the Bitcoin code base. The current code is here: http://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark092It is close to being ready for merging into the main Quark code base. |
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What happened ?
I didn't read the blue text .
Sounds bad.
Hahahaa. Oh shit, digital, that had me rolling. You're not making any new friends here that's for sure. lol. Cheers! got a bounty coming for anyone that can work with style sheets - and jazz it up a bit ! a lot of the Quark investors are complaining of censorship - we don't want an echo chamber but we have to have freedom of expression ! http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkOmega/come and sign up to Quark_Omega 2 members where mad their post was deleted, because recently there has been some sock puppet accounts praising you, probably made by yourself. Also your immature behaviour is not something for people to promote for an investment, it would be nice in 4chan though. As we know you have not been doing quark a favour. It's clear to me you are against members who want to have a say in a decentralised system, but it won't work that way. I would be surprised if people would subscribe, you should call the subreddit crypto politics and conspiracy, because thats what your topics basically are about so would get more subscribers. |
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The Quark protocol is fine right now - if it needs to evolve that will happen.
it seem very robust right now
Who are you to decide anyway? Just like max said himself you don't represent quark  The community and the dev decides and if you don't like that feel free to leave. An application, crypto, brand needs to keep innovating and upgrading to stay in the game, whether it's marketings wise or new features wise. |
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why does gold have any value at all - do you use gold for things?
Gold is a chunk of metal - silver is used in electronics , Quark is a free market crypto, they all hedge against zany Corporate issued pieces of paper.
that's all the marketing you need.
You need to educate more on gold, it is used in a lot of things beside blings, like electronics, microcomputers, space satellites, it's a good conductor and doesn't oxidise much and doesn't discolour. |
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Your "free market" argument every time is so retarded. Go get new devs/marketing peeps involved instead of posting crap 24/7
We certainly need a strong marketing team, which should mainly come from its adopters. Lets get ourselves involved in promotion and lets not send/wait for one man to do a work which we can do ourselves. As for the `new devs` I think their role is a bit overrated. Go and read yesterday's article of chief Bitcoin coder Gavin Andresen: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/527051/the-man-who-really-built-bitcoin/, he concludes with: "After the transaction issue is resolved, the work of looking after its code will increasingly be a job for caretakers, not master builders". Our dev has done his job and implemented security features like protection against double spends attacks by using automatic checkpointing. Our dev is constantly improving the protocol, the latest releases are public to see in my signature. Now is quarkers job and decision whether to use the currency and promote it, or to simply wait for miracles from its dev team or from an supposedly self appointed Quark Face. The most important role of a currency is that of its users which Gavin Andresen describes: "The value of any currency ultimately rests on a collective belief" Which can be seen in our community and we would make an excellent case study in this sense, with some of our old quarkers giving up their work because they lost their belief along the way. So whats wrong, did Quark get attacked ? No. Thats not it, it is simply a matter of belief. Maybe the collapsing prices ? Oh yes thats it :-) This has caused an vicious cycle in which the community is crumbling because most entered Quark for wrong reasons and had huge financially/socially expectations. Quark moves on, true quarkers are free to join the new faucet forum, lets try to build a better/stronger community: http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2dpw71/join_quark_faucet_forum/ The role of the forum is mainly for information, so please add new resources like tutorials and guides here: http://quarktalk.cc/resources/We need definitely some new blood, the fact is that i've been contributing my own way from 7 months ago and to see that things have not helped is very annoying and on the other hand kolin is making new members who come by and want to have a say in quark leave! I've been witnessing two waves of core members coming and leaving where kolin has been against them eventually, one group in december and one now and taking their promising project with them (like bubble up, won't happen for quark anymore). Our dev is only updating the wallet nothing else because he has no time for other features, so in case there will be a promising feature out there, there is no dev to implement it on quark. |
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So kolin what are convincing reasons for a quark holder to stay in quark and what is going to make quark prices to go up?
because of the reasons i've stated over and over again. if you don't believe in Quark get out of crypto - there are others in the free market. Zeta is fully distributed but its also SHA256 Digitalcoin is now floating pretty much in the free market after the Devs dumped its Scrypt however. Prime is CPU only which has kept it pretty well priced as no one could really "corner" that market on distribution. Caps (PoW PoS hybrid ) started out manipulated but confidence collapsed with much growing pains now its been revitalized no single entity has a huge monopoly on it i don't believe. what else..... let me think... FTC has seen a lot of volume you could say a lot of people hold it because it has been constantly mined and dumped (similar to Quarks birth) ( i still think there are better options but its free market you have to admit) Infinitecoin - Mega - World - all been around the pump dump scene to be held by most of the market. the POINT is neutral control if you invest in something that a few people hold (or you can reasonably assume only a few people hold ) YOU will lose - if YOU want to lose , keep doing that . if you want to invest and hedge against probable fiat value loss ( you own local fiat currency losing a lot of purchasing power) invest in non manipulated Crypto. So now quark is not really mineable, wouldn't a pos/pow be more suitable? or implementing a new algorithm? Why don't you get some new devs, quark doesn't have an active dev to implement promising features if there is one, don't count too much on max guevera he won't do more than maintaining the code and cut the crap with neutral control, free market blabla. People want to see marketing, projects, dev activity. You can't just have a wishful thinking attitude. The only marketing project quark has now is shaqfu which comes out in 2015, also quark has a perk where shaq will talk on quark. These are the only things right now, but it's not enough. |
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quarkfx is peter and a very talented guy who contributed a lot to quark and no he is not the peter you mean, the one you mean was another guy an experienced forex trader who wanted to build quark amongst with other guys but were blocked by you and left quark because they couldn't get a hang of the main dev to cooperate with him.
Your lies and constant conspiracies of "they wanted to take over quark because it was a Threat" is stupid and pretty much settled quarks downfall from that moment. You basically took over and i believe YOU felt threatened to lose your own leadership which you have failed miserably to deliver. All i've seen from them was helping to build a legit infrastructure and trying to fix what could be fixed.
Also there is nothing wrong with having multiple developers, they wanted to be a part of the dev because max guevera the main dev did NOT communicate and pretty much disappeared at a crucial time when he was needed the most. Also i couldn't believe you were deciding for max, he stated himself that he is open working with multiple devs.
yeah lets explain that - : the main objective and meme back then was that "hash will be too low and Quark will be attacked" so i can go find all that (but am not going to waste my energy) the fact is Quark is still right here and still the leader, it had a price drop because it ran up to far way too quick, if you can't understand that well what can i say? i can't say anything without insulting the credibility of your intellect, and i don't want to do that because i think you are capable of learning and are capable of understanding these very simple principals. you see its the same reason everyone is losing "wealth" right now (LTC DRK you name it) , because you see all of the market (except a few) has been manipulated, but the problem is.... you see, lets look at the difference..
Quark is being actively "suppressed" so see the opposite effect here , show me another crypto on the market right now that is fully distributed where people are even contesting that there is price suppression. you see if you think hard you will learn... so you have to decide now if it is or isn't true, what i've just said. if you decide its true, what can you take away from that ? if you decide its not true then explain to us all here why? How is quark still the leader? Don't lie so much
https://coinmarketcap.com/^^^^ there is Coin market Cap - just give me the Crypo above Quark that is driven by the free market. Your "free market" argument every time is so retarded. Go get new devs/marketing peeps involved instead of posting crap 24/7 |
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quarkfx is peter and a very talented guy who contributed a lot to quark and no he is not the peter you mean, the one you mean was another guy an experienced forex trader who wanted to build quark amongst with other guys but were blocked by you and left quark because they couldn't get a hang of the main dev to cooperate with him.
Your lies and constant conspiracies of "they wanted to take over quark because it was a Threat" is stupid and pretty much settled quarks downfall from that moment. You basically took over and i believe YOU felt threatened to lose your own leadership which you have failed miserably to deliver. All i've seen from them was helping to build a legit infrastructure and trying to fix what could be fixed.
Also there is nothing wrong with having multiple developers, they wanted to be a part of the dev because max guevera the main dev did NOT communicate and pretty much disappeared at a crucial time when he was needed the most. Also i couldn't believe you were deciding for max, he stated himself that he is open working with multiple devs.
yeah lets explain that - : the main objective and meme back then was that "hash will be too low and Quark will be attacked" so i can go find all that (but am not going to waste my energy) the fact is Quark is still right here and still the leader, it had a price drop because it ran up to far way too quick, if you can't understand that well what can i say? i can't say anything without insulting the credibility of your intellect, and i don't want to do that because i think you are capable of learning and are capable of understanding these very simple principals. you see its the same reason everyone is losing "wealth" right now (LTC DRK you name it) , because you see all of the market (except a few) has been manipulated, but the problem is.... you see, lets look at the difference..
Quark is being actively "suppressed" so see the opposite effect here , show me another crypto on the market right now that is fully distributed where people are even contesting that there is price suppression. you see if you think hard you will learn... so you have to decide now if it is or isn't true, what i've just said. if you decide its true, what can you take away from that ? if you decide its not true then explain to us all here why? How is quark still the leader? Don't lie so much |
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where are VIC, Qrkfx, coinmama and some of the serious people who get things done for QrK?
I have not heard from VIC in a while now and he was the main driving force behind qrk for quite some time. QRKfx has done a lot of hard work recently and really i see his efforts poorly rewarded here. I mean NOBODY has any specific negative points to make that were backed up by any kind of specific reasoning we could analyse together. I just heard a lot of " i don't like the sound of it " kind of remarks that really mean nothing.
Without these kind of people pushing us forward we are going nowhere.
Let's get the qrk foundation set up so we know who they are. We have no real leadership here. Yes, Max has been a little more active which is great but we really need some leadership to get some direction and mid term goals we can all get behind.
Let's not let the thread degenerate in to gifs and animations. This is the signature of dying coins.
Vic stated that he is very busy with his job, but hopefully we will see him back soon. Quarkfx, c4shm3n, y3llowblackbird the guys who contributed a lot to quark i think are supporting more the PoB concept, c4shm3n and quarkfx i believe won't continue to work with quark anymore which quarkfx shortly explained here http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2d5521/proof_of_burn_concept_alpha_draft/Coinmama i think she also agrees with quarkfx concerns, but i'm not sure if she is still with quark. |
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hm thought it was quarkfx design since the reddit banner is his work
no i think Quarkfx is Peter from the original forum the guys that were trying to say they were "Quark developers" - they had to try to take over the Crypto because it was a threat to all the other price manipulated crypto - so they panicked and started to say they were "trying to help" Quark from "low hash" they are rehashing that now and its still not working .... its kind of sad a pathetic really? if Quark fx isn't "Peter" i apologize of course as it would be an insult to call you a "retard." quarkfx is peter and a very talented guy who contributed a lot to quark and no he is not the peter you mean, the one you mean was another guy an experienced forex trader who wanted to build quark amongst with other guys but were blocked by you and left quark because they couldn't get a hang of the main dev to cooperate with him. Your lies and constant conspiracies of "they wanted to take over quark because it was a Threat" is stupid and pretty much settled quarks downfall from that moment. You basically took over and i believe you felt threatened to lose your own leadership which you have failed miserably to deliver. All i've seen from them was helping to build a legit infrastructure and trying to fix what could be fixed. Also there is nothing wrong with having multiple developers, they wanted to be a part of the dev because max guevera the main dev did not communicate and pretty much disappeared at a crucial time when he was needed the most. Also i couldn't believe you were deciding for max, he stated himself that he is open working with multiple devs. |
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