Appreciated.

You keep directly addressing me I'm going to answer. You're an idiot. At least some of the others are actually worth the argument.

I never fucking said that. It's clear this person has no idea what they are doing and so, if you people can stop being hypocrites for two minutes, I berated him, as did others. This also serves the purpose of letting inexperienced traders know what's going on so they can help foil his plan (CrowdWhale isn't an arbitrary name I pulled out of my ass). It's also clear they're trying to manipulate the market. Isn't that illegal in regulated markets? I don't like the environment it creates and said so plainly. You guys want to make it out to be something it isn't. STOP. MOVE THE FUCK ON. This thread isn't about me.

Don't direct statements or questions towards me. I'm going to ignore them. I've had enough of this nonsense.

Gee, I'm sorry for taking it seriously, disagreeing on your point about the validity of technical analysis in higher volume crypto markets, knowing the difference between (poor) manipulation and responsible market making, and for making my living from trading and saying so.

So... so sorry.

Still trying to connect a previous loss with my complaint about the whale to support this weird narrative you have going, I see. Kindly move on.

Inaccurate and uncalled for.

(Pretty funny, though.)

Partially because I give out advice on Twitter, which serves also as promotion, and I'm not going to promote shitcoins. Partially because of the next to no risk of it crashing to zero.

I didn't demand the price do anything. I mocked the whale's ineptitude and encouraged people to defend the trend line. If people want to conflate that with a previous bad trade I made that was no longer even an issue, I guess I can't stop you. If people want to be offended because I jokingly told the whale to go beach himself, I can't stop you. As I said, just drop it and carry on. A couple morons (the two I was directing that at) on BCT aren't a factor I weigh into my trading. I'll be holding it when I think it's going up, and I won't be holding it when I think it's going down. I'm here to make money by trading the coins I feel are worthy and have a future. Sorry if that's offensive to fanboy hobbyists. Can I leave now?

I didn't say I was selling. This conversation is 90% about what trolls have read into or conflated with what I've actually said. It's become a completely inappropriate topic for this thread and I asked a couple times to drop it. Then when I leave you mock that action too? You guys must be reeeaaally bored. Carry on.

Ok, you guys are morons. You read bullshit into something and miss the point because you're too busy trolling. Too many kids and not enough professionalism. I'm happy to take my leave. Enjoy.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY MY TRADE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT? My trade went bad for entirely unrelated reasons. I'm talking about the apparent ineptitude of the whale.

I'm not interested in talking about this anymore. If you're bored and need to troll, have at it. I'll be making money.

By my standards for illiquid crypto markets, I'd say the channel is still intact.

Yes, I tried to tell him, but he's a wrecking ball. Oops, was that a name?


The lack of liquidity in these markets allows for a little painting outside the lines. This one barely nudged out and has done so before. I don't think the present channel is invalidated. It basically hit the bottom of the channel and then went sideways long enough to drift slightly under. Totally permissible in this environment. TA (usually just the most basic) is still useful in higher volume crypto markets, as long as you allow for some wiggle room.

Since I'm nice I'll be the one to tell you you're making a fool of yourself and should probably just shut your hole.

I hadn't thought of that. I'm getting to the point where it's difficult for me to enter and exit fully, but I'm not to the size where I'd need a huge wall to avoid a margin call. I also find it difficult to imagine people using margin when they have hundreds of BTC. I'll have to think about that and watch to see if there are sudden market orders when the walls disappear. I don't remember any, but I wasn't looking for them.

There's also a chance he's a big part of the support at 335k and is buying small batches while pushing down. I would expect him to split his orders more effectively to conceal them, though.

Anyway, whatever. I had no idea so many people were going to respond to me bitching about the bear whale. I'd prefer to just drop the subject.

Anyway, a market maker needs to paint the tape in such a way that traders can receive his (or her) signals and do his work for him. Why fight to break a clear support line when you can send out the right signals and let traders do the work for you?

Coming from a guy who just posted FUD and said he was out, I find this hypocritical at best.


I assumed he was joking saying "go beach yourself" was getting nasty. Like if I called him a big old meanie or something. I have no intention of getting nasty.


You're absolutely correct. I didn't want to make an excuse for my bad trade, but I do have one and it involves emotions and substances not related to crypto or trading. In any case, I don't normally use margin and lost the panic mechanism years ago. My trade went bad BEFORE he started doing the things I feel are harmful. I'm not concerned about the dump to 321, which I would normally have predicted. I'm concerned about the clumsy shifting of walls and the obvious attempts to break or buy below the trend line, which I think would destroy confidence in the market for a good while.

None of this matters, because I sincerely doubt he will succeed. 335, 320, or 300 will hold.

Oh look, you moved your wall from 430 to 400. Hold on while I go panic dump. :p

What's next, 380 again? You're an idiot.


Absolutely. I can get nastier too.

All the more reason for me to go somewhere that matches my trading style better. Any market maker worth his salt should be defending that trend line.

Whoever you are, and I know you're in here, you SUCK at being a whale. Go beach yourself.

I really don't understand this thinking. If it breaks the trend line convincingly you don't WANT to buy. It makes no sense to me to not buy at the trendline, but to buy just below it. There's a REASON 335k is holding time and time again. It's the bottom of the ascending channel. If people want it to go up they should be defending it aggressively, not trying to break it for a cheaper price.