We have another scam and another betting site run away with some good money and now we all will cry for some days and this thread will be buried and we are going for another scam
Yes, and the trend goes on, the same bitcoinlive bets will come back as coinlivebets , with litttle more incentives from the stolen coins, and everyone will run to him... Unfortunately, I feel that you are right. The same has happened with the cash books. They go under and open under a different brand. Some of the bitcoin books are run by cash book owners that stole our money. These crooks are entering the bitcoin market and it's very risky playing at new books. Many of the current books that are open will go under in the near future. |
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There were warning signs bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.0 for book ratings. Sorry to hear about those owed money from bitcoinlivebets. In case you are looking for new books here are some ratings: "A" rated booksAnonibet A (2011) "B"rated booksNitrogenSports B+ (2012) Betcoinsports B- (2013) Casinobitcoin B- (2013) "C" rated booksCloudbet C+ (2013) SBObitcoin C+ (2013) * DirectBet C (2013) Jetwin C- (2013) BetOWI C- (2014) * BetVIP C- (2014) "D" rated books Coindraft D+ (2014) Roadbet D+ (2012) Webetcoins D+ (2014) Gobetgo D+ (2014) Bitbm D "F" rated booksBetCas F Bitcoinsport F Bitcoinlivebets F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC NRDarkbet Betmoose Fairlay Cointeller Bitbook xbet.io Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports Predictious tdsports betxcp * longer accepting cash deposits Maximum grade based upon time in business: A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players |
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Also I do not recommend nitrogensports. Will reverse grade on bet. Rules written poorly.
What happened with this? I'll look into it. |
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do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...
he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...
I'm talking with Anonibet still trying to figure out everything. The only hang up is that I can't get player betting history without the player's approval. I sent a PM out to Anonitips hoping that he'll give me permission. Maybe someone can help me out some since I may have missed something. 1. Anonitips facebook page opened May 2011. 2. Anonibet opened November 2011 Why did he call himself Anonitips when Anonibet wasn't even open? Can you change your name on facebook and keep the same open date? When did he add www.anonibet.com to his facebook page? |
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I'll look in to Anonibet some more.
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Anonibet didn't scam anyone. They were all long time players at Anonibet. I looked into it.
In support of Jaybird, Nitrogen, Anonibet and Bitcoinlive bets were number 1,2 and 3 in poster votes until the recent allegations and stiff job by bitcoinlivebets. Peepsplace had bitcoinlivebets D- and predicted them to go under.
I've decided to leave your thread as it's intention was for DirectBet although you diverted the thread with your inane poll.
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Here's what DirectBet posts in my thread. Then he puts links to his thread. There are people who rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, and there are people who rate the people that rate Bitcoin Sportbooks. 71% think that Peeps Place does not have the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks because he is getting paid by Anonibet to rate them on top regardless of public opinion. What do you think ? Come and vote in our thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.1400 |
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bosmarie If you dont like Directbet then don't F***ing use it.. I'm tired reading your nuisance comment on DirectBet Thread, why dont you make your own thread.. I have a thread. DirectBet posts a lot of garbage in my thread daily. I played at DirectBet approximately one day per month if that. |
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DirectBet- If you take a look at the live lines at Betcoinsports, the layout is much better.
The bets that you complained about were not offered by Betcoinsports AT ALL. It doesn't matter how convenience it is to place bets there if there are no bets to place ! I don't mind the poll at all even if it is misguided with the wording that is used by DirectBet since he is wrong about business relationships.
Why is it misguided ? You admitted that certain books pay you to advertise and promote them. Currently two Bitcoin Sportbooks are advertising at www.PeepsPlace.com and they "happen" to be rated the top 2 in your ratings guide. So how is our poll question misguiding ? How would you like us to rephrase the question in the poll ? The ratings here at bitcointalk are not affected by by business relationships.
Currently, 73% thinks that your ratings are biased. The ratings come out. Then I give the ratings to Reagan. He then in turn makes a decision on what banners that he would accept to be up at peepsplace.com. Of course the top books are going to be the ones that are asked to advertise. When a book wants a banner up at peepsplace then we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. We also go to other cash forums and post in promotional threads. We will do interviews if asked and have articles published for advertising books. This has nothing to do with bitcointalk. Everyone here is already playing with bitcoins. We go after the cash players where the market is untapped. I'm just a power poster that posts at many forums. I like this community here at bitcointalk and try to add to it. |
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DirectBet- If you take a look at the live lines at Betcoinsports, the layout is much better. There is a box around all offerings that change red/green depending on if the line goes up or down. One click and you get quick confirmation if the bet is accepted.
You almost have to jump through hoops to make a bet at DirectBet. Hit the game, place an order, copy/paste address. Put it in the wallet and send. Then you aren't guaranteed that the bet will be accepted and it's held by you if you use firm odds and there is any delay between the player's wallet and your wallet.
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bitbook.biz was the most reputable sportbook before it was targeted by DDOS.
They gave everyone time to withdraw funds, before they closed down for good.
Just wanted to correct that piece of misinformation.
Yes, I did mention in my post that Bitbook paid out its users for several days after closing. However, they too did not pay out everyone because they only allowed a short window of a few days to get paid. If you search the archive of Bitcointalk you will find reports of users that were not paid, simply because they did not visit the Bitbook thread during the few days closure period and were not aware of it. They allowed a 7 day window that was expanded to 10 days if I remember correctly. Yes, good reason not to use those site that require an account and deposit into the site. Hence, now we can all agree- DirectBet is the #1 crypto-Sportsbook on the market. I'm not trying to prevent anyone from playing at DirectBet. Currently on the TB/Minn game, the odds are -1428/+310. I can't recommend a book with these type of holds. Other games: -1428/+310 -900/+265 -1111/+360 -5000/+950 -434/+166 |
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bitbook.biz was the most reputable sportbook before it was targeted by DDOS.
They gave everyone time to withdraw funds, before they closed down for good.
Just wanted to correct that piece of misinformation.
Yes, I did mention in my post that Bitbook paid out its users for several days after closing. However, they too did not pay out everyone because they only allowed a short window of a few days to get paid. If you search the archive of Bitcointalk you will find reports of users that were not paid, simply because they did not visit the Bitbook thread during the few days closure period and were not aware of it. They allowed a 7 day window that was expanded to 10 days if I remember correctly. |
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We at DirectBet sympathies with those of you who apparently lost their deposits and investments with the disappearance of BitcoinLiveBets.com
To date, there hasn't been a single cryptocurrency Sportsbook that we are aware of, which ceased operation gracefully and honored all withdrawal requests.
All the Bitcoin Sportsbooks that were closed in the past, with no exceptions, ran away with users deposits, and every time that happened, it hampered the reputation of the Bitcoin sports betting industry as a whole. (Note : Bitbook did pay out its users for several days after closing, but not all of them).
The purpose of this post is not to spread salt on the wounds of those affected but rather to raise the point that in today's new virtual currency era, there is absolutely no need for a Sportsbook to take deposits and hold your coins while they are not being wagered.
The "My Account" -> "Deposit" type of wagering belongs to the 90s.
Today, you can bet with your coins and keep them safe in your wallet under your control while they are not in a wager.
No longer do you need to park your valuable coins on 3rd party websites and hope that they will be there when you need them.
Taking deposits is a much better method for players than with what is currently being used by DirectBet. Bit365 was a book similar to DirectBet. Bit365 went under stealing player's funds. They were a non-deposit book. The biggest downfall with using a non-deposit book is that you are at the mercy of transfer time between your wallet and DirectBet. Bets can be held for hours, using the worst case scenario, with a non-deposit book. During this time you do not know if you have a bet or not. If you use "firm odds", there is no way to cancel your wager. With deposit books, you get close immediate responses. There is also never a need to keep a huge balance in a bitcoin deposit book. After winning a wager you can take the winnings and put it back in your wallet after a win. One advantage that DirectBet has is if you aren't funded with another book. The only other advantage is that they have many live wagering events albeit odds with outrageous theoretical holds. |
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Nitrogen puts up horse racing odds in the big horse racing events. BetOWI gives a 7% rebate on horse racing. You can play with bitcoins at BetOWI. They convert bitcoins to US dollars.
How do you set your horse racing odds? I need to know that to give you an accurate assessment.
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BetVIP raised from D+ to C-.
BetVIP is licensed in Curacao. In an earlier post it was asked if any poster had a problem with BetVIP and no problem was stated.
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)
"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
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What Benjig said. Nitrogen is the best for what they put up. BetOwi now accepts Bitcoins. They put up most tracks and are much better than DirectBet for horses since DirectBet tacks on a lot of vig.
I just visited Nitrogen website but didn't find any horse race to bet on. You announced in the past that you are getting paid by Nitrogen to advertise and promote them in forums, and that's all right, but here there is nothing to promote, your employer is not currently offering any horse races ! We offer horse racing betting 24/7 around the globe and with competitive odds. Please submit a proof that BetOwi offers greater odds than DirectBet otherwise it will be considered a baseless attempt to discredit a competitor. DirectBet- Your accusations are outlandish since no books pay me to post at bitcointalk and you are well aware of this. BetOWI offers a 7% rebate on their horse wagering. You seem to charge the players an extra 5% to the book that you are cloning your lines from for horse racing. If this is untrue, then please tell me how you set your lines since I like to research all books. Thanks . |
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I had a similar experience. I placed a bet, then I went to the status and it said that the odds had changed and the bet wasn't accepted. The next day I checked and DirectBet counted it as a loser. They showed me that the bet was accepted 7 minutes later. I didn't know this until the next day.
Glad I'm not the only one. Did they refund the bet to you? If this is a bug in their automated software, that's fine as long as they settle it. I am not pissed yet, just disappointed. If they decide not to refund the bet, my feelings about this website will change drastically. I sent them a PM the next day and they refused to refund the bet. |
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Wow, DirectBet... I have to say I am very, very disappointed  I just created a toto parlay and sent in the BTC. Right after I sent the BTC I refreshed the page and it said that it was closed and that no more bets could be made. I was sad, but it was fine because I would just get the refund. It has happened before (when the bet would have won - I wasn't pissed because too late is too late and I should not have won). Ten seconds after I sent the money one of the bets on my parlay lost, and I refreshed again just to make sure. I was happy that my bet would get cancelled and that I would get a refund... after the refresh all of a sudden it said that my money was received and that the bet was open again. I feel cheated out of the money. If the toto was already closed, it should not have accepted my money AFTER the parlay already lost. I've had this happen with winning parlays before and then the bet remained CLOSED (which, as I said, was fine because I was too late. But now that it's a losing parlay you open the bet back up again? Wow...) I have done business with you before, but this is unacceptable in my eyes. I really hope that you guys will solve this in a timely and professional matter. If there was some mistake that is fine, but the fact that my bet went from 'Closed' back to 'Open' right after my parlay lost is extremely sketchy and disappointing in my eyes. Where do we go from here? I had a similar experience. I placed a bet, then I went to the status and it said that the odds had changed and the bet wasn't accepted. The next day I checked and DirectBet counted it as a loser. They showed me that the bet was accepted 7 minutes after my bet had been placed. I didn't know this until the next day. I hope that you have better luck than I did trying to rectify the situation. |
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What Benjig said. Nitrogen is the best for what they put up. BetOwi now accepts Bitcoins. They put up most tracks and are much better than DirectBet for horses since DirectBet tacks on a lot of vig.
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