please quote me a price in BTC for a full cow. Butchered, packaged, shipped frozen to MA.
I have been thinking about doing this locally, but I will entertain your offer because its in BTC.
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can you let my cow sleep on a mattress and drink beer?
That's awesome. Extra BTC for daily hand-massage Kobe style, right? Bits to Beef? Bitcoin Butchery? BitBeef? I'm see a new market opening up! |
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I think the anti-BTC ZH posters are quietly stocking up BTC while dismissing it as a Ponzi or "nerd-coins". Get in while the price is low...
While we're on the ZH topic, is there some kind of private joke about losing PMs in a "boating accident"? Seems like every article has that phrase in there somewhere. Urban legend?
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Got my new video card in and I don't need the free games. lt looks like the voucher goes for between $22-$45 on eBay.
Any offers for 1/2 BTC? I can either mail the voucher or just PM the codes once the BTC is sent.
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Is there a photo of just the back?
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I'm not interested in any challenge.
What you, lolwut, grue and similar people are interested in is one and just only one thing - infecting others with your sickness. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about but you post anyway. I'm supposed to be nice with you for the sake of what? Building an image of a nice person in order to gain respect and make a dollar or few eventualy? Fuck you, and welcome to ignore list. Do not ever buy anything from Bitcoin Megastore, it is a store for humans, not your worthless shit kind! All other retards please post here so I can put you on list as well. I have no time nor interest in coming to this forum to read your bullshits. That probably wasn't the smartest business move. Infecting? What does that even mean? I originally clicked on your post, excited, hoping to find a shop where I could buy whatever I wanted with my BTC. Afterall, it is called a "Megastore". But all I found was another CafePress, bullshit type thing. What you call "infecting" is calling into question your place and your shop's place in the BTC community. I like to spend my BTC on original things that people create, not some stupid t-shirt a guy puts the BTC symbol on, taking advantage of the logo. I don't even need to say anything else, I'll leave the self-destruction to you-you've been great at it so far. The weekly BTC color changes aren't mega? |
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I don't think coinabul will get scammer tagged - theymos probably does not consider the evidence here to be "clear".
At this point, it's not (in my opinion). Coinabul has been around since the beginning. Anyone else get screwed? Not me, other than some communication issues. Havent seen any other claims? Has there ever been one besides OP? While I disagree with most here about the scammer tag, I believe they are liable for the insurance mishap. Cost of doing business unfortunately. |
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Holy Moses. How can you accidentally scam someone when the whole point of a scam is a pre-planned act to defraud someone? Geezus I give up, it's like arguing with Zero Hedge posters about what a Ponzi scheme is and that Bitcoin isn't one. Just stop already. So if Pirate had been investing people's Bitcoins in another Ponzi scheme that he himself believed was legitimate, he wouldn't have been scamming? You answered your own question - another Ponzi scheme? If he took the money he collected from his Ponzi and donated to an orphanage, it's still a Ponzi and he's still a scammer. Next question. |
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In my opinion its not a scam, they just use some shitty business practices. Not evil, just negligent. I wouldn't use the service either way.
If your negligence causes someone harm and you don't compensate them, that's evil. Negligence is not evil, so long as you compensate people when it causes harm. So let's get a "Negligent" tag. If Coinabul can't put forth the documents proving adequate insurance, they're negligent and should compensate. If they don't compensate, then let the free markets take over. There's plenty of places to trade BTC for coins. |
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I fail to see the point of disputing wether a Scam requires prior intent other than to be contrary
You, not me, started this BS about scam requiring prior intent. Holy Moses. How can you accidentally scam someone when the whole point of a scam is a pre-planned act to defraud someone? Geezus I give up, it's like arguing with Zero Hedge posters about what a Ponzi scheme is and that Bitcoin isn't one. Just stop already. |
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It's a slang word, just like "offing" or "whacking" someone means to murder. If I accuse you of whacking someone it's the same as an accusation of murder. If you're accusing someone of scamming, you're accusing them of the intent to commit fraud. What's your definition of a scammer? |
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From Coinabuls TOS: Dispute Resolution It is our goal that all disputes can be resolved in a timely fashion. To that end, use of any Coinabul service requires that you agree to dispute resolution as outlined below: 1.Forum Selection: The State courts of Wyoming shall have jurisdiction in any disputes. Disputes must be resolved within those courts. By using any Coinabul service, you agree to waive any objection to the jurisdiction of those courts. 2.Governing Law: This User Agreement shall be governed and interpreted in agreement with the laws of Wyoming. 3.Waiver of Jury Trial: Arbitration: BOTH COINABUL AND YOU WAIVE YOUR RIGHT TO TRAIL BY JURY AND ARBITRATION IN THE EVENT OF ANY DISPUTE. Liability Failure to perform or delay in the performance of any of our obligations due to events that are beyond our control is excusable, and Coinabul cannot be held responsible or liable for any losses or damages incurred because of such events. Further Assurances By using any Coinabul service, you agree to complete and provide any other reasonable documentation or actions which may be required. Notices All communications with us must be through an authorized agent of Coinabul in the state of Wyoming. All communications to you will be sent to the mailing address, or e-mail address you provided upon registration. Absence of Waivers Any failure or decision not to take action in response to any of your failures to comply with these Conditions of Use does not affect the ability of Coinabul to act upon any other such failure. Severability If any term of the User Agreement is found to be unenforceable under the applicable laws, it does not affect the enforceability of any other term. If you have any questions regarding Coinabul, contact us: via email at contact@Coinabul.com, or by phone at 1-321-222-7748, or by mail at 2710 Thomes Ave, Cheyenne WY, 82001. The "TRAIL" by jury made me lol. If I were the buyer, I'd start the procedure with the Wyoming courts. Stay off the trails though, I hear theres big bear out there. |
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May not seem logical, but it's the rules of law. Coinabul is disputing the liability. When you say "in fact liable", unless you've got some black robes and juris doctorate we dont know about, you can't "in fact liable" anything.
You've got some kind of PROOF that shows Coinabul DIDN'T have any insurance for this shipment? It's a liability dispute. Coinabul believes that they are not liable. Buyer believes Coinabul is liable. Up to a judge to decide in a civil decision.
If buyer decides to go through with a civil subpoena and prove that Coinabul didn't insure the package, then go ahead with your scammer label.
Good enough logic fer ya?
This forum has its own rules, so tagging Coinabul as a scammer is completely separate from the court of law. You're right. However throwing that tag around without some kind of proofs will diminish the "scammer tag" to the point that it's meaningless. In my opinion? You've got to show some clear intent that Coinabul wanted to save some profit by not insuring or under-insuring the package. |
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If I was Jon, I'd post a pic or some kind of documentation showing that insurance was purchased for that order. If they can't provide it, refund the order or get scammer tag. If Coinabul can provide the proper docs, let em hash it out in small claims court.
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There's no issue of scamming, OP should really edit the title and go with the liability angle.
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If this went to small claims court, unless the circumstances were like the ones listed above, this would be over in 15 minutes in favor of the buyer.
So if somebody is in fact liable for something but does not accept liability then he's not scamming? Great logic there. May not seem logical, but it's the rules of law. Coinabul is disputing the liability. When you say "in fact liable", unless you've got some black robes and juris doctorate we dont know about, you can't "in fact liable" anything. You've got some kind of PROOF that shows Coinabul DIDN'T have any insurance for this shipment? It's a liability dispute. Coinabul believes that they are not liable. Buyer believes Coinabul is liable. Up to a judge to decide in a civil decision. If buyer decides to go through with a civil subpoena and proves that Coinabul didn't insure the package, then go ahead with your scammer label. Good enough logic fer ya? |
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Silver is FAR from useless. Not only has it served as a way to store wealth for thousands of years, but its use in industry is ever-increasing. Silver is the greatest conductor of heat and electricity. Not to mention, its a lot of fun to collect.
Not only that, but silver is one of the few PMs that is "used" for things like medical x-rays, etc. Once it's used, you can't recover it. Silver has always been a favorite of mine, and with BTC being up and silver being down taking a little BTC off the table is a no-brainer. |
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In for 1 bomb ice cube tray. Very funny - looking forward to getting bombed.
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There's no issue of scamming, OP should really edit the title and go with the liability angle. If Coinabul was scamming, there'd be a lot more complaints than just one. If USPS was scamming, that would be evident as well.
The buyer is not liable for an ordered product (with insurance) that doesn't make it to the destination. If the buyer was given the option for insurance (like a check-box) and declined - buyer is liable. If the buyer did not research customs laws within his/her country and it got seized - buyer is liable. If the buyer knows the product is illegal to own and it gets seized anywhere between shipper and buyer - buyer is liable. Those are the only three instances that I can see where Coinabul is not liable.
Coinabul is on the hook for providing faulty/inadequate insurance, something that absolutely should have been researched extensively before coin #1 shipped. I don't remember anything when I ordered from them about risk involved with shipping coins/bullion. They need that as an "I Agree" checkbox at order placement.
It's not a scam, no malice from Coinabul and no intent to defraud. Liability though? If this went to small claims court, unless the circumstances were like the ones listed above, this would be over in 15 minutes in favor of the buyer.
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I've done business with Coinabul. I've received every shipment - after an email asking where the shipment was. In their defense, I've never registered an account and always did a straight purchase. One status request email went unanswered for more than four days while the order was being "checked" (not fun). I got the order, but no email with a shipping confirmation or tracking number. The reason Jon gave was that sometimes Gmail "doesn't play nice with our emails occasionally". I was pleased with product, but I thought the communication could have been better.
I have an order pending with Amagi metals, and I've had three very good transactions with Jay at rarepandacoins. I tend to stress when I have coins sent through the mail, and I'm almost OCD'ing while watching the tracking number. I don't like stress. This customer's experience may have soured future purchases with Coinabul.
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Know BFL's thinking they may get some of the first orders out by the end of next week - any word yet to send in the FPGA units? Also, thought I saw another post somewhere that said you may have the option of doing a deposit and ship the FPGA's back once you get the ASICs. Just was curious and figured you'll [OgNasty] be the first to know of anyone  I'm in the very low 1800s order number and no email yet. Og is before me but not by a separate shipping date (I hope) |
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