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3121  Economy / Economics / Re: You only need 1 good year for Bitcoin to be a good investment on: June 28, 2018, 04:27:21 PM
for btcs to prove that they are good investments, they can be searched or researched over coinmarketcap.com about the past records of btcs

Do not complain and keep waiting for good luck. As you said we need a year or more to get a good profit from bitcoin investment because usually the price is in downward trend at the beginning of the year and prices skyrocket on the other end so it means we need at least a year. But many people are invested in bitcoin at the wrong time when the price is already high. And chances are people will buy bitcoin for a year more than 80%, and in this January many people expect bitcoin prices to exceed 50K or even 100K. I am careful about that, but when the investment is risky, I hope the price can stabilize above 10K this year.
I do not agree to that statement. One year is a long time. Only six months are enough to become an expert in any company anywhere around the world. Either you do online bounty campaigns, or long term or short term trading, you can really learn the tricks and tactics in a short time to be a good investor and not in a year. Having said that, if you invest in Bitcoin right now, you will be able to invest and earn huge in few months.

6 years may be enough to make you an "expert" But being an expert won't allow you to affect the market and have consitent successful trades. What op probably meant is that a with the right capital and good decision making, a year of good movement would be enough to make significant profits.
3122  Economy / Economics / Re: Can human stupidity affect the movement of the market? on: June 28, 2018, 04:23:03 PM
It might affect a little but those studpid human for me dont have a huge amount of bitcoin because if they, they are very careful on what action do they made right? because if they fail to be careful they might lose a huge amount unlike those small time holder or trader most of them dont care what action they made.

Panic selling can also be attributed to stupidity and it affects the market big time. Most panic sellers are people who don't take time to study what they're about to do thus making a stupid decision at the onset. Emotions then would be high when the market begins to drop and they sell in  bulk at a loss, affecting not only their finaces but the state of the market as well
3123  Economy / Economics / Re: Trading Bitcoin for real estate? on: June 28, 2018, 03:32:19 PM
I am not selling any crypto for real estate, as I do not have that much yet. Cheesy But later, I might would sell part of my investments, in the name of diversification.
prefer to wait until your bitcoin value able to buy real estate.it doesnt need long time, just for next several years we will able to buy real estate using our bitcoin.even just using one bitcoin.
that's good advice, holding or maybe accumulate our bitcoin stock by buying it good for us .it will give us big profit in 2019 while bitcoin while rising and make new high.it is possible in 2019 buying real estate if we buy bitcoin right now.

Well accumulating one bitcoin is quite hard for a regular person to do and it would take a lot more than one to acquire a property. If it comes tona point when btc is that valuable, i think it's reasonable to consider getting a property for your btcs since is a physical investment that is more secure than digital assets
3124  Economy / Economics / Re: Would a global disaster increase or decrease the Bitcoin value ? on: June 28, 2018, 03:28:41 PM
this is a hard question. if the governments change, if the regime changes, these and other social events become effective. war is a different event. It can be effective for bitcoin.

I don't see it that way. Nothing good comes out of a global disaster. War, calamity, all these can affect the basic requirements that we need to even access our wallets. Hopefully none of that happens anytime soon.
3125  Economy / Speculation / Re: How long will the bear market last? on: June 28, 2018, 03:26:15 PM
To me, I think it will end soon. I see it ending when all sells have been exhausted and people are no longer interested in dumping their holdings. It seems we are getting to that point. Sell offs are reducing and prices are just swinging around a particular stagnant value.

Well everyone's hoping that it does turn around soon since many are in deep losses already. Though even if the weak hands have been shaken off mostly, the big whales can still prolong this bear market. Manipulations are something that we little ones can't do anything about.
3126  Economy / Economics / Re: Is time too late on: June 28, 2018, 03:22:49 PM
i just check old posts in Currency exchange and Found how bitcoin was so cheap at 2011
I think while cryptocurrencies are still breathing, the time is not too late. Because you can still enter this market and have your business here, maybe it would be harder than a year ago, but easier than 5 years ago.
right, now the price is in big discount and we can buy it as much, but have to wait for the next few years if you want maximum profit. besides that prepare mentally for that matter

Same as with any other investments. You don't expect to get your roi and your profit in a short time. At the moment, many would say that it's a good time to buy and it probably is if you've seen the growth of btc one year ago. It does have the potential to go to the moon in a snap of a finger.
3127  Economy / Economics / Re: Long term argument for bitcoin on: June 28, 2018, 03:20:11 PM
Hello,

Most of you are confident with the long term for Bitcoin. Yet some altcoins has the same features so why are you so confident about bitcoin and not about litecoin instead?

I compared them and approximatevily the same assets!
The only difference is that bitcoin was the first, is it that important?

The advantage of Bitcoin as become the first crypto currency is a fact in which if Bitcoin did not founded and created then probably there is no crypto currency investment will exist. Bitcoin already build a foundation of trust among the people as most promising investment in which it doesn't need a commodity just to be promoted and advertise unlike the other coins specially Litecoin that it will need to be promoted just to attract more investors.

Being the first is important since bitcoin will always be known to pioneer a market that will be the future of how we make transactions. People know bitcoin more than blockchain or cryptocurrencies and popularity is powerful enough to put all other coins with better features beneath btc.
3128  Economy / Economics / Re: Why all people moan about the price of bitcoin? on: June 28, 2018, 03:03:08 PM
because they are unusual with bitcoin prices that can now be said to start going down, they just want bitcoin prices to continue to soar. I also want the bitcoin price to continue to soar but what can I do, so maybe this time it takes extra patience to deal with it.

Well you can't help it when you see your money drop drastically in value in a couple of months. Even long term hodlers would let out a sigh seeing this market though the difference is, they don't panic because of a long term target.
3129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin, the highest fall in the year 2018 on: June 28, 2018, 03:00:40 PM
Bitcoin prices have never been so low this year. Prices were down to 5,826.41$ (Jun 24 2018 16:04:00 UTC). Many advisers say that at the end of the year it will hit 30,000$. The market is seeing more than the fall from the price rise. Imagine when the speculation will end?

If you are going to look at the past, most of the people or speculations are saying that bitcoins will go down and just die but still it managed to reach $19k dollar before the year ends so all we need today is just trust and belief.

maybe if we can learn from the history, bitcoin getting experience to the fallen in the Mt.Gox and it makes the price is down too deep, I mean it's really deep because, in that time, bitcoin reach $200-$300 per 1 bitcoin. and after that moment, bitcoin just stays in that level for a long time. and in 2015 (if I am not mistaken), the price starts to increase again and like what we see, the last year is the highest price for bitcoin. so, actually, we are still in the highest price if we take a look at the history and I think the price can increase more in the future.
Bitcoin  is still at highest rank in coinmarket and even if the price value has a great fall this 2018, but it is still in the average condition , so we can still trust the bitcoin and confident that price value will be recovering soon.

I think the difference between now and then is that more people are already aware of btc because it's all over the news when it was pumping last december. And people also had a first hand glimpse of how volatile the market can be with the correction. Curiosity isn't going to be the same as 2014 or 2015 and people who don't research and just listen to the news will be wary of making investments.
3130  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it true that a whale moved 8k BTC? on: June 28, 2018, 02:55:58 PM
Hello,
I heard that there is a whale that moved 8k BTC to an exchange and that what caused the price to go down in addition of Stop-Losses being triggered.Is that true?What do you think? If it's true I consider it to be a big problem as we clearly see that whales manipulate the market easily which is harmful.

The prediction is still no assurance that it will move to $8000 because the market today is still continue to decline and the feedback from many people is still negative.


It's not a hidden fact that this market can be manipulated by whales so there's no surprise in that. It's always been like that and we small fishes can't really do anything but just react in our small ways.
3131  Economy / Economics / Re: A cryptocurrency with volatility can't be used as money on: June 28, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
Every commodities always have high volatile in their price. Bitcoin right now like commodities and its like a gold or silver. Its store of value and i think it can be used as currency as long merchant accepting bitcoin and government issuing regulation on it
This volatility will end one day because we believe that bitcoin will be the future currency in the world and the whole people will use only bitcoin as their regular currency. Then nobody will think of the price of bitcoin in any other currency of the world. All this is for the time being and you are right that with this volatility no crypto is usable in markets.
The cryptocurrency market is flourishing and has a bright future ahead. The trading volume of prominent cryptocurrency is really high and is gradually increasing. It won’t come as a surprise if one day one of the cryptocurrencies turns out to be a global currency and be widely used for business.
- I do not think it has a bright future, the current situation does not seem to fit with what you say, the crypto market is experiencing a major storm and the whole market almost plummeted to deep bottom, the signal of recovery is very flickering and unstable. So if one day there is a cryptocurrency become legalized and widely used, I really do not have the courage to use, I was so scared when I woke up in the morning, what I saw was a long red pillar showing on the graph of the market, the range of volatility is too large, can not use as money

Though i agree that at the current state of things, bitcoin's volatility would make it really hard to be used as money for everyday transactions. But i don't agree that bitcoin doesn't have a bright future based on what's happening right now. Bitcoin's been through a lot in it's young lifetime and what we're seeing is just a phase. Recovery is inevitable whether you believe it or not
3132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Curiosity of bitcoin prices in the future on: June 28, 2018, 02:35:36 PM
bitcoin price expectation for this year end is 25000 dollars to 50 thousand dollars these predictions  are said by billionaires and techinal analysts hopefully bitcoin create new trends in market
Those fu*king billionaires that you are saying is just making positivd things about bitcoin so many investors will trust and put their money still for a chance of earning,but the truth is thise manipulators are making this as a trap for their money to be talen by them

 Well i have to agree. At this rate? I think a new all time high would be hard to hit, what more to double the current all time high for 50k? We should keep things modest here to avoid getting ourselves upset if the end price this year is way below our expectations
3133  Economy / Economics / Re: When will people feel comfortable using BTC ? on: June 28, 2018, 02:33:25 PM
I think if everything would not fall in 3 months, then maybe in the year we will have the possibility to use bitcoin with comforts. Because we have all the things needed for that, the blockchain the applications and all that stuff.

As long as bitcoin is as volatile as it is right now, it's largely going to be an investment and treated as am asset. Of course some are already using it for transactions but for mass adoption, you wouldn't have confidence if the price is changing drastically every now and then right?
3134  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency is a trending topic all over the world? on: June 28, 2018, 02:31:35 PM
Of course. There will always be new people learn about cryptocurrency everyday. Wether you like it or not, cryptocurrency is spreading around the world and get more and more famous every time. Though there are party that disagree about crypto but many people interested in it.
people being more interested while much mass media talk about it.especially about crypto banning in most of country.this make more people being curious and finally find out about it.some if them maybe invest in small amount on it.

Trending probably for the negative reasons. This year's mostly been downward movements and this year also is when more people got to know this market because of the december run. Imagine what they're thinking seeing the huge decline in value.
3135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin recovering ? on: June 28, 2018, 02:29:44 PM
I don't know what about the previous June market, but this June market is not of my dreams. So I can only hope that we can reach December 2017, and then everybody would be good. Also about the Ethereum Smiley

Lol. You're looking to disappoint yourself dude if you're hoping for another run like december 2017 because that's the least likely to happen if you base it on this correction that happening for half the year already. I think it's logical to expect that there won't be any new all time highs this 2018
3136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where do you see Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies in ten years? on: June 27, 2018, 01:49:06 PM
As the Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency frenzy continues with more and more involvement by the world populace, where do you see Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in the next ten years?

Well i think it's going to be different from what it is now. 10 years is a long time and enough for the market and coins to evolve. Bitcoin may not even be the top coin if it's still relevant at that time. I'm sure one alt will break away in the future, probably enough to unseat btc
3137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: June 27, 2018, 01:46:11 PM
See? It was James who became the MVP in this era.... James Harden! Not Lebron! Perhaps Lebron will win the best puncher of the year... Grin

A lot of people thought that it will be Lebron James with a great performance he did in the EC Playoffs and ECF and in the Finals. James Harden just had a great performance this season and I agree that there are some times that he did not do well. Yet I am still here, waiting to what will happen to the next seasons with a lot of great rookies on each teams.
I'm not a Cavs fan but I'm expecting Lebron will get the MVP. I'm not saying Harden doesn't deserve it because he also did well and work hard for it. It's just Lebron deserved it more for me and I guess others also have the same expextation.

Well both harden and james basically deserved the award though among winners, victor oladipo winning most improved was the only one i got right. I think donnovan mitchell and brad stevens were going to win their respective lines but hey, it's been a good season for all fans so i'm not complaining.

Lebron is born be a losser. No matter how he played someone will overcome him. Harden put the Rockets in the 1st rank, Cavs 4th!?? Statistically Harden leads. KD beat him in the finals 4-0!!

Why the hate dude? Whichever way you put it, bron is a great player. 3-6 in the finals is still 3 championships none the less. And the string of finals appearances tells a whole lot why he's in the discussion for greatest of all time. I'm not a bron fan but it's not hard to see he's made a lot of things happen for his team if you remove the hate
3138  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC 'exhausted' at $6k - 'bottoming process' could sink crypto to $4k on: June 27, 2018, 01:40:12 PM
This news may share some investors out there. Many believes that the price will not get this low. Let’s see if the price really drops like this in future .

Well i've seen a lot saying the price will go around 3k so saying the bottom could be 4k is a little bit conservative. Too bad for the people who can't hold for a longer time. Be ready to see a more bloody market.
3139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt. Gox: Bitcoin’s Dark Chapter Ends With a Doorway to $1 Billion in Refunds on: June 27, 2018, 01:37:17 PM
Well that's good news for the people receiving their btcs back and i'm happy for them that they'll get btc's instead of monetary equivalents from 4years ago. It was probably worth the wait for most of them. This market isn't being moving upward by any positive news considering that mt.gox issue has been cleared.
3140  Economy / Speculation / Re: MtGox Trustee Halts Bitcoin Sell-Offs on: June 27, 2018, 01:30:27 PM
This is obviously good news. That Kobayashi bastard was dumping coins every X time and creating these big red candles. It was ridiculous enough to do it on some exchange (I think Kraken) instead of OTC as they should.

What is extra ridiculous is the fact that they had to dump the price first to realize creditors just wanted their BTC back, not their money in fiat, because that is unfair for both thet people that bought BTC way cheaper back then and now should be up big time, and unfair for current holders which have suffered this massive selloff. So first they crush the price and then they give them back their BTC, so stupid.

Anyway, until every last creditor has recovered their BTC I will not consider it a victory, but it's definitely better than the constant FUD of Kobayashi dumping another bunch of BTC.

Im absolutely agree. I cant understand why this bastard not seat in prison?? He stolen money and now was selling BTC and dumping price and even earned billions. They stolen money in BTC and must return in BTC as well, not in fiat by 2014y rate.

That probably will be felt after the bitcoins are distributed to the recipients next year. And let's hope most of them are intending to keep their bitcoins since they should be well in profit already and could sell off in bulk hurting the market further
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