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3161  Other / Meta / Re: Should we put a merit/post ratio? Like torrent site on: January 15, 2019, 10:40:02 AM
I asked sometime ago for another new "score" which calculates together the air-doped merit, received merit, post count, deleted messages and activity.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4603181.msg41553497#msg41553497
Nothing new there...
3162  Other / Meta / Re: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images on: January 15, 2019, 10:25:35 AM
Btw the natural member means Member or Full member?

It is only Member.

The price will be fixed in bitcoins so imagine what will happen when we enter a bull market again.
3163  Other / Meta / Re: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images on: January 15, 2019, 09:02:13 AM
Just an update from theymos :

Quote
The copper membership price will increase by about 300% around Friday.

It's time to buy now Cheesy
3164  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 14, 2019, 04:16:04 PM
I'm honoured and surprised that I have become a DT1. Thank you for the promotion.

You are not the only one surprised here, now I ended up on DT1 if that's not a mistake, of course.
This is more than unexpected. I'll be very careful with my further trust/feedback judgements.
3165  Other / Meta / Re: Report plagiarism (copy/pasting) here. Calling for Mod action: please permban on: January 14, 2019, 02:55:14 PM
User gero2018 case of plagiarsim > BANNED

Original >
The holy grail of blockchain based digital consulting
great idea guys
awesome features

Copy-paste >
The holy grail of blockchain based digital consulting
great idea guys

Archived > https://archive.fo/z9C8t
3166  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 14, 2019, 01:43:16 PM
Relatively new users put in their trust list those who have interactions with.
I just started my list and it's far from being ready, so I've added those whom I know well and I feel OK to add them. Looking through the other people's (DTs) lists, I see users I never heard of, or never saw ( or at least remembered with something) so they are quite unknown to me. I'll share some free time to check them, but this is a long term process.

I'm sure I'm not the only one in this situation. Regarding SaltySpitoon I've crossed some of his posts, but I'm not so familiar with the user.
 
3167  Other / Meta / Re: Plagiarism as a result of cultural differences on: January 14, 2019, 01:35:23 PM
@DdmrDdmr
I asked long ago about the possibility to have multiple owners of one thread, but I haven't heard since. We don't have a local section, only a thread in the other languages and the OP is a newbie with 2 posts and last active back in march 2012. I thought since this is our official thread, it could be changed an updated a if someone share the ownership with the OP.
It can be a solution in your case too.
3168  Other / Meta / Re: All the merit received by theymos to be distributed among the Merit Sources? on: January 14, 2019, 12:18:45 PM
OK, let's close the subject then , I assume that my merit I've sent to him will be redistributed one day to those who deserve.
I still see him as Administrator rather then a regular user, so admiration for the grate work he has done and still doing, I'll continue meriting him when I feel those posts need to stand out.
3169  Other / Meta / Re: All the merit received by theymos to be distributed among the Merit Sources? on: January 14, 2019, 11:35:53 AM
There isn't a shortage of SMerit to award, just a shortage of post to receive it. Even if Theymos controls the system, he is still a part of it, and he awards sMerit as he sees fit based on his own evaluation of a post.
OK, I agree that he is a member of the system like we are, but he is a bit more extraordinary.
Sources gives merit to the users , those users send merit to Theymos, then the sMerit generated are hoarded . The total circulation of merit is decreased because those end up in the smerit "pit".
I think theymos is also a merit source together with his alt account so he distributes merit too.  

When I'm meriting someone I know that the smerit I generated is in circulation and other users will benefit from it. I sometimes merit Theymos too so I'm hoping those merit to be in a good use later.

So all we have to hope for then are more fresh quality members Smiley



OK, I agree with you with you guys, maybe it's because I did't see theymos as a regular user here, more like an admin and he has the full control over the system + in addition some sources were complain about shortage of source merit so this is came as an idea as I said before.
3170  Other / Meta / All the merit received by theymos to be distributed among the Merit Sources? on: January 14, 2019, 11:03:20 AM
I don't know if theymos will like the idea but big part of the circulating merit goes to him and then this smerit is just "lost" or fairly distributed to other members, in addition he can generate as much smerit as he wants so basically he doesn't need it.
... and he is crossing his own suggestion.

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You have received a total of ... merit. This is what determines your forum rank. You typically cannot lose this merit. You have ... sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people. There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.

Therefor I have a suggestion.
All the merit that he got ( or gonna get in the future) and he is not gonna use to be distributed among the merit sources based on their source ratios.

It can be done on 3-months or 6-months basis for example, the amount for the previous 3/6 months.
If the merit is not enough for all the sources can be done once a year like a Christmas gift Cheesy

It's just an idea Wink
3171  Other / Meta / Re: Reporter Statistics on: January 14, 2019, 10:46:46 AM
Sorry for the late update on some Report Statistics for the last Month December !

Here it is:



OMG, I'll never be able to reach you! How many you report per day??
3172  Other / Meta / Re: How many topics will Jet Cash start in Meta in 2019? on: January 13, 2019, 09:56:19 AM
I think it's time for new useless stats Smiley
Top topic starters per section Cheesy

BTW,The off-topic section will be interesting to monitor.
3173  Economy / Securities / Re: LoyceV's Legendary 10 Month 10 Person 10 Altcoin Investment Roller Coaster #2 on: January 12, 2019, 08:21:11 PM
I thought that Monero was a good choice back then, now after the kidnapping here in Norway and the ransome that should be paid in XMR, I don't think the future for this cryptocurrency is so bright in the next couple of months.
It had a good start in the begging for the first few months but now...
3174  Economy / Reputation / Re: Add ~Lauda & ~Zin-Zang to your Default Trust Settings on: January 11, 2019, 07:21:50 PM

cliff note version:
Lauda is a known extortionist, was actually kicked off the btctalk staff, steals money from people dumb enough to use her escrow service.
red tags anyone, that disagrees with her, abusing her DT status, which was recently reinstated by theymos after other DT members kicked her out.
That is the gist of it.
Cool

short post  > check
solid evidence > missing

-----------------------------------

An active outspoken cat user. Used to be a moderator and a DT2 member but got entangled into what was either a sting operation gone bad or an extortion scheme, depending on who you listen to, and you probably don't want to listen to the likes of Zin-Zang too much. So Lauda got booted from moderators and from DT2 but now came back into DT1. The guy/girl thing is still an open question.

anybody came up with a solid proof against him/her ? if yes, why is he/she still around after a "proven extortion" , if no , what is everybody whining about?

i expect the answer to be too complicated



You need to get a bit more deeper to the sh!t to be part of this crazy family here (the forum).
Let me help you with one thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4736673.msg42776661#msg42776661
Thanks to xtraelv for the great work and pugman for the extra info.
After reading all the cases you will be a bit more oriented in the mess of threads. The whole forums is like political parliament, full of parties, dirty little tricks, black PR, paid shit-trowers but there is one exception - there are many good guys around here too, you wont find them in politics.  
3175  Economy / Reputation / Re: Being Part Of The League on: January 11, 2019, 06:51:17 PM
Actually getting to be a legendary in your own right has suddenly become a challenge for me. You think that you don't care, but suddenly as you get close, it surfaces from your subconscious.

I think that Theymos needs to create a 5,000 merit rank, or something that will be a real challenge. Smiley

Those were the times when everything was new and people were exited about it. It was tempting to rank up with the new "quality control", I guess it was the same feeling for you too (just multiplied by 5) , as something impossible, but when the things got more settled and you start getting merit slowly drop by drop things change, and you see that yeah, it's not that impossible, just takes time.

Theymos soon will reach 5000 so I doubt to put the level so low, I guess something like 10 000 is more interesting, don't forget that to reach activity for Legendary takes max 1030 days which is almost 3 years. So the new rank could be achieved after 3 more years of activity something like 2060 which is a bit more that 5 and a halve years!!
Some extra thoughts :

At the end of the month we gonna celebrate 1 year of merit system. so quick stats :
9 people have earned more than 1000 merit ( and there is a big change this list to grow bigger before the end of the month)

theymos               3483   Administrator
satoshi 💤                    1529   Founder
LoyceV                   1519   Legendary
DdmrDdmr           1473   Sr. Member
The Pharmacist        1286   Legendary
hilariousetc       1259   Legendary
suchmoon               1256   Legendary
micgoossens       1252   Hero Member
Last of the V8s       1198   Legendary
-------------------------------------
o_e_l_e_o    989   

--info stolen from BPIP --

In the beginning the merit sources were just a few ( now you are one of them) and more source merit are generated. I guess more sources will be added later on, respectively more merit to the total pool Smiley

If for 1 year man can collect 1500 merit (i exclude theymos for obvious reason) so in 3 years wont be a problem man to have 5500 merit (don't forget the initial 1000 airdrop). I'm sure users like LoyceV will reach the new rank without problem, and they sure deserve it.
So putting something like 10 000 will be more changing for sure.  I don't think I'll reach it (well I never thought that i'm gonna reach Hero too but now I'm waiting only for activity) at all.
3176  Economy / Reputation / Re: Being Part Of The League on: January 11, 2019, 03:59:56 PM
I don't see/hear any more those mumbling how difficult is to rank up, how nobody will ever rank up again because of the shitty merit system.

Congrats, this is the most difficult step to take from member to full member,later is easier, but you don't care so much anymore Smiley
3177  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 11, 2019, 11:34:52 AM
@LoyceV, @iasenko, @suchmoon

I can see where you are coming from regarding different depths and also different lists for trusting and voting, and I personally would also like to have this kind of control over my own trust list. However, trust is already very poorly understood by the majority of forum members, not understanding the difference between feedback and trust, not understanding how and why some feedback is trusted and some is not, not understanding trust depth, not understanding custom trust lists or default trust, etc, etc.

Anything that adds even more complexity to this system should be approached very cautiously, I would think.

Well that's why is the Default Trust is applied to e everyone at the beginning.
Big part of the people don't use the trust functions at all.
They only hear about it when they don't receive their sig. campaign stakes after being tagged. Cheesy
No need to talk about the trust lists at all.

Newbies often don't know who to trust and get confused, like I was in the beginning.  If you read around the forum you can see some examples like Lauda, some said the best mod ever great scam catcher and many more superlatives, other said that she is extortionist and third part said that she and other members were hunting for a scammer and all this was setup etc. You just get lost...
Same happen with Vod, I've read that he was accused to be a pedofile by some people. Again no sold proof for that..
Then you hear about QuickSeller and all the stories there and again just rumors, same like in the politics....but c'mon how can newbie get oriented in this situation and add someone to his trust list???  
There are many more examples with established usres here...
Then why Krogo added all the people he traded with in his trust list?? Because he had a confirmation by his trades that those people have no scam behaviour and he can trust them, even though the lists are not made for this kind of trust but he learned that only after he ended up on the DT1 list.

So if you are not familiar with the ecosystem and what is going on under the veil, you are just blindfolded when choosing a side and automatically winning some enemies ...

I just recently begun to use the trust list, so I'm far from being an expert but what I know is that I add people in my list with whom I had interactions  or have observation on their behaviour.
Basically I don't trust anyone here,why?? The simple example is MagicalTux.


Back to the topic, keeping it simple won't make all the people understand it anyway.
But some extra options will help those who know what they do.
3178  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 11, 2019, 08:53:55 AM
Not sure if this will solve your problem, but I've gone ahead and changed to depth 1 since setting my own custom list. Allows you to have "subordinates" without having some of the stranger ratings.
That takes away the current DT2, so it's not what I'm looking for. I would like to see depth 1 for "my subordinates", while seeing depth 2 for the subordinates of DT1.
Then the only solution is to create two accounts and add all your subordinates in the trust list of second account, then add the second account in the trust list of the first account and then add this account you your current list together with the DefautTrust account Smiley
That would work, except for when you're on DT1 and want to add users to DT2.
The other solution is theymos to implement custom Depth for every user you add on your list something like.
Code:
theymos  /default/
iasenko d1
LoyceV d2
Cyrus

You can have a default depth like now in the settings and custom ones for those you want to edit
3179  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 11, 2019, 08:20:54 AM
Not sure if this will solve your problem, but I've gone ahead and changed to depth 1 since setting my own custom list. Allows you to have "subordinates" without having some of the stranger ratings.
That takes away the current DT2, so it's not what I'm looking for. I would like to see depth 1 for "my subordinates", while seeing depth 2 for the subordinates of DT1.

Then the only solution is to create two accounts and add all your subordinates in the trust list of second account, then add the second account in the trust list of the first account and then add this account you your current list together with the DefautTrust account Smiley

With Depth 2 you gonna have the DT1 + DT2 and only Depth 1 of your Subordinates Cheesy
3180  Other / Meta / Re: [CLUB] The SpamBuster! Over 7000+ accounts reviewed : [23.11] on: January 10, 2019, 10:54:40 PM
So I hope these kinds of warnings are authorized on the forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5048831.msg49121886#msg49121886

These BXUNTY guys are replying to spam posts, instead of reporting them, like here and here or here - and this is only ONE campaign. They have many more... So they're constantly gratefully making use of spam to reply and bump their threads... Drives me crazy!

I am a little bit frustrated by the limitations of my rank though: can't post images, as you can see in my post - I tried to post OP's "NO SPAM" badge, but it didn't work out like it should've... Grin And I can post, PM and even report spam only every 360 seconds. Tongue

I don't want to become a spammer myself to get a higher Activity... Cool Cheesy

Hello man, and welcome. I just notice your posts here don't worry about the limitations, it just takes time. If you don't want to wait there is a paid membership which will reduce those limitations, you can find everything here >https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote
Otherwise you will need to wait until you rank up again to Jr. Member. or 30 activity (approx 30 days ), you already have the required merit.
No need to be a spammer, there are so many things going on in the forum just browse around and have fun Smiley
If you need any info you can always ask.
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