c) If dashcoin wants DASH for itself..is it okay for you and evan?
Let's say Evan comes up with a better name than DASH or for any other reason (competing coin's fans pay/extort him enough or w/e) decides to drop pursuing the DASH trademark => the competing company gets the trademark => they will come after you. Then good for him, shove his dick somewhere else..skipping dashcoin again for the claim eh?....
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Dunno what Evan's intent is exactly, but I'm just assuming here (and playing with the possible outcomes):
a) If Evan manages to trademark DASH in the field of virtual currencies (or w/e the field's gonna be), he is going to let Dashcoin be Dashcoin, no problems for anyone.
b) If the other company is admitted the trademark to DASH, then it might not allow Dashcoin be Dashcoin as it's just been proven to operate in the same market/field.
Thoughts?
c) If dashcoin wants DASH for itself..is it okay for you and evan?
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I have read it. I have made question: Why? to those, who say: "you are asking the wrong person" Probably, there are too many wrong persons. I suppose, they are mute, blind and deaf. apparently greed can make a person, mute, blind and deaf another one there you are talking about greedy darkcoiners, and that the price is not everythig a coin makes and so on ... but in the end you are the one who is greedy, or why do you want to get a buyout of your dashcoin from DASH? PS: Funfact, you are talking about DASH is trying to destroy dashcoin, if anyone intends to do that, why is dashcoin still traded at poloniex? Wouldn't it be the first thing to start bribing exchanges to unlist if you want to kill a coin? and irrational too lol my opinion is a buyout would be fair at least, while buying(can i use the word bribing?) the dev, leaving dashcoin community to rot and stealing the name must be fair for you? PS: Funfact, are you trying to make an argument about this? lol... what did i say?......oh apparently greed can make a person, mute, blind, deaf and irrational too edit: a buyout in DRK would be nice so i'll have the pleasure of dumping it. Arielbit, I've read just about all of your posts on here & the DRK/DASH thread, including your responses to DRK/DASH people and your ongoing overall expressions of unfairness and upset over what you perceive to be an attempt by Darkcoin to destroy Dashcoin. There's a part of me that has some empathy for the situation you've found yourself in but it's rapidly being completely overtaken by a sense of indifference because of the never ending determination you have to label DRK/DASH as this heinous aggressor who has come and "attacked" Dashcoin and tried to destroy it. So attached to this line of thinking are you, you might as well be saying DRK/DASH is trying to destroy YOU personally! You just keep going on and on and on and on with the same line, the same determined questioning of why DRK/DASH has acquired Dashcoin's code & name and the same outrage directed at virtually everyone that's identified themselves from the DRK/DASH community. Yet, I don't think I've read one post where you're openly speaking to slb and asking him or her "Why have you sold out?" or "Why did you decide to abandon us, your Dashcoin community?" or "Why have you given up on Dashcoin?" Not one! It's like you've identified that DSH/DARK people are there, they're living, breathing and they're responsive so you're going to just go on and on and on and on and on with these never ending complaints and accusations of foul play and underhandedness towards DRK/DASH because....well because....because the Dashcoin dev is gone so "I have to find someone else to blame and DRK/DASH is it damn it!" But as I've pointed out numerous times now, it's not DRK/DASH that you should be directing your rage to. Dashcoin still exists, it's still functioning, it's still being traded (at multiples of its previous price) and it's still a working crypto. Nothing has changed except slb decided to sell out which means you no longer have a dev and, if Dashcoin is to continue being developed, someone has to step forward, fork the existing code base and move on with a new dev or group of devs. Nothing has been "destroyed", nothing has been taken from you that you legally owned and you have no legal claim to the intellectual property or brand of Dashcoin because it isn't yours to own (just like I own the value of the physical money in my pocket, but the design of the coins and notes and the manner in which they work I have no claim on; they're the property of the issuer). That's it. There's nothing more. This never ending acrimony against DRK/DASH and accusations of unfairness/underhandedness is completely pointless. It has no logic to it. It has no potential to rectify your loss or even just your feeling of loss. It has no likelihood of "fixing" anything because it's entirely the wrong tree you're barking up. Evan Duffield is not your enemy. All those DRK/DASH people you're having such heated debate with aren't your enemy. DRK/DASH itself is not your enemy. I am not your enemy. Your enemy is ignorance and the consequences of it. That's where you need to be focussing your attention; your own lack of comprehension and thoroughness on what it means to invest in a cryptocoin with an anonymous dev who can walk at any moment leaving you holding coins that then have a dubious future unless someone takes over. Honestly arielbit, that's who your enemy is. That's where you should be directing all this anger and angst towards; your own lack of understanding as to how this stuff works and what it is you've really bought when you purchase cryptocoins. Demonising DRK/DASH people and trawling through a thousand hypotheses around how slb selling out to DRK/DASH isn't right and getting all upset and pissed off with people like me writing postings like this may give you a feeling of self righteousness but it's not going to fix anything because (and I know you hate hearing this but there's never been anything quite as true) WE ARE THE WRONG PEOPLE YOU SHOULD BE DIRECTING YOUR QUERIES TO. Dashcoin's dev is who you need to be challenging, not DRK/DASH. It's Dashcoin's dev that's decided to stop being the dev and sell what he's produced to Evan Duffield. That's the reality of the situation and all this anger and rage towards DRK/DASH and its community isn't going to help one little bit. (But I'm expecting you'll dig your heels in even further and respond to this post with a whole lot of angry rhetoric that once again totally misses the fundamental issue here on where your upset and unanswered questions should be directed and why that is so). Another "wrong people" here lol Thought you're gonna say something new here with your very long post. And please don't post here another of your short story.they suck.i think i'm gonna lose my mind here.
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I have read it. I have made question: Why? to those, who say: "you are asking the wrong person" Probably, there are too many wrong persons. I suppose, they are mute, blind and deaf. apparently greed can make a person, mute, blind and deaf another one there you are talking about greedy darkcoiners, and that the price is not everythig a coin makes and so on ... but in the end you are the one who is greedy, or why do you want to get a buyout of your dashcoin from DASH? PS: Funfact, you are talking about DASH is trying to destroy dashcoin, if anyone intends to do that, why is dashcoin still traded at poloniex? Wouldn't it be the first thing to start bribing exchanges to unlist if you want to kill a coin? and irrational too lol my opinion is a buyout would be fair at least, while buying(can i use the word bribing?) the dev, leaving dashcoin community to rot and stealing the name must be fair for you? PS: Funfact, are you trying to make an argument about this? lol... what did i say?......oh apparently greed can make a person, mute, blind, deaf and irrational too edit: a buyout in DRK would be nice so i'll have the pleasure of dumping it.
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We aren't keeping anyone in the dark, if you have a legitimate question myself or any one else here can provide all the information you need. We do not need to lie, cheat or steal here.
+1 +1 up your ass hurt Fudster turned into cry baby with a tiny axe to grind You are now making your self now look like fool Go hunt down your Dev... And bitch to him your uninformative personal attacks shows how desperate you are in stopping revelations from the good community around here. well here is a productive post in your forum --- be careful in investing in darkcoin, DRK devs are going around making shady deals, aside from questionable technology and a dark past.
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I have read it. I have made question: Why? to those, who say: "you are asking the wrong person" Probably, there are too many wrong persons. I suppose, they are mute, blind and deaf. apparently greed can make a person, mute, blind and deaf another one there
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@ Minotaur26 @Jeff8247 @Kai Proctor
i used the word "secret" because PR, supporters and troll hunters of darkcoin, refused, ignore and keep me in the dark when i am searching for answers in this thread...luckily some good people are sharing the information to the community.
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Owners of Dashcoin, please respond with how many Dashcoin you have and if you think a 1 million dollar marketcap takeover is fair.
I own around 6000 dash so count me in. A million dollars sounds fair to me. i think buying dashcoins from dashcoins community would be fair, as for marketcap, doesn't need to be 1million as long as the community sold out that is fine for me. trolltalking a few hours ago in darkcoin thread clearly shows that buying dashcoin dev accounts is their way to kill dashcoin...at least it just didn't come from ther PR guy minotaur. From what I understand there are no plans to shut this coin down. The new interest in it has brought more activity from the community and considerable gains to Dashcoin holders in a very short period of time. The price was at it's all time low and since Darkcoin's involvement it's had a massive increase. It would be hard to imagine early Dashcoin holders are upset in any way considering the coin remains and MyFarm has been offering them such incredibly high prices for them on top of it. price again..well i was thinking previously the price should become super cheap making people forget greediness for once and dashcoin would experience sharing like this.. I'm holding my Dashcoins tight, and I gave 1 million Dashcoins to some friends and family for Christmas. It's nice to be able to give a million of something.
things darkcoin never experience since its inception. being a clone of bytecoin saves the community some development cost..btw i would like to thank bytecoin devs for the development and slb for some tweaks. darkcoin stealing dashcoin name is somehow stealing dashcoin future, like i said in darkcoin thread "why buy our dev? and dev accounts like github"? .....don't throw me the "you are asking the wrong person" again lol
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that's darkcoin blood hounds been always gibbering all this time..........marketcap, price, value of the coin.. these guys are so greedy they forgot that there are people trading at poloniex with significant volume, miners, community who bought and hold, and a dev which darkcoin bought. trying to make small marketcap = dead i have to reiterate again dashcoin dev latest development was feb 08 2015..
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Owners of Dashcoin, please respond with how many Dashcoin you have and if you think a 1 million dollar marketcap takeover is fair.
I own around 6000 dash so count me in. A million dollars sounds fair to me. i think buying dashcoins from dashcoins community would be fair, as for marketcap, doesn't need to be 1million as long as the community sold out that is fine for me. trolltalking a few hours ago in darkcoin thread clearly shows that buying dashcoin dev accounts is their way to kill dashcoin...at least it just didn't come from ther PR guy minotaur.
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well here it is. i squeezed it out from you guys..thank you.
You couldn't squeeze an orange. Let's have a simple case study on contract law. Offer and acceptance between a willing seller and willing buyer, with a little consideration to make things legally tight. Bob: Hey, Alice I wanna buy your buns. (offer) Alice: Sure, 1 BTC. (consideration) Bob: Are you sure? (terms) Alice: Yes. Let's sign a contract. (acceptance and signed terms, aka contract) Bob: OK, Alice. Deal. Here is your 1 BTC. Let me play with your buns. (consideration passed) Alice: Thanks, Bob. (done, deal. watertight). Alice & Bob. Happy Hey, where's Fernando when you need him? your a comics guy, me too here i'll show you my comics too before i sleep ....i'm no short story type, sorry renegademan There are thousands of failed altcoin projects by now, the names are starting to be like old domain names. The development team acquired the rights to the name from a small abandoned crypto project "Dashcoin" although it was never intended to use the suffix "coin". Thus we are now DASH, but thanks for watching our backs, it is all taken care of though. day 1 person a: what is DASH? dark guy: digital cash..etc. etc. person a: what is digital cash? dark guy: well.....it is a cryptocurrency like bitcoin and litecoin person a: so it is a coin? dark guy:...yyyyyyes.. day 2 person a: hey person b i heard there is a coin out there named DASH, it claims to be anonymous etc. person b: so how much is this DASH coin? a piece?.. person a: 3 bucks..... (person b buys) day 3 person b: hey person c i bought some DASHcoin it is 3 bucks a piece, bought 10..that's 30 bucks person c: WHAT! fucking rip off...i bought 10 million dashcoins for 1$ at poloniex.com LOL btw i removed the logo it seems that people are only looking at it hmm so you are afraid that someone invests on dashcoin because he thinks its dash? - isn't that just positiv for your dashcoin? Why the fear than? the comics is about stealing a name and trying to kill a coin for its name....you guys always point to market cap, investment, price etc., your business practices makes me loose faith in cryptos overall. edit: specially darkcoin @ coins101 find a troll like you.bye alright, that's enough..going to bed now..
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well here it is. i squeezed it out from you guys..thank you.
You couldn't squeeze an orange. Let's have a simple case study on contract law. Offer and acceptance between a willing seller and willing buyer, with a little consideration to make things legally tight. Bob: Hey, Alice I wanna buy your buns. (offer) Alice: Sure, 1 BTC. (consideration) Bob: Are you sure? (terms) Alice: Yes. Let's sign a contract. (acceptance and signed terms, aka contract) Bob: OK, Alice. Deal. Here is your 1 BTC. Let me play with your buns. (consideration passed) Alice: Thanks, Bob. (done, deal. watertight). Alice & Bob. Happy Hey, where's Fernando when you need him? your a comics guy, me too here i'll show you my comics too before i sleep ....i'm no short story type, sorry renegademan There are thousands of failed altcoin projects by now, the names are starting to be like old domain names. The development team acquired the rights to the name from a small abandoned crypto project "Dashcoin" although it was never intended to use the suffix "coin". Thus we are now DASH, but thanks for watching our backs, it is all taken care of though. day 1 person a: what is DASH? dark guy: digital cash..etc. etc. person a: what is digital cash? dark guy: well.....it is a cryptocurrency like bitcoin and litecoin person a: so it is a coin? dark guy:...yyyyyyes.. day 2 person a: hey person b i heard there is a coin out there named DASH, it claims to be anonymous etc. person b: so how much is this DASH coin? a piece?.. person a: 3 bucks..... (person b buys) day 3 person b: hey person c i bought some DASHcoin it is 3 bucks a piece, bought 10..that's 30 bucks person c: WHAT! fucking rip off...i bought 10 million dashcoins for 1$ at poloniex.com LOL btw i removed the logo it seems that people are only looking at it
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there was restaurant opened with the name mang donalds or mang donald (i don't remember exactly)...mcdonalds sue them and won.. dash and dashcoin seems like an easy win here.
if mang donalds bought mcdonalds then mcdonalds is dead.. dashcoin and ↄash are software projects, coin owner are 'users' not owner of the brand Fixed it for you (yes, I'm back ) you clearly answered this then. why buy our dev, github and other accounts? what is the purpose? to kill the dashcoin..your PR guy minotaur was saying DRK is not killing the coin..trying very hard to make a good face out of DRK well here it is. i squeezed it out from you guys..thank you. edit:renegademan enough of your neighbor, and wrong question stuff..your short story sucks..won't bother reading it...coins101..thumbs up for you
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using these products analogy is simply retarded.. crypto currency is closer to stocks than products like big mac, banana etc.
nope, crypto currency is legally property as is a big mac. Neither convey any legal rights other than under property law. Shares on the other hand convey rights under company law including a share of ownership of the actual brand. (look at it like shares are property with additional rights under company law, crypto currencies don't have those as they are just property) i am not a lawyer..but why do i feel that darkcoin is destroying my property and creating confusion by buying and selling their property under my property's name? FFS GO AND TALK TO YOUR DEV!!!!! Dev's done a runner? Well there's no one to talk to then. This is what happens with anon devs. DRK is not "destroying your property"!!! Man oh man...this is just becoming SOOOO tedious! why buy our dev, github and other accounts? what is the purpose? unless dash dev go out on a selling spree like a sidewalk vendor (slb:dash github for sale..anybody?) You're asking the wrong people! This is similar to you being on holidays and returning home to find the neighbours next door who you've have a fond relationship with have suddenly sold up and left without any word and there are new people in that house. So, instead of contacting your old neighbours and asking them what's happened and why did they leave without any warning, you're at the front door of the house banging on it continually saying "Why did you buy this house!!?? Why?? I feel like you've destroyed my relationship with my old neighbours!! Why did you do this!!??" And then when the new people say "You really need to take it up with your old neighbours" you say "I don't know where they've gone and I can't contact them" and then start repeating all over again "Why did you buy this house!!?? Why?? I feel like you've destroyed my relationship with my old neighbours!! Why did you do this!!??" Can you see how futile this is? You need to direct your queries to the Dashcoin dev and if you can't contact him then you need to decide whether to exit your DSH position (which is now about 4 time more valuable than it was just a week ago as a result of all of this) or continue on with DSH on a forked version. That's what you bought into when you bought a crypto from an anonymous developer. bought a crypto from an anonymous developer turning cryptos to big macs again?..myfarm has a better analogy on housing, read back a few pages. nonsensical reply that's void of anything relating to the core concept I just laid out for you i.e. for these, your questions: why buy our dev, github and other accounts? what is the purpose?
I'll re-iterate it again: "you're asking the wrong people" It's that simple. it is my right to ask, if you think you are the "wrong people to ask" then do not reply to me. why buy our dev, github and other accounts? what is the purpose? evan why?
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This is clearly coming from someone who understands and has been involved in proper VC funded experiences. This isn't a trolling comment this is actually something every other Suit watching would say if they took the time to read all the crap which they never would.
We have all been acting like kids regarding this. If you are a business man with vision and understanding this comment should sit with you and make you ponder.
i doubt it because one thing VC's aren't is legally-dumb. myfarm has no clue legally what he is talking about. he mentions 'no legal precedent' in every post because he thinks that means he can buy a big mac and then sue McDonalds for using his trademark lol there was restaurant opened with the name mang donalds or mang donald (i don't remember exactly)...mcdonalds sue them and won.. dash and dashcoin seems like an easy win here. And what about monero and money? what about money and "money" mayweather? ....non issue btw.
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using these products analogy is simply retarded.. crypto currency is closer to stocks than products like big mac, banana etc.
nope, crypto currency is legally property as is a big mac. Neither convey any legal rights other than under property law. Shares on the other hand convey rights under company law including a share of ownership of the actual brand. (look at it like shares are property with additional rights under company law, crypto currencies don't have those as they are just property) i am not a lawyer..but why do i feel that darkcoin is destroying my property and creating confusion by buying and selling their property under my property's name? FFS GO AND TALK TO YOUR DEV!!!!! Dev's done a runner? Well there's no one to talk to then. This is what happens with anon devs. DRK is not "destroying your property"!!! Man oh man...this is just becoming SOOOO tedious! why buy our dev, github and other accounts? what is the purpose? unless dash dev go out on a selling spree like a sidewalk vendor (slb:dash github for sale..anybody?) You're asking the wrong people! This is similar to you being on holidays and returning home to find the neighbours next door who you've have a fond relationship with have suddenly sold up and left without any word and there are new people in that house. So, instead of contacting your old neighbours and asking them what's happened and why did they leave without any warning, you're at the front door of the house banging on it continually saying "Why did you buy this house!!?? Why?? I feel like you've destroyed my relationship with my old neighbours!! Why did you do this!!??" And then when the new people say "You really need to take it up with your old neighbours" you say "I don't know where they've gone and I can't contact them" and then start repeating all over again "Why did you buy this house!!?? Why?? I feel like you've destroyed my relationship with my old neighbours!! Why did you do this!!??" Can you see how futile this is? You need to direct your queries to the Dashcoin dev and if you can't contact him then you need to decide whether to exit your DSH position (which is now about 4 time more valuable than it was just a week ago as a result of all of this) or continue on with DSH on a forked version. That's what you bought into when you bought a crypto from an anonymous developer. bought a crypto from an anonymous developer turning cryptos to big macs again?..myfarm has a better analogy on housing, read back a few pages.
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why buy our dev, github and other accounts? what is the purpose? unless dash dev go out on a selling spree like a sidewalk vendor (slb:dash github for sale..anybody?)
IDK but I assume it's because under trademark law the first person that traded under the name 'dash....' owns the rights to that name. the people who mined / purchased coins deriving from the mark owner have rights to own their coins under property law but they do not have rights to make any claim on use of the dashcoin name under trademark law because they never owned it. and remember coins are not shares so they have no rights under company law like shares do they are just property. assuming you are correct..what if the owner of dash died assuming it was evan?where will the ownership go?
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This is clearly coming from someone who understands and has been involved in proper VC funded experiences. This isn't a trolling comment this is actually something every other Suit watching would say if they took the time to read all the crap which they never would.
We have all been acting like kids regarding this. If you are a business man with vision and understanding this comment should sit with you and make you ponder.
i doubt it because one thing VC's aren't is legally-dumb. myfarm has no clue legally what he is talking about. he mentions 'no legal precedent' in every post because he thinks that means he can buy a big mac and then sue McDonalds for using his trademark lol there was restaurant opened with the name mang donalds or mang donald (i don't remember exactly)...mcdonalds sue them and won.. dash and dashcoin seems like an easy win here.
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using these products analogy is simply retarded.. crypto currency is closer to stocks than products like big mac, banana etc.
nope, crypto currency is legally property as is a big mac. Neither convey any legal rights other than under property law. Shares on the other hand convey rights under company law including a share of ownership of the actual brand. (look at it like shares are property with additional rights under company law, crypto currencies don't have those as they are just property) i am not a lawyer..but why do i feel that darkcoin is destroying my property and creating confusion by buying and selling their property under my property's name? FFS GO AND TALK TO YOUR DEV!!!!! Dev's done a runner? Well there's no one to talk to then. This is what happens with anon devs. DRK is not "destroying your property"!!! Man oh man...this is just becoming SOOOO tedious! why buy our dev, github and other accounts? what is the purpose? unless dash dev go out on a selling spree like a sidewalk vendor (slb:dash github for sale..anybody?)
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