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3161  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit from higher ranked members on: February 26, 2018, 11:57:51 AM
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it's really a luxury to send total of 23 merits 21 times to only one person.
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...receive merits from each others for infinite times. Someone with having a bad intention can easily take this advantage.

You seem to have forgotten that merit between two people cannot be given infinitely, because merit is scarce.

- Is that a trick you apply when you encounter someone... "You seem to have forgotten", "I understand that you are not capable of such posts - maybe one day" and etc...?

I guess we both know what we are doing here. I'm not out to change the world nor to wreck it either.

Let's continue with your given numbers... You both have now 15 Merits each and 2.5 sMerits. You can giveaway 2 each. That makes gaining 1 more sMerits each. So again you can giveaway 1 each and now you both again get 0.5 sMerit each. That adds up with the leftover 0.5 sMerit and make 1 sMerit again. Now give each other this 1 sMerit. What do you have now...

19 Merits and 0 sMerits each. Means your initial 10 Merits just turned into 19 merits.

Do you see from 5 sMerits each, you both were able to accumulate 9 more Merits each just because you wanted to exchange the merits with each others?
If you were not in exchange mood then you would be given your initial 5 sMerits to some random good posts and in return we don't know what would you get. This is how someone can manipulate merit system if two person decides to give merits each others to gain advantage.

But this is not my point here and you also clearly know what I wanted to say when I said, "...receive merits from each others for infinite times".
You are just trying to exaggerate the topic.

We all know you and nullius are making good post. I never ignored it. What I said is this, "...no doubt that nullius has a good biased mind for alia".

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There's no trade-off happening which you cannot see - ~ Get your tinfoil hat off.
- Don't bring something that no one is asking for.

3162  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit on: February 26, 2018, 10:30:05 AM
- Don't you think I should receive merits for my contents not to make you happy since you are merit sender?.
If you want merit, you'll have to make posts that are worthy of merit, same as everybody else. You won't receive it as a favour, at least not from me.


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No, I am literally saying the exact opposite

Pay close attention, we both are saying the same thing.  Grin

We both are on the same page.

In fact we all are on the same page no doubt but we always can not take good decision, it's in our nature.  Smiley
3163  Other / Meta / Re: Hello on: February 25, 2018, 08:14:43 PM

Hello my dear friend.
Needs some help please
How can I attached photos to a New Topic ?
I have try a few Options , but unfortunately unsuccessful...
Thank you for your time,
Mark

Upload a photo on free picture hosting sites like photobucket

Get the URL of the picture

And then find this button https://prnt.sc/ijmwqk

You will see something like this
Code:
[img][/img]

Now say this is your Img URL http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q728/digitaltrainees/SEO-1-min-750x350_zps85y0vyid.png

This is what you do...

Code:
[img]http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q728/digitaltrainees/SEO-1-min-750x350_zps85y0vyid.png[/img]

Did you noticed the Img URL in between
Code:
[img]
 and
Code:
[/img]
?

Here how you will see it....


And you are done!  Grin
3164  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A couple questions about trading BTC/BCC on: February 25, 2018, 07:39:12 PM
1) Can a person detect if a bitcoin still has bitcoin cash in it?

Yes because it has all the records before the chain split.

2) Assuming 1 is yes, is a bitcoin with the cash still in it worth more trading than a bitcoin without?

After the split BTC and BCH are two different entities. Think BCH just an alt.
3165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Quinlan Associates: Bitcoin Price will Crash to $1,800 in 2018 on: February 25, 2018, 07:26:08 PM
Who are these people? I’ve never heard of them before.
How come! You don't know them!? They are Wall Street consultancy firm Quinlan Associates. The big bold name says everything.

Ops - me too never heard of them  Grin

However, I can make a guess.

These are the same people who are telling it's a bubble, it's a bubble  Grin This is what I mean
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In their 156-page report titled “Fool’s Gold: Unearthing The World of Cryptocurrency,” the firm comprehensively stated that the current bitcoin price above $14,000 is a bubble and does not reflect the true worth of the cryptocurrency

These are the people like Warren Buffett "In terms of cryptocurrencies generally I can say almost with certainty that they will come to a bad ending. Now when It happens or how or anything else I don't know" In reply of the interviewers he also said, "I get enough trouble with the things I know something about why in the world should I take a long or short position with something that I don't know anything about..."

I do not blame him, he is an old school. He should not know anything about even how to check an email.

I think I just realised something about these people...

These people are one step ahead then Warren Buffett coz they know the price and the year but Warren Buffett still do not know when it will happen.
3166  Other / Off-topic / Re: Merit System Upgrade on: February 25, 2018, 06:23:03 PM
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New members, Newbies, Jr Members and Members don’t need any merit. They don’t have enough post history to judge so I won’t be helping them.
- I understand this completely however I think if you take a little time and give a glance on my history then you won't be disappointed. Sometimes rank should not be the factor to judge someone besides merit system came to reward good post not just for certain level of members. Hope you agree. My goal is here to expose my contents to people who has sMerit to give if they want to.

That being said here are few of my posts ( 10-20 posts that you have asked for)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3017678.0 what I am trying is to point out the merit system needs to be improved.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3013604.0 may be this is not a good topic to discuss on the forum but I wanted a place where we do not offence each others
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2999382.0 trying to learn what the community has to say about the trend
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2873398.0 I wanted to express my constructive frustration
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2870428.0 little afford to give idea
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2868408.0 to support bitcoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2858083.0 again supporting bitcoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2834137.0 when I am thinking about exchanges
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2816902.0 supporting cryto industry from my own experience
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2798029.0 supporting bitcoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3013561.msg31055045#msg31055045 I guess I was able to answer the user to the point

I would love to give you more links but I think you will get the idea once you will go through the contents.

I am ready for your questions to answers.

I am positive having a reply from you.

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This is where I stand after publishing this comment
3167  Other / Meta / Re: 3 Merit Stat After a Month of Merit on: February 25, 2018, 05:42:10 PM
Nice and crispy info, I am just curious to know the data source. Where did you get the data?  Shocked
3168  Other / Meta / Re: A newbie's question! on: February 25, 2018, 05:33:29 PM
I'm new to this forum! Who can tell me for what violations here can banned my account?

Go to this page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0 then try to read first six sticky posts (if not possible all then just read one or two main thread). You will be able to learn most of the rules about the forum from there.

Stay away from spamming others post like one or two words answers, always post relevant contents. For the time being you should be fine. And as the days go you will learn more.

Hope it helps a little.
3169  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit from higher ranked members on: February 25, 2018, 04:14:19 PM

Did you just call yourself a merit whore?



- nah! How many times I have to confess that I meant this   Roll Eyes
3170  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit on: February 25, 2018, 04:04:19 PM
I found nothing with TMAN, Foxpup
I'm not really sure what you expected to find

I really did not expect to find anything at all. To me, it was just a pattern when I saw you have sent 6 times merit to the same person https://prnt.sc/ijjfox

I really do not expect to find anything from nullius as well. It's just 21 times sending merits to the same person seems odd to me on top of it receiving 20 merits from the same person you gave 23 merits can bring up two reasons...

1. You are intentionally exchanging merits to each others. More correctly I will say, you are liking each others contents so much that you took this merit points to favour each others. There are other people on the forum giving their best deserves your sMerits.
2. Both account owned by same person. I don't think this will be really the real case coz both alia and nullius are creating good contents. For one person it's really impossible managing multiple accounts with providing good contents.

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I also doubt you'll get very far by sucking up to the top merit senders (I can tell you it won't get you anywhere with me).

- This is really what I do not like about merit system. You are literally saying receiving merit for my content is favour from you! Don't you think I should receive merits for my contents not to make you happy since you are merit sender? This is abusive in my opinion.

By the way it's a good advice though, I wish I hear you.  Smiley
3171  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit from higher ranked members on: February 25, 2018, 03:01:59 PM
I'll do it, if you ignore me Cheesy
I just like seeing a Newbie who posts decent posts. I've reported many bad posts and got many accounts banned, it's very nice to find new users who's posts are worth reading. I give Merit to reward them and improve the forum at the same time.

My bad I ignored you  Grin

I have no problem of someone giving and receiving merits certainly merits and sMerits are for giving and receiving. The sole purpose of this merit system is to credit the content creator and help the community to build stronger. Since we have limited merit source and infinite number of lower ranked members, it's really a luxury to send total of 23 merits 21 times to only one person.

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Category 2: Questioned!!!
1 Merit for writing only one line!
A long post doesn't mean it's a good post.
- Yes I know it obviously.

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the post was a very good humorous post which immediately made nullius a fan of alia's. Then on top of it when alia send 16 merits ( https://prnt.sc/ijgfqn ) to nullius on the same day just in few mins difference (February 16, 2018, 11:00:10 PM) then no doubt that nullius has a good biased mind for alia.
I think you're overthinking this. To receive Merit, you need two things: quality posts, and someone with sMerit has to read your posts. Both nullius and alia have good posts, they both have sMerit to give, and they're reading each other's posts because they like reading them.
-I guess I need to rephrase it then ...  Grin
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Keep good relationship with higher ranked members, try your best to post some quality posts and always remember those higher ranked members, sMerits will come on your way.
Keep good relationship with someone has sMerit and post quality.


I guess for two persons, giving merits should have a limit and also receiving merits should have a limit or the same two user can give and receive merits from each others for infinite times. Someone with having a bad intention can easily take this advantage.

I also think sending sMerit in one transaction (one go i mean) should have a limit. I saw people sent 50 sMerits. This is just too much. May be 1 or 2 sMerit should be good for a post no matter if thats even the worlds  best content.

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That's BlackJack, right?
-Yes it is  Tongue The user writes really too long and has super energy.
3172  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit from higher ranked members on: February 25, 2018, 02:25:02 PM
- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

just documenting that you admitted to attempted to pass a virus, and begging for merit.......
- I already explained it in here. I think you missed it.

Not sure about the higher ups, but since the first link is to COINHIVE I ain't to happy with you!  (I did not click through)

just documenting that you admitted to attempted to pass a virus, and begging for merit.......
- Not virus to be honest. It was coinhive a kind of link shortener (like google URL shortener) which helps to min XMR from the shorted link when user visits your targeted link. I already said I removed it.
3173  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit from higher ranked members on: February 25, 2018, 02:18:09 PM


Extra ordinary finding!!!
I hope it's not what I am thinking  Grin
However this is a great coincidence  Shocked
3174  Other / Meta / Re: Joel_Jantsen's Merit Distribution Thread (Newbies Welcome) on: February 25, 2018, 02:13:28 PM
1.Finding Alt accounts on the forum and reporting them in the suggested format in this thread: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III

Just sent an alt account information Check here

The account claims s/he has an original account and a merit source and from the reported account s/he is trying to express him/her  Shocked
3175  Economy / Reputation / Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2018 Q1) on: February 25, 2018, 02:08:59 PM
Accounts Connected: Not sure about the other account

MeritSourceLife

Proof:
This thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3015543.0

Clearly stated that's an alt account https://prnt.sc/iji8yb

Not sure about the motive of this account s/he created. Why would someone need an alt account to express themselves. It can be easily said from the original account.

Funny thing is the account already received a merit even knowing it's not an original account. This is just misuse of merit, space, energy of the forum.
3176  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit from higher ranked members on: February 25, 2018, 01:33:44 PM
- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

No, if you think begging is the way to receive merit, then you have completely misunderstood its point.
- I guess you misjudged my humour  Grin I was teasing you when I said so. I completely understand why the merit system introduced at the first place and I am doing my best to play according to the game.
3177  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit from higher ranked members on: February 25, 2018, 01:30:18 PM
1. Believe it or not, it is actually possible for a one-sentence post to be meritorious. I understand that you are not capable of such posts - maybe one day.
- I believe you. Sometimes one-word could be meritorious if that hits the cause. By the way how come you say I am not capable of such posts LOL. Ain't trying to prove too much?

2. Your Coinhive link is a bit fucked up, it made my laptop heat up a lot. Please remove that, as it is 100x more unethical than what you accuse me of doing.
-Apology and removed it already. So you are saying you are doing unethical stuffs? Don't get me wrong, you are not doing anything unethical you are just taking the benefit of the system in a smart way.

3. nullius is hardly a "higher ranked" member, he's super new to the forum, as am I.
-Yes he is. He is a good essay writer too. Somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing a long essay then you are a good writer and you deserve merits.

4. Humans are subjective creatures - I am not a merit source, I am a person, so if I like a post and find it to be informative/well-written, I will award it merit. I find most of nullius's posts to be both informative and well-written; a rarity on this forum.
- I have nothing to say for this 16 merits you sent https://prnt.sc/ijhtz4 (16! come on!! Didn't I say that somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing long essay then you are a good writer)

I suggest you start making quality posts (and stop trying to make money from link shorteners), and then you'll understand.
- Thank you for the advice I hope you will take some times and try to read some of my past posts. Again my apology for the link shortening which I already removed.
3178  Other / Meta / Re: This might work to earn Merit from higher ranked members on: February 25, 2018, 01:15:04 PM
Not sure about the higher ups, but since the first link is to COINHIVE I ain't to happy with you!  (I did not click through)

- sorry my bad, just removed it.

And your receiving of 4 points of merit, was for begging???:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2727730.msg27917341#msg27917341

Feel free to send me some merit, if you like this post  Cheesy

- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc
3179  Other / Meta / Re: Would you join this Merit Survey? on: February 25, 2018, 01:01:03 PM
Well for some reason the poll won't let me vote (guess newbie restriction?) but it would be option 5 for me.

I ghost far more than posting but have noticed that the quality has improved remarkably, it's not perfect just yet and there's still a good amount of spam but it's so so much better and I feel moderators can get much more of a handle on things now. For this I am very happy, I'll start to post more now this is the case.

The other side of it is that many quality posts are not receiving merit and I think that comes down to there not being enough merit around. It is easy to say that users are not spending their merit, but that's very difficult to fix. Adding more and more merit sources will only improve things.

Theymos said that he wants merit not to be a limiting factor on account growth, which should mean that in theory a good post gets 1 or more merit. I don't know but I imagine very few people are averaging more than 1 merit per post right now.

Ultimately if we get more merit sources and have some higher authority who ensures that these merit sources are distributing merits fairly then merit will be a really great success.

It might be for the newbie restriction, I am not sure. You are really right on distributing merits fairly but I think for us human it's kind of impossible to make a decision without being biased. Merit system needs to be improvised so that it does not depend on human decision. Instead of we giving merit each others try to find out or develop a script that will scrape what you wrote then evaluate it then give you merit or whatever the point is for the quality of your writing. The funny thing is in this forum i guess most of the people do not even know what makes a good post. They have this picture that a good post should be a long essay  Tongue
3180  Other / Meta / Thin (!) strategy to earn more Merit - Drama Queen (aka alia) busted Finally!!! on: February 25, 2018, 12:35:42 PM
This is how I discovered it... I made a post yesterday on the meta section thought to provide some value for the forum. I get it, this was very poor of me. I was fucked up and out of my fucking mind or why the hell I would do that? Click here for the post.

Reply got so far...

https://prnt.sc/ijgmdk (I have the humour it's a joke, thanks, no heart feeling)
https://prnt.sc/ijgmzv (good one, thanks for the advice, appreciate it)
https://prnt.sc/ijgnfu (sorry if i ruined it, i am a dumb ass, please excuse me, yeah right!)
https://prnt.sc/ijgnxz (I guess you need a break as well)
https://prnt.sc/ijgozz (looks like I am sanctimonious prig  Shocked )
https://prnt.sc/ijgp8e (  Roll Eyes )
Then i received this comment ( Click here to read the full comment not just screenshot like above ) from nullius. I was surprised first to see the loooonggg essay then I read it full. well-done by the way for this long post and thank you for the changed title for me in your local language I guess. I figured out from google that it means this https://prnt.sc/ijgs65

I am not sure if this was really necessary or not. I started researching the account and found a lot of members really respect the account holder. I started to take the blame to myself thinking well, yeah leave it, I made a mistake writing the post at the first place. Then I saw this reply ( https://prnt.sc/ijgt6u ) from Alia

Now this struck me... Jr. Member, Activity: 42, Merit: 105, Posts: 350!!!

No doubt this account holder is giving everything for this forum. Account created on January 28, 2018. Not even one month and the account already made 350 post and earned 105 merit! Low ranked member like me, this account is an ideal account to research.

These are the merit source for this account

theymos11time
EcuaMobi11time
favours51time
iluvbitcoins11time
The Pharmacist42times
OgNasty11time
Rmcdermott92751time
Foxpup106times
TMAN162times
Tesorex21time
LoyceV33times
Hatcher61times
midvoc11time
Cyrus 21times
nullius2321times
pugman11time
suchmoon11time
finaleshot201611time
mjglqw11time
zikabra11time
aTriz11time
Oceat21time
crwth11time
Hydrogen11time
PoolMinor81time
SM2303199711time
mostkey21time
xIIImaL11time


So without any doubt I wanted to see the special connection with nullius, TMAN, Foxpup, PoolMinor, Hatcher, favours, Rmcdermott927 and The Pharmacist for alia since they have given 23, 16, 10, 8, 6, 5, 5, 4 sMerits respectively.

I was more interested to see whats going on with nullius, TMAN, Foxpup since they have given the sMerits 21, 2 and 6 times respectively (I ignored 3 times from LoyceV and 2 times from The Pharmacist coz it's too much to do).

I found nothing with TMAN, Foxpup but for nullius, this is what alia sent...
nullius205times

So when I found alia sent 20 sMerits to nullius and in return alia received 23 merits from nullius, I wanted to see the detail posts on those alia received merits from nullius. I categories them into 3 category.

Category 1: Perhaps worth getting merit
1 Merit for a good humorous post https://prnt.sc/ijfxuw
1 Merit for another good post https://prnt.sc/ijfyam
1 Merit for another may be good reply https://prnt.sc/ijfz9e
1 Merit for really good writing https://prnt.sc/ijfznh
1 Merit for another humorous reply https://prnt.sc/ijg32s
1 Merit for an average reply https://prnt.sc/ijg475
1 Merit (may be) for another average reply https://prnt.sc/ijg7v4
1 Merit for a really well done reply https://prnt.sc/ijg9r8
1 Merit may be a good reply https://prnt.sc/ijga7y ( Wait!!! Is this looking odd? https://prnt.sc/ijgbjo )
1 Merit for a good post (no doubt) https://prnt.sc/ijgc1i
1 Merit for an average reply https://prnt.sc/ijge98


Category 2: Questioned!!!
1 Merit for writing only one line! https://prnt.sc/ijfwkj
1 Merit for writing another line! https://prnt.sc/ijfypm
1 Merit for writing another few lines https://prnt.sc/ijg1qi
                          (The original post was alia's though but do you see merit from TMAN https://prnt.sc/ijg19c ? 6+10=16 merit)
2 Merit for another one line reply! https://prnt.sc/ijg4o8 By the way it was a reply of "nullius" post  Roll Eyes
2 Merit for another one line reply! https://prnt.sc/ijg5g1 I guess they already had so juicy conversation before this one line reply.
1 Merit, really nice post "Watch me gamble with your money, (possibly) naked!" (  Grin !!) https://prnt.sc/ijg719  
1 Merit for another one line reply! https://prnt.sc/ijg8ed Please give me a break
1 Merit again do doubt it raise question https://prnt.sc/ijg93h Am i missing something? See the thread title  Cheesy
1 Merit again for one line reply https://prnt.sc/ijgels please i really really need a break!  Angry



Category 3: Could not find the post so we really don't know what was there
1 Merit for a deleted post https://prnt.sc/ijg3oj


I guess I know the secret: On February 16, 2018, 10:57:08 PM ( https://prnt.sc/ijgg6i ) nullius first encountered alia's this post https://prnt.sc/ijfxuw
the post was a very good humorous post which immediately made nullius a fan of alia's. Then on top of it when alia send 16 merits ( https://prnt.sc/ijgfqn ) to nullius on the same day just in few mins difference (February 16, 2018, 11:00:10 PM) then no doubt that nullius has a good biased mind for alia.

This is what I learnt now after carefully watching alia's account. No doubt alia is doing a great job. The account holder knows his/her shit so account like this will keep receiving more merits.

Keep good relationship with higher ranked members, try your best to post some quality posts and always remember those higher ranked members, sMerits will come on your way.

PS: I guess i should forget about getting sMerits and thinking about getting ban from this forum after publishing this post  Grin
This post surely will upset some of the higher ranked members.

The merit system needs to be improved or the forum will suffer because of the biased activities of higher ranked members those have enormous amount of sMerits to favour others

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So I changed the title "Thin (!!!) strategy to earn more Merit" to "Thin (!) strategy to earn more Merit - Drama Queen (aka alia) busted Finally!!!"

I have spend almost last 24 hours to read only two posts on the forum. One about alia and another one about aTriz. Here I am thinking I have now a proven point to claim that I was right at the time of writing the original post.

After reading both posts above, it's obvious that alia was literally fooling everyone even, theymos. So in my OP if you get an impression about nullius giving alia merits for her (his, their or whatever doesn't even matter) so called relevant and high quality posts then it's obvious that nullius was just a victim like other especially aTriz.

The strategy from alia was really very simple. She (he, they etc) simply targeted few highly reputable members like aTriz, Lauda, TMAN, Foxpup and others, not to mention nullius, made a circle around them and started taking benefit of the human weakness (Trust).

Great job scam_detector  Grin

PS: I was in vacation since last 3rd March so I really do not have much update about the forum. I will move my focus after posting this thread.

If we carefully give sMerits each others and do not abuse it (some ideas are here) then merit system is really doing great work.

PS: Any idea how to remove a red trust since alia sent me a red trust without any actual evidence whatsoever.
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