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3101  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~50 Gh/s on: March 08, 2011, 03:15:08 AM
19 blocks today  Grin

Yay for me and my laptop, I missed 10.  Cry
3102  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thought Experiment: Is Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme? on: March 08, 2011, 03:12:46 AM
I disagree, higher prices won't effect trade, in fact it would encourage it. People see what a bitcoin is worth they're more likely to like being paid it.

You're missing the point. Higher prices will turn off all those who aren't trading them yet. It's like when you look at stocks, everyone wants to find and buy that one super cheap stock that will explode in price when it becomes really popular. Once it's popular and the price already exploded mostly day traders buy it...

With the amount of services and goods being offered and the volume at the exchanges anyone without any screws loose will quickly recognize that $0.90 is just too high of a price and will simply not buy. I know I wont even though I think this is the greatest invention I have ever discovered.

My prediction: the price average might hover at this mark for a while longer despite ever higher hashing difficulty and ever larger network. Then there will either be a shit ton of people entering the market based only on the logic behind bitcoins and them being the great invention that they are and not their actual market value and the price will rise or people will follow common sense, look at the volume, look at the services and goods available for BitCoins and decide against entering the market and the price will stagnate and eventually fall and the hoarders will soon hold worthless BitCoins at which point they'll start selling for cheaper and cheaper until the market will find the price for their actual value.

I think Satoshi made a huge mistake when he was designing the whole thing. If I could have changed one thing it would be the rate of issuing new BitCoins to a really slow start and then double the rate until we reached half of the 21mio limit and then I'd reverse the trend back to ever slower issuing until the limit is reached. This way the first people would still get a head start but not to the extent they did now and the supply of BitCoins would have been much more evenly spread between the economy which would encourage more trade and would keep the price low through competition until they would have actually gained value.

But it is what is now I guess. In the end hoarders will sell and price will drop, it'll just be a longer and more grueling process that's all.
3103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: malicious "gifts" on: March 08, 2011, 12:57:24 AM
I was not thinking of someone eating them. I had remembered news articles involving people would would have severe reactions to simply coming in contact with peanut oil. Something that could happen simply opening a box. However when looking for source to back that up I found that such claims are wildly exaggerated. So that concern is a non-issue. Still there is the issue of more minor harassment with little chance of being caught.

You are asking the wrong question. The question can't be "What can we do to prevent this from happening?" but rather "Who will find the best answer if such a problem occurs?"

You see no single person can possibly answer all the questions to all the problems that exists, hence why the idea of politicians is so ridiculous, I mean as if a title grants them a special kind of wisdom to deal with problems?  Roll Eyes

The answer to the right question is always "the free market". If there's going to a problem someone will offer a service to solve that problem and if the service is good and problem big enough people will pay for it and use it and if not that someone will find something else to do. Simple, isn't it?
3104  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: malicious "gifts" on: March 08, 2011, 12:39:27 AM
Trying to kill someone by sending them something they are allergic to is a very chancy way to go about it, but if there was no risk of being caught (mined coins + tor) there's bound to be some assholes who would try it.

Here's a crazy idea: If I'm allergic to peanuts and I get some in the mail, guess once what I'll do with them!? NOT EAT THEM.


FFS quit fearmongering because it's a non issue.
3105  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: malicious "gifts" on: March 08, 2011, 12:21:50 AM
Well, how much of a problem is it RIGHT NOW? Because I fail to see how this issue is specific to bitcoin, one of the oldest pranks in the book is ordering a bunch of pizza to your target's house or getting a ton of manure dumped on their driveway.

+1
3106  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: [ANNOUNCE] BitCoinJ v0.1, a client-mode implementation in Java on: March 08, 2011, 12:16:02 AM
Is it? I don't understand how he can take something that's open source and put a copy right on it? I'm not a programmer so that might be the reason why. Also I'm very wary about some big company having anything to with the BitCoin clients.

I of course appreciate his effort I just don't fully understand what he is doing and what his motivations might be.
He's not "take[n] something that's open source and put a copy right on it". Google held the copyright (as he developed it at Google) and instead of not releasing it, they chose to release it under an open source license. Most (all?) open source software will be copyrighted. I suppose [mike] could have released the client into the public domain, but I suspect Google would prefer some sort of license.

Thanks, that clears it up for me.
3107  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: [ANNOUNCE] BitCoinJ v0.1, a client-mode implementation in Java on: March 07, 2011, 11:44:56 PM
Google staff have the ability to spend ~20% of their time on projects that interest them, as long as they are relevant or useful to the company

Thanks [mike] (and Google) for using your 20% time on this project.  This is a great contribution to the Bitcoin community.

Is it? I don't understand how he can take something that's open source and put a copy right on it? I'm not a programmer so that might be the reason why. Also I'm very wary about some big company having anything to with the BitCoin clients.

I of course appreciate his effort I just don't fully understand what he is doing and what his motivations might be.
3108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thought Experiment: Is Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme? on: March 07, 2011, 11:33:01 PM
Suppose a Bitcoin clone with little to no changes would startup tomorrow. Would miners switch?

I think they would, because early adoptors had (and still have) a big advantage with the current inflation model.
During the first year about half of all currently existing bitcoins were mined, while there were practically no transactions, and almost none of it has been spend.
Why would late comers simply accept this? If you newly learn about Bitcoin, you'll always have an incentive to start from zero.
Unlike gold, bitcoin is not unique and was never intended to be.
I'm not arguing on economic grounds, and do support the austrian school, so please don't restart the old inflation vs. deflation debate.
It's about sustainability of continuous network growth, which seems to need an equal playing ground in time.


Definitely not a ponzi even though the original miners accumulated a ton of BitCoins. Why? Because if they wanted to "cash in" they'd crash the price and their BTC would essentially be worthless.

It could put a damper on how fast the BitCoin economy grows though if we experience hoarding which I think we are. I doubt the current price is very realistic and is mainly supported by the unwillingness of the majority of the most wealthy BitCoin owners to sell. If the price stays this high new people will be more reluctant to enter so my hope is those hoarding right now will realize this and will start selling more and lower making the price more appealing and getting more people in.

I doubt miners would switch to an identical cryptocurrency since it's not the easiest thing to have those mined coins actually have some real world value but I could see this happen if perhaps a better much improved cryptocurrency emerged.
3109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoins catch on, will people get used to having so few? on: March 07, 2011, 11:19:57 PM
Are 22mil bitcoins enough for a mainstream currency?  I know that they're divisible to eight decimal places, etc., but most people are used to adding numbers to the left of the decimal place, not the right.  I wonder how real this psychological barrier is.   (I realize that the ceiling for new minting can not be changed.)

The answer is it doesn't matter. As long as people have the trust that their BitCoins will retain their value that's all that's important, everything else is just semantics..
3110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of transactions on: March 07, 2011, 11:15:11 PM
In bitcoin, one only knows (a) input addresses, (b) output addresses, and (c) amount.  That tells you send, receiver and amount.

I think you misunderstood his question.

I've been looking through block explorer but im still a little fuzzy on some of the terms and structure

Is there anyway /anywhere i can get a simple list of transactions with just the data of sender/receiver/amount?

Unfortunately I don't know the answer either, try the wiki pages.
3111  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mass Awakening Documentary, featuring Bitcoin. Intro, Rough Cut. on: March 07, 2011, 11:10:18 PM
I look at these kind of "know it all" documentaries as only mere distraction from the real problem which is:

Our freedom and our rights to private property.



None of the problems would exists if we had complete freedom and absolute rights to private property. Also I don't ever pretend I know the answers to problems, no one does for that matter but the free market. That's what we need to focus on if we ever want to have a prosperous world and a bright future.
3112  Economy / Economics / Re: WTH? why a sudden drop by 10 cents? on: March 07, 2011, 08:48:57 PM
I have a feeling that the change of ownership of Mt. Gox might have caused this slight dip in the prices.

I think X cause Y change in bitcoin price.

Yeah I hate it when today's "news" outlets release articles about various prices rising or falling and then they pin on something banal like I don't know unrests in Libya being responsible for rising price of silver...  Roll Eyes

It's always just supply vs demand with a tiny bit of the speculative element.
3113  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin donations for Stefan Molyneux / Freedomain Radio (@117.50 BTC) on: March 07, 2011, 04:33:34 PM
Damn this guy is way too slow in adopting new technology. It is quite irritating that he is unable to see the potential of Bitcoin.

I know right, especially since he used to run a software development company..
3114  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~50 Gh/s on: March 07, 2011, 04:03:52 PM
How accurate are the hash rates on the 'my account' page?

For example, Ihave 2 instances of poclbm running and it says a pretty steady number of 298mhps on both. So just under 600mhps. But the server says Im hitting it with 650mhps. Is this a graphic issue on my end?


I think the server only calculates it for that particular 7min interval you submitted a hash block in.
3115  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~50 Gh/s on: March 07, 2011, 03:14:29 PM
My balance got emptied but I didn't receive anything, is everything ok?
3116  Economy / Economics / Re: Will deflationary model be a hindrance to general acceptance of Bitcoin? on: March 07, 2011, 02:46:33 AM
Except - how do you convince the majority of people, who have no clue how the economy works, that getting pay cuts is... well, maybe not "good" but is certainly normal? And unless you can convince people to start using Bitcoins in every day transactions, I don't see how BTC are going to be accepted very much. And if they're not going to be used in every day transactions, what's the point?

My friend you worry too much. Gold which has similar properties as BitCoins has been chosen by the market consistently throughout the last 6000 years so as the best suited commodity to use as money. As long as people are free to choose they'll always pick sound money over fiat and you have to keep in mind that currently people don't have a choice but are forced by law to accept ever depreciating currency.
3117  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI frontend for poclbm released - looking for testers on: March 07, 2011, 01:41:25 AM
I have a problem with the gui, it only seems to max out the GPU at around 30% even though the non-gui version maxes out at 100%
I'm using an Nvidia card with the latest drivers and windows 7.

Is there actually a way to set what % of power GPU should use for hashing?
3118  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin donations for Stefan Molyneux / Freedomain Radio (@117.50 BTC) on: March 07, 2011, 01:39:32 AM
Hello all,

I am starting a fundraiser for Stefan Molyneux / Freedomain Radio.

If you enjoy his commentary/videos/philosophy you can donate by sending your coins here:

19vhXH8her5oBsZGdnRy4AU7cJoJRMuk8u

(This is a mybitcoin account that I will hand over to him in 30 days).

Cheers!
The Madhatter


I asked Stefan today on his show what his opinion of BitCoins was and he said he didn't know enough about it to share his opinion yet.
3119  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~50 Gh/s on: March 07, 2011, 01:17:36 AM
Why oh why oh why don't people understand statistics and probability?  Huh  Undecided Undecided Undecided

Don't know but it makes me a happy camper, especially when I play poker Smiley
3120  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Targeted advertisement - Who would BitCoins appeal the most to? on: March 07, 2011, 01:01:33 AM
You seem like you're just pissed that you don't generate lots of coins and others do, because you don't have the hardware for it. In bringing more people in to mine, the coins you generate will go down as well as the established  miners, so it won't really change anything. Seems misguided to say the least.

You couldn't be more wrong. I just see it as a huge turn off for new people to risk their fiat currency for BitCoins when they learn about it. IE a problem. A problem which I provided an answer to that doesn't even involve those who already own the 5.6mio.
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