My phone started to buzz. A new discussion on discord was started by Robin Linus demanding his 1/3 of the funds.


symphonyToday at 4:49 PM
Robin Linus is behind all this FUD simply because the team is not honoring their agreement with 1/3 of the funds to be managed by Robin for an independent blockchain research

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Glenn ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Today at 4:49 PM
So you are Robin Linus?

symphonyToday at 4:50 PM
gotcha :wink:

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Glenn ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Today at 4:50 PM
@RichyBC What do you want to do here?

symphonyToday at 4:51 PM
I want the agreement to be fulfilled as they  promised 6 months ago.

SymphonysToday at 4:51 PM
Hello brother

symphonyToday at 4:51 PM
1/3 of the funds should be assigned to a separate board in order to commit an independent blockchain research

SymphonysToday at 4:51 PM
This is not the way
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Glenn ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Today at 4:51 PM
Please provide some proof of who you are. If you are Robin Linus, please note that your main account has not been banned.

RichyBCToday at 4:52 PM
Symphony joined today, immediately started spreading non-factual complains (again) and is trying to impersonate a mod.

symphonyToday at 4:52 PM
Being the founder of this project, I don't think it is necessary for a PR stunt to prove myself being Robin Linus
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Glenn ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Today at 4:52 PM
Good for you.

RichyBCToday at 4:53 PM
I'd say ban to any user who just joins to FUD. They are not real users of course.

symphonyToday at 4:53 PM
hi Richy! :heart:
yea sure Richy! I am not a real user. I am a zombie :wink:
i am a dead man walking on discord :muscle:
GlennToday at 4:54 PM
http://www.schizophrenia.com/help/Schizanon.html

symphonyToday at 4:55 PM
I am doing all this because they are not fulfilling their signed agreement that 1/3 of the remaining funds to be assigned to a separate blockchain research. Moreover, I already started as promised a UTXO blockchain development from scratch on my github account. That research for the moment is named TreeCoin

LTD | SushiPool.comToday at 4:55 PM
Can we just forward all the FUD into their on channel, thus creating an echo-chamber of pure lies :thinking:

GlennToday at 4:55 PM
That's the plan I think

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:55 PM
@symphony I think you need to seek professional help. You're spending a lot of time on creating new accounts and such.  Time which could be used wisely, like creating apps or websites or other stuff

symphonyToday at 4:55 PM
I don't get why @Glenn you hate me so much?

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:56 PM
because you already got 3 bans today

SymphonysToday at 4:56 PM
Yeah @Glenn wtf dude

GlennToday at 4:56 PM
I'm just a bad person.

symphonyToday at 4:56 PM
none of these couldn't be done without the ICO. I am the person who invited Philipp and all others to join the project. Nimiq without me couldn't been born.

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:57 PM
The only thing Robin needed funds for is to buy more weed and cocaine

symphonyToday at 4:57 PM
No. I am sober for more than 6 months
I just want to save the project from turning into a scam

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:57 PM
So it wasn't just weed

SymphonysToday at 4:57 PM
No I'm not

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:57 PM
But also cocaine
Thanks for confirming @symphony

SymphonysToday at 4:58 PM
Tbh all I really like doing is reading

symphonyToday at 4:58 PM
The project is going into a wrong direction. My only hope is to save the project from am imminent self-destruction

LTD | SushiPool.comToday at 4:58 PM
Can we please drain the swamp, current levels of FUD are over 9000 :grin:

SymphonysToday at 4:58 PM
No, I'm holding the self destruct button
I am the swamp

symphonyToday at 4:59 PM
@LTD | SushiPool.com i always discussed with the "team nimiq" to pay community developers and they always refused that. This is main reason why most of the developers and community already left.

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:59 PM
:joy:

symphonyToday at 5:03 PM
The thing is that the project is not moving forward into a good direction

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 5:03 PM
I think it does

symphonyToday at 5:03 PM
Slow progress had been done in the last 8 months since I moved

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 5:03 PM
They have done a lot while you're we're smoking pot and powdering your nose @symphony

SymphonysToday at 5:03 PM
But I have no evidence to back my claim

symphonyToday at 5:04 PM
no, there hasn't been much progress achieved since the time i moved

SymphonysToday at 5:04 PM
And I've made no progress :joy:

LTD | SushiPool.comToday at 5:05 PM
It’s a waste of time to even enter in any discussion when we don’t know who’s really behind @symphony, could be a troll for all we know.

symphonyToday at 5:06 PM
I said above, that it was always me, Robin Linus

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 5:06 PM
@symphony can you please do a video chat with me to confirm it?

GlennToday at 5:07 PM
https://tenor.com/view/cheese-smile-camera-video-ahh-gif-5502149

RichyBCToday at 5:07 PM
@symphony if you are indeed Robin, why don't you use your usual account?

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 5:07 PM
@Glenn i expected a rick roll :joy:

RichyBCToday at 5:07 PM
For me this is another user just impersonating a moderator.

symphonyToday at 5:07 PM
to annoy you Richy and others :heart:

SymphonysToday at 5:08 PM
Annnnnd

LTD | SushiPool.comToday at 5:08 PM
@RichyBC bring the ban hammer?

RichyBCToday at 5:08 PM
He claims to be a zombie
He is not. At least not yet.

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 5:12 PM
ahh much better, thanks @RichyBC

RichyBCToday at 5:20 PM
Thanks. Is an idea I got from another project and that could be useful.
I accept suggestions and critics from other users. Maybe is a good idea, maybe is not. Right now is just a test :smiley:

ThomasToday at 5:31 PM
I think it would be better to ignor comments regarding Robin in general. It is just a source of new fud. And this is not fair towards Robin personally.

GlennToday at 5:33 PM
Agreed

Robin 🎭Today at 5:38 PM
this is going out of control https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952324.2000

SymphonysToday at 5:43 PM
Only thing going out of control is their minds Welcome, symphony. We were expecting you ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Woops

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Glenn ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Today at 5:44 PM
ha terrible copy and paste fail
brilliant

SymphonysToday at 5:44 PM
I'm so rekt
Goddammit so hard to copy pasta discord messages on a phone

Robin 🎭Today at 5:45 PM
I miss this Robin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU2qfK7SD_M

@norma the project is dead just take it and move on. Norma is just a german guy friend with two of the developers (probably a sockpuppet account of Marvin as he knows perfectly the code. Also Robin Linus questioned the account of norma) and always he is trying to bring their statements as facts and answers. Their statements are shit. They never explained where and what is the square foot size of the land. Initially, they claimed that the investment is a property (mansion) and then they switched their story with a land investment. Moreover, it is obviously from ruslanburg user that the Nimiq campus is built in the SkyLoft property and not in a separate land as they claimed. So, SkyLoft, Elion Chin is laundering Nimiq Foundation money.

I joined wake up. The project is definitely doing money laundering through Elion Chin SkyLoft resort in Costa Rica.

Mining is 10 times slower than desktop or terminal mining. To mine decently you need to install software. However, any kind of mining is totally unprofitable and even electricity is more expensive than mining.


All these facts are shown, were proved and confirmed initially by whistleblower or insiders

although it is night here in CA and I will go soon to sleep, you should not be afraid. All our claims were backed after the big scandal with pothead Robin. Here is a list of our accusations turned into confirmed.

1. ICO Money laundering by paying very high salaries. There is no coincidence they have wages of over $250k  per year.
2. Fake Trading Bot confirmed during AMA
3. Robin Drug Abuse of Cannabis. I really believe it is not cannabis but Cocaine.
4. 1.1 million dollar investment is in Costa Rica and the SkyLoft resort villa
5. Robin scam-exit the project willing to get a large chunk of money. From an insider, we know that the fight over the money it is still on-going. Robin Linus wants 1/3 of the funds and he won't stop fighting for it. I am just utterly disappointed to see that he stopped communicating with us as he is negotiating his terms with Philipp.
6. The project was hijacked from Robin and turned into an unprofitable scam in order to launder the ico money.
7. Most of the community left the project. Moreover, developers started to leave the project. Neil from nimbet left the project two days ago. Mining pools closed their operations
8. Sushi pool and most probably SkyPool are both unprofitable and they will shut down their pools soon.
9. ICO investors lost -99% of the money.
10. The fact that Robin was not officially removed from the foundation board. In the medium article, they claimed they removed Robin from the foundation, while they can not do this.

The only fact which was not proven by now is the imminent bankruptcy of the project. Our insider information reveals that the team's finances are worst than they declare with less than 7 million dollars available.

haha, sure wekkel the scamiq troller. It is obvious that wekkel and you have financial interests to shill this scam coin. All this time all my claims are proved with facts and proofs. Like the proof, I posted one hour ago that explains all the "rumors" with the 1.1 million dollar villa that their best lie they cam was: "It is a land investment in Costa Rica". Besides the 1.1 million dollar investment, I've got inside information that multiple team members recently acquired multiple private estates worldwide  

An anonymous user from Discord by name ruslanburg discovered something interesting about the shady operations of nimiq investments which prove that nimiq is a scam. Ruslangburg was eventually banned and all his messages deleted immediately. He asked about the 1.1 million dollar investment in Costa Rica by nimiq. Then he uncovered three unknown facts to most of us and asked questions.

0. SkyLoft Resort owns the Villa we saw and see in the most of the nimiq vlogs.

http://www.skyloftcostarica.com/#content

1. Nimiq "headquarter" is at the moment hosted technically according to "Team Nimiq" shitty transparency reports hosted by paying rent to SkyLoft Costa Rica (according to AMA). They only mentioned that they spent over 1.1 million dollar into buying new land for building a Nimiq campus which is composed of "tents and toilets".
2. According to SkyLoft website http://www.skyloftcostarica.com/  


according to the website

3. So, it means Nimiq is a tenant at SkyLoft Resort occupying the entire space
4. They justified that they invested 1.1 million from the ICO into buying land in Costa Rica from somebody that is not a team member.
5. According to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VetRzl_qtaQ Robin is on-site on the land explaining the Nerd Campus to be built with tents and toilets and a supervision container. It is obvious that the tents and the land is annexed to the SkyLoft villa owned by Elion Chin.

Minute 1:12

It is clearly in the video that Robin is presenting the new NIMIQ CAMPUS inside the SkyLoft campus annexed to SKYLOFT Mansion. It is also obvious that they were planning to do a construction undergoing namely to build a new mansion because a building foundation is not necessary for tents + toilets + supervision container.

Moreover at 1:30 we can see the entire surface of the Costa Rican new land investment worth 1.1 million dollars to be less than 250 square meters which are usually probably 1 thousand dollars



Where is the 1.1 million dollar LAND they claimed they bought in  Costa Rica to extend the Campus?

6. Moreover, a team member posted on Reddit using the nickname "bombardi" a photo with one of the tents they built and claimed that there are 3 of these tents built for the Nimiq Campus.


So it means the 250 square meters and 3 of these tents cost them 1.1 million dollars. According to the criminal law, this is called Money laundering through Elion Chin Real Estate company and SkyLoft resort

An anonymous user from Discord by name ruslanburg discovered something interesting about the shady operations of nimiq investments which prove that nimiq is a scam. Ruslangburg was eventually banned and all his messages deleted immediately. He asked about the 1.1 million dollar investment in Costa Rica by nimiq. Then he uncovered three unknown facts to most of us and asked questions.

0. SkyLoft Resort owns the Villa we saw and see in the most of the nimiq vlogs.

http://www.skyloftcostarica.com/#content

1. Nimiq "headquarter" is at the moment hosted technically according to "Team Nimiq" shitty transparency reports hosted by paying rent to SkyLoft Costa Rica (according to AMA). They only mentioned that they spent over 1.1 million dollar into buying new land for building a Nimiq campus which is composed of "tents and toilets".
2. According to SkyLoft website http://www.skyloftcostarica.com/  


according to the website

3. So, it means Nimiq is a tenant at SkyLoft Resort occupying the entire space
4. They justified that they invested 1.1 million from the ICO into buying land in Costa Rica from somebody that is not a team member.
5. According to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VetRzl_qtaQ Robin is on-site on the land explaining the Nerd Campus to be built with tents and toilets and a supervision container. It is obvious that the tents and the land is annexed to the SkyLoft villa owned by Elion Chin.

Minute 1:12

It is clearly in the video that Robin is presenting the new NIMIQ CAMPUS inside the SkyLoft campus annexed to SKYLOFT Mansion. It is also obvious that they were planning to do a construction undergoing namely to build a new mansion because a building foundation is not necessary for tents + toilets + supervision container.

Moreover at 1:30 we can see the entire surface of the Costa Rican new land investment worth 1.1 million dollars to be less than 250 square meters which are usually probably 1 thousand dollars



Where is the 1.1 million dollar LAND they claimed they bought in  Costa Rica to extend the Campus?

6. Moreover, a team member posted on Reddit using the nickname "bombardi" a photo with one of the tents they built and claimed that there are 3 of these tents built for the Nimiq Campus.


So it means the 250 square meters and 3 of these tents cost them 1.1 million dollars. According to the criminal law, this is called Money laundering through Elion Chin Real Estate company and SkyLoft resort

hi Scamiq!  I am just trying to dig and uncover all the shit they are hiding. Definitely, Team Scam Nimiq is not honest with the public and ICO investors who simply lost all their confidence a trust. Scam Nimiq was turned into a con art scam coin. It is so strange that they tell us that Robin was not banned, but we never heard from him again 3 days ago when he suddenly stopped to unveil the truth. Personally, I also lost confidence into Robin because he looks he is also interested in his own gain into this game with battling with Team Scami Nimiq and not communicating with us. I can't believe into a guy that he started to uncover the real truth and suddenly he disappeared into the abyss. I also want an ICO refund at least at the half of the initial ICO price.

Not only ICO investors and investors lost their confidence into this scam but also community members who left the project including Neil from nimbet, LTD is very close to close his sushi pool due to high expenses and unprofitability for such long time and many many other people. The coin is at a dead end and the scam will come to the surface.

Robin Linus (the founder of the project) was banned on Reddit, Telegram, and Discord. Robin decided to do an announcement on discord proving some of our facts from Bitcointalk, but he was immediately censored and all his messages from discord were quickly removed.




LE. This conversation was not verified 100%

People discovered the lies behind Nimiq and started to complain about their great tech. Everyone gets an instant ban after asking few simple questions.

BubsToday at 4:09 PM
I always figured that Chugwig has 10 million NIM and is trying to pump up the price here to stem his losses :grinning:

tony.philippToday at 4:12 PM
everybody has its own interests to pump and dump

BubsToday at 4:13 PM
I'm not necessarily a FUD spreader, but then I did use about $900 in cloud computing credits to mine about what is now $20 worth of NIM... so I might still be a bit bitter about that :slight_smile:

tony.philippToday at 4:13 PM
wow
how much nims did you mine Bubs with $900 of cloud computing credits ?
3 M ?

BubsToday at 4:14 PM
I had about 20,000 at one point. The difficulty was harder earlier on.
I probably wasted my first $100 trying to use the web miner, until I realized that the web miner sucked and the node.js miner worked 10 times better

tony.philippToday at 4:19 PM
yea the webminer it's a scam demo

BubsToday at 4:19 PM
But, hey, at least I didn't fund the ICO. If this project fails, those people are feel like they paid for a Costa Rican vacation for the dev team. With 95% losses, they might already feel that way.

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:19 PM
@tony.philipp scam? How so? They never advertised it. It's more a tech demo

tony.philippToday at 4:20 PM
it is still their only USP

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:20 PM
Nope
https://github.com/nimiq/woocommerce-gateway-nimiq

tony.philippToday at 4:20 PM
bitcoin and eth has already woocommerce integration

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:20 PM
Get your fact's straight before fudding.
So?

Nimiq != BTC != ETH
Complete diff chain

tony.philippToday at 4:21 PM
i don't want to sound like a fud
but nimiq blockchain is inferior to Bitcoin blockchain which is inferior to Eth blockchain

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:22 PM
Prove it\

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:22 PM
Last warning, come with real evidence

tony.philippToday at 4:23 PM
i will tell you why nimiq blockchain is inferior
1) Nimiq blockchain size is 200 kb, Bitcoin size is 1 mb
2) Nimiq is running in a virtualized sandbox javascript, like Bitcoin is writtein C

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:23 PM
1) This can always be changed - again do your research

tony.philippToday at 4:23 PM
so it means Nimiq is at least 5-10x slower than Bitcoin native C implementation

BubsToday at 4:23 PM
Yeah, that's just an opinion.... unless you are valuing the Blockchain by actual USD values.

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:23 PM
2) Nimiq runs wasm, which is basically the same.

tony.philippToday at 4:23 PM
NO

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:23 PM
2a) miner is written in C

tony.philippToday at 4:23 PM
wasm is about 20-50x slower than C
this is why mining in browser is pointless!

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:24 PM
Mining in browser is pointless yes

tony.philippToday at 4:24 PM
brantle, are your miners mining in browser?

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:24 PM
We all know that

tony.philippToday at 4:24 PM
no, you are not mining in browser
as mining in browser is pointless, same is the consensus in node.js

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:24 PM
But they don't advertise with it

tony.philippToday at 4:24 PM
the conseusus is not efficient

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:24 PM
Where did you see that?

tony.philippToday at 4:24 PM
because it is not native
brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:24 PM

We're talking miners != wallet
tony.philippToday at 4:25 PM
miners, consensus, network all are node.js which means they are slower
that's why you can support more than 5000 miners per server

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:25 PM
So

tony.philippToday at 4:25 PM
while a bitcoin pool supports 50k per server

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:25 PM
With BTC you need to trust a 3rd party for webaccess

BubsToday at 4:25 PM
Nimiq was kinda advertised as "Blockchain fully in the browser" early on.

tony.philippToday at 4:25 PM
you don't. They can do SPV
to validate that a transaction is included in the blockchain

BubsToday at 4:26 PM
So the fact that browser mining sucks is a black eye for them.

tony.philippToday at 4:26 PM
it takes < 2 mb to download all the hashes and validate a transaction is included in the blockchain

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:26 PM
Did you reed about nimiq?

tony.philippToday at 4:26 PM
that's just not true that you need to download the entire blockchain
i do,

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:26 PM
We have nano consensus
Which is the same

tony.philippToday at 4:26 PM
SPV blockchain is almost the same
to validate a transaction
and satoshi did in 2009

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:26 PM
So?
Their papers are open, everyone is free to implement and use it
I see your also spreading false information in other channels. Last warning

tony.philippToday at 4:28 PM
i don't spread false information
i only said that this great and unique tech already exists in bitcoin

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:29 PM
Again, everyone is free to use the papers from BTC to make their own implementation

BubsToday at 4:30 PM
Yeah, my latest complaint was the salaries that the Nimiq developers were getting. That's not FUD, the Nimiq team didn't even bother disputing the numbers thrown out there on Reddit by a former disgruntled team member.

tony.philippToday at 4:30 PM
Bubs you should shut up otherwise they will ban you

brantje | SushiPool.comToday at 4:31 PM
@Bubs That's because it's illegal in Germany (and possibly CR too) to give salary information about an individual
And due they have single man departments, it's also not possible to do it on department level

tony.philippToday at 4:31 PM
yeah sure

hello scamiqers,

As I posted yesterday, an insider told us that sushi pool will get closed as well. After Neil from nimbet.cc posted that he is totally unprofitable and expresses his willingness to shut down his operations with nimiq and just close the development with nimiq, today we got a short whistleblow from LTD the CEO of sushipool (2nd largest pool of nimiq) confirming 3 things

1. Mining is unprofitable. So, stay the fuck out of mining this scam, unless you want to lose money
2. Sushipool and probably SkyPool are unprofitable.
3. Sushipool will get closed soon due to expensive infrastructure costs and unscalability of nimiq mining.

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:19 PM
my questions are if it is profitable to start a mining pool
because i have seen other pools closing down their pools

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:20 PM
Not profitable atm
We can set you a pool if you have the servers ready for a fee

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:20 PM
thank you so much
i would like to try it by myself
i saw there is some tutorial

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:22 PM
Ok sure
You need Linux experience tho

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:22 PM
i work on mac
so it is quite the same
1) SkyPool
and secondly the unprofitability of the pools
the thing is that i don't want to go much into nim because of the factors

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:25 PM
Then this is not the business for you

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:25 PM
ah ok

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:25 PM
You just answer your question, it’s hard  as you mentioned

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:26 PM
i gotcha
and if I go into opening a pool for nim
how much money should I invest into it?
like how much money did you invest into sushi pool

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:40 PM
I can’t discuss that information, but what I can say is that our fee is 500K NIM
Server cost could be under $100 depending on the scale

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:43 PM
it is quite expensive
i was thinking it is quite easy being in javascript
but, it looks the opposite being quite expensive and hard to create and mantain

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:44 PM
Yep, but still give it a try

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:45 PM
another question, any idea if NIMIQ will be able to cover my expenses at least for the first few months running a new pool

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:46 PM
Don't think so, might have to look at it as an investment

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:46 PM
yeah, but I don't think running a pool is necessary an investment, it benefit the project to make it more decentralized

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:47 PM
true but no pool will burn cash forever, this is why they are shutting down

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:48 PM
i guess skypool is profitabile though. Isn't it?

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:48 PM
who really knows
they (SkyPool) ask for funding so they might not be

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:49 PM
oh really
i can't imagine why they don't fund pools
it looks as a bad idea to run a pool on nim

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:50 PM
It's a terrible idea atm, maybe it will improve later

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:51 PM
yea it is terrible
i guess you spend at least a couple of thousands of dollars per month to cover all the expenses

LTD | SushiPool.comYesterday at 11:52 PM
but again if you wan't us to get your pool online you can let me know

arthur.samuelYesterday at 11:52 PM
good to know

conversation online at https://textuploader.com/1am7f

PROOF OF FAKE VOLUME. AT LEAST 10x maybe 50x fake volume

According to https://nimiq.mopsus.com/accounts

HitBTC Cold 214,506,638 NIM   
TradeSatoshi 36,140,193 NIM
HitBTC Hot  27,553,154 NIM   Basic

Other exchanges are jokers

HitBTC + Tradesatoshi =  278,199,985

HitBTC + Tradesatoshi total value in USD (*0.000665) = $185002

So, all the holdings are worth $185,002

Impossible to have a $90,000 volume. It means half of the money is moved in these exchanges in the last 24 hours. Totally impossible. Usually, less than 1/100 is moved in exchanges. What about the $500K fake volume form 2 days ago, it means all the people moved to do trading all their funds three times. This shitcoin is totally fake, deceiving real people to invest their hard money into horseshit.

Scan NIMIQ raised 12 million dollars and they didn't give 1 cent to any developer. Every fucking developer worked for free!!! Everything was done for free by the community managers and community developers in order for Elion Chin, Richy and Philipp to steal all the ICO funds for themselves.



Proof

The full conversation of Neil Blowing the Whistle is below or here https://pastebin.com/zMDVm0Jx

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 1:50 AM
Hey
I'm a dev and just completely re-wrote the pool system because the original had a single point of failure and no scalability. Nimiq refused to help with this and so far have approved NO funding of any sort, other than what serve's them as a team
Please keep this private, just thought you should know
they also in turmoil at the moment because the founded brought to the public's attention that Nimiq cannot scale and is liable to the same short comings as BTC's horrendous transaction times
Oh which, I am in agreeance with, but it spoils the 'Nimiq' party and all the money they're spending

moneroBoyToday at 1:55 AM
hi
thank you so much for information
i am terrible to hear that nimiq is such a shitcoin
and that they keep all the money for themselves
I was also really interested to help them to integrate anonymous options like coinjoin or other kind of private transactions
i am really disappointed to see that they are not interested to fund community projects

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 1:59 AM
well the team are just a bunch of educated people who managed to get a hefty ICO investment, which to their own founders admittance, has lead to become careless with the meaning of what money is
hence how they've burned over $4M already and Nimiq is still no closer to being what it intended to be
No business sense people

moneroBoyToday at 2:00 AM
i understand that they got a lot of money from ICO investors

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:00 AM
and from the code I've seen and the approach of the pool server, not particulary good coders eitther
yes and all are virtually down 95%

moneroBoyToday at 2:01 AM
i saw that the ICO investors lost a lot of money
what other projects did you build until now

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:01 AM
its a joke and given the work I had to put into sorting their pool fuckup out and they consider it not even needed, they have lost all my respect

moneroBoyToday at 2:02 AM
ah, deeply sorry

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:02 AM
i've spoken to many of them and most are straight up politicians
some are quite ignorant

moneroBoyToday at 2:02 AM
what do you have in mind to value your work

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:02 AM
Pascal is ok, but he's only 1 of many
not sure I follow?

moneroBoyToday at 2:03 AM
i feel so sorry,
you worked so much

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:03 AM
oh it ain't your problem

moneroBoyToday at 2:03 AM
and they don't even care about their developers

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:03 AM
I feel more sorry for those who stumped up a lot of cash

moneroBoyToday at 2:03 AM
probably they are just interested to wash all the money for themselves
keep it all for themselves

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:04 AM
and given that crypto has been in the dumps for last 6 months, any other business would of trimmed the fat, cut expenses
not them, lol

moneroBoyToday at 2:04 AM
yeah, why did you not public that they are treating you so bad ?

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:04 AM
well if Nimiq works or fail's, they've still had a decent ride and exposure to a lot of money
oh its common knowledge what my opinion is
they just choose to ignore
or make out they never knew, usual bollox
lol
so, take their 'apparent' interest with a 'pinch of salt' lol

moneroBoyToday at 2:06 AM
i am really sorry. Thanks for sharing me to be aware of these "scammers". They look and sound like real scammers

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:06 AM
all they wanna do is keep 'their' dream alive and the founder of Nimiq wanted to let the public know what they've been up to
They are not scammers like the usual PoS crowd
I'm sure they have the best of intentions, but with no business savvy and a lack of understanding about why crypto cannot be mainstream yet, which such a high tx time / low tps throughput

moneroBoyToday at 2:08 AM
my general opinion is that

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:08 AM
shame, really is

moneroBoyToday at 2:08 AM
they got a lot of ICO money
and they just want to keep it for themselves
knowing from months the project will die
and is a dead end project

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:10 AM
well theirs no doubt that given the current climate and crypto not being 'ready', the money will run out and it'll be another failed endeavour
but they'll of had some interesting work and a nice time in the process, lol

moneroBoyToday at 2:11 AM
do you know anything about their fight with robin?

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:11 AM
yes
he said they been spending money like water and that the current implementation was doomed to fail, due to being another BTC in the making
he said he needs money to make a new Nimiq, they shit their pants and it all went tit's up
i mean, Nimiq is currently worth shit anyways, but if they did as he asked, it would be game over
plus they'd have to relinquish 'said' funds

moneroBoyToday at 2:13 AM
this is exactly what i have understood

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:13 AM
like killing the 'golden goose'

moneroBoyToday at 2:13 AM
that he was working on his new blockchain called TreeCoin

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:13 AM
well any serial blockchain is doomed to fail, cannot scale
he know's this
maybe never realised it at first
but i could see it a mile off, when you get past the 'nimiq is a simple browser blockchain'

moneroBoyToday at 2:14 AM
nimiq was designed to be a joker blockchain

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:15 AM
yes, but still a serial blockchain, which the same limitations that makes BTC horrible for instant payment protocol
well I haven't been in it that long, but I ain't impressed with what I've seen so far, nor how the 'team' operate

moneroBoyToday at 2:15 AM
interesting
do you have any idea if they pay community managers/shillers to ban and shill their stuff

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:18 AM
don't know
but i know if the recent AMA they lied about not removing reddit posts

moneroBoyToday at 2:18 AM
for me it looks they pay a lot of community managers to ban people and manage the discussions

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:18 AM
in the discord rooms

moneroBoyToday at 2:19 AM
also robin linus talked about thing

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:19 AM
well at the moment, nimiq has had some bad press

moneroBoyToday at 2:19 AM
of them having fake accounts

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:19 AM
yes he's the only honest one among them

moneroBoyToday at 2:19 AM
indeed
i also believe he is the only honest person among them
I am just glad that they can not remove him
and he will fight for the project
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:20 AM
and they tried to use the AMA to get people on side so they can carry on their party
what a load of bollox

moneroBoyToday at 2:21 AM
yes they are transforming the entire project into a party
to get the funds
and after 1 year or son to write in a medium
"Sorry guys, we need to close the party"

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:21 AM
i've seen the private dev chat room and their after party shit
long as they can continue till sll the money has gone, they don't care
then they'll move onto the next project

moneroBoyToday at 2:22 AM
this is exactly like what most people believe
also Robin

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:22 AM
and come out smelling of roses no doubt
its the way of the world

moneroBoyToday at 2:23 AM
told the same thing that the are just feasting a big party with the ICO investors
poor and dumb investors who trusted these ppl

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:24 AM
ICO investors? i doubt that, they've all but shit on their money lol

moneroBoyToday at 2:24 AM
no , with the ICO investors' money
sorry for my mistake
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:25 AM
ah yea, well there's still plenty in the kitty for them, lol

moneroBoyToday at 2:25 AM
do you have any idea if sushi LTD or sander gets paid or other devs?

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:25 AM
not by nimiq

moneroBoyToday at 2:26 AM
I am feeling so badly for him
he could receive a lot of money from them
at least a couple hundrends of thousands of dollars for all his work
also yours

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:26 AM
not if you're 'not' their gang

moneroBoyToday at 2:26 AM
I don't even get it why he is not closing his pool
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:27 AM
its his investment,

moneroBoyToday at 2:27 AM
i think he is trying to save his investment

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:27 AM
yes i would too

moneroBoyToday at 2:27 AM
but I am really disappointed that they didn't even get a buck from them
like they spend over $300k at least per month

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:27 AM
exactly

moneroBoyToday at 2:28 AM
and he is not getting a cent
moreover, i also believe Robin was right
that they have only 7 millions left

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:28 AM
don't doubt it

moneroBoyToday at 2:28 AM
also the villa is bought from Elion Chin
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:28 AM
yea

moneroBoyToday at 2:29 AM
this is really bad
really damn bad

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:29 AM
well the public din't know 'how' bad till robin let the cat out the bag

moneroBoyToday at 2:29 AM
yea, this is why they lie
like the cannabis addiction
like they look like most of them are smoking weed daily
including Richy, Philipp and Elion at least

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:30 AM
yes, very convienient i thought
good scape-goat story

moneroBoyToday at 2:31 AM
i am really upset now
they hide all this
and in the same time are super shady about everything
like organisation, structure, community, developers, money
everything

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:32 AM
shame innit

moneroBoyToday at 2:34 AM
i guess most of this information is known in the party's private groups on discord

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:35 AM
nimiq team perhaps

moneroBoyToday at 2:35 AM
probably
the project for me looks it was turned 180 degree
into a scam project
to keep all the money for themselves and smoking weed' all the time

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:37 AM
who know's
not their fault crypto has shit out
but to keep spending as they do in the current climate is irresponsible
and to not realise Nimiq cannot be what it set out to be in its current form is just plain ignorance

moneroBoyToday at 2:38 AM
yup
the thing is that they promised to the world to become a payment protocol, but it won't be ever
another failure will be the early release of "Nimiq 2.0"
which will be exactly the same

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:38 AM
well when it steps up to the volume etc. needed, it'll fallover just their pool system did
like, what's the meantime before a tx is valid and available on BTC
3hrs
6hrs
more?

moneroBoyToday at 2:39 AM
it needs at least 10 confirmations

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:39 AM
oh yea, I wanna buy a car... sorry we cannot except crypto, it takes as long as a cheque to clear

moneroBoyToday at 2:40 AM
usually 3 hours

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:40 AM
stupid

moneroBoyToday at 2:40 AM
also imagine of SkyPool centralization

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:40 AM
when volume is low, etc.... is reasonable

moneroBoyToday at 2:40 AM
they own 75% of hash rate

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:40 AM
yea, china is part of that apparently

moneroBoyToday at 2:40 AM
are they mining with GPU rigs?
because i believe so

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:41 AM
don't know

moneroBoyToday at 2:41 AM
like in monero
nobody knew, once they started to sell gpu rigs

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:41 AM
lots of hashrate, regardless

moneroBoyToday at 2:42 AM
really bad
their real volume per day is like 3-4,000 usd
rest of it it is just fake on LATOKEN

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:43 AM
well no one really know's of NIM in the crypto world and miners got in because it was more profitiable that GPU / ETH etc.
and you could do it with CPU
but that's only a short term attraction, the actual blockchain has to be better than the rest to make it where BTC will fail

moneroBoyToday at 2:44 AM
but for the moment they are not interested
initially they were planning for LN
and then Philipp decided to stop the LN development

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:44 AM
at the moment, NIM ain't worth mining to make profit, so unless you're hoping for a 20k BTC, its a dead end

moneroBoyToday at 2:44 AM
also Rust implementation allows multi threading
and also it was stopped too by Philipp
Most people are mining with Free Accounts from Google, Amazon and shit

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:45 AM
yea but RUST ain't a game changer, just like me moving the pool to mongodb wasn't (on its own)
it takes more lateral thinking to overcome scaling and design limitations

moneroBoyToday at 2:45 AM
quick dev question:

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:46 AM
and sometimes the educated have their heads so far up their own arses, they cannot see the wood for the tree's

moneroBoyToday at 2:46 AM
how is Nim storing its blockchain  on node.js. Meaning no browser (indexed db)
is it integrated with a database

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:46 AM
they made a custom JS db

moneroBoyToday at 2:46 AM
like other blockchain

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:46 AM
works in browser and server
JungleDB

moneroBoyToday at 2:46 AM
for browser they use IndexedDB

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:46 AM
nope, Jungle

moneroBoyToday at 2:47 AM
ok, i knew about it. I was curious the node.js of the JungleDB
implementation
probably files
using files to store the data

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:47 AM
the type of 'node' dictate's the amount of data it uses

moneroBoyToday at 2:47 AM
yea i know

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:47 AM
browser's were mean't to be light or nano
something like that

moneroBoyToday at 2:47 AM
Bitcoin used BerkleyDB
from Oracle if I remember correctly

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:48 AM
ah ok
oh that'll be top's then
lol

moneroBoyToday at 2:48 AM
yea, exactly
you can do a lot queries :smile:
however, I am very disappointed to see that they don't give a fuck about community and developers
it is just Richy who is a politician on the community

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:49 AM
well they would like to appear they do

moneroBoyToday at 2:49 AM
and the other people who are banning everybody else

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:49 AM
i don't know, not sure whose been banned

moneroBoyToday at 2:50 AM
they ban instantly anybody who is putting a question
asking a question about their direction

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:50 AM
ah

moneroBoyToday at 2:50 AM
they even banned Robin Linus
on telegram, discord and Reddit

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:50 AM
lol

moneroBoyToday at 2:50 AM
that's why we no longer see any message from Robin Linus

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:51 AM
anyone who's damaging to the glorious 'cash cow' Nimiq brand

moneroBoyToday at 2:51 AM
exactly. Nimiq was transformed into a scam cash cow for the team

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:51 AM
gotta protect your livelyhood

moneroBoyToday at 2:51 AM
but they don't want to tell us that
they ban the users in a instant. And ask themselves why nobody is joining
how could anybody join when they ban everybody

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:52 AM
well those who aren't into debt via ICO can thank their lucky stars
and most won't even know what NIM is
moneroBoyToday at 2:52 AM
did you invest also in NET or NIM?

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:52 AM
nope

moneroBoyToday at 2:52 AM
good to hear this
i invested a few thousands into NET
and I lost all my hope

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:53 AM
wow
i think in its hay day, was worth a decent amount
before my time though

moneroBoyToday at 2:54 AM
i invested in November actually
so i lost all my hopes into NET
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:54 AM
In Nov?

moneroBoyToday at 2:54 AM
2017

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:54 AM
NET had gone by then i thought
oh
ok

moneroBoyToday at 2:55 AM
i was just curious to implement something like coinjoin or even something more complex lik snarks
but it looks for me now that this project is dead already
and too late for a revival

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:55 AM
well it's gonna struggle whilst all crypto is in shite, especially when it doesn't solve the problem BTC has

moneroBoyToday at 2:56 AM
yeah, scalability would be an awesome unique selling point for nimiq

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:56 AM
but to be honest, the whole global economy is inflated

moneroBoyToday at 2:56 AM
especially if they start marketing
otherwise they will have major issues

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:56 AM
and liable to be taking it up the arse in the near future i think
lol

moneroBoyToday at 2:57 AM
their seed nodes were offline many times a couple of months ago
so their "scalability" is so fucked up

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:57 AM
oh, that's not good
well the hard part was done, when they secured ICO money

moneroBoyToday at 2:57 AM
they believe if they pay expensive servers
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:58 AM
that's quite an achievement lol

moneroBoyToday at 2:58 AM
they won't have issue with the network

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:58 AM
no such thing

moneroBoyToday at 2:58 AM
yeah, but immagine the poor ICO investors who lost a lot of money

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:58 AM
you have design resilience into the core

moneroBoyToday at 2:58 AM
i also lost more than money than them investing in nov'17
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:58 AM
yup, doesn't bare thinking about

moneroBoyToday at 2:58 AM
their project is so centralized
centralized nodes
centralized code
centralized community directions

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 2:59 AM
so, you came into the room to pick up some work and put them back on track?

moneroBoyToday at 2:59 AM
centralized updates
i was interested to get on their payroll
to do something

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:00 AM
you could be their 'knight in shining armour'

moneroBoyToday at 3:00 AM
for it
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:00 AM
yes, that would be nice

moneroBoyToday at 3:00 AM
no, need after you told me all the mess

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:00 AM
i could use some of that too
lol
my skills are quite specialised and this sort of work is few and far between
the pool server was a good job, nice to design and implement

moneroBoyToday at 3:01 AM
they have salaries of over $20,000 per month and they don't give a buck to developers or community members
you also developed nimbet.cc
isn't it?

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:01 AM
they don't need any help
yea, i come from a indices betting background, so fancied knocking something up
also to showcase my skills
and it was quite interesting too
be even better if it made money, lol
but no one knows about NIM
and its currently a mutual betting platform, so needs numerous players to work right

moneroBoyToday at 3:03 AM
nim became a dead project, most people just want some price increase to exit the project
this is why everybody is just asking marketing

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:03 AM
well at the price they are mining / buying.... should it do a BTC, they'll be able to retire lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:03 AM
for them to get a 10x and exit the project and never look back

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:04 AM
yes, but you cannot market a 'turd' can ya
but i'm sure some marketting cannot hurt
even if it x10, would be cool
and give something back to the investors

moneroBoyToday at 3:04 AM
i will tell you why
if they do a marketing, it is a pump
some people will buy
but immediately will be a huge dump
to exit the project

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:05 AM
yup

moneroBoyToday at 3:05 AM
so it the price will drop immediately
get got stuck
i also believe they buy a lot of NIMs
for instance one example
Although the premined 7.5% of nims for themselves at the moment
they shouldn't have nims avialable cuz they didn't access the vested account
but in the Community Project Funding
they give 40 millions NIMs
from where the heck do they have 40 millions per project
while they didn't access the premined coins

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:06 AM
i don't know
money corrupts people lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:06 AM
simple, they buy coins from the market
that's why the price never goes down than 18 sats

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:06 AM
well they can now, its worth shit lol
yea

moneroBoyToday at 3:07 AM
it is a dead end of nim and its investors
too bad for the ICO investors
who lost everything
the thing is that they could do a ICO refund
they still have 7 millions for the refund

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:08 AM
well they'll say that's the risk, x % all off startups fail etc.

moneroBoyToday at 3:08 AM
exactly
they will post a medium article
"Sorry guys, we have to shut down our operations"

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:08 AM
happens all the time, business funds miss-managed, company ends up being worth shit
money is never lost, its just moved

moneroBoyToday at 3:08 AM
this one is not miss-managed
it is turned into a scam
it is a difference

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:09 AM
yea i'm sure you're right
throw your opinions around in the nimiq chat and see how long you last lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:10 AM
yeah, i will get an instant ban

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:11 AM
would that matter? lol
i'd just be happy to do my coding and make a difference, and not be living on the 'bread line'
that'd do me lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:13 AM
i feel you
while they eat sushi and surf every fucking dinner

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:13 AM
haha, what a life ehh

moneroBoyToday at 3:14 AM
the problem is that they eat sushi
scamming ICO investors
and developers in the same time
like you Neil,
LTD, sander and everybody else
all other devs
and community mods

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:15 AM
yea well you gotta look after your own and your interests
survival of the fittest
hat's off to em
but I / we can still be 'fooking' annoyed, lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:17 AM
yeah i get you
like the guy with beepool
he worked so hard
and he closed his pool

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:17 AM
yea he's nice guy

moneroBoyToday at 3:18 AM
it looks you need to be from their hometown to be nice

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:18 AM
haha

moneroBoyToday at 3:19 AM
if you are not from their hometown you will get screwed by them

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:20 AM
maybe, i don't know


moneroBoyToday at 3:24 AM
it looks really bad

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:25 AM
could be better

moneroBoyToday at 3:25 AM
or worst

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:25 AM
yea, NIM could go to 0
defo room to go down, lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:26 AM
i really believe it can get closed
just like the closed NET

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:27 AM
well NET still had worth before it was retired I think
1 NET = 100 NIM perhaps? not sure
not that NIM was worth much, lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:27 AM
yeah it make sense
indeed NET was worth something
NIM can go literally down to 0

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:28 AM
yes, it keeps going lower and lower
when I started into NIM, the block reward was around $13
now its $3
some of that is due to BTC / ETH
but some due to NIM itself

moneroBoyToday at 3:30 AM
it looks really bad
just imagine, by end of the year it may worth just $0,3 a block reward

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:31 AM
Richy is active in the telegram room
why not give him some of your thoughts lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:31 AM
i will

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:31 AM
at least its some entertainment

moneroBoyToday at 3:32 AM
would like to be become an anonymous whisleblower ?
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:32 AM
especially how they carry on as if everything is great, lol
on what?

moneroBoyToday at 3:32 AM
from an insider

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:32 AM
none of what I've said is 'news'

moneroBoyToday at 3:32 AM
i know

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:32 AM
everyone know's

moneroBoyToday at 3:32 AM
but people can't believe

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:32 AM
yea i know

moneroBoyToday at 3:32 AM
they just trust what Richy is saying
if Richy tells that tomorrow is Raining, most will believe that tomorrow will be raining
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:33 AM
well i think Nimiq carefully distance themselves and control the situation
like the farcical AMA reddit shit lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:34 AM
people just want to know when is the pump
to sell off
like i told, they want to know when is the marketing to dump their coins
that's all they care
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:34 AM
well people get in to 'make' so u cannot blame em

moneroBoyToday at 3:34 AM
Probably you was one of the only ones who cared about the project

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:35 AM
and they prob fed up of holding
but i'm passionate about stuff i'm involved in and I've had a part in this, even if indirectly
was hoping to gain some global acclaim, lol
but I doubt Nimiq will around long enough for that to happen

moneroBoyToday at 3:36 AM
it won't
at the moment, they was this opportunity
to hijack the project
into a get-all from ICO

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:37 AM
oh I doubt they'd let that ICO money go easily lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:37 AM
they have no accountability
so it will be a medium post

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:37 AM
but I'm sure 'we' the public don't know the 1/2 of it

moneroBoyToday at 3:37 AM
"sorry guys"
"we burned all the money"
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:37 AM
"yea sorry guys, it was a nice ride"
lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:38 AM
Richy: "yea sorry guys, it was a nice ride, but it doesn't simply sell. We failed. We are sorry"
and yeah, that's how they got 12 millions
- robin's expenses

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:38 AM
be icing on the cake if they could blame someone too
yea, like robin
lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:38 AM
maybe they will blame robin as well
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:38 AM
always good to have a panzy

moneroBoyToday at 3:39 AM
our failure was from pot head Robin
hhaha

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:39 AM
they'll prob make a movie out of it
lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:39 AM
yeah, the crazy ones who failed

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:39 AM
wow, even more money! lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:39 AM
or maybe they will do another ICO
i trully believe the entire act  was Elion's idea
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:40 AM
yes, quite often these things repeat themselves
yea, well he's on the 'board' apparently
who knows

moneroBoyToday at 3:43 AM
i am really sorry to hear that after all this work done for nimiq code
they are not showing any kind of respect to the nimiq developers, while they have wages for over $200k per year

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:43 AM
oh that's not your problem

moneroBoyToday at 3:44 AM
for example, when I was working for monero as part time solving issues with their network, i got paid up front $75,000

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:44 AM
very nice!

moneroBoyToday at 3:45 AM
after my job was done
with the networking communications, they asked a few months later
to convert a Java code to C
and they paid after $100K

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:45 AM
wow

moneroBoyToday at 3:46 AM
the problem is that i got in conflct with them over the pools
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:47 AM
oh ok

moneroBoyToday at 3:48 AM
their also another explanation with they are not paying developers
it could be that they burned so much money that they can't sustain the project for long
Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:49 AM
oh they are
they employ 20 staff and most are dev's

moneroBoyToday at 3:51 AM
it looks bad man

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:51 AM
i should try and find some more work with someone else lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:52 AM
did you tell them that you need funds to continue working on nimiq?

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:53 AM
well they know what i've been doing, but I ain't been doing it direct for Nimiq
but no one has done any paid work for them, lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:54 AM
it is clearly they just want to scam exit the project

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:55 AM
well the ICO money and event is a distant memory now
and money in the bank, lol

moneroBoyToday at 3:56 AM
the dream just popped out

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 3:58 AM
eh?

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 4:05 AM
not really news, everyone knows
and prob a lot more than i  do

moneroBoyToday at 4:06 AM
definitely it is way more than this.
I really want to thank to whistle blow all this to me

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 4:07 AM
i'm sure robin will reveal more lol

moneroBoyToday at 4:07 AM
i hope so too. We need Robin Linus so much

Neil | nimbet.ccToday at 4:08 AM
yea seems like sound guy

What I don't understand is why Robin is not firing the people needed to be fired, its his vision from the start, and in that(whitepaper)/vision people invested in, he need to be the captain, and how does not like  it, needs to go. As far I as I know, he is still the head of the foundation and he could fire "Phillip the black goat" scammer - Philipp von Styp-Rekowsky

The nimiq team except Robin doesn't even care that they scammed us. It looks like bitconnect. They simply scam the shit out of you calling you a fudster and then they just upload a document on medium telling: "look. we are deeply sorry. we lost all your money". They have 0 responsibility towards the ICO investors, they call themselves protected, like me like sasha and thousands of other ICO investors and NET investors who lost millions and millions of dollars. I believe Phillip alone got more than 2 million dollars in just a year from the ICO. I am deeply disappointed that this project turned into a fucking scam and the fact I didn't follow my gut instinct that I should stay away from these people.

For the first time, I saw Phillip in a video I knew it is something malefic about him. Then I saw in the recent videos his wife and I knew they were planning something, namely the perfect scam for them for scam us. I also want my ICO money back.

@Robin you got fucked up by your colleagues  . They kicked you from the project to steal all the ICO money from you. That's how life it is. See Steve Jobs when he got fired fron Apple as CEO. In the meanwhile, he received a really great deal to exit the company. You can do the same (pretty much exit-scam the project) or suit up with lawyers and sue the shit out of them. My only concern is that, while these people on bitcointalk and dozens of telegram and discord members got removed, banned from chat groups for telling the truth behind this scam, why didn't you say anything publicly. It looks strange that you just popped out right now telling us that the team is exit-scamming the ICO money.

I hope you are all right and didn't have time to play with the gun. I pray to you and your mother to go to paradise to uncover the scam. Robin just confirmed who is responsible for stealing ICO money. See the Reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/Nimiq/comments/ado73k/future_of_nimiq/

man this confirms nimiq is a shitcoin and they are scammers. They are just interested to scam us by every decision they make. They are not interested into this project just to scam us from our money. This is the reason why they are running a fake volume trading bot and now they switch to Proof of Stake algorithm... NIMIQ = SHITCOIN worthless scam coin