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3221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Bitcoin? on: August 12, 2016, 12:15:11 PM
It is perfect combination right now. Bitcoin filled successfully the gap which traditional payment processors will not able to make. There some some very serious concerns regarding privacy,anonymity and security with easy to gamble online. I also started to gamble online when I saw the facilities of Bitcoin. Bitcoin and gambling has changed the gambling a lot and will grow more with time.

Agree with this. Before, when I tried to join certain online casinos that accepts and pay fiat money, they refused my enrolment due to my geographical location I was currently at. But with bitcoins, I can easily join and deposit  at anytime I like- no need for more identifications and etc..

exactly. and not only your location but also there are many problems with using money payment processors for example like PayPal, or any other that works in US and under their law, they will block your account and your money in it if you deposit in a gambling site.

Correct! They will freeze your money like forever. or do they froze it or get it? Smiley Anyway, these times with bitcoins, gambling is easy to players to get to experienced how it feels like for people that gambles with fiat money.

Today, with bitcoin, it seems that we are all equal in online casinos even if we deposit little or just have bankroll from faucet from other whale players that have big bankrolls.. Smiley
3222  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 12, 2016, 12:11:28 PM
I consider bitcoin as a currency and I use it like that.I dont believe in holding bitcoin and depriving others of owning them at low price

Respected that point of yours Btcforall. However, holding bitcoin is not depriving others of winning them at low price - it is just a price of you being smart in holding your coins or fiat money in that matter.

If you just spend and spend then eventually will lose all of your money or bitcoins, if you hold some, then you will have in times of need and may even grow it with its value increasing.

Holding is really a good to consider investment in bitcoin and that's why many people are doing it investment to bitcoin they are holding. And I know since from the beginning of release of bitcoin many people are still holding from their purchase of bitcoin for the last years and for sure they are enjoying now their profit.

Yeah holding it for future is the best thing to do, as bitcoin can be the best investment for the future and at this stage there is not many options to use it as a currency.

And will never be even for many years since in general all are using these as a currency.

Well gonna go with the flow but Im making sure Im using bitcoin sometimes to help those people who are putting effort to make this a strong currency.

That is so good from you agustina2 Smiley Me too, I never hesitate to pay bitcoin transaction fees for people that are mining for bitcoins and even supports other ventures that will promote more bitcoins to public.
3223  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 12, 2016, 12:09:15 PM
Iam buy bitcoin after big dump big down price
or after big news and panic sell, accident bitfinex hack bitcoin down
panic sell is right placed right price buy bitcoin

Yes I agree with you that is the best time to buy bitcoin when its price goes down.   We are sure that its price would go up again as bitcoin is the most recognized crypto.  Buy more bitcoins while its price is still low, buy low and sell high principle.
I would prioritize buying bitcoins now than spending my money with my wants like gadget or anything else, I would not miss this opportunity that is already in front of my window, the price is really good now and in a short period of time we can easily make a profit.

Yup we should buy coins at this stage as price is not too high at a moment and everyone is predicting that it will touch $1k in end of the year which can give us some huge profits.

True why is it that there are a lot who are predicting at that price. I see also at $1200 and I think that is way to huge until the end of this year. But buying is really a good idea now. Even just at $700 then I will be happy.

If price reaches to $700 in coming months then I am sure most of the users will sell their coins to make profits but I think we should hold our coins till we touch $1k mark.

In that I will really agree. Some are itchy if their losses. Is it really losses or just a price fluctuation. If they havent even move their coins then it cannot be said that they have lose something. I just hope many will also wait for what you are saying.

Yeah everyone wants to make higher profits and everyone is hoping to see the price of $1k in this year and that is the reason most of the users are holding their coins.

If the price will reach to $1000, then I could only imagine how many cool guys, who hold their bitcoins, will have smiles that reaches their ears Cheesy
I am holding and will always be holding the line for some of my bitcoins because I am saving some of them for my grandkids.. that way, I will not get affected with price fluctuations because no matter what, these some coins of mine will last for decades in my holding for my grandkids. If the orice will get high up to $1000+ per bitcoin that time then, that would be an added bonus Smiley
3224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: August 12, 2016, 12:01:08 PM
hello, I would like to try my luck from gambling.

what kind of gambling that you think is easy to make a profit? and what strategies are you using?
playing dice sir but you must be carefull and clever  Grin

When you play dice, you must have lots of sessions and must do the right calculations first as to what numbers of red streak you can stand. I suggest using this to calculate the loses you can take and then just follow that pre-planned bets: https://dicesites.com/tools. Hope it helps as muuch as it does to me - a very handy tool.
3225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: August 12, 2016, 11:58:08 AM
Also psychiatrist can help you to recommend what is the best way to quit and stop addiction in gambling..
But if you are not so addicted you can control your self and find other hobby. to prevent your self yo gamble..

In my opinion, Psychiatrist is only needed if you are already misbehaving or acting too weird.. But I think Psychiatrist could give council to family members in what they could do to handle your situation... It depends, sometimes an addict needs a retreat or things like that, where they could strengthen their inner self so they could control their selves again...  Smiley

You are right, but professional help of Psychologist will be useful for any gambler who think they have a problem, or if their family think so. It's better to start dealing with addiction on early stages, or it might be too late later.

I'm a bit confused, which would we consult if we are addicted in gambling? is it the Psychiatrist or Psychologist? as far as I know they both deal with mental illness.. I think one of those two should be consulted first... But anyway, back to the topic, Consulting those professionals should be the last thing that you need to do, you know, you have to pay them and could cost you a lot...

there is a technical difference between the two, i am not sure about it but i asked about it once and if i am not mistaken one of them is only like a consultant who you talk to but the other (Psychiatrist ) will go about curing mental illness with drugs.

Thank you for that wonderful explanation, therefore you have to consult about you have a weird behavior or if you need a council about it to a psychologist? and Psychiatrist when it is caused by drugs or side effects of it, so it should be the psychologist to talk with first?

But anyway, quitting is not really a big thing, I think it is much easier than rehabilitating a gambling addict...  Smiley

I just do hope that I can't be in the position of others who just can't stop their gambling addiction Smiley I just wanna be like my friend who gambles for decades and stop instantaneously when he met the and marry the girl of his life and then move to asia.
3226  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 12, 2016, 11:55:55 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas

The best way for a steady income is to own a small or intermediate company, offering the service and having few or more clients so you will have to work most of the time and deliver the service/product.
On the cryptocurrency world is good to a have an exchange, a forum or games.

This is one of the most relax and coolest ways of advice to have a steady income

I guess you simply don't understand what the hell it is to run "a small or intermediate company"

We want steady income right? There is no easy way to get it. We have to do our best efforts, time, and money in order to get that goal. When you get the hang of running a small or intermediate company, then we are on the right track and worthy of success.

P.S.: I was referring to relax and cool to the message below the avatar of the commenter.

I got that, but the phrase "'small & secure' [rather] than 'big & risky'" doesn't feel quite right. Small is usually more often associated with being risky. In other words, big is less risky overall, also known as "too big to fail"...

Or too big to jail, lol

haha.. got your point deisik Smiley I was just referring to the last poster's comment and not on the original post. My mistake also.. Now we are good, right? Smiley

This is what I like in this forum, we got healthy exchange of our point of views Smiley
3227  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 12, 2016, 11:53:13 AM
Iam buy bitcoin after big dump big down price
or after big news and panic sell, accident bitfinex hack bitcoin down
panic sell is right placed right price buy bitcoin

Yes I agree with you that is the best time to buy bitcoin when its price goes down.   We are sure that its price would go up again as bitcoin is the most recognized crypto.  Buy more bitcoins while its price is still low, buy low and sell high principle.
I would prioritize buying bitcoins now than spending my money with my wants like gadget or anything else, I would not miss this opportunity that is already in front of my window, the price is really good now and in a short period of time we can easily make a profit.

Yup we should buy coins at this stage as price is not too high at a moment and everyone is predicting that it will touch $1k in end of the year which can give us some huge profits.


True why is it that there are a lot who are predicting at that price. I see also at $1200 and I think that is way to huge until the end of this year. But buying is really a good idea now. Even just at $700 then I will be happy.

If price reaches to $700 in coming months then I am sure most of the users will sell their coins to make profits but I think we should hold our coins till we touch $1k mark.

In that I will really agree. Some are itchy if their losses. Is it really losses or just a price fluctuation. If they havent even move their coins then it cannot be said that they have lose something. I just hope many will also wait for what you are saying.

Correct. If you are not moving yet your coins, you are not actually losing at the moment. If you hold and wait for price bounce then you are good. But if you are scared enough, then you can exchange it at a loss from the original price you bought that coin
3228  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: August 12, 2016, 11:51:08 AM
I think most of the people are buying bitcoins for gambling as its very easy to gamble with bitcoin without disclosing the identity, so even if gambling is illegal in your country you can easily gamble with bitcoins.

Exactly... There are a lot of people buying bitcoins for such things because they dont need to identify themselves for anything being done with bitcoins as it is an anonymous coin and used widely in the world without any restrictions.

You are right. and with the online casinos accepting bitcoins, there is really no hassle at all for players for waiting time of approval and to deposit. THe moment you join online casinos that accepts bitcoins, you can already deposit without giving away your information to them - you just bet anonymously. This is really the beauty of bitcoins.
3229  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 12, 2016, 11:47:41 AM
Hello
Gambling depends on your luck and not on much strategy. As far as casino sites are concerned its pure luck that works. That is why the casino owners are the ones who make a profit and not the players. If you are excited about making a profit from gambling sites I would warn you that you will end up losing everything if you are not careful and greedy and wish to become a millionaire in one day.
Good Luck!!

That is true. But if you have many sessions, then you are giving yourself a lot of chances to get lucky. Just be disciplined enough though to sop right away when you hit that goal profit of yours - don't get greedy or casinos will eat you up to your bones.
3230  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 12, 2016, 11:45:19 AM
It is difficult to stay away from gambling for a person who has been for years in this. The earlier you realize the better it is to stay away. This addiction brings includes many things like recover and win more. Gambling's addiction is same as drug where person lost ability of thinking and don't want to accept or understand others point of view.

I have a friend that been gambling for decades already and when he decided to stop last almost 2 years ago, he did without much struggle in his part. Well, he transferred to Asia and happily married with a beautiful Asian now. I guess as long as you have that powerful will to stop you can and also when you have found more precious than gambling in your life then you are renewed Smiley
3231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Bitcoin? on: August 12, 2016, 11:41:51 AM
It is perfect combination right now. Bitcoin filled successfully the gap which traditional payment processors will not able to make. There some some very serious concerns regarding privacy,anonymity and security with easy to gamble online. I also started to gamble online when I saw the facilities of Bitcoin. Bitcoin and gambling has changed the gambling a lot and will grow more with time.

Agree with this. Before, when I tried to join certain online casinos that accepts and pay fiat money, they refused my enrolment due to my geographical location I was currently at. But with bitcoins, I can easily join and deposit  at anytime I like- no need for more identifications and etc..
yes mate this one this the big help for gamblers to play even we are not in the same location we can play gambling in any time using bitcoin with out providing our personal info it is one of the great feature of this coin. playing easily and you can just simply place your bet without giving any info about you personally.

That is right mate. We can deposit right after joining online casino that accepts bitcoin even at 2am and starts betting in seconds after deposit confirmation. May I know where you are playing? Maybe we have stumble in chatrooms already before Smiley
3232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: August 12, 2016, 11:34:15 AM
well i gamble so you could say girls gamble  Tongue i dont really know how many do though but guess there are many like me.

Here is one of the many girls out there that gambles online. titbach, may I know your nickname and what online casinos you are playing? I will give you 50k satoshi  Grin

Jokingly aside, yes there are quite numbers of girls already gamble online right at the comfort of their homes. But just a piece of advice, only gamble money or coins that you can afford to lose.
3233  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 12, 2016, 11:31:25 AM
I consider bitcoin as a currency and I use it like that.I dont believe in holding bitcoin and depriving others of owning them at low price

Respected that point of yours Btcforall. However, holding bitcoin is not depriving others of winning them at low price - it is just a price of you being smart in holding your coins or fiat money in that matter.

If you just spend and spend then eventually will lose all of your money or bitcoins, if you hold some, then you will have in times of need and may even grow it with its value increasing.

Holding is really a good to consider investment in bitcoin and that's why many people are doing it investment to bitcoin they are holding. And I know since from the beginning of release of bitcoin many people are still holding from their purchase of bitcoin for the last years and for sure they are enjoying now their profit.

I have a partner in my bitcoin venture and we are planning to hold some of our bitcoins up until for our grandchildren. Of course we are not doing it to all of our bitcoins just a part of it.

I just cant imagine how much would the bitcoin worth during that time - it can either be worth so high or can be worthless.
3234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 12, 2016, 11:27:26 AM
It has not taken over my life as I had to put a stop to it or it would have ended my life very early on.
It is hard to stop an addiction but you have to find some else to replace it good or bad. Hopefully good because the other bad addictions will just compile the problem even worst then it already is.
I turned to gambling addiction by switching collecting birds, one of which is the birds love bird. if I continue gambling until today probably would not like it in my life. even now I was using bitcoin wisely. trading is one way to process the bitcoin so that we benefit.
Gambling and trade bitcoin on the exchange, are two different things, one of which actually is more profitable and less risky.

Both are risky. Both can turn into huge profit fast. But here's the trick: gambling is ONLY about luck; trading can be done with a little bit of strategy too. If you hear about some currencies going down/up before everyone else does, you can become a millionaire overnight.

yes both have risks, but the risks in trading safer than gambling. if you have a good strategy, it can reduce the risk. also lost in gambling can be lost in an instant, as compared to trade. when lost, could be an advantage if you patient to wait price recover.

But there is no really good strategy that can make you profit though, all strategy is only slower your balance from ending too fast though if you keep on playing it agaian. Trading always is much safer though if you only trading your btc to your fiat but to play altcoin i dont think that they you will really get profit because altcoin is unpredictable which is will be the same as gambling. Anyway gambling only lead us to addiction then it will wreck your life if you cant control it
That's the problem with people because we always want to fell thrill and make money at the same time. Trading will not give us a thrill but it can give us a great opportunity to make money, we need to have our own priorities in how to make money.

Trading is  better  in any way compared to gambling, it may not give us the chills and the excitement but   learning in trading is worth of our time since it could be developed in future and could make our earnings more  bigger and bigger since we are experienced enough  as the time passes by.

I am really excited to learn how to properly trade. I will definitely learn the fundamentals of trading and its technical aspects really soon. I am now exchanging bitcoin to doge and have some of my coins rented and earned frrom interest. Within this year, I will surely learn trading -gift to my self and my retirement activity at home or wherever I am.
3235  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: August 12, 2016, 11:22:34 AM

Was planing to invest on a gambling site since they said its a gauranteed profit since the house can't lose but I'm still skeptical about it, i don't have much BTC so I have to make sure whether its going to be profitable for me.  What possibilities could happen to the gambling site i wanted to invest into and how am i going to lose my investment in such a manner?
No one said that it is a guaranteed profit. If you found gambling site with investment option which says so.
Then they are either lied to you or you failed to interpret or understand their investment description correctly.
I've seen people losing while investing in casino bankrolls, there is always a possibility of some lucky whale playing.

General golden rule. If you don't have spare money - you don't invest.

Could not agree more.  Just like gambling, we must only invest money that we can also afford to lose because investment is also a risk actually. It should be that you budget your total assets and get some for savings, investment, entertainment, paying the bills, and the like. If you only have money enough to pay the bill, and then you still invest it, then it is not a wise investment after all.
3236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling has killed me (money vanished) on: August 12, 2016, 11:19:16 AM
I registered on a site that plays dice i was using the free bitcoin the gave to me to play the game when i saw that i was successful i invested my own money into it and then my real story begin i was able to make a suitable income and i became greedy not to see the future so i played with all my money in just 10 second of playing that game my money vanished i fell from the chair i was siting to the ground i was not even able to see well for some time because of the shock
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

So hold your money well and don't be greedy like me 


Lesson learned, being greedy into things wouldnt make good things into you but it would only  make  you suffer losses.  We must not let our greediness overcome us when we are playing gambling since it would probably make things worse and  experience the things that you never expect for.

The best thing there is that we recognized that mistake we've made when we gamble. I just do hope that it will stick always to us so that it will not happen again otherwise, you are really not learning and you are really a loser.
3237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 12, 2016, 11:17:33 AM
I am prefer to gamble we can manage itself
but if we invest we cant manage it also we can lose profit anytime

I believe we can both manage our investment and also our bankroll when gambling. This is a matter of skills and knowledge that we need to learn beforehand we venture into gambling or investing. If we have that right knowledge and skills, then we are good most of the time than having no knowledge and skills at all.
3238  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: August 12, 2016, 11:15:28 AM
I am not good in managing my money because i don't plan how to spend money and where to use that money, So my savings are almost Nil, I spend  all my bitcoins i received from a signature campaign.
So you should learn how to save mate, you will only realize that when time comes that you badly need money because of some emergencies, lucky you are if you have your parents that would give you but still it is good to stand on our own.

Could not agree more. Saving money  is one of the best way to manage our money but that is not only that. We also need to budget some of our money for tithe, for charity, for emergency, for investment, and for fun Smiley
3239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: August 12, 2016, 11:13:39 AM
gambling makes me cry whem balance 0.0955 btc and then 0.125 btc
and now the balnce is 0 i want to cry as hard as possible

Am i bad for thinking that was funny i wonder? The thing is you should never gamble with what you can't afford to lose, if you do it like that then you will never cry as hard as possible or never cry at all tbh. I have never cryed after losing so if you do then it is time to reevaluate.

No you are not bad Smiley you are just adding spice into it and captured readers - your point is well taken that gambling must be for entertainment and we need to only gamble money that we can afford to lose.
3240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Bitcoin? on: August 12, 2016, 11:11:25 AM
It is perfect combination right now. Bitcoin filled successfully the gap which traditional payment processors will not able to make. There some some very serious concerns regarding privacy,anonymity and security with easy to gamble online. I also started to gamble online when I saw the facilities of Bitcoin. Bitcoin and gambling has changed the gambling a lot and will grow more with time.

Agree with this. Before, when I tried to join certain online casinos that accepts and pay fiat money, they refused my enrolment due to my geographical location I was currently at. But with bitcoins, I can easily join and deposit  at anytime I like- no need for more identifications and etc..
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