Require BTC bech32 address (if not available on the spreadsheet)
MAK400
Finixtex
Green_Earth
entebah

Require LTC address  (if not available on the spreadsheet)
Banprox
Jomunariver798
Version20
Ibrahim60
Mamun74
Hitlar11
Rana590
loginid
Starrc84
Deviljr
FinanceBD$
NNRR
Srvillain
Ikaur122
cheezcarls
Shaysab27
ayanrumi
Cleaner00
captan75
tamim60
McniColl
LUCKMCFLY

If your payment address are already on the spreadsheet then make sure it's a correct one. I will not take any responsibility of any payment that will be sent to a wrong address. Last date of submitting/updating payment address is on Sunday 13th 23:59 forum time.

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12ahQ4o6Az5GjZs4rxcAjpmGfv972tZtJ7RGg5InTars/edit?usp=sharing

This was a bounty that was posted on games and rounds section, but later mods deleted it. There is a discussion about this incident which is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5338727.0

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I am not sure if I have posted the topic on a correct section. It's not a service, so I can't post it in service section, not a bounty so can not post in altcoin(bounty) section too. It seemed more to me a reputation issue right now because the owner of the bounty owe money to all the above users, and I am responsible to ensure that they will get paid. I can't also contact all these users personally, also this requires a public presence too. So considering all these I am creating this topic in Reputation section. Mods are free to move it to an appropriate section or anyone else can suggest me to where to move this type of topics.

An update for everyone. Just came home from Hospital few hours ago. I was hospitalized on 23rd, and I did not have any facilities, did not have physical condition to come online to give an update. I am doing well now. Please keep me in your prayer.

Thanks buddy for doing this. I sent a text to onemd on telegram.

@Bttzed03 would you like to continue with clintk and give a conclusion please.
@clintk thanks for making the account and decided to communicate here to be open to the community.

Although I am still hitting my head against the wall to understand mprep's interpretation, the topic could just move to altcoin (bounty) section since it's obvious that intention of OP was not promoting LTC but paying in LTC (low value amount to avoid dust payment) and BTC to perform a task which is to tweet Elon.

How would one determine if the task is not substantial. Those who will get paid in LTC was asked to make a certain tweet which was already given but those who will be paid in BTC was ask to make their own tweet, but it has to go with the original idea of OP.

This is where it gets even worse. Initially OP had plan to pay everyone using BTC. But when I suggested him that he should consider paying the small amount using an ALT (possibly I suggested LTC) to avoid dust output of BTC he agreed. Then I revised the terms and give him the revised terms to update his original post. With years of experience if my understanding of rule is not clear then how would we expect a user like OP (who is very new to this forum) will understand this special rule correctly. In fact, this rule is becoming confusing as we speak. If we focus on only the responses of this topic we will see except mprep and maybe PN7, rest of us are thinking the thread was just fine and actually protesting the action that mprep has taken.

How would you now apply the rule now when it's very clear that OP's intension was modified by me, and he reposted the topic after taking my suggestion. If it really is a bannable offence (let's say all of us are wrong but only mprep's interpretation is right) then does OP deserve ban, or it should be me?

@Bttzed03, I invited them into this topic. Hopefully they will answer here.

Honestly speaking, your understanding and interpretation of rules are going over my head (maybe my level of intellectuality is way lower than you). Maybe we can draw a line in disagreement because clearly we are looking this case from completely two different angles. Your focus in on the ALT coin part and my focus (and perhaps others too) is on the Bitcoin part. You are more into finding a little fault (not sure indeed it was there) and ban hammer a user by not caring about anything and without even looking at details and I (perhaps other too) are more into being open and give enough thought before taking any negative action.

But eventually your one will stand because you are playing an official rule. Just make sure that you don't make this space hard for genuine crypto lovers, bitcoin enthusiasts. Bitcoin still has a long way to go, and we need to ensure that we are helping to make this community bigger.

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The piece of rule we have (let's not highlight any part of it, just be it the way it is)

The topic in question: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5338426.0
Since deleted, the final contents of the topic (read quoted part since that was the final agreement) :  https://paste.ee/p/dEwKE

The reaction/opinion from the members who have given in this thread -

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Let's forget what others are thinking or interpreting the rule/situation let's just point what mprep and hilariousandco (both global moderator after all) considering unofficial rule number 23.

Eventually this is where we stand

Project website: https://salientinvestmentholding.com/

Let's make it short:
https://imgur.com/a/WMpN0Y3
https://imgur.com/a/soqq31i

Time: 24 hours please

reserved!

I am not sure in which board I should post this topic but since it's kind of investigation and I will honour some rewards I thought this should be in Service section. I thought of Reputation section and scam accusation board, but it does not fit the idea. Especially scam accusation will be very inappropriate because until they scam, or we find any reason for them to scam.

A project (already have forum profile or not yet) is working on launching on this platform. They come to you and ask to help them to manage their bounty campaign. You look at the project and do not feel comfortable. You smell that it could be a hype/ponzi/scam project, but you are not 100% sure at the same time because they explain why it's not. What would you do? Leave the campaign with the doubt or you go and ensure that there are no doubts. If doubts are clear and turns out the hesitations in you were wrong then you take the project, help them to fulfil their goal. All get the benefits. The project, you and eventually the bounty hunters, signature campaign participants.

The inspiration of the idea is this posted by user Mpamaegbu. It's hard to know if a project will pay or not, even if it looks all okay. I think the hunters always take this massive risk especially when a project is paying in their native tokens, and they have not generated the token yet. But at least this is a small effort to ensure that we eliminate scam projects even before they launch their campaign.


TL;DR;
When I have proposal to work in a project, if somehow I get confuse and need to be 100% sure that it's not a wrong project then I will post the details about it in this topic. You can turn your notification on for this thread. I know there are intelligent members who are very good at spotting scams and I will appreciate the effort. In return, I will share $50 pool each time if the project pass the investigation and I take the responsibility to manager their campaign. If it does not pass the investigation then please create a scam accusation against the project and save the community. Obviously they will have a "no" from me after.

Topic related discussion will be here please: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328445.0

PS: If you are a project owner, your project is legitimate and pass this investigation then you already won a big battle before even launching it in the community. So please do not take this approach against you. For a legit project this step should not be a concern at all.

I wonder why wasn't it moved to the right board? Either Service or Bounty (altcoin). Wouldn't that be a better solution than banning and removing a topic from a new member who is genuinely interested to do something for Bitcoin? The payment had two forms: LTC and BTC. Why only considered LTC (negative) side but not BTC (positive) side?

Let me mark bold from the same quote which makes it right if you would move that to Bounty (altcoin) considering you have missed that he is paying $200 worth of BTC in BTC for a tweet.


While I can not recall if there were same case but in his case he is not paying only with altcoin. In fact, the main goal was to pay bitcoin but since the lower amounts will consider dust bitcoin, the plan was changed (Read here the post I made just after the main thread with concerns about dust payment and suggesting escrow). For 0.000005 to 0.0002 BTC changed plan was to pay using LTC and 0.0007 to 0.005 BTC will be paid using BTC, obviously. Besides, he even escrowed 0.025BTC to ensure that community knows they will get paid. I would love to see an example where user is paying in BTC and escrowed the BTC but got banned and their topics were removed from G&R boards since you are claiming this is same case as many others' giveaway.

What if change the word "giveaway" and create the same but use the word "twitter bounty"? Would that consider fine? I guess yes coz that become just another twitter bounty we regularly see in service board and altcoin (bounty) board. Just one word that makes all the difference.

If there were no more report against it then it was me who was suggesting to move it to service section as my take was since it's paying in BTC, it should be in service section. The report was not to remove the topic at all.

Honesty speaking I did not look in details. It was just a random read, and it looked like the user had genuine interest and was asking genuine question in the mining board.

I understand he is a busy bee and perhaps has his priorities so don't mind him much. It's obvious that he handles gigantic number of PMs and other form of inquiries every day.

No I did not, I was not intending too as I moved on from that one. Besides, do you think theymos actually give response to the PMs. Once in a 100 times maybe he does which is not very good gesture (sorry no disrespect buddy, maybe you have priorities).

If  you check the unedited archives (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5338426) it does not seem to have any spam attack or such things. It was in the Games and rounds sub, but it should be better in either Service or Altcoin (Bounty) board.

PS: If you have the authority then please review the ban against the user too. And let us know.

Cheers buddy.

I would say poor enforcement of rules. I don't know if it was like this before or lately the mods are not spending much time in details before deleting a topic/post or even banning a user. In several occasions I have seen most of the time newbies and low rank members are victim of the poor moderation. The last one I remember happened with a newbie who was genuinely asking question on mining board, but his post/s was/were deleted. Ultimately, by giving the excuse of keeping the forum clean, we are demoralizing genuine crypto lovers, or what message you think are being sent to them?

It's very strange that our understanding of rules and mods understanding of rules has conflict despite some of us are even way older and active in the community than them. The moderation standard should be improved in my opinion. With the current setup/quality we are not helping the community much. I hope by saying this I am not making anyone angry against me. I always say that this community is my priority and I ensure it all the time.

Anyway, I have not talked to onemd yet. I am thinking to give him a proposal if he still wants to run this camping.

I will have two bounty threads. One in Service section and another one in altcoin (bounty) section for his campaign. The service section is for only BTC payment which is 0.0007 to 0.005 BTC and the altcoin (bounty) section will have the lower payment spreads, 0.000005 to 0.0002 BTC which will be paid in LTC. Rest of the things will be same, same terms and stuffs, and even I will be using same spreadsheet for two separate topics.

This does look annoying, but it seems the mods want this approach. At lest it was clear from the issue I had last time with a campaign paying 20% in BTC and 80% in native token.

PS: I really hope that they unban onemd. He does not deserve it.

Unless someone from inside reveal the secret (if there is any), we will never know but from normal look it seems excessive traffic cause the issue. I am not much into panic trading or don't hold much crypto in exchanges so never had this experience since I do not visit the exchanges all the time.

The exchanges need very high-end dedicated servers I guess which I am not sure why they don't have it. Facebook, Google kind of service goes down once in a moon.

The topic creator is banned.
Topic in question: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5338426.0

The final contents of the topic (read quoted part since that was the final agreement) :  https://paste.ee/p/dEwKE

Obviously it does not fit in games and rounds, but it fits in either in service section or in bounty (altcoin) section. How does it differ from a Twitter bounty, the regular ones we see in both sections?

I was suggesting mods to move the topic to service section after agreeing a response from LoyceV here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331196.msg57042158#msg57042158

There must be a misunderstanding. There are no low effort tasks for altcoins or this kind. The campaign has been designed to pay in BTC but anything equal and under 0.0002 BTC seemed dust payment to me and I was suggesting OP to pay them in LTC to avoid dust issue. The payments of 0.0007 to 0.005 BTC should have no problems at all with BTC, so agreement was to pay anything between 0.0007 to 0.005 BTC will be in BTC. Quote this: 0.005 BTC to pay for a tweet was around $200 at the time the topic was created.

Now my problem here is that I am providing escrow services (0.025 BTC initially to secure the participants get paid) and managing the campaign. Here is the spreadsheet which is incomplete and a lot of them has done using https://ninjastic.space/topic/5338426 earlier.

For sure, I know there are users who updated their post after reserving their spot but since ninjastic.space does not record any update after more than 5 minutes (I assume) I have marked a lot of entries with yellow colour. There are so far total 0.00280000 BTC will be paid in BTC and 0.00305000 BTC will be paid in equivalent LTC (please check BTC and LTC tab).

It was supposed to be in service or altcoin (bounty) and those who Tweeted then update their post later should get paid.

I would like mod to review the action they have taken and consider restoring the topic and possibly move it to service or altcoin (bounty) section. The OP should also deserve to unban if this is a misunderstanding.

Or please help me to understand how the campaign was different from the regular social bounties we see in service and altcoin (bounty) section.

Cheers.

I have a few projects in pipeline and some of them requires Reddit and 4chan bounty. I am looking for someone to assist me on these to categories. Ideally someone who has long term experience with reddit and 4Chan accounts and understand the platform as I understand bitcointalk.

If you are the guy then feel free to contact me on my telegram: @Royse777

I guess we still have time. I am unaware of CET :-D

15,000

I go bearish :-D

TA? Always goes over my head :-(

Hello!
Here is my service page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328445.0

Feel free to have a look and contact me on Telegram: @Royse777

If this fits my standard then I would love to help you.

Cheers,

Unlocked and waking it up with new finding.

This campaign (I would say it campaign) was posted on Games and rounds section, The owner posted it before I offered him to use escrow and stuffs. It was fun to ask, but later it turned out to be serious. Eventually, I am holding 0.025 BTC for this campaign.

TL;DR to avoid dust payments - small payments will be made using LTC but large payments which is as large as $200 (around in current bitcoin price) will be paid using BTC.

Shouldn't we move it to the Service section?

New JOB in the pipeline!

1. Copy/pasters who have 10,000 or above followers.
2. For 10,000 and more followers: not a creative tweet rather it feels like a spam tweet.
3. Have not followed given rules.

Time: Starts once we have the spreadsheet published. (it will be shared in this thread in a separate post, turn on your notifications)
Project:  Giving 🚀BITCOIN🚀 To Ppl That Post The Following On 🔥Elon's🔥 Twitter!💰
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5338426.msg57041249#msg57041249