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321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: PoSWCoin Unofficial Unmoderated Price Speculation Topic on: September 06, 2017, 05:06:25 PM
The idea was great. It was an useful service to mine (stake) PoS coins that you want to speculate with and you couldn't care enough to download the entire blockchain for. They got started with the wrong foot, but I think it will eventually get it's pump sooner or later. If I was holding bags, I wouldn't sell at a loss now. I mean it can't go any lower, it has found a stable price. I have experience of holding bags for 2 years that finally get a big pump and you are able to get out at great profits. I think if the devs keep taking care of the project, big money will want to put some attention into this.

Patience is key in the game of crypto-speculation.
322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Has anyone recieved their Byteballs yet? on: September 06, 2017, 03:25:15 PM
According to this website:

https://byteball.org/

Quote

Next distribution: Full Moon, November 4 05:23 UTC

58

DAYS

13

HOURS

59

MINUTES

41

SECOND

So the distribution was yesterday, next one is in two months because they are bypassing november.

Did anyone get their GBYTE? How much did you get? Also how fast is it after the countdown is over to receive your coins?

I just can't check my Byteball wallet until I can pick up my other computer. I can't wait to see how much I got. If I did everything right I linked all of my addresses into different gbyte addresses correctly.
323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What coins can you claim for free as BTC owners? on: September 06, 2017, 02:10:11 PM
Think Byteball is the only one worth a shit going on right now

And it is just about done.

Forgot to add BTX Bitcore:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1883902.0


Yes, the current airdrop is over, but there will be more airdrops, it's a monthly process, except it appears that this month they will not do an airdrop (for November) so they are skipping this and the next airdrop will be on October, so you got until October to sort your bitcoins up and link all of your addresses to Byteball addresses for some free money.

I like the idea, avoids ICOs, but creates dumps on each airdrops, that's the problem of this method. It's also not automated. I don't like the feel of some guy changing the rules. I prefer the "rule set from the start" like on bitcoin. I mean a predictable and hardcoded method to issue the coins. The problem with this of course, PoW etc. Everything has pros and cons, that I know off.
324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GGG vs Canelo betting thread on: September 06, 2017, 11:03:50 AM
GGG being a big favorite confuses me.

Canelo seems to have fought the bigger more established names and tougher competition.

Is Canelo the underdog due to him being shorter and smaller than GGG? I see some sources claiming Canelo is 5'7 or 5'8 while GGG is 5'10.

Conor McGregor probably weighed around 170 lbs the night he fought Floyd. I get the impression height and weight are less important in boxing than they are in MMA.

Are there other reasons which could explain GGG opening as such a large favorite?

He is undefeated, and undefeated fighters always have that aura about them that makes them special. Everyone either wants them to win or wants them to lose to see how they would react to their first loss (basically a lot of people watched Mayweather fights because of that, that's how he made so many millions)

He is also the bigger guy with the better reach, he has tremendous KO power. Both are highly skilled. It's going to be a hell of a fight, there's a lot on the line for both.
I kinda wish that Mayweather didn't school Canelo when he was 21 so both could be undefeated for this fight.
325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO is officially banned in China !!! on: September 05, 2017, 02:56:19 PM
This is really a bad news. They ban every ICOs or they ban some of the ICOs? What will happen if all the countries follow the same thing?

Essentially, all ICOs are banned. At least, they cannot be administered in China, and ICO tokens cannot be offered to Chinese residents.

Now, in practice that's not much different than the USA. To the SEC, most of these ICO tokens are unregistered securities, and it's definitely illegal to issue them to US residents. What happens? The people running ICOs change the terms, saying that US residents aren't allowed, and maybe at most there is an IP restriction placed. Then US residents just get a VPN and invest anyway. Same here.

Most countries regulate securities. I think most will also be a bit more subtle and just stiffly regulate ICOs, not outright ban them.

Wasn't Bancor banned to US residents? Yet it managed to raise tons of millions of dollars.

I believe there's no amount of bans that are going to stop ICO's from happening. There's always going to be workarounds. Whoever wants to invest is going to invest. You are probably getting rid of the bulk that are dumb enough to not be able to even know how to get an VPN and get things done and scare people with the ban thing, but ICOs are never going to disappear, even if they need to be hosted in the Cayman Islands or some shit.

I guess it's time to invest in VPN providers, that business may keep going up.
326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / What coins can you claim for free as BTC owners? on: September 05, 2017, 12:41:02 PM
I mean coins like Byteball where the coins are airdropped to BTC owners. Any other coins like that?

I saw the interview of Roger Ver and Richard Heart and Richard mentions Byteball and some other coin I forgot, I think Stellar Lumeris or whatever is called, I have no idea what that is.

Anyway, what other coins can you get for free as BTC owners? (yes, I already know about Bitcoin Cash too)
327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Are all ICO's fucked? on: September 05, 2017, 11:28:12 AM
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/are-most-cryptocurrencies-doomed-to-collapse-because-they-re-ico-issued#comments

I have been telling people to not gamble too much with ICO's and just enjoy the BTC profits because I knew sooner or later things would go south. I saw this article by anonymint aka iamnotback on this subject 2 days before the Chinese ban on ICOs.

Is the ICO model dead? will ICO's keep making millions no matter what?

I believe "ICO" has become a derogatory term in crypto. I wouldn't use this model to issue the coins, with or without government bans involved, "ICO" was a term that was turning into a joke a long time ago.

It's time to find better ways to issue cryptocurrency. Byteball luckily avoided the ICO model, but it's distribution method is most likely what is causing these dump cycles, so early adopters aren't benefiting from being early adopters. Hopefully the price starts growing eventually. It's sad to see a coin like Byteball so deep into coinmarketcap with a ton of shitcoins above it because it was not some overhyped ICO.
328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GGG vs Canelo betting thread on: September 05, 2017, 10:31:51 AM
I think golovkin can win ko/tko
golovkin power is very good, all win golovkin alway KO/TKO
maywather afraid meet golovkin because about golovkin power

LOL. How can you say that Mayweather is afraid of Golovkin? Mayweather hasn't campaign at 154-160 lbs. He's best weight is at 147 lbs. For me Mayweather has face the best from 147-154 lbs but Golovkin is too big for him. I think  the biggest fighter he tried to avoid in his career is Margarito.

Golovkin was always too big for Mayweather. Mayweather would have been to be at its heaviest and Golovkin would need to cut, but still, I think Mayweather in it's prime could have got the job done, he would have needed to play a game similar to the fights vs the bigger guys he fought, keep digging the body and wearing him out and jab him out, I dont think he could chase him like McGregor tho, he would need to be more defensive.

Exactly, GGG is too big and he can't go down to 154 lbs. I think there was talks before If I'm not mistaken. But GGG can't make weight at 154 lbs because he is naturally big and could even go to 170 lbs if needed. Look at Pacquiao fighting Margarito at catchweight during their fight, Margarito rehyrdrated to 170+ lbs before the fight. Although Pacquiao won, he is not the same anymore, he was a damaged good after the fight. Mayweather is  too clever to do that. For him, "health comes first".

Margarito lost to Miguel Cotto and Maywaether gave Miguel Cotto a good boxing lesson. He also lost to Shane Mosley. Shane did a good job in the earlier rounds but toyed with him in the rest of the fight and also won. He also lost to Pacman.

So you got all those fighters beating each other but nobody has beaten Floyd Mayweather.
329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO is officially banned in China !!! on: September 04, 2017, 12:37:55 PM
Here's the list of ICOs banned by China:



Looks like nothing of value was lost. Purge that shit.

Once the markets realize this is not a global ban of all ICOs, but only some ICOs that no one even knows, BTC will be the first to go back up, followed by speculative altcoin money short after.

Stop falling for the good ol chinese tricks and traps and buy the dip.

I don't speak chinese. How do you know it's not a global ban on all ICOs and only a few selected ones?

That thing does look like a list. So if there is a list, im guessing the ban is not global.

One of the ICOs that got me worried the most is NEO due the massive volume, but it looks like this will not have an impact on NEO (other than the price crash due panic selling of course..)




What I don't get is.. he says "regulation", but this is a straight ban so?
330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: STRATIS - Only Great Things Ahead on: September 04, 2017, 11:45:07 AM
I suspect that the news are not going to result in a significant price increase. Stratis would have to deliver some substantial progress in order to attract attention, some miniscule announcement or rumours of listings on other exchanges won't suffice.
I would keep watching the price. Unless something juicy happens, who knows if we re-test the 0.00103 dip. In dollars it was $2.41, but dollar to BTC correlation has gone bust since then, so I expect STRAT to not go that low, but we may re-visit that same dip in BTC terms. If it goes lower than that I would start getting scared and thinking that im holding yet another stagnating bag. Hopefully the project is strong enough to avoid that fate.
331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GGG vs Canelo betting thread on: September 04, 2017, 11:00:26 AM
I think golovkin can win ko/tko
golovkin power is very good, all win golovkin alway KO/TKO
maywather afraid meet golovkin because about golovkin power


Golovkin was always too big for Mayweather. Mayweather would have been to be at its heaviest and Golovkin would need to cut, but still, I think Mayweather in it's prime could have got the job done, he would have needed to play a game similar to the fights vs the bigger guys he fought, keep digging the body and wearing him out and jab him out, I dont think he could chase him like McGregor tho, he would need to be more defensive.
332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When Bitcoin Bubble busts this Altcoin will SKYROCKET on: September 04, 2017, 09:53:40 AM
Dogecoin has been around a long time, is proven to work and the 110 Billion supply means there is enough for everyone without just having to own btc0.01 which puts many investors away.

Thats so much better than a 22 Million bubble as with BTC.

Even if you consider...

1 BTC = $4500 * 22 Million = $74bn
1 Dogecoin = $0,02 * 110 Billion = $234m

Thats still a bubble of factor 50 with bitcoin. Meaning a SANE price for 1 Bitcoin would be around $90.

While a SANE price for 1 Dogecoin would be around $1. (50* of what it is today)

Dogecoin does just the same as Bitcoin, faster, easier and with much smaller fees, plus half the world loves dogs.

So theres my prediction, it took Dogecoin a long time but its going to get at $1 and more once everyone looks for safe harbors when panic-selling their BTC.



Wrong, the only bubble that will burst will be the altcoin bubble, specially now that China is banning ICO's, so all these dumb scams will no longer flourish, or at least it will be harder without chinese pump money. I guess whoever wants to buy an ICO will still do it using VPNs or whatever, but it's going to be much difficult.

Meanwhile BTC will keep rissing for a lack of a better altcoin. Hopefully the dip from the ICO ban is over soon. It would suck if there is a chain of events and the ICO news are followed by segwit2x propaganda creating a chain reaction of panic sellers.
333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Choosing right alt. on: September 03, 2017, 12:57:28 PM
How do you make decision about buying alt or not? What features are you relying on?
I am new to this market but im doing following things, may be you can suggest smth more.
For example lets take VERGE.
1 Discussion in topic 332 pages, i did not read all of them but it seems that people like it.
2The traffic on their website :
17.38%United States - good
7.41%United Kingdom - good
7.01%Turkey - not so good
5.72%Netherlands - good
5.57%Germany - good
3 It is on well known exchange - bittrex, $5,342,730 - per 24\ , has good volatility , since june:) but i do not like the amount of coins czu price will go slowly.
Circulating Supply 13,409,472,280 XVG
Max Supply 16,555,000,000 XVG
4 What does it offer? i think nothing, all about anonymity and nothing else, i mean it does not solve the crucial problem in society, it is not technological. You ca use it for trading but not investing..







My priority list to investing in an altcoin:

1) The technology: Does it propose anything new that can challenge the current king (Bitcoin) and is it already working or is it some promise/vaporware?

2) Active devs: are they constantly trying to improve stuff or they are sitting on a chair doing nothing?

3) Limited supply: Is it a good store of value?

4) Marketing: Can the devs spread the word of their good work and get big liquidity going or they can't spread the word even if the project is good?


These are the major keys imo. Without 1), you are just buying another short lived pump and dump, aka they want your bitcoin.
334  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GGG vs Canelo betting thread on: September 03, 2017, 12:31:35 PM
Ok. Since Mayweather-McGregor is done. As boxing fans, we should focus on the 'real' money fight this year.  If you are a hardcore boxing fans, we might say that this is indeed the biggest fight not Mayweather-McGregor. Really hard to predict the winner as both of them are really very good fighter.

I'll still go with GGG I think he's more heavier puncher than the two, body shots, uppercut and he have proven to have a good chin as well while Canelo face is get bloody easy like Marco Antonio Barrera. So I'm seeing this match going the full 12 rounds and the decision going to GGG.

Canelo is a thought guy, if you look at his record he indeed has 0 losses by KO, so the guy has a solid chin. I mean just look at his brick skull, the motherfucker just wouldn't go down.

A 12 rounder is a very solid prediction, but GGG is a bigger powerpuncher, and an actual boxer powerpuncher unlike McGregor, so I think GGG could definitely put his first KO on Canelo, maybe by stoppage so a TKO in late rounds.

We'll see, it's definitely the best boxing fight of the year.
335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: STRATIS - Only Great Things Ahead on: September 03, 2017, 10:59:44 AM
There's an obvious triangular formation in the works with STRAT when it comes to BTC price. USD price is just doing it's own thing. I wonder what follows what, but I only like to focus on altcoins against BTC because my mission is to make more BTC.

Is there any countdowns for any relevant upgrades or addition into new markets? anything that could trigger an upwards move after the triangle? otherwise we may go into stagnationville.
336  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Moneyless Society on: September 03, 2017, 09:57:29 AM
Hi,

I wanted to run this by you and see what you say.

What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?

I know it sounds ridiculous, and everybody would just go for 100 cars and 100 fancy houses, but if you think about it, if you could get everything you wanted, all those things wouldn't be as valuable anymore, and it would lose it's "richness" appeal and people would be bored by it after a while and just settle with what they actually needed. Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.

Sidenote: I love the idea of bitcoin so I don't really want to ruin bitcoin, but hey, maybe we could go there with bitcoin somehow... Smiley


There aren't ferraris for everyone, and the people in charge aren't going to let their power go to redistribute wealth. I like the idea of an open source society as described by Jacques Fresco, but unfortunately I don't see that happening anytime soon, we may need 1000's of years to get to that point. In the meantime, im pretty sure cryptocurrencies will be the next step, creating a global economy, possibly inter planetary, so you better start stacking up on BTC soon, for a lack of a better alt.
337  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin made it to John Cena's Instagram on: August 31, 2017, 11:25:28 PM
These is a publicity that could literally fuel BTC to the moon  Undecided



Actually, in my opinion all these celebrity crypto endorsements are hurting us. The people that prop up bitcoin never explain it, and there is seemingly no interest beyond a paid endorsement. Why is this the first time we are hearing about crypto from Cena? Take Mayweather as another example. Was cool when he promoted STOX. When he promoted the second ICO, it became obvious he was getting paid to tweet

The TenX promotion on the Simpsons, however, was epic.  It was actually funny Smiley

Even if these celebrities don't explain anything, they fact that they even mention it is positive. For every 10 people that see it, 5 will ignore it, 4 will spend 1 minute googling it, 2 will become very interested and will keep following it, 1 will actually buy.

So as long as the minority that get interested get the message, it is worth it. The people that put in the effort to do their own research are the ones that deserve to get rich the most.
338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Litecoin Skyrockets past $60 on: August 31, 2017, 11:05:30 PM
I have been hodling mine since I mined them years ago. I almost sold after the segwit induced price spike but have resisted until now. It seems the price has stabilised now for some sideways movement which is good. (possible a $5 correction downwards)

Congratulations to the winners (these that still decided to hodl pre-segwit activation in bitcoin). Honestly I see no reason for LTC to go up anymore, the fundamentals aren't as interesting. I guess lightning networks and atomic cross chain transactions etc could make it relevant again, but im not going to risk BTC holding LTC for the time being. I think there are better bets to make out there.

This is what I was saying when LTC was 3$ for such a long time - had I known how much segwit would have benefited the coin...would easily have become a filthy rich animal

Hindsight is always 20/20... you have to look at what's happening now and see how it will go into the future.

If you want to make more BTC and you don't want to trade against fiat in order to stay within crypto which is reasonable in order to avoid the fiat-taxing mess, you need to look at solid coins with liquidity, and I guess LTC is a decent bet compared to the rest. But the fundamentals are obviously not as attractive anymore in a post-segwit environment. It may pump again when sidechains and LN are a thing.
339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Litecoin Skyrockets past $60 on: August 30, 2017, 10:44:44 PM
I have been hodling mine since I mined them years ago. I almost sold after the segwit induced price spike but have resisted until now. It seems the price has stabilised now for some sideways movement which is good. (possible a $5 correction downwards)

Congratulations to the winners (these that still decided to hodl pre-segwit activation in bitcoin). Honestly I see no reason for LTC to go up anymore, the fundamentals aren't as interesting. I guess lightning networks and atomic cross chain transactions etc could make it relevant again, but im not going to risk BTC holding LTC for the time being. I think there are better bets to make out there.
340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather Vs McGregor: Info and prediction thread on: August 30, 2017, 10:30:22 PM
Expected thing happened, nobody surprised by this game and result. Mayweather could have finished before 10th round if he wanted to. The game could be less than 20 minutes but he didn't force himself. McGregor should stick to mixed martial arts, boxing isn't for him.

Yup. A lot of people went home with a little more money because of this. Betting on mayweather won't really give you big profits as he is handsdown favorite. Though if you placed a bet on pretty boy floyd, you probably were a little concerned with the beginning of the fight where conor actually won. It wasn't actually what most expected for floyd to school mcgregor. Conor lost wind late in the fight
Mayweather  is a smart fighter, he is just trying to give entertainment to the fans that's why this game was not ended early.
He sticks to his plan and he beat Conor in the late round, it's not a problem for conor anymore as he has no reputation to protect in boxing, but at the end of the day Conor is the winner with great cash reward.
Being small in the ring doesn't matter.
You remember a fighter called Mike Tyson whose statue was only 5 foot 8 inches
yet he dominated most of his fights.

He was a power house in the ring even if he was shorter than most of his opponents.
Same with Mayweather.
He is small but he can land a punch to you it is just like a being driven into a brick wall.
As what McGregor felt in the later stages of the match.

Mike Tyson was not 5'8'', he was 5'10'' (he was listed as 5'11'' and a half sometimes, which I doubt unless he shrink with age, but no taller than 5'11" for sure)

Mike Tyson was built like a tank, he wasn't tall like the other heavyweights, but he was a big guy.

But yeah, ultimately weighting a lot isn't going to win you fights.
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