Other than the paranoid scenarios you invent, you have no proof whatsoever... I certainly don't envy you and your mentality, you're trapped into a "i know everything bubble" and when someone challenges you in an open discussion you play the victim role....like why you insult my assumptions ?
Well, your assumptions suck...you have no proofs whatsoever and you come here and accuse people of things they never did...That's your resume and that's what you like to do...
You're using the argument that because no one has been scammed yet, means there's no possible way it can ever happen. Yup, NO CHANCE that fraud is involved in obtaining these GCs, and it's not possible for you to scam, right? This is like saying a brand new account wanting to buy BTC with paypal, won't ever file a chargeback because he has not done it yet, and we don't have proof he will do it. Anyone that thinks so, must lack all logic and a complete idiot. I'll just point out the hard facts, the users can come to their own conclusion: 1) Your account was registered 2 weeks ago, first post selling Amazon GC or dropshipped items 2) Amazon GC's has one of the highest scam rates historically 3) Deep discounts 4) Bribing for positive trust and feedback Yup, not suspicious at all. Amazon does not directly sell GCs at over 25% discounts. When you get mass amounts for even cheaper than that, there is a high chance some sort of laundering is going on. If these are legit, it's easy to prove. Why don't you show some sort of invoice or proof? I don't care one bit about what you consider suspicious...You have very different meanings for a lot of words so.... Have you heard of purse.io or brawker.com ? How is my service any different ? Are they suspicious as well to you....here are some press releases : http://www.coindesk.com/purse-io-can-shave-25-bitcoin-buyers-amazon-bills/http://www.coindesk.com/purse-io-closes-300k-funding-expand-amazon-discount-service/https://bitcoinmagazine.com/14040/brawker-cyril-houri/
I'll just point out the hard facts, the users can come to their own conclusion:
1) Your account was registered 2 weeks ago, first post selling Amazon GC or dropshipped items
Again the : My username is older than yours
2) Amazon GC's has one of the highest scam rates historically
Proof ? Highest scam rates historically ...please show me a fraud top where Amazon is included
3) Deep discounts
I offer the same discounts that reputable companies like Brawker and Purse are doing.
4) Bribing for positive trust and feedbackHere comes your paranoia again...Where is that bribe ? Proof ?You have no proofs, all you do is accuse....you should talk to somebody specialized about this...I am not kidding |
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2. All the customers who did not return any feedback about my service will not be able to get items with 25% off again... they will get only 10% off the Amazon listing price if they decide to use my service a 2nd , 3rd etc time .
You're exchanging feedback and trust for something monetary. Way to buy feedback. Again accused of something I never did....Why did you take this out of context ? I said I was thinking at doing that because I feel that people should post their reviews about my services (good or bad)... I honestly believe this is fair, as I can choose who to do business with and at what cost...If they believe is fair not to leave a review, than why should I offer them the same discounts ? Anyways I haven't done that and I asked for their opinions....yet you accuse me of doing it....this is your game, I get it....you accuse This is my post, people can draw their own conclusions : 25% discount is not sustainable for me in the long run.... Once I have a constant number of customers the price will go up, I make no secret of that...realistically speaking you are looking at a 15% discount in just a few weeks...
I was thinking at this solution to solve the "not leaving" feedback problem :
1. All the customers who bought with 25% discount will continue to get 25% off the price for as long as I stay in business. I think this is fair to all my old customers
2. All the customers who did not return any feedback about my service will not be able to get items with 25% off again... they will get only 10% off the Amazon listing price if they decide to use my service a 2nd , 3rd etc time . I really have no problems in getting new customers with 25% off so why should I offer the same advantages to people that "don't give a F" about my service Huh....It is not fair to the rest of the guys...
What do you think ? Post your opinions |
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You see higher trust for you because you sent positive feedback to those users and therefor they are in your trust list so if they give feedback to you, you'll see it positive although other people may not.
Thanks for the info....however I was asking about the green trust digits ? Some members have some green digits at their "trust rating" and some do not (me, you and many others) ....why some people have the trust colored in green and others do not ? Just curious about this one Reynaldo.... Positive trust by you and the people your trust network is green. More info on trust here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0If mine is red, it is because somebody in your trust network gave me a negative trust rating. Thanks for link |
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First of all, just because you don't offer gift cards to other stores, purchased with stolen credit cards, doesn't mean it's not possible to do so. It's a matter of not wanting to vs not being able to. Amazon gift cards are more liquid and able to move faster than others because Amazon offers such a wide selection of merchandise. This is why it's easier to sell an Amazon GC compared to a GC or a mom-and-pops store. It comes down to what easier to scam/launder for the time you invest in it.
Let 's take this step-by-step : wtf? Is that how you interpret what I said? I'm almighty and you destroy the planet's equilibrium? Really?? No, that's not what I said at all.That is called irony, something you've never heard about.... "your username is OLDER than mine* (not mind)"I guess it's very hard for you to understand what happened...you're just as perspicacious as I imagined... hint : look where the letters "D" and "E" are on the keyboard and you'll figure it out This is why it's easier to sell an Amazon GC compared to a GC or a mom-and-pops storeDo you call Target, BestBuy, Walmart, Ebay a mom-and-pops store ? If I was using "stolen credit cards" like you suggest I would've been able to offer the same service on every website in the world where credit cards are accepted....But as you can see, I'm not doing that...I am limited to amazon.com because I am not using Credit Cards at all... Like I said, you have no arguments or in your statements ...and you don't have to consider that an insult...it's as real as what you just wrote above....look again at your statement ....Is Ebay your mom-and-pops shop ? Or Walmart ? These are the arguments you throw at me....I never put these words in your mouth, you did... Other than the paranoid scenarios you invent, you have no proof whatsoever... I certainly don't envy you and your mentality, you're trapped into a " i know everything bubble" and when someone challenges you in an open discussion you play the victim role....like why you insult my assumptions ? Well, your assumptions suck...you have no proofs whatsoever and you come here and accuse people of things they never did...That's your resume and that's what you like to do... |
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You see higher trust for you because you sent positive feedback to those users and therefor they are in your trust list so if they give feedback to you, you'll see it positive although other people may not.
Thanks for the info....however I was asking about the green trust digits ? Some members have some green digits at their "trust rating" and some do not (me, you and many others) ....why some people have the trust colored in green and others do not ? Just curious about this one Reynaldo.... |
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I have sent you PM. Please help me if you can.
I hope we can make a deal.
Thanks.
I just replied your PM....Cheers |
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Are you able to purchase items from an Amazon wish list such that I do not need to send you my address?  Yes of course....I've done this for several clients, just send me the links through PM I was fairly certain that'd be the case. I'm not entirely decided on the items I'd like however I'll probably PM within the next few days. Privacy is something that many people value and I certainly have no problems with that...If you don't want me to see your delivery address, you may create an Amazon wishlist and PM me the link. Cheers |
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Are you able to purchase items from an Amazon wish list such that I do not need to send you my address? Yes of course....I've done this for several clients, just use the option "create an Amazon wishlist" and send me the links through PM |
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I read a lot of praise about the service, but why is the trustlevel "Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)" still at a staggering zero?
What do you mean ? From where you've just copy/pasted this " Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) "  Here is my copy/paste : amazon4u Newbie * Activity: 28 Selling Stuff 25% OFF ! See my signature Trust : 0: -0 / +6(4) I think the 2 copy/pastes are a bit different...don't you think ? Not sure how the trust works, probably based on users you trust and therefore for you you see the +6(4), but still the user is relative new(28 activity) and the base trust is still 0: -0 If people really want to leave positive feedback I would expect them to boost his trust and not just post about it. But It might not be how the trust works. I am not sure how the "trust" feature works, and why I don't have any green digits like other people. That may be because my username is fairly new... If you check my "sent" feedback you will notice that some people did not return my positive feedback or even bothered to post in my thread as "received" . I don't have a problem with that, everybody does what he thinks is fair to him...Maybe they are busy or maybe they just don't care ...either way is fine by me and I respect their decision It is not personal, just a cautious conclusion and urging for those who did do business with you to leave a possitive trust, it takes time and it will build. Your service might be shady, but that does not mean it couldn't be trustworthy. The 25% discount is tempting and verges on being too good to be true, might consider it myself though 25% discount is not sustainable for me in the long run.... Once I have a constant number of customers the price will go up, I make no secret of that...realistically speaking you are looking at a 15% discount in just a few weeks... I was thinking at this solution to solve the "not leaving" feedback problem : 1. All the customers who bought with 25% discount will continue to get 25% off the price for as long as I stay in business. I think this is fair to all my old customers 2. All the customers who did not return any feedback about my service will not be able to get items with 25% off again... they will get only 10% off the Amazon listing price if they decide to use my service a 2nd , 3rd etc time . I really have no problems in getting new customers with 25% off so why should I offer the same advantages to people that "don't give a F" about my service ....It is not fair to the rest of the guys... What do you think ? Post your opinions |
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I read a lot of praise about the service, but why is the trustlevel "Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)" still at a staggering zero?
What do you mean ? From where you've just copy/pasted this " Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) " Here is my copy/paste : amazon4u Newbie * Activity: 28 Selling Stuff 25% OFF ! See my signature Trust : 0: -0 / +6(4) I think the 2 copy/pastes are a bit different...don't you think ? Not sure how the trust works, probably based on users you trust and therefore for you you see the +6(4), but still the user is relative new(28 activity) and the base trust is still 0: -0 If people really want to leave positive feedback I would expect them to boost his trust and not just post about it. But It might not be how the trust works. I am not sure how the "trust" feature works, and why I don't have any green digits like other people. That may be because my username is fairly new... If you check my "sent" feedback you will notice that some people did not return my positive feedback or even bothered to post in my thread as "received" . I don't have a problem with that, everybody does what he thinks is fair to him...Maybe they are busy or maybe they just don't care ...either way is fine by me and I respect their decision |
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Given that the item hasn't even shipped and only 1 in stock (means it could be anywhere in US) I highly doubt this is gonna make it to me by tomorrow as guaranteed by Amazon Prime...I'm looking forward to this purchase putting this "2 day guarantee" to the test! We shall see!
It's what Prime says...2 days guaranteed...By the looks of it, you are right...highly unlikely that you will have it tomorrow.... but we shall see ... This is a gift order Arriving tomorrow by 8pm Shipping today Maybe the item has shipped today and they didn't update the tracking yet...Anyways I am just as curious ...Will send you tracking # as soon as I have it |
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I purchased a $730 Gift Card Code from him. Great Seller!!
thanks for the feedback |
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Giving this service a chance. $280 order, $210+tip sent to escrow and held there currently. Should have package by Tuesday, will update status upon arrival to me.
Thanks for using my service. |
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I read a lot of praise about the service, but why is the trustlevel "Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)" still at a staggering zero?
What do you mean ? From where you've just copy/pasted this " Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) " Here is my copy/paste : amazon4u Newbie * Activity: 28 Selling Stuff 25% OFF ! See my signature Trust : 0: -0 / +6(4) I think the 2 copy/pastes are a bit different...don't you think ? |
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I don't think you need to read the entire 10 pages of this thread to get your answer. Hell, you don't even need to read the first three pages.
You don't have to read anything before you post, don't worry... You were born very smart and all the other people around you are very stupid...so I guess, we have to listen to you and your kind on a daily basis .... Don't mind us, the stupid people, you just know stuff without reading anything....because of that, you can just post something/anything on every topic ...your username is also OLDER than ours, so you're entitled to just say stuff without reading....Congrats !!! He said money laundering, not stolen CC "laundering comes into play to get clean money..." that means that you have dirty money (drugs, illegal sex trades for money, etc) and you are laundering (cleaning your money) with these giftcards-bitcoin deals. Reynaldo man, I know you are trying to defend people that can't or won't read, but facts are facts man..and I quote : "What's to say that a stolen credit card was not used to buy the gift cards? You can add gift cards to any new amazon accounts to buy the items, and set any billing address and shipping address if gift cards are used"I think this phrase is pretty clear....This is what he wrote and this is what he thinks, regardless of what you are trying to suggest (money laundering etc) ... Anyways I've proved my point several times on this board, yet the pointless accusations keep raining through.....like I said, my Gift Cards are simply no good to some people, regardless of what I prove...and that's quite alright as long as they mind their own business.... If my Gift Cards are not purchased with Credit Cards, than they must be poisonous/radioactive/cursed/laundered/bad for you etc etc etc ....There isn't a day on this board without a troll on my thread, but that's alright...I am a patient man with something to say |
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I don't think you need to read the entire 10 pages of this thread to get your answer. Hell, you don't even need to read the first three pages.
You don't have to read anything before you post, don't worry... You were born very smart and all the other people around you are very stupid...so I guess, we have to listen to you and your kind on a daily basis .... Don't mind us, the stupid people, you just know stuff without reading anything....because of that, you can just post something/anything on every topic ...your username is also OLDER than ours, so you're entitled to just say stuff without reading....Congrats !!! |
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I'm blown away by some people jumping on this. You guys can't be that naive, can you? You're trusting a brand new account with no prior trade history, with a payment type that is notorious for scams.
The problem is not that he will outright scam you. You'll indeed get your items. The problem is amazon banning your address, and potentially having police show up at your door to investigate.
OP emphasize many times that items are not directly purchased with a credit card. This is true. It would be stupid of him to buy items directly with a stolen CC. So this is where the laundering comes into play to get clean money. What's to say that a stolen credit card was not used to buy the gift cards? You can add gift cards to any new amazon accounts to buy the items, and set any billing address and shipping address if gift cards are used. Then just directly send to items to the victim.
At 25%, he is still making a profit. You guys really think these deep discounts are legit and sustainable?
Ok....I am going to make a bet with you, since you seem to be "All-Knowledgeable" , " "Almighty" , " All etc etc etc" ... So you basically say this : I am a new user that will "ruin people's lifes" , destroy the planet's equilibrium etc etc etc Okay...let's play your game for a bit.... But how about in a year from now, you'll pay me 10 BTC if none of my customers will report any problems with my service ? If not I will pay you 10 BTC ? How about that ? I think it's a fair bet... Now since you do not wish to use the logic of a 3rd grader, I will help you out with a little rhetoric : How come if I am using " stolen credit cards" like you've emphasized, I am able to buy stuff ONLY from www.Amazon.com Why not other websites Should I tell you that credit cards are accepted everywhere in the world What's stopping me to buy stuff from other websites Do you think other stores/websites (Target/Starbucks/Itunes/Walmart etc) don't have Gift Cards that can be purchased with Credit Cards What's stopping me to use my service on those websites as well, or on Amazon.ca, Amazon.de etc Well, since you don't want to use the minimal logic required to function, I am gonna help out a bit: "I DO NOT PURCHASE GIFT CARDS WITH CREDIT CARDS AT ALL !!! IF I WAS DOING THAT, I WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO OFFER THE SAME SERVICES ON OTHER WEBSITES (WALMART/TARGET ETC) !!! "
Do you understand ANYTHING from the statement above ? People please THINK BEFORE YOU TALK/POST !!!! I am tired of all you POST-ZOMBIES coming here and throwing dirt at me JUST BECAUSE your username is OLDER than mind !! Now please go away in your linear world and let me live in peace !!! |
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From where you bought these gift cards ?
I mean to say which site you use
your thread is becoming popular day by day
In your main topic thread you wrote all your purchase come from Amazon gift cards
I am not sure what you mean....All my orders are paid with Amazon Gift cards, but if you want to make your own orders on www.Amazon.com I can also sell you the gift cards and you may order the goods yourself...I've just sold a $730 Amazon gift card a few minutes ago, let me know if you wish to buy one now question is that what is the main source of your amazon gift cards The gift cards are not bought online, if that's what you're asking.... |
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From where you bought these gift cards ?
I mean to say which site you use
your thread is becoming popular day by day
In your main topic thread you wrote all your purchase come from Amazon gift cards
I am not sure what you mean....All my orders are paid with Amazon Gift cards, but if you want to make your own orders on www.Amazon.com I can also sell you the gift cards and you may order the goods yourself...I've just sold a $730 Amazon gift card a few minutes ago, let me know if you wish to buy one |
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I have a product costing $280 I'd like to buy to try your services. Pick your escrow, let me know via PM so we can get this done. Excited to try this out.
PMed you.
Okay...send the BTC to "Debitme" and as soon as he confirms receival I will get started on your order... |
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